50,000 + Russian Troops dead, or injured :

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Jul 18, 2022, 01:55

“What that actually means is 50,000 Russian soldiers that have either died or been injured in this conflict, nearly 1,700 Russian tanks destroyed, nearly 4,000 armoured fighting vehicles that belong to Russia destroyed.”

On the other hand, Ukraine seems to have only had less than 30% of the deaths of Russia. 

Total deaths


BreakdownFatalitiesSource
TOTAL14,200–14,400 killedUnited Nations


ZSU, NGU and volunteer forces4,400 killedUnited Nations
4,641 killedMuseum of Military History

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Putin is losing this war. This has been a disaster, but he has no choice but to continue. He cant retreat with nothing...
Ukraine is now getting more time to learn how to use the latest tech from the West more efficiently, so if anything things will get worse for Putin. His denazification program is a disaster. 

Jul 18, 2022, 03:32

This is total BS.  There are about 125 000 Russian soldiers involved in Ukraine and if 50 000 Russian soldiers were killed or wounded and more than 1 700 tanks destroyed the whole invasion would have collapsed by now.

All that is in evidence that the Ukraine army is in fact retreating and every city targeted by the Russians have been taken by them - so how is that possible with the info provided by you?   It is obviously BS spreading by propaganda and the results on the ground indicates a totally different picture.

       

Jul 18, 2022, 08:55

This is total BS.  There are about 125 000 Russian soldiers involved in Ukraine and if 50 000 Russian soldiers were killed or wounded and more than 1 700 tanks destroyed the whole invasion would have collapsed by now.

Why? You think their is no historical examples of armies taking over 33% causalities and fighting on?

All that is in evidence that the Ukraine army is in fact retreating and every city targeted by the Russians have been taken by them - so how is that possible with the info provided by you?   It is obviously BS spreading by propaganda and the results on the ground indicates a totally different picture.

Yes the Ukrainan's have retreated from town and cities in the Donbass, primarily this is down to the Russian's switching tactics and concentrating mass artillery which they have more than the Ukrainians do and which outrages the Ukrainian artillery, its a slow grinding process which allows the Russian's to take small area's of territory at a time.

But what is actual bullshit is you saying that ever city targeted by Russia has been taken by them. The Russian's failed to take Kyiv and Kharkiv. And for the love of god I don't want to hear your nonsense that the Russian's never tried to take either.

Mike you can't just dismiss everything that doesn't match your view's as propaganda. Yes absolutely both sides engage in propaganda and would it be stupid for them not too but it's farcical to suggest at this point that Russian's invasion of Ukraine has gone to plan for them or that they haven't sustained significant causalities.

Jul 18, 2022, 09:13

The latest news is that Zelenskyy fired his Head of Security and the Attorney-General.   He also replaced the Security heads in the Kharkiv and Kherson regions.     The above is rather weird since the  Russians occupied the whole Kherson Oblast region  and the new Security Chief will have to operate from outside of that region.

Now lets get back to the Prosecutor General.    In the Ukraine Parliament Zelenskyy has banned all Opposition Parties and accused them of treason  and the Prosecutor General previously refused to prosecute people they have no supporting evidence to charge them with.    Effectively the country is without a constitution  since the previous constitution was scrapped after the Coup of 2014 organized and funded by the USA.   

By his actions Zelenskyy is now a dictator  and nothing more.    Legally he cannot fire the Prosecutor General without Parliamentary approval and none of that has been possible since Parliament now has no quorum to decide on anything.     The USA is pumping billions of dollars in assistance to Ukraine - but internal corruption and kickbacks  to Democratic Party  politicians  in the USA are rife and the real reason for the firing is that the Prosecutor General is investigating that and the firing was probably caused by the Biden Administration - would not be the first time either.  The next effort would be to murder the woman concerned  as was tried but failed when Biden was investigated in 2015 for corruption in Ukraine.              

Jul 18, 2022, 09:24

They never targeted Kiev for occupation - and they have only Kharkhov still in Ukraine hands - the rest of the Donbas Region has been occupied.   I have no idea about propaganda absorption.  I merely figure out what is actually happening on the ground. and base my comments on that.   The screams that Russia is losing the war is indeed propaganda BS repeated and dreamed up by people like SB. 

Just a question - why did the USA  undermine the Minsk agreement of 2015?      .           

Jul 18, 2022, 09:47

They never targeted Kiev for occupation

Farcical suggestion. So the Russian's just went on a sight seeing tour of the Kyiv Oblast did they?

I merely figure out what is actually happening on the ground. and base my comments on that.

No you cherry pick specific events to support your narrative.

The screams that Russia is losing the war is indeed propaganda BS repeated and dreamed up by people like SB.

The outcome of the war is still to be decided but its very hard to see the Russian's winning this if Ukraine's has the desire to keep fighting and the West the resolve to keep supplying Ukraine with weapons. By not declaring war the Russian's have actually hobbled their own access to manpower.

Just a question - why did the USA  undermine the Minsk agreement of 2015?

Going by your past track record of pushing conspiracy theories without checking this I'm going dismiss this as nonsense.



Jul 18, 2022, 11:55

While the numbers may never be confirmed, what is true is that many of Russia's top generals have been killed. That suggests many Russians have died. 

This war was meant to be over in 1 week, but it has dragged on for ages. 
Putin then said it would be over by the 9th of May. Once again that has not happened. 

As I have stated before, the only Westerners that support Putin are religious. These people just make up their own reality. They operate in a faith-based reality, so they just reject anything that does not fit the narrative they want to believe. Trump gave these simpletons in America a licence to reject anything as fake news. Just like Putin does... 

Putin won the right last year to end Democracy by appointing himself for life. (Or at least another 14 years. If he is still alive then, he will probably extend it further.)

Just like Wing Chun Of China...
https://www.politico.eu/article/vladimir-putin-wins-right-to-extend-his-russia-rule-until-2036-in-landslide-vote/
So much for the Russian constitution...

Only having one media and one narrative brainwashed everyone. Or he has just cheated in the election and rigged it. 

This is a look in the mirror for America which almost went down the same path with Trump. Authoritarianism leaders like the religious, as they are easier to brainwash. Just talk about God, and suddenly they see this leader as some type of Messiah. Just like Trump carrying a Bible, and Trump is probably less religious than I am. 

Jul 18, 2022, 12:42

Not conspiracy theories - they are actual facts i wrote - not the jargon spread by the media which actually are conspiracy theories.   You people believe the lies of the media as fact and everything else against the BSters in this case as conspiracy theories.    You have a record of writing shit on site based on leftist media stories and that is a fact as well.     Fact there is plenty real evidence of corruption involvement  of leading Democratic Party politicians in the USA where kickback money from Ukraine is invoved.  

Just try the following:-

*   Biden himself on a video recording bragged that  he got rid of  the  Prosecutor investigating the company of which Hunter Biden was a Board member.    The  latter never attended any meetings in Kiev - but he was the route through which kickbacks were paid to the Biden's.   Biden threatened to ithhold US grant funding to Ukraine if the Prosecutor concerned ws not fired.    That will be investigated again once the House gets control of the House in November.    Fact is Burisma (the company concerned) got US Aid money for their activities and the Biden'sy got kickbacks in return.

*      Nancy Pelosi made a video recording supporting her son and his Russian Partner's activities in Ukraine.  In  the case of her son's company in California where it was originally registered - the registration was cancelled based o9n dubious transaction of the company in 2009.   The Registration was then moved to Singapore and the company bank account was opened there,     In 2015 a huge grant of $1 billion was approved and of that money $25 million was transferred to the company referred to.  The $25 million was promptly transferred  to the bank in Singapore from where it vanished into thin air.  The son's company in Ukraine stopped functioning afterwadrds.

*       In 2017 a grant for military assistance to Ukraine  was approved and of that money a huge percentage went to a company owned by a chap called Stepanek.    Stepanek registered a subsidiary company in the USA and two of Schiff's staff members  ere appointed as Directoirs of the subsidiary company.    Stepanek funded the Schiff election campaigns for the past four elections - before that the election expenses of Schiff was funded by Soros - and the company served as a route for kickback funding to Schiff.    When Trump found out what was happening he called for an audit as to what happened and refused to pay the money over to the Ukraine Government.     Afterwards he decided to supply Ukraine with weaponry and not pay them any money.  Schiff went ballistic because his kickback operations stopped.  

Trump made the mistake of asking about the Biden family corrupt activities in Ukraine - any investigation of that would  lead automatically to exposure of the activities of Pelosi and Schiff involvement in corruption in Ukraine.   That was the reason for the impeachment fabrication of Trump - nothing else.

