'Gloves are off': CNN reporter says China's new response is 'almost making fun' of Trump

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Apr 12, 2025, 00:38

Chinese leader Xi Jinping declared his nation was "not afraid" of the trade war president Donald Trump was waging and raised its tariffs on U.S. imports to 125 percent, and CNN's Marc Stewart said China's comments seemed to be "making fun" of the American leader.

Trump has raised tariffs on China to 145 percent, but China has indicated it won't go higher than 125 percent, saying it would be pointless to escalate any further, and the international correspondent told "CNN News Central" that Xi's first public remarks on the trade war stood out as particularly provocative.


"Look, none of this is a surprise," Stewart said. "These latest tariffs are very much in the Chinese playbook, but what's very attention-getting to me is the fact that China is now saying it's not going to raise tariffs any higher, saying it has other weapons – almost making fun of the United States for raising the stakes, raising the number so high. Let me share with you some remarks we got late today from a government official here in Beijing who said that the United States is engaging in nothing more than a numbers game with no real economic significance, going on to say the United States is exposing itself as a participant in 'weaponizing tariffs as a tool of bullying and coercion, turning itself into a joke.'"

"So that is the latest where China stands in this back-and-forth tit-for-tat," Stewart continued. "The other big headline of the day is that we are hearing from Chinese president Xi Jinping, really the first time since this whole trade war escalated to such a high level. The big headline is that he is saying China is 'not afraid.' These are remarks that were made with the Spanish prime minister here in Beijing, and according to state media, he said that China is going to continue to remain confident, it's going to remain focused, saying there are no real winners in a trade war."

"The language that we're hearing from Xi Jinping is very consistent with what we've heard from other government officials over the last few days, and as you mentioned, as far as the possibility of a phone call between Xi Jinping and president Trump, not in the near future," Stewart added. "That's the messaging that we're feeling from Beijing, at least."

CNN's Kate Bolduan agreed with Stewart, saying that Chinese officials seemed to be goading Trump.

"That is quite a statement that you got from that government official," Bolduan said. "I mean, the gloves are off now in terms of how the two sides are going to be talking about it. We will need to stand by and see how Donald Trump responds to that."


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China is laughing at Trump just as I predicted they would......he can thug America into admission but with a strong country like China he'll make no impact.

Shame that he couldn't save the advice he gave to Zelensky....'You don't have a card to play with'


Apr 12, 2025, 08:24

Normal BS from CNN taking the side of China in this case as expected, The fact is that China is trying tog et at Trump for a variety of reasons - they ahd Biden under total control and could do much without being punished for excesses like using a balloon to spy on army bases in the USA and Biden allowed them to complete the job and once the ballon left US air spexce the shot it down. When it comes to Taiwan and the rest of the Pacifc counries Chinma had a free hand to doas it please and the Biden's got millions in Chinese bribes.


The USA companies sclosed shop in the USA and moved manufacturing activities to China to benefit fro cheap labor without Trade Union problems and that added to US trade deficit and Biden allowed China to buy US farms near to US Army bases and allowed at least 50 000 military age Chinese men to enter the USA - endangering the life of people in the USA,


The other sweetheart situation of Biden and his traitorous regime was the emphasis on son and wind energy production using equipment imported from China while cutting down gas and oil plants. China also using Humte Biden to buy a cobalt mine in Mexico as part of a plan to built their wn electic vehicle factory in Mexico. That became part of the Mexico problem for the USA and the flooding of the USA by fnetanyl drugs killing 150 000 younger people a year in the USA became a serious problem helped along by Biden and co.


When Trump said no more China responded and now a trade war has errupted, So what has CNN to gain fom the story. The majority sgharehiolding in CNN is Warner Brothers in which China has the majority shaholding and as a result CNN will alays side with China in the case of dispute at present,


I wrote elsewhere about how the ultra-corrupt Biden dministration undemined the US Defense Force, Audit reports that the USDF as udermined by coruption and maladministration. Billions as voted by Congress to built nuclear powered subs and servicing them - which was a main component of the USA to ensure Chinese behaviour in the Pacif9c Region is no running wild, nstead of building 8 such submaine in the perid Biden was Presidnt instead of 8 new subs only 2 were built when Biden was Presidents, Of the 60 sch subs 20 was witdrwn from service for servicing. That while funds were provided for the new subs and also for maintenance of the fleet - the money was spent and in the audit reports it was stated what the money was spent on - another proof of maladministration and rampart corruption in the US Federal Goverment.


I think that the time has come to say no more and the way the USA was going down over the past years must be reversed, At the rate things were going in the next four years under Haris would ahve meant the end of demcorcy in the world and Australia would just have been another Chinese colony,


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Apr 12, 2025, 09:46

The batshit ex tv host / draft-dodging convicted felon & sex pest has created the most chaotic government in the USA's illustrious history .................. there's no fcking way he can rule in this batshit manner for another four years.

Only in America.

Apr 13, 2025, 02:01

What is chaotic about fighting massive maladministration an corruption in the USA. that was driving the US on a route to self-destruction of the USA economy.


What is wrong with getting people to do their jobs and not "work from home" without any conmtrol, Lets take as an example 1,1 millin probationers appointed by Biden in 2024 to bluff the world about the record emplayment oppostinutiesm Those people worked from home and never reported fo duty since appointment and the ony thing they did waas to receive their monthly salaies,


It was not even clear whether the peple in fact existed - but what was clear that work production on their pat were zero sice appointment, 94% of he edeal government service has not reported to their offices in 3 years/ Trump ordred them to report for duty or be fired and removed fom the payment system. The majority has refused to retirn to their offices to work.


There are part of bureaucracy that has never introduced computerization and where it was in fact introduced the programs and systems have not been updated since the 1990's leaving space for massive wasteful and often fraudulent expenditure?


The end result wi'l inevitably be more efficient service delivery - not the chaos that put the US economy at a serious risk of a financial disaster that would make the 1929 to 1933 depession look like a Sunday school picnic,



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Apr 13, 2025, 08:52

CNN lol!

Apr 13, 2025, 19:39

"CNN lol!"


Right, Draad!?


Imagine being a grown up that links CNN and MSBC stuff, with a straight face.


It will take "two weeks to flatten the curve"...but old Denise's head was flat to start with.

Apr 13, 2025, 20:31

Plum


The Guardian is worse,

Apr 13, 2025, 20:47

Nothing is worse than the shitbags at CNN and MSNBC.


It's actually mental that Denise even posts their kak.


Kinda tells you what your dealing with.

Apr 14, 2025, 00:44

Is Trump already living in China's world?

Cargo ships load and unload goods at a canal steel terminal in Huai 'an, Jiangsu province, China (file pic)

Cargo ships load and unload goods at a canal steel terminal in Huai 'an, Jiangsu province, China (file pic)


By Yvonne Murrayin Washington DC

As the smoke cleared from President Trump's tariff-induced global economic explosion, one clear target emerged - China.

It is the world’s second biggest economy, America’s largest trading partner and the country Mr Trump has long accused of unfair trade practices.

World leaders were "kissing his ass" dying to do a deal, Mr Trump told the National Republican Congressional Committee President's Dinner, hours before the tariffs kicked in.

One of those certainly not puckering up was China’s President, Xi Jinping.

China defiantly announced 84% tariffs on US goods and said it would "fight to the end".

Piqued by China’s temerity, Mr Trump hiked levies even higher - to a whopping 145% - while everyone else got their 90-day reprieve.

Upping the ante, Mr Xi responded with 125% duties on US imports. The gloves were off, although Team Trump appeared to be dropping heavy hints that they were open to talks with Beijing.

"Pick up the phone, come to the table," the White House’s top trade adviser Peter Navarro urged Mr Xi on Fox News.

But the phone didn’t ring.

Donald Trump has bemoaned China's trade practices


"At some point, hopefully in the near future, China will realise that the days of ripping off the USA, and other countries, is no longer sustainable or acceptable," President Trump wrote on his social media site Truth Social.

But will it?

Some analysts believe that Trumpism is unlikely to change China.

Why? Because the opposite has already happened.

"Instead of China coming to resemble the United States, the United States is behaving more like China," wrote Michael Froman, former US trade representative, now President of the Council of Foreign Relations in New York, in Foreign Affairs.

"Washington may have forged the open, liberal rules-based order, but China has defined its next phase: protectionism, subsidisation, restrictions on foreign investment, and industrial policy," he wrote.

For many years, the consensus in Washington - and, indeed, in Brussels - held that welcoming China into the global trading club would encourage economic liberalisation.

A prospering Chinese population would then demand - and be given - political freedoms, the argument went.

As we now know, that didn’t transpire.

Instead, China’s rising prosperity was accompanied by a tightening authoritarian grip on centralised power, the pursuit of statist economic policies, harnessing of nationalistic fervour and a brutal crackdown on dissent.


Any perceived challenge to Communist Party rule was brought to heel.

Protesters on the streets of Hong Kong, human rights defenders, Uyghurs, journalists, college campus Marxists, feminists, religious leaders as well as senior Communist Party officials insufficiently loyal to Xi Jinping were swept up.

But foreign investment poured in.

Mr Trump wasn’t the only world leader bemoaning China’s trade practices, though.

In fact, ever since China acceded to the World Trade Organization in 2001, other members complained that China’s state subsidies, cheap labour, alleged currency manipulation and forced transfer of technology as a condition for market entry were disadvantaging other nations’ industrial base.

China rejected accusations of unfair trade practices and pointed to its huge stimulus measures often credited with saving the global economy after the 2008 financial crash.

Still, a resentment simmered in some quarters that China had entered the playing field and proceeded to tilt it firmly in its own direction.

As recently as January, the European Commission lodged a complaint with the WTO alleging "unfair and illegal" trade practices over intellectual property rights.

For years before that, Europe and China had frequently fallen out over what the EU saw as a flood of cheaper Chinese products drowning its home-grown industry. Think shoes, toys and more recently, electric vehicles.

And, way back when Donald Trump was only famous for reality TV, previous occupants of the White House also railed against China’s rewiring of global trade to its own advantage.

The Obama administration launched multiple challenges at the WTO, decrying China’s system as "not transparent, predictable or fair".

Chinese President Xi Jinping has succeeded in diversifying its export markets away from the US


By the time Donald Trump came to power in 2016 and unleashed his first slew of tariffs on China, many American businesses operating there applauded his efforts to finally push through a correction.

As a reporter based then in Beijing, I recall conversations with business executives who were disgruntled about being forced into joint ventures and intellectual property shares with Chinese firms, whilst competing with Chinese state-backed domestic enterprise.

They hoped Mr Trump’s towering tariffs and tough talk would usher in long-awaited change.

It didn’t - partly because of the Covid-19 pandemic that broke out in Wuhan, China, in late 2019 ground international trade to a halt. But also, because China had already been preparing for global economic shocks of the variety Mr Trump could administer for some time.

"Beijing, and, in particular, Xi Jinping, probably feels extremely vindicated in their choices over the last decade or so," said Jacob Gunter, lead analyst at MERICS, a Berlin-based think tank.

Mr Xi was the original "de-coupler," he told RTÉ News, and aggressively pursued a policy of "self-reliance" to become less dependent on the US in every way.

"The language that they use for this is that China will enter a period of protracted struggle with the United States and its allies," he said, "and now we are in the process of testing whether that preparation was sufficient or not".

In the past few years, China has succeeded in diversifying its export markets away from the United States, boosting trade relations with countries in Europe and developing economies in the global south.

Since the first Trump administration, Chinese exports to the US dropped from around 20% to less than 13% of total exports.

