A lifelong crook': Columnist takes a hatchet to GOP claims of Trump victimization

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Mar 28, 2024, 06:44

New York Magazine columnist Jonathan Chait is taking a hatchet to claims by many Republicans that former President Donald Trump is a victim of "lawfare" by Democratic attorneys.

Chait starts out his new column by bringing some receipts of things that many conservatives -- including Sen. Ted Cruz and the editorial boards of the National Review and the Wall Street Journal -- said about Trump before he became the GOP's presidential nominee in 2016.

In short, Chait finds that concerns about Trump's criminality have been shared in conservative circles for years and they only stopped talking about them once it became clear that he would be their only chance to deny Hillary Clinton the presidency.

"Before he won the Republican nomination the first time, Republicans were perfectly aware that his decades of bilking customers and counterparties, lying to everybody, and surrounding himself with known criminals posed a series legal risk," he said. "Now that that risk has gone from theoretical to actual, and it is being shared by the Republican Party, they seem to believe it’s not fair to hold him legally accountable."

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Chait also said that the fact that the GOP is still all-in on defending Trump shows a remarkable level of depravity within one of America's two major political parties.

"What’s unusual about Trump is not that a politician got into legal trouble, or even that a professional scammer went into politics, but that a political party allowed a crook to rise to its top," he said. "That, in turn, reveals the deeply unhealthy state of the GOP, not any extralegal steps being taken by his opponents."

Chait concludes his piece by mocking Republicans for thinking that Democrats are engaged in a conspiracy to indict a man whom Republicans themselves have admitted has flouted the law for decades.

"But no plot was necessary here," he writes. "The law finally catching up to a lifelong crook is utterly predictable."

Mar 30, 2024, 01:59

Dwnny

No proof - just a make-up story with vague allegations  no proven by examples of what Trump did criminally before 2016.    In other words the article is about as truthful as the writer is.    The present charges are all political and all BS.   So lets the courts decide what is real and what is political farce.

Biden accord to evidence available to the FBI and warnings by the banks to the  FBI that  Biden is involved in money laundering - was never investigated by the FBI,    How wasz it done - he established more than 20 shelve companies through which bribess were paid and the only function of the companies were to pay th money to members of the Biden family.   That at leas is proof of criminality - there is not a single thing or incident n the article posted by you.        .    .       

Mar 30, 2024, 07:32

It's only illegal if it was done by someone on the right:

Jon Stewart benefited by 829% ‘overvalue’ of his NYC home even as he labels Trump’s civil case ‘not victimless’

Mar 30, 2024, 08:37

That case was a farce - if fraud was committed in  that case the bank would have been defrauded.   and lost money.   In their evidence the Bank stated that Trump is one of their best customers and they would gladly give him and his companies future loans.   Nobody suffered as a result of the alleged fraud and the real fraud committed was by he District Attorney - who undervalued Trumps properties without calling for the use of an evaluator and submitted real fraud in her charging of Trump.

However, the result was that the case will be thrown out by a federal court and Trump may claim compensation from the City of New York iro judicial costs and a false charge of fraud when there was none.

So one ahs to wonder why the DA  was in constant contact with the Biden W#H about the case.   The idea was that  a BS amount be awarded to force Trump out of the election because he would not have money to campaign in the election.   What happened nis totally unconstitutional and the only real losers would be the city of New York insofar as construction development projects are concerned.     The developers will fear property grabbing if the State can steal their properties like hey tried to do in Trump's case.

Banana Republic BS in evidence. and developers will rather invest in Venezuela and Cuba where such property stealing by the state would  not be so obviously political. .

So please give us another example. where Trump crooked in his business dealings please.   

 

Mar 30, 2024, 10:50

It's only illegal if it was done by someone on the right

LOL except it wasn't the same thing. Nice try by the NY Post though.

Mar 30, 2024, 10:55

No it wasn't...it was worse...If you can't see the BS, I can't help you.

Mar 30, 2024, 11:09

If you can't tell you have been conditioned to give Trump a pass no matter what he does I can't help you either.