After the approval of the latest $40 billion grant - the House approved a further grant fo $1 billion to Ukraine.    Why do you think that after approval of the grant Pelosi and Schiff rushed to Ukraine?    Knowing that Ukraine si the most corrupt country in  Europe  - so the kickback arrangements had to be finalized promptly.

Those are not conspiracy stories - they are factual and well-documented.      

As to the Minsk agreement the USA  did saboteur its implementation.    Why would that be?   In an e-mail to her campaign manager - who received  75 000 shares in a Russian Company with links to the Kremlin - which shares he transferred to a company owned by his daughter - Clinton wrote that 'she has "direct access to  Putin's inner sanctum".     The Democrats tried to saboteur the trump Administration by spreading lies about Trump's so-called collusion woth Russia - while the Democrats themselves were colluding with the Russians.  They conocted the lies and spread the biggest conspiracy theory of this century  thus far.    It has now been exposed as a conspiracy theory and criminality by the democrats.    

If you want conspiracy theories try the latter one as a conspiracy theory.    But wait - the investigation of the hunter Biden laptop  is coming and a lot of what happened with corruption and treason is going to go public when the House  controlled by the Republicans are dealing with those  Democratic Party corruption activities  after the November House election.     .   .       .                    .   .                 

Jul 18, 2022, 13:02

SB

How many Ukrainian soldiers have been killed?    No data on that anyway.   

By the way the Russian constitution limited the presidency terms to two successive terms.   That stipulation still applies and the fact is the Russian Parliament approved  a one term -extension  - but then was forced to go for a referendum on the issue.     The majority of the Russians voted in favor of ONLY AN ONE-TERM extension,   Like Biden you want to pick and choose a Russian leader yourself or does the electorate in Russia have no say in the matter.  In any event it is old news and to rake it up gain is BS.

And bigger BS is the issue of Trump.    Wait for what is going to happen with the crooked Democrats after the House is captured by the Republicans.   Then you will see how bad the situation really is..   By the way the crooked Democrats wants to legalize election fraud by Legislation allowing for registration to vote and voting wiothout identification - as well as vote-harvesting after the election day.    That is a real way of keeping dictatorial power. - they learned well from Stalin how to manipulate elections.      The January 6  circus is just propaganda to try and save the Democratic Party in the elections in November.  Biden has turned to shirt everything he touched.    The real truth will only come out  when ta real investigation is done by the House after the November election and they illa lso deal with the 2020 riots funded and organized by the democrats.   Looking forward to that one.              

Jul 18, 2022, 13:02

That's absolute twaddle Mike.

Jul 18, 2022, 15:31

What is twaddle about what I wrote?   It is the truth and there is ample documents supporting it..   Fact is the media refuse to publish anything - as they refuse to accept  the truth about the Hunter Biden Laptop.

If you refer to the last paragraph of my lat posting - Nothing is twaddle - all factual.   The US Government at present is totally corrupt - and has been under Obama as well.    In SA we call it State Capture - wonder whether Obama learned from Zuma or if Zuma learned the trade from Obama.     

   

Jul 18, 2022, 17:21

there is ample documents supporting it.

Go on then, please provide this ample documentation.

If you refer to the last paragraph of my lat posting - Nothing is twaddle - all factual.

No Mike its not factual its complete wank. You're so far off the reservation at this point you don't even know what the reservation looks like.



Jul 18, 2022, 19:51

DumbMike watches Tucker Carlson, and regurgitates anything he says as proclaimed fact. 

Jul 18, 2022, 22:58

Even of I watch Carllson - what is wrong with it,   Tucjer always deal with facts and not fiction - he normally shows Demo0crats digging their own political graves.     He use documentary proof of what the crooks are up to.  The truth hurts for the Democrats and the idiots who support them.    

They hate the truth and hate Carlson as a result as much as they hate auybody who exposes their maladministration and looting and their undermining of the USA.    

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Jul 18, 2022, 23:08

The truth hurts and what I wrote is the truth.    The FBI has taken over the role of the KGB as a protector of the Democrats.   They are as bad the average citizens as the Democrats are.   The fct is that we are facing destruction of the Western Civilization  and culture, as well as democracy by as one of Biden's .assistance put it the "Liberal New World Order". 

If you have any children be sorry for them - they are  going to suffer badly under that Liberal New World Order dictatorship.            

Jul 19, 2022, 01:21

Just because you agree with Tucker's ideology or his media personality - that does not make it fact. 

The fact is you are incapable of working out facts. You can only see what you like, and convince yourself it is fact. 

 
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