In the name of self-reliance, Beijing also encouraged domestic consumption, albeit with limited success (Chinese consumers are traditionally savers, rather than spenders).

And, in 2015, Beijing announced a major state-financed industrial policy to achieve global pre-eminence in key manufacturing and technology sectors like artificial intelligence, robotics, green energy, high-speed rail and pharmaceuticals.

China's AI chatbot DeepSeek has been deemed better than US models


This "Made in China 2025" initiative delivered tangible results, experts concluded, and a few shocks to boot.

When China’s AI chatbot DeepSeek - deemed a cheaper and possibly better rival to US models - was unveiled earlier this year, it was met with a collective gasp in Silicon Valley and panic among investors.

It was a game-changer, many tech-bros believed.

American consumers altered shopping habits to favour Chinese low-cost e-commerce giants like Shein and Temu and lapped up recent innovations from China like TikTok.

President Xi is unlikely to ever have to contend with a potential revolt from his population over the ban of American social media - like Mr Trump does with TikTok - because US platforms such as Meta and X were never allowed to operate in China in the first place.

Beyond its borders, the "Made in China 2025" industrial policy certainly delivered on China’s bid to dominate key sectors.

China produces around 60% of the world’s electric vehicles, half of the world’s ships, 80% of commercial drones, nearly 90% of the world’s solar panels and between 70 and 90% of lithium batteries. China is forecast to overtake the US and Europe in next-generation nuclear energy production in the coming decade.

But it also prompted US leaders to adopt policies that wouldn’t be out of place at a meeting of the Chinese Politburo.

The trade war of Trump’s first term, for example, showed a once free trade-loving Republican Party had turned protectionist.

His successor Joe Biden’s massive investment in America’s clean energy and semiconductor sectors under the Inflation Reduction and CHIPS and Science acts, similarly, was aimed at reducing US reliance on Chinese sources and stimulating domestic production.

And both administrations have sought to block China’s access to America’s advanced computing chips to forestall China’s military and technological progress.

After years of America’s industrial heartland being hollowed out by Chinese competition, tariffs, Mr Trump contends, will bring American companies rushing back.

Donald Trump said he will bring business back to America's industrial heartland


"We borrow money from Chinese peasants to buy the things those Chinese peasants manufacture," his Vice President, JD Vance, told Fox News this week, warning that this was about to change.

Chinese internet users riffed on the idea of low-cost manufacturing returning to America with AI-generated memes depicting exhausted and overweight workers slumped over sewing machines and assembly lines in sweatshop conditions.

But is Mr Trump’s brinkmanship really designed to restructure global trade?

If the US administration is serious about ordering American businesses home and decoupling from China, tariffs are unlikely to be negotiated away.

Mr Xi’s refusal to pick up the phone to Mr Trump might be an indication that he knows this.

But Mr Trump also knows that China’s sluggish economic growth still relies heavily on American consumption - and that China’s overcapacity problem will force it to scramble around for other markets.

"China stands to lose on multiple fronts," said Yanmei Xie, an independent geopolitics analyst.

It runs a trade surplus with 150 countries, she said, which may raise their own barriers to avoid becoming dumping grounds for Chinese exports displaced by the US.

"A tariff-driven drag on global growth will further erode demand for Chinese exports," she said.

If, on the other hand, President Trump is using tariffs as a negotiating tactic in the hope of striking a grand bargain with Beijing, President Xi may calculate that his American interlocutor, is not bent on rejuvenating American industry after all and that unlike him, a democratically-elected president facing rising costs and political headwinds will have to blink first.

Certainly, the White House’s decision to exempt smartphone and computer imports from punitive tariffs is likely to be interpreted in Beijing as an American wobble.

Either way, Mr Xi seems determined to play Mr Trump at his own game.

Perhaps that is because he knows China has already rewritten the rules.


Apr 14, 2025, 17:46

...as they did in Panama?

Apr 15, 2025, 06:30

He huses lots of words to say very little...some sort of disguise...coward hiding bebind word salad.

 
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