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Sep 09, 2019, 00:29

When this section got named I was unfazed, after all Beano was among the group who helped 'resurrect' this message board. Sadly though, the trumpet has grown into a full-blown orchestra peddling a constant stream of right-wing GOP propaganda & the sickening fawning over his god Trump.
I'm not intent on denying him expressing his opinions but there should be a limit on the daily number of political spam posts. I think three a day is ok. Thanks.

Sep 09, 2019, 01:15

Or perhaps a new section could be created - Beeno's cage, with a re-brand of this section to The Trumpet

Sep 09, 2019, 03:23

Fight fire with fire, there are plenty of good videos on YouTube proving that all his bullshit is just fake news. If you look at his posts 99% get about a dozen views at most and most of those are probably him trying to get the numbers up.

It gives him something to do, you have to admit it must be boring being locked up in a padded call all the time with only a roll of tinfoil for company.

Sep 09, 2019, 04:17

"......with a re-brand of this section to The Trumpet"

or perhaps, Nutters Retreat.

Sep 09, 2019, 06:22

What Sader said. It is totally totalitarian to silence or curb free speach just because you don't like what's being said.

Sep 09, 2019, 08:33

“  Posted by: DbDraad (10484 posts)

Sep 09, 2019, 06:22

What Sader said. It is totally totalitarian to silence or curb free speach just because you don't like what's being said.“

Exactly what is happening here. It is OK to join all the social justice warriors in rubbishing anything slightly right of the extreme far left but don’t you dare say a word against the tree huggers or the toxic feminists. Typical MSM media-like MO going on here. 

Now I’m waiting for the backlash over my use of the term “toxic feminists” because it has become high fashion to talk about overall toxic masculinity. And don’t get me started in the #MeToo movement. 

Sep 09, 2019, 08:56

I am not intent on denying him expressing his opinions says poor blobbie lying through his yellow teeth. No that is exactly what you are doing. 

Same old snowflakes wanting a safe space because they lose all the debates. One Trump smear after another crashes and burns. 

My views are sunstantiated with facts and reason. All one gets from you far left radical losers is fake news and smears. 

So what happens. Off they run to Ed sobbing. Please limit that horrid Beeno to three posts a day they whine but we are not trying to limits his free speech say the big girl blouses!

My word have you ever heard anything as pathetic. Bwhahahahahahahahaha a girl's guide brigade has 100 times more fortitude than these wimps.

What really creases them is that my main stream conservative views, anti Globalist, progressive, cultural marxist views are winning the day. 

Trump himself makes fools of the globalist MSM  and just keeps winning for the American people adding more to their pain and outrage. Orange man bad they grunt while the sensible folk here just laugh. 

So they run to Ed tails between their legs. Hahahahaha is it possible to make yourself appear more pathetic. 

By the way I must ask Plum if I was a reason he left. 

Sep 09, 2019, 13:16

Crusaderfan

Do you really think fake news is only confined to the Trump side of the story?   There are fake news from every political angle - also from the Democrats and the media supporting them.   So in all cases  the norm seems to be the pot calling the kettle  black.

After all as I said under another posting - 'It is more honourable to be a prostitute than a politician."    After all Trump is in charge at present and the Democrats is trying to get rid of him.  In that effort they rely more on fake news than the Republicans do. 

Sep 09, 2019, 13:25

From 1916 J.P Morgan began buying up the media in America. It has been under intense control from that time. The entire right-left paradigm is a small palette of accepted positions, ideas etc that we are allowed to have. The media is built around this, with the likes of CNN being the desired position; FOX being controlled opposition, corralling viewers towards hyper-nationalism, though it contains considerably more truth than the left. The bottom line is to avoid the media. More research, more scrutiny of information. You'll begin to see the true nature of these globalists when you begin asking the right questions. Group think isn't requested, but aggressively enforced. Buried deep inside layers of irrational and hyper-sensitive emotionality. 

Sep 09, 2019, 13:38

Does God support the left or the right-wing?

Sep 09, 2019, 13:45

I don't believe any of them, I don't know why all you Chump supports always think everyone is a looney leftist if they dare to question/laugh at the orange missing link or any of the BS that beeno posts. As far as I am concerned its people just like beeno that the world needs to fear whether they are on the far right or far left. They are all the same

Sep 09, 2019, 15:01

CF

I am not a supporter of any politician and definitely not Trump.   The only difference is  that Trump is not really a politician - he is more of a business man.   I have been following what happened in the USA for months and came to the conclusion that the DP - whom I used to support lost its bearings completely and their only attack mechanism relates to what Trump is doing and saying,   When one really analyze what comes up on CNN and  other leftwing media  one has to come to the conclusion that they are desperate in not coming up with alternative workable policies and only has malignant stories to use against Trump.

That has not worked thus far and they are cutting their own throat when it comes to the 2020 election.        

Sep 09, 2019, 20:19

If someone is born into a billionaire family, it is hard to be sure if they are a businessman, or just able to exploit the weaknesses of a capitalist system.

Many of Trump's companies have gone bust, and been sold off- before he became liable for all the losses. He had expert accountants write of these companies, in a way that he would not be liable for the losses.

Trump wants interest rates to be reduced, so he can take credit for ongoing economic development. He could not care less if it crashes the economy in 10 years time...


Sep 09, 2019, 20:20

Sharkbok God dies not support abirtion/infanticide nor does God support LGBT.

Nor does God support illegal aliens murdering and raping. He doesn't support stealing. 

You obviously are once again all at sea. 

For an atheist who doesn't believe God exists your questions are a load of baloney more often than not. You think you are so clever but are as clueless as can be. 

Mike only a serious nutjob would consider voting for the demo rats

Sep 09, 2019, 20:30

God murdered millions of people, including ethnic cleansing that destroyed every form of life in the world except for the Ark.  


However, God does not support what the Christian Church determines as God's word....
Grow up, and wake the F up.

Sep 09, 2019, 20:58

SB

Trump has an IQ of 156 and has expanded the family fortune massively.   He is no doubt on genius level and is not really a right-winger, but rather very protective when it comes to the interests of the USA.  I also believe he is not really a politician - rather a business man who saw what went wrong under Bush and Obama and  did not think the conditions of life of ordinary people should deteriorate as badly as it did over the past 20 years.   He originally was a registered Democrat - but saw no future for he ordinary Americans under policies that made the ordinary people poorer and the financial and political elites wealthier.         

His enemies in the media is painting him as an ultra-right-winger which he is not,   Some of his policies - like for instance worker protection and advancement, education, etc  are rather more liberal than he is credited with,       .    

His sister who was a Judge in the New York Federal Court said - "Even as a child I know that it was not possible to compete with Donald because he always won".   That quote was repeated by a commentator on ABC news when it became clear that Trump was winning the 2016 election  and ABC is not a Trump supporting TV channel,          

Sep 09, 2019, 20:58

Duplicate 

Sep 09, 2019, 23:08

But your god does supports slavery and genocide, gee and here is me thinking those things were way worse than being gay. 

Sorry but there is no way you can consider your god as anything other than evil, thankfully for us its just a fairy tale.


Sep 10, 2019, 02:20

It stands to reason that if God is responsible for everything that happens then he is an entirely cruel being for the hardship and evil that manifests our world. So-called Christians who believe and preach that he does might want to rethink this one.

Sep 10, 2019, 02:52


Image result for gods religious views

Sep 10, 2019, 03:00

I would not accept what a tabloid says Trump's IQ is. This should be concluded by independent experts with no motive. 


It is easy to believe Einstein had a high IQ, or Sigmund Freud etc, etc. However, most people including Trump need an independent third party to evaluate IQ.

Sep 10, 2019, 03:17

All IQ investigations done by real experts are independent.   Which tabloid are you  referring to?

Sep 10, 2019, 03:24

Can you provide your source?  

Sep 10, 2019, 04:26

SB 

I accepted the list referred to by Beeno - but asked you a question - which tabloid were you  referring to?     

Sep 10, 2019, 05:23

First president in decades that's not a politician, wins election after being given absolutely no chance by almost every single poll or punded. Every kinda dirt you can think of is being thrown at him 24/7, he spent less on his campaign than most recent campaigns before him.

Yet, after he got elected, he is being countered at every turn. Everything he does is dissected  under a microscope, yet the economy is booming like never before...LET'S CALL HIM STUPID! Nothing else seems to stick.

Sep 10, 2019, 08:40

“ If someone is born into a billionaire family, it is hard to be sure if they are a businessman, or just able to exploit the weaknesses of a capitalist system. “

a. Fred Trump wasn’t a billionaire. So Donald Trump wasn’t born into a billionaire family.

b. Fred Trump was a very strict authoritarian. He’s wife had to keep tabs on the children and report on them on missteps for which the were punished for by doing extra chores on, among others, building sites.

c. Donald Trump lent money from his old man to start his own business. He was handed nothing. What is the difference between lending from the bank and start a business and lending from your dad to start a business? Probably only the interest rate.

d. Donald Trump’s business success has much more to do with hard work than money from his dad.

“ Many of Trump's companies have gone bust, and been sold off- before he became liable for all the losses. He had expert accountants write of these companies, in a way that he would not be liable for the losses. “

There are very few big business men who hasn’t had at least one business gone bust. That is the nature of big business. Go check.

Trump wants interest rates to be reduced, so he can take credit for ongoing economic development. He could not care less if it crashes the economy in 10 years time...  “

Lower interest rates stimulates the economy and higher interest rates cools it down. At times of low economic activity you lower interest rates and taxes. When the economy is too hot and needs to be slowed down to reduce inflation you increase them again. Economics 101. 

Inflation is a funny old thing. Growth as well. 

There were times in history when Trump was for higher interest rates. There are clips where he was asked to appear before Congress when he was a young man in the eighties, to advise them on the building industry and property development when he advocated for exactly that. That was at the time when all of the politicians loved him, especially the Dems. 

That was also the  times when every second talk show host nudged him to stand for President and everybody cheered, and he declined because, according to him, there had to be someone who should be able to do the job. Yep he was everybody’s pal and everybody wanted to be his pal. And then he stood for President........

Sep 10, 2019, 08:41

"Trump has an IQ of 156 and has expanded the family fortune massively.   He is no doubt on genius level and is not really a right-winger, but rather very protective when it comes to the interests of the USA.  I also believe he is not really a politician - rather a business man who saw what went wrong under Bush and Obama and  did not think the conditions of life of ordinary people should deteriorate as badly as it did over the past 20 years. "


Please note this is from the Trumpanzee who claims he's not a big fan of Trump!

LMAO!

Bozo's IQ is around 75 at best. He's squandered the millions he got from Daddy and the bungling fool couldn't even run a casino at a profit. He's the furthest thing from a genius one could imagine, he's a white supremacist, a racist and a bigot. The damage he's done to the USA will only be appreciated in the fullness of time.

There's some much-needed balance for the Trumpanzees.

Sep 10, 2019, 09:26

“......he's a white supremacist, a racist and a bigot.”

That’s it. You know the drill. Just keep on repeating it and, who knows, one day it may even come true.

Sep 10, 2019, 09:33

Oh look . . . a dull-witted and brainwashed Trumpanzee telling someone else they're repeating the same propaganda they read somewhere on the internet.


I'm guessing they don't see the irony . . . and what's the bet this particular Trumpanzee replies with something along the lines of "buh . . . buh . . . but what about Hillary? What about Obama?"

LMAO!

Sep 10, 2019, 09:54

Once again. Who do you judge the US president against? Past or future presidents? There are IMO only two possibilities when judging the current president. It can only be either the previous president/s or the opposing candidate had he not been elected. As for the past presidents who better than his immediate predecessor? You know the one whose policies the electorate chose to reject in favour of the current one.

Hope you get it this time around and don’t forget it again.

Sep 10, 2019, 11:02

Accepted the list by Beeno. Did not search for articles that would support or contradict. The far right-wing religious love Trump. He is their messiah....

Sep 10, 2019, 11:02

a basic search in Google, and just about all reports agree that Trump overstates what he has done


https://tinyurl.com/y6xhg57z

Amongst the sources include:

forbes.com

Far more reliable than a tabloid for American red necks. 

Sep 10, 2019, 11:29

You two entirely missed the point anyway.   The economy is booming and more than 7 million workers found jobs destroyed by Obama and Bush through agreements with NAFTA and China.  Obama said the jobs will never come back - they did.   Would you rather be unemployed living off food stamps than being employed?    Are those workers right wing reactionaries?   Don't think so - they are looking after the interests of their families.   

The increase of support from 11%  to circa 30% of African Americans and 33% to 50% of Latino's - found through University research - making them right wing reactionaries?  Do not think so - they are merely looking after their own interests.

Some pockets were badly hurt as a result of treaty cancellations and some media has lost the plot totally and fabricated negative stories 24 hours a day,   If you fall for that you must be as crazy as the extreme leftists in the USA.            .  

Sep 10, 2019, 11:56

"You know the one whose policies the electorate chose to reject in favour of the current one."


My goodness, every time I lower the Trumpanzee intelligence bar they drop it down further.

Barack Obama wasn't rejected by the voters, he had served the two terms (that's one term more than Bozo will serve) he could have served as per the constitution. If Obama had been able to serve a third term then I'm pretty sure the USA would be a much nicer, more prosperous and less polarised place to live.

Sep 10, 2019, 12:03

@Sharkbok. I would still like to see a source proving that Trump was “...born into a billionaire family...”

That is factually not true. Did he borrow money from his dad? Yes. Did he build up his empire on his own. Actually yes. He was in big major trouble at a time when many big companies were also in trouble and actually went down. Trump survived and then thrived. Was that down to his dad? He has had many milestones for which he was hailed and loved by everybody, mainly the left.

His issues started when he opposed the establishment and ran for president under the conservative banner. That was what started everybody’s dislike in him. And they never learn. Don’t challenge him by saying something cannot be done. He will go out and do it.

There is the story of the New York council (I think it was) who took years to finish an ice rink for the youth. He said that he would do it in six months, or something and they laughed at him. He did it in four months and under budget. He was a hero and they had egg all over their faces.

Congress wouldn’t assist him in the border issue so he said that he would get the Mexican govt to to help and they laughed. He threatened them with tariffs and within 24 hours the Mexican top brass was in DC thrashing out a plan to tackle the mess. The left still laughed and said it wouldn’t last.

Next moment Mexico deployed thousands of troops on their borders and jacked up their own laws. Are the left still laughing? No, they avoid the subject as like the plague.

And the left wing media? They’re quiet about it as well. They are still hiring trucks to drive away the egg they are wiping from their faces.

Sep 10, 2019, 12:07

Bwhahahahaha the stupidity revealed by rooibozo is breath taking. 

Hussein Obummer campaigned heavily for Crooked hilarious. 

Obummer would never have deregulated, lowered taxes or use American energy - he was much too keen on Vladimir and his Muslim bothers.

Face facts this community activist was the worst US  president ever. 

If justice is served Obummer will be tried for treason and hung.

No clearly it is Trump who has the magic wand. 

You comment on Trump being a 1 term president is noted. 

Sep 10, 2019, 12:30

That story about Obama is funny,  The string of new DP possible candidates in 2020 now attack Obama as an ineffective President,  Is that not really hilarious?    

Sep 10, 2019, 13:12

The only real threat to Trump for 2020 is Tulsi Gabbard but unfortunately for her she is not a conformist like the rest of the loonies and she doesn't subscribe to the narrative. No surprise that the rest of the clique is on the roll to get her sidelined. Tulsi is the only one with her own identity and ideas and she doesn't toe the extreme left wing socialist agenda.

Sep 10, 2019, 13:32

@Ceradunce,


"Economics 101", sure so Trump and you know more than the people who set interest rates. America is in massive debt simpleton, reducing interest rates will only worsen the problem.

You must be extremely stupid to not understand why there is such a thing as interest rates, and why it can't just be reduced. 
Economics 101 would explain this, such as what collateral is. Without collateral, the economy would become like a Mugabe economy...
While economics is not my area, I certainly know much more than you about the topic...

Trump wants to reduce interest rates (and increase debt), just so the economy can get an artificial boost for him to win the next election. Any slowdown in economic growth and your far right-wing friend is gone

Sep 10, 2019, 13:57

The debt was caused by Obama ($11 trillion) and Bush ($7 trillion) and now stands at $22 trillion.  Why should the  industry and commerce continue to suffer because of the two previous presidential idiots?  

Sep 10, 2019, 16:20

Eish. I am also not an Economics professor but I have passed Economics 101.

Where do we start?

“ "Economics 101", sure so Trump and you know more than the people who set interest rates. America is in massive debt simpleton, reducing interest rates will only worsen the problem.“

Trump wants to lower domestic interest rates. The USA debt that you are referring to is international debt and a higher domestic interest rate is not going to help that one bit. What lower domestic interest rate can do is it can stimulate the economy. A stimulated economy increases market activity domestically. That, in return raises earnings which increases taxes due. But higher domestic earnings also potentially result in That, in return, raises domestic spending which raises higher earnings by businesses which raises profits by businesses on which higher taxes are paid. So, it is a full circle process by which give still raise taxes but without raising the tax rate. Economics 101, as I said.

“You must be extremely stupid to not understand why there is such a thing as interest rates, and why it can't just be reduced. ”

I trust that my previous argument show that I do know why there is such a thing as interest rates and how it can be a tool to use in managing the economy. I do grant you that it can also be used as a political tool but I do not agree that Trump is using it as such. More about that later.

“Trump wants to reduce interest rates (and increase debt), just so the economy can get an artificial boost for him to win the next election. Any slowdown in economic growth and your far right wing friend is gone”

I’m afraid but you are missing the boat on this one. Trump has been advocating for lower interest and tax rates even during his 2016 election campaign, long before he even considered running in 2020 as well. That is why I said earlier that I doubt whether Trump is using it as political tool. Trump probably understands finances and international markets better than most if not all USA presidents since WWII.

The US economy is not in an artificial growth cycle. It is in a real growth cycle. Employment figures alone should be the first hint but if that is not good enough for you then surely the return of manufacturing to the USA should be telling you something. Remember how Obama told everybody and their granny that those jobs are gone for ever and would never return. IMO, Obama knew fokol about international markets and finance.

Sep 10, 2019, 17:41

To put is succinctly Sharktwit has no idea about interest rates or anything really.

Your interest rates has a bearing also on your competitiveness. When competitors nation lower their interest rates and you don't their competitive improves 

So Germany and China lower rates to gain an advantage. 

There was no reason for the Fed to raise rates like they as their was zero inflation. Further the increased rates cost about 500 billion dollars a year. 

Trump was right to call the Fed out. 

Two things. We could well see the globalist dominated Fed raise rates near the election to crash the US economy and help defeat Trump. Trump very obviously is aware of this. 

If Trump nails a trade deal with China it is estimated the Dow will go up by 10,000 points. 

Hence the demonrats opposition to tarrifs. Their praying for a recession - its all on record.

To hell with what's good for American citizens. 

2020 is hugely consequential as to whether the USA survives as a free Republic or whether is goes full on marxist/globalist adopting mind blowing policy disasters.

TRUMP 2020 KAG! FOR THE SAKE OF THE WORLD AS A WHOLE. 

Sep 10, 2019, 21:26

Utter BS. The people who decide interest rates have by far the best knowledge of what is best for the economy. They might not be right 100% of the time, but they certainly know more than Joe Blogs. 

Otherwise, why have interest rates at all? If you don't understand collateral, then you do not have 101 of economics. 

If there was no interest rates, people would spend above their means (which is already happening). If there was no interest rates, people that save (instead of consuming) become poorer, which defeats the point of making a profit.

Search in Google about interest rates, and find people that are qualified in this area. I admit these people know a million times more than what I do. They provide strong arguments for when to reduce interest rates, and when to increase them. 

Trump's government continues to increase to the national debt. It is currently higher than what it has ever been. It is irrelevant if the debt is to other countries, debt is debt. 

The credit crunch recession was caused by irresponsible lending that was not based on real value (collateral). People spent above their means, and when confidence was lost- the economy crashed. This was the banks that did this. 

Some of the smart financial experts saw that the economy would crash before it did because they understand economics. They sold lots of investment assets and made a killing once the inevitable crash happened..... (The Credit Crunch)


Sep 10, 2019, 21:54

It will take years before the full extent of Bozo's utter incompetence is fully realised.

Sep 11, 2019, 00:30

'It will take years before the full extent of Bozo's utter incompetence is fully realized'.

Whereas Obummer's incompetence..........the Arab Spring, destroying Libya, facilitating the advent of Isis, allowing Russia to walk into Crimea, ignoring the border crisis, regulating the starch out of US business and orchestrating the slowest recovery since WW2.........is already completely apparent.

Sep 11, 2019, 07:06

There is something very pertinent in the SA Constitution - the function of the Reserve Bbank and that is protecting the quality of the Rand as a currency,  The Zumanoids wanted  to change it and used the Public Protector to recommend such a change,   It flopped because the Appeals Court declared that her recommendation was totally wrong.

The issue of debt of  Government of any country revolves around economic growth,   The additional income derived by Government from economic growth has a major role in repayment of the debt. In the sixteen years of Bush and Obama administration the debt rose from circa $3,3 trillion to circa $21 trillion.   That was done while the printing presses ran wild printing money.

The only way that the problem can really be solved is through economic growth - which was way below par and even non-existent under Bush and Obama,   One of the key elements for economic growth is availability of loans at low rates to enhance borrowing capacity by the private sector to  fund projects with a direct link ensuring economic growth and increasing of Government real income.  

The other part of the issue is Government spending not only on social issues relating to housing and related problems but on infrastructure projects as well.   Wise Government spending on those type of projects also boost economic growth, but the Obama Administration did zilch to enhance economic growth through those means.

Even if Obama  could have had a third term he would have been rejected by the electorate.   If he was that popular he would have helped Clinton to win the presidency.  He tried his utmost in campaigning vigorously in the four Rust Belt states - Ohio a normal swing state won by Obama in 2008 and 2012, Michigan and Pennsylvania  (voted Democratic in every election since 1988)  and Wisconsin  (voted Democratic in every election since 1984), which the Democrats called the "Blue Wall".    The Democrats lost in all four states and Obama would also have lost in those four states because the blue collar workers rejected the Obama system totally and he would NOT have won a third term.  The comment from ordinary voters in Pennsylvania made on ABC news election night broadcast from Pennsylvania was " Jobs trump everything".   Even with jobs their standard of living declined by 22%  in the last 30 years,

The growth in Government debt from 2000 to 2016 was not linked to economic growth and trillions were spent on ineffective cost-covering issues.     

   

 

   

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Sep 11, 2019, 15:04

Great points Mke and Moz.

These two clowns don't know that you raise interest rates to combat inflation. There was no inflation and NO valid reason to raise rates and by as much as they did.



Sep 11, 2019, 17:55

@Sharkbok. 

This is very interesting. Check this clip. It actually also links to the thread about John Bolton by our friend who also likes to refer to Trump as Bozo. Listen to what Ken Fisher says about Trump and the way he operates. Pay attention, in particular, to him talking about interest rates from about 8:00 onwards, where he says that he does not have a problem with the Fed cutting rates. 


Just a bit of info on Ken Fisher. He is the founder CEO of Fisher investments who have $112Bn under management. He has a personal net value in excess of $3Bn. 

"The firm has offices in Washington, California, Texas, the United Kingdom, Germany, Dubai, Australia and Japan, with further global expansion underway.


His prestigious Forbes “Portfolio Strategy” column ran from 1984 through 2016, making Ken the longest continuously running columnist in the magazine’s history. He now writes regular columns for USA Today, the UK's Financial Times , Germany's Focus Money, Italy's Il Sole 24 Ore, Denmark's Børsen, Sweden's Dagens Industri, Switzerland's Handelszeitun and the Netherlands' Telegraaf. Ken has authored 11 books on finance and investing, including 4 New York Times bestsellers."

Chances are that he just may know a little more about world economics and interest rates and shyte than you and me put together. :D

Sep 11, 2019, 20:12

Fisher probably didn't say enough pro Trump stuff to get our resident clown rooibozo to call him a fool. 

I could be wrong. 

Rooibozo must wonder how fools become billionaires whilst a genius like him barely makes it!:D 

Sep 12, 2019, 14:32

@Ceradyne,

This person does know more about finance than either of us. However, how objective is he? 

If someone sells ice cream, of course they are going to say ice cream is fantastic. 

Or are they going to say people should only buy ice cream when it is sunny? 

-

The fact remains that if having no interest rates, or always having low-interest rates was the best option - then there would be no such thing as interest rates at all....

People that want to increase interest rates are doing so, to ensure that people do not overspend, and those get do save- get rewarded for this. 

Increasing interest rates has the effect of reducing a nation's debt. It brings the risk of loans closer to the real market value (Collateral). It makes an economy more stable, and less likely to crash.

If the economies crashed tomorrow, and the banks need to be bailed out again - then interest rates would be reduced to give the economy a short term boost.


Have you seen the movie with Christian Bale called the Big Short?  It is based on a true story, where a financial expert predicts the crash. Christian Bale identifies that the housing market is not based on market value and bets against the economy- and makes billions from it. 

The same thing happened before the credit crunch. The true experts identified what was going to happen before the actual crash, and turned it into an opportunity to make billions.

Most investment bankers are slimeballs. Another good movie is the one with Leonardo Capriro- Wolf of Wallstreet- also based on a real-life person that eventually went to jail for fraud and negligence. It shows allot of investment bankers are just salespeople, with no knowledge of the markets.


Sep 12, 2019, 15:52

Obummer had a zero interest rate. Trump now has, was it, 2.5% meaning some 390 billion dollars is being added to national debt per annum. The raising of interest rates hurts export so with competitors knocking various levels of basis points off thevr rates Trump wants interest rates cut for that reason also. Remember there is no inflation. Trump is right again.

The Congressional Budget Office (CBO) projects that interest payments will continue to grow rapidly, rising from $389 billion in fiscal year 2019 (the current fiscal year) to $914 billion in 2028. Overall, net interest costