'Preposterous': Judge refuses to postpone Jan. 6 trials based on Trump pardon promise

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Nov 29, 2024, 07:29

U.S. District Judge Royce Lamberth declined this week to postpone the trials of Richard Slaughter and Caden Paul Gottfried in light of president-elect Donald Trump's vow to pardon Jan. 6 rioters.

Gottfried and Slaughter, his stepfather, were observed engaging law enforcement in an area known as "the tunnel" on Jan. 6, 2021.

"We don't leave," Slaughter reportedly said in one interview recorded that day. "We stay united, and we take back our country."

Following the November election, the two men asked the court to postpone their trials because Trump had made campaign promises about providing pardons to U.S. Capitol rioters, but in a five-page ruling on Wednesday, Lamberth denied the request.

"[T]he Department has not, in fact, adopted an official agency policy of halting any and all matters related to the Capitol Riots," Lamberth wrote.

According to the judge, special counsel Jack Smith's decision to drop prosecutions against Trump for election subversion also "bear no resemblance to the case against Mr. Slaughter and Mr. Gottfried."

"This Court recently had the occasion to discuss what effect the speculative possibility of a presidential pardon has on the timetable for a pending criminal matter. In short: little to none," the ruling continued. "The defendants ask this Court to do something extraordinary: to defray the execution of its own constitutional duties."

Lamberth also addressed the assertion that going forward with trials would waste resources.

"The defendants' implicit efforts to caricature the timely pursuit of truth as a mere 'expedien[t],' and to recast the defendants as the hapless victims of arbitrary government action, are a preposterous mischaracterization of our justice system," he explained.

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As expected the classless and wealthy hillbilly President elect will pardon the deplorables who in their criminal behaviour reduced a nation to gutter level in the face of a live international audience.

Sies!

Nov 29, 2024, 08:11

This is again BS.  The Supreme  Court ruled that the  Justice Department as to refame charge the Court egard ss Uncositutional  and not in line with reality so the question remain - is his Jusice rying o overule ahat he Supeme Court ruled a s  hecarges laid and the 4 yer delay  in brig in g chages is in ac abuse of he  Rule of Law.  

What the  Deparment of Jusitce has done and is doing is DESPICA BLE  and indeed SIES.  You should realize what is happening in he USA  by he Justice Department  in the present sceanrio..   Keeping people in jail for 4  years  ars is total dictatorial BS to be expeced from he Gestapo and Stalinist KGB. 

To threaten the arrested people that they will be kept in jail unil hey plead  guily to charges the Supreme Court is BS  keep them in jail until  they admit guilt to charges the  SC  regard a preposterous  is unacceptable roma legal perspective.   

How about stirring up murder of Trump nominees allowed to flourish by the Justice deparment which is  10 time worse  than  what acually happened on 6 January and you apparently support such conduct - why don't you call political murder threats SIES as well.

In any event thee is a rule of what  saying  Jstice delayed reprsents  Justice denial and keeping  people in jail wihout charges for four years represent Justice denial.   SIES AGAIN AND AGAIN.

Are you supporting MURDER OF POLITICAL OPPONENTS what the Democras are doing by promoting murder of political opponents in the USA .   YES or NO?      

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Nov 29, 2024, 09:08

Shame:ermm:

Nov 29, 2024, 11:03

 Denny

BB

 Do you support assisination attemtps and Democratic Party sponsored muder threats agsinst people in the USA because Trump nominated them for Cabiinet and Senior appointments in the USA ?   YES or NO  is all that is required.  

Nov 30, 2024, 07:23

"As expected the classless and wealthy hillbilly President elect will pardon the deplorables who in their criminal behaviour reduced a nation to gutter level in the face of a live international audience.

Sies!"


Your distorted view of the man who survived 2 assassination attempts and who won the election in a land slide is so sad...your hate for something you don’t understand is disgusting...sies.