Spend two minutes on google and you will see why what Stewart did was not the same as what Trumps accused of or illegal.





Mar 30, 2024, 11:24

I know it wasn't the same...he sold his place for way more than market value...and payed taxes at below market value...Trump allegedly borrowed money against the inflated market vallue...he supposedly borrowed more than he should have...and paid it back...why must new legal president be set to charge him...and the preposterous bonds for appeal...total nonsense...put the people who's going after him under the looking glass...Fani Williams is a total disgrace to the legal profession...what will the excuses be when these nonsense get turned over by the Supreme Court?...Trump's judges?

Mar 30, 2024, 11:26

PS...the NYP was wring about the Hunter Laptop too.

Mar 30, 2024, 12:02

According to the left Trump is a criminal who belongs in jail...they have thrown the department of justice at him for more than 7 years and the best they could do is a couple of cases stretching the application of the laws and in some cases even changing the laws to charge him.

Mar 30, 2024, 12:19

he sold his place for way more than market value

Nothing illegal about that.

...and payed taxes at below market value.

You don't pay taxes on market value you pay taxes on assessed value. That's what Stewart payed taxes on. He did not provide the assessment, the city did and from reading around its not uncommon for assessed value to be markedly different from market value. So again nothing illegal here.

Trump allegedly borrowed money against the inflated market vallue...he supposedly borrowed more than he should have...and paid it back...

It isn't allegedly any more, the court ruled against Trump and the Trump Organization. Trump and the Trump Organization have been found to have been  deliberately deflating the value of his properties to reduce his tax bill and inflating them to increase the size of loans he could obtain and to do this they produced blatantly falsified documents.

why must new legal president be set to charge him...and the preposterous bonds for appeal...total nonsense...put the people who's going after him under the looking glass...Fani Williams is a total disgrace to the legal profession

Is it a new legal precedent? And even if it was, I can't imagine you would say that would matter a whole lot if Joe Biden was the one on trial here.

As for the bond the Judge just matched the disgorgement payment but that made it too difficult for Trump to obtain a bond that large so it was reduced to something he could realistically raise.

Put the people going after him under a looking glass. Well the problem is that's all Trump supporters do, they never put the evidence under the looking glass. If they did they might have to question their own views.

Fani Williams has nothing to do with this case.

...what will the excuses be when these nonsense get turned over by the Supreme Court?...Trump's judges?

Judges who rule against Trump, bad.

Judge who rule in favor of Trump, good right?

But in my view political appointments to the Supreme Court is a joke. The judiciary should always remain independent from the government as it should be one of the institutions that could hold the government to account. There should be no such thing as conservative or liberal judges, there should just be judges, like its done elsewhere. Its one of the reasons Poland fell foul of the EU, the previous government was interfering in the independence of the judiciary.

PS...the NYP was wring about the Hunter Laptop too.

What's that got to do with this situation?



Mar 30, 2024, 12:23

According to the left Trump is a criminal who belongs in jail...they have thrown the department of justice at him for more than 7 years and the best they could do is a couple of cases stretching the application of the laws and in some cases even changing the laws to charge him.

So Hunter Biden investigation slow...indication of deep state corruption and protection of one its own!

Donald Trump investigation slow...indicates dubious nature of investigation against Trump!, right?


Mar 30, 2024, 12:46

 

Mar 30, 2024, 14:52

only two clowns as dumb as the very dense denise and the hopless StavASS could post drivel like this.

The fact is no person on earth has been subject to as much legal scrutiny as Trump. Secondly, if these fascist/marxist/ globalist lunatics could find criminality relating to Trump they would have taken him to court long ago.

As it happens the cases brought against him by Smith, Willis, James and Bragg have been scoffed at by top legal eagles in America and ALL are falling apart as Trump rises in the polls and the American Public see the demonrats for the anti American anti democratic lunatics they are.

How many times have we seen these two mamparas so hopeful trump would get nailed. All to no avail. Bwahhahahahahahahaha

Now suddenly Trump is 4 billion dollars plus richer. Bwahahahahahahahhahahahahahahahahaha


Mar 30, 2024, 15:33

 Stav

That was total BS .   When any anybody try  to borrow money from any bamk the norm is that the borrower submit a report on the development and what it entails,    Aside of that the bank expect to get a cost assessment as to the loan amount needed and the viability of the project to be developed.   

The bank did not ignore he assessment and the amount of the loan to be granted.   What was weird is that  Trump applied for a loan of  $200 000 for the prohject6 and in a statement in the court the bank manager of Deutdhe Bank in New York said if he applied for $300 million the loan would have been approved..   

The Bank Manager who provided the loan confirmed two other things -  -

*   the loan amount and the interest was repaid in full; and

*   the Bank puts a high value ion Trump dealing with banks and they would give him loans in  future.

Now I want to ask  you a simple question - in any court case where a person that was dxfrauded must have lost money  or suffer losses as a result of the fraud - in this case the Bank mamnager laughed when the DA  tried to prove that they lost money .   

Now lets get back to valuation of Trumps properties - The whole case was concocted by the WH and the D A who visited the WH numerous ties before the charges were laid.   There was no real valuations obtained by the D A.   The valuations were included in the charge sheet without any reference of where the calculations came from. the WH  who wanted the Trump campaign without money to campaign in the election.   That is itself  is a criminal offence..     

The worst part is the DA and her WH advisors suggested a  totally ourageous bond and if the bonds are not provided they would  take over ownership of his properties?   Who will those      properties belong to?   It cannot being to the state - since that would be totally unconstitutional. since it would amount property theft from a US Citizen by the Government.

 So may i ask you a further question - do you take as strong a stand against corruption of  massive scale fraud by the  Biden crime family.     They took bribes from China, Iran and  Ukraine and at least 5 other countries.   The House investigation proved that there are at least 25 shelf companies the Biden's operated.   The only role of the companies played  were that  bribe money was paid into their bank accounts and from where the money was transferred to the bank accounts of members of the Biden family members - even his grandchildren got money paid into accounts. of  various members to the Biden family even his grandchildren were paid that way.  The banks suspected that is was a money laundering scam and submitted info on 25 such operations to the Treasury Department  and the FBI - but they refused to investigate the transactions.    When questioned in the House and Senate the stock answer was given - namely they cannot comment on an ongoing investigation - while in fact they did nothing about  the money laundering  and bribes.

So the Biden presidency  is the most corrupted presidency in the history of the USA.   


Mar 30, 2024, 15:41

Demorats are desperatly reviewing all their appointed DA/Judges in the US in an attempt to find one with a clean record for their next false case against President Trump.

No luck thus far it appears......in both instances.

TDS is a majot problem for more than one blogger on this forum it appears.

FOUR MORE YEARS coming your way soon Trumpies.


Mar 30, 2024, 18:29

So the Biden presidency  is the most corrupted presidency in the shitory of the UJ SA.  

Well done Mike, I'm sure it's not by design but you've added a new word to the english language. I reckon we could have a lot of fun with your latest shitory.

Mar 30, 2024, 19:00

LMAO!

"Shitory" is a good word to describe the garbage that ou Maaik spews out.

Mar 30, 2024, 20:32


Shitory

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Used to describe a period of time (days, months, years) that are inconsequential to the story being told. ... Get the Shitory mug.

Mar 31, 2024, 00:54

It's context Blobbok...context.....

Mar 31, 2024, 04:46

Sorry about the typo.   The word obviously is "history" 

Sure we must see things in context - you have people believing  BS in the media iro of criminal activities of people and tried to spin stories about issues like taxation with which the accused was not charged with to justify BS w here nobody was defrauded or lost money.     .     

The same people believe that real exposure in the House of crimes committed by the Biden's and covered up real criminal activities including bribery and corruption.

Amazing!!!!!!!!!!!  "shitory" obviously refer to idiotic shit believers supporting  Biden, despite proof  of bribery and corruption being exposed. .      

Mar 31, 2024, 06:29

Shitory alert!!!

Mar 31, 2024, 14:05

P!$$!ng on Maaik alert!!! You must feel so proud giving it to Ou Maaik...real tuff eksê!

 
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