Nov 30, 2024, 10:15

Your distorted view of the man who survived 2 assassination attempts and who won the election in a land slide is so sad...your hate for something you don’t understand is disgusting...sies.

Well many people would consider him classless and him being wealthy is beyond dispute. He's not a hillbilly, but he appeals to be people who would have been mockingly referred to as hillbillies. Not sure what the assassination attempts have to do with people being free to access the man's character.

But lets just get one thing clear, he did not win in a landslide. It was actually quite a close election. He won the popular vote by just under 2.5 million votes. The percentage of his vote shares stands at 49.9% meaning a very slight majority of American's voted for another person to be President when you factor in third parties. He beat the Harris vote share by 1.6% as opposed to 2020 when he lost to Biden when Biden beat him in vote share by 4.5% and lost the popular vote by just over 7 millions votes. Of the last 20 elections in the US Trumps 2024 win would only rank in 13th place by vote share.

Yes he actually won more seats in the electoral college than Biden did in 2020 despite getting 4.5 million fewer votes (which tells you how stupid the electoral college system is) but that's still less than what Obama got in both his election victories and no where close to the number of electoral college seats won by both Lyndon B Johnson in 1960 and Ronald Regan in 1976 and 1980. If you want to see what landslides look like, look up those elections.



Nov 30, 2024, 10:25

Back to the Heading and wher the myth came from.   Not sure where that myth came from anyway.

There were two isses involved, namely -

*    namely the charge laid against Trump by Smith - which he ahs already wihdrawn - so no court hearinsa but those fake charges is possible; and/or

*     the charges against the circa 400  eople the Supreme Court ruled to be totally distorted and is not suppoted by facts and the Justice Deparmen were to be brought in line with reality.

What disgusted he Supreme Court was that the Justice Department and Police threatened  he arrested people  with indefinitely beig kept in jail ntil they admit guilt to the fake charges   he Supreme Court regarded as preposterous they would be kept in jail idefninitely,    That obviusly was ttoaly Unconstitutional.   Any charges now laid will have to comply with the real offenses committed and not imagined ones.    If it is not in line with the ruling of the Supreme  Court - the harge is useless and wil be thrown out on appeal,   

Just for the record who is the judge in Wshington who said the charges should proceed - is she also responsible to the fake libel damages claims against Trump by the  one woman who produced no evidence  no eidence that the incident she claimed Trump had sex that never took place,   Was it te same one who found the media guilty to pay libel damages  as the two selection supervisors who was shown on Security cameras pulling out suitcases of votes  from underneath the tables after ending the cues home because of interruption of the water supply to he countig ceter and fed in summary sheets of votes into the computer system,   Was it also the sme one who dealt with all the Januay 6 cases.   

That one will be defrocked for abuse of judicial norms required in the US judicial system   She is defiiniely on the list of people to be foudn guilty of judiciakl abuse and will be lucky tog et away with only dicharge,

There is another issue where the lawers are sharpening their teeth on and that is claiming billions from the Govenment for judicial abuse and undermining their interests based on fake charges and illegal processes.    So there will be soon be another 1 100 very wealthy millinaires  in the USA/    .  

Nov 30, 2024, 10:25

Back to the Heading and wher the myth came from.   Not sure where that myth came from anyway.

There were two isses involved, namely -

*    namely the charge laid against Trump by Smith - which he ahs already wihdrawn - so no court hearinsa but those fake charges is possible; and/or

*     the charges against the circa 400  eople the Supreme Court ruled to be totally distorted and is not suppoted by facts and the Justice Deparmen were to be brought in line with reality.

What disgusted he Supreme Court was that the Justice Department and Police threatened  he arrested people  with indefinitely beig kept in jail ntil they admit guilt to the fake charges   he Supreme Court regarded as preposterous they would be kept in jail idefninitely,    That obviusly was ttoaly Unconstitutional.   Any charges now laid will have to comply with the real offenses committed and not imagined ones.    If it is not in line with the ruling of the Supreme  Court - the harge is useless and wil be thrown out on appeal,   

Just for the record who is the judge in Wshington who said the charges should proceed - is she also responsible to the fake libel damages claims against Trump by the  one woman who produced no evidence  no eidence that the incident she claimed Trump had sex that never took place,   Was it te same one who found the media guilty to pay libel damages  as the two selection supervisors who was shown on Security cameras pulling out suitcases of votes  from underneath the tables after ending the cues home because of interruption of the water supply to he countig ceter and fed in summary sheets of votes into the computer system,   Was it also the sme one who dealt with all the Januay 6 cases.   

That one will be defrocked for abuse of judicial norms required in the US judicial system   She is defiiniely on the list of people to be foudn guilty of judiciakl abuse and will be lucky tog et away with only dicharge,

There is another issue where the lawers are sharpening their teeth on and that is claiming billions from the Govenment for judicial abuse and undermining their interests based on fake charges and illegal processes.    So there will be soon be another 1 100 very wealthy millinaires  in the USA/    .  

Nov 30, 2024, 19:17

"Well many people would consider him classless and him being wealthy is beyond dispute. He's not a hillbilly, but he appeals to be people who would have been mockingly referred to as hillbillies. Not sure what the assassination attempts have to do with people being free to access the man's character"

Prejudice is prejudice,  regardless of the subject...calling Trump's base hillbillies is just as bigoted as nazzi's looking down at other races...



The way American elections go, that was a landslide...and for a Republican, winning the popular vote is huge..

Nov 30, 2024, 19:23

Prejudice is prejudice,  regardless of the subject...calling Trump's base hillbillies is just as bigoted as nazzi's looking down at other races...

Calling Republican's hillbillies certainly doesn't help political discourse and all it does is reinforce political entrenchment. You're never going to win over anyone by insulting them but it's still a far cry from being a Nazi. And there was far more Nazi-esque language coming from the republican side (their poisoning the blood etc) during the election.

The way American elections go, that was a landslide

No it wasn't.

...and for a Republican, winning the popular vote is huge..

Well that was an achievement. Of the last 8 elections before this one the Republican candidate only won the popular vote once.

Nov 30, 2024, 20:27

Democrats 48.2% ................................... Republicans 49.8%

Landslide se gat .

Nov 30, 2024, 22:58

Calling Republican's hillbillies certainly doesn't help political discourse and all it does is reinforce political entrenchment. You're never going to win over anyone by insulting them but it's still a far cry from being a Nazi. And there was far more Nazi-esque language coming from the republican side (their poising the blood etc) during the election.

What is Nazi-esque language.   Enlighten us about that.    

By the way it was not  dictatorial conmduct that the FBI spy on political opponent,  Trump never did that iilegally spying gireme. There were proven o be 278 000 the FBI spied on bcaue Biden classified all opponents as "White  Dmstic Terrorist".   he went on and call them "GARBAGE"  to your agument about Naziesue language cann be tied to  Trump - but rather to Biden and TRump never used  he FBI or CIA to spy on US ciiizens and neve usedthe FBI and CIA to oppress any news media ad the nene lafoms o censor news articles hat could hae been negative for the rgime.    Incidentally that was unlawful in the USA anwaym   

So ws Biden and arris use communist-esque language in teir campaign and in fact not ue th at - but wnt firther and implmwnt whatever they want to their political opponents,   

I told you what the   Democrats did an there is plenty of proof of that so I would like to know what Nazi-esque really is,  

Dec 01, 2024, 01:50

He wanted Zelensky to dish up dirt on Biden, didn't he ?

Dec 01, 2024, 07:01

"Democrats 48.2% ................................... Republicans 49.8%"


Swing states Kamala 0....Trump 7...States 17 to 33...landslide...take Commiefornia out of the equation and the contrast is even bigger...this was a message, but some still don't seem to get it...

Dec 01, 2024, 09:46

Blobbok the Democrats got  7 milion+ votes in California making up circa 10% f h e total numbe of votes Harris got countrywde, 

One other thing about California is they have a proofed system which they use for elecion fraud.- there are over 6 million dead voters on their voters role who arise fom their gravs on election day and vote Democratin electis.   

There was funny cases in the past here the very polite Democrats wrote a lette to a woman who have been ead for 6 years thanki ng er for her vote,   The letter ended up with the oan;s daughte who apssed it to the emdia,   If you  think it is an isolated case forget about it.   In California they took in some cases more than 3  weeks were eeeded to get the "ight results"    233ks ocounted the votes in2 House Districts - they kept couting as votes harvested after the elecion date o add to he egiimaate votes.

The matter i goig o court now and wil inmevtably ed up in the Surpeme Court - sice it necessary for vote fraud to be eliminated from the USA elections and all pro-fraud legislation in States be eliminated,   

   

 

Dec 01, 2024, 10:31

Swing states Kamala 0....Trump 7...States 17 to 33...landslide...take Commiefornia out of the equation and the contrast is even bigger

Looking at states doesn't tell you anything on its own because it doesn't tell you about how many people live in each state.

The population of California is greater than the 20 least populated states + the District of Columbia.

And no you can't just exclude California  for no reason other than because you don't like the policies of that state and you want make the wining margin of your side look better. What is California not an integral part of the US?

...this was a message, but some still don't seem to get it...

Oh people get the message that was sent. A majority of voters where unhappy with how things where going in the US and wanted a new President and that a majority of US voters either rejected or didn't care enough about the claims and accusations about Trumps character, his past actions and potential future actions as President.

The result of the election was clear and is not in dispute.

However anyone pushing the message it was a landslide victory is just demonstrably wrong. Nor is the result of this election any indicator of a long term voter shift to the right. 

 



Dec 01, 2024, 16:37

Stavc

You make me laugh all-out.   The California election system is based on legaliizng of election raud.   A tyical example is the House results in the State being delayed by up to 3 weeks after ection day alloing or DP agents to collect votes since election day and get them counted.   There are four such House seats were the matter of illegal harvesting of votes hs been proven and that is likely to end up in the Supreme Court.   California as at least 6 million dead and missing voters on the role and it is an historic fact that the dead in the USA in California vote for the Democrats in elections.

Funny it will come up in the upcoming Court cases - not only in the House seatss - but also in the Senate electios in  Senate outcomes in 4 states.

   

       

Dec 02, 2024, 06:12

Classic example of twisting my words, I didn't call Trump's supporters hillbillies I called Trump a wealthy hillbilly and called out the criminal behaviour of the deplorables.

...wealthy hillbilly President elect will pardon the deplorables who in their criminal behaviour....

Not sure what the assassination attempts have to do with people being free to access the man's character.

Neither am I.




Dec 02, 2024, 06:27

You can question some of his actions all you like, but it takes guts to stand up after just being shot...that assassination attempts showed more about his character than we normally get to see about any politician.

Dec 02, 2024, 06:44

Ther are question marks abouwhy 400 peple held in jail for near to four years without charges being laid against people amounts to abuse of the US Constitution and civil rights of people.  That is the main problem in this case.

That is wre than the previosu regime did in South Africa did when they were in charge - but you lot think it is OK in the cae f the 400 people ehld in jail indefinately because ey refuse toa dmit guilt to phoney charges  which the S upreme Court ruled as being totally abseles and hey instructed he Justic Deprtmnt tos top the forcingof epeople to plead guiltyto fake chares and charge hm with what reall happeed o January 6 - namelyerespassing on he capital and he lies sreaming from theemdia as to what eally happened - like the insrrection BS tha never happened.   

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Dec 02, 2024, 07:08

Nice to see nasty little Marxists like dense Denise and StavAss getting crushed again.

As Elon Musk noted the vast majority of states won by Cackling K had no voter ID and there was again massive election fraud. The GOP should have at least 4 more Senate seats and 30 more House seats. That margin of victory for Trump was at least 3  percent if not more. It's was an electoral college landslide. 

It's going to be interesting to see what happens  when Trump is back in power. I hear that both the 2020 election and 2024 election fraud will be looked at.

As for J6 a proper investigation will take place. The J6 Committee should all be jailed for the fraud together with Piglosi and so many others. The cover up will be blown up

Many J6 Prisoner had no trial for years. 

Personally I am looking forward to 2025 and the total destruction of demonrat lies and many corrupt criminals and traitors being brought to Justice. 

Idiots like StavAss and poor buckle dense Denise are in for a torrid time. Will these half baked gullible twits ever realise they have been made monkeys of by the Globalist owned media. Yes that media that is going out of business. MSNBC having lost 54 percent of it viewers since the election. Bwahahahahahaha. 

So nice to see Kash Patel being nominated for FBI Director! Let the prosecutions begin. January 20th can't come fast enough. 



Dec 02, 2024, 09:58

Say Draad, what has the assassination attempt to do with the leading post? Cut the bullshit and stick with the topic if you want to discuss the obese pig's bravery then start a leading post.

And OBTW I'm not and I haven't questioned his actions either, where did you pull dat one from???...."You can question some of his actions all you like..." I suggest you read through my post before you unleash your garble.

Tx

Dec 02, 2024, 10:16

Dec 02, 2024, 10:37

Denny

Your post s absed on BS and not what really happeed since Jana ury 2021 in court cases.   The Justice Departmet framed admision of guilt on all the 1 100 arested people and the Police involved said to prisoners tha unless hey sign the admission of guilt forms they would be held in jail idefnitely.   

As time ent by some 700 people signed the admissions nd most were eleased since it as a sham to cover the period they were hed in jail illegally by the Biden Regime.   It means that onc and admision of guilt is signed there is no other evidecne needed in court and judgement is passed.  most perople weresentenced to t he tie they were  held illegally in jail and no abil was allowed by the Jutice Deaprtment.

So after 3 years and 11 months t here are stil 400 people who refused to sign admission of guilt forms and 15 of hem ended up in going to cout on the issue.   When the mater was cnsidered  y the Supreme Court - the charges that the AG laid was onsidered as presterous and non-applicae in the caee.    So the Jusice Department was istrcucted to charge the accused withreal and not imagined cahrges.   

It is no cler whether the two people mentioned is charged wih real crimes or not.   The Supreme Court ruling is clear - theese people espasses omn Government prperty- nothing else.   There was zero proo hat i was an insurrction and less aboutattacks on police nd murxder o fice policemen claimed byBiden.   If the Police ws atacked and ijured - why was nobody charged with such offences.

What happened here is teh DP tried to blw up what ahppened into all counts of insirrecions trries and try to get people jailed on that count.   They no have  400 peoples til in jail wit n real counts yet.   and in thsi case it was and is not clear whether the two accused of what?   

Trump will free the people held without trial for 4 years and will also have the crimial charges of thr people based on propaganda BS cancelled.

That is te long and short of the issue.   The Aprtheid regime enver held 400 people in jai fr4 years withot a trial - so thsi is anther record of the Biden regime and he end result si thatpeple invovled will claim millios from the Jsstice Department and  that is anth rreason fornt allowing the Jtice system to be used politically against people.  

The farce will be stopped on 21 January 2025 and then the murder of two people by the Washington Police will start soon aafter the new AG took over.   Abuse o te Justice system for poitical purposes wil end hen Trum take over  he Presiency.       .                   .            

Dec 02, 2024, 11:06

Gong on the 'trishitory' ride? Just make sure you're not stuck up Brian's asshole.

Dec 09, 2024, 08:57

hehehhehehe ............

 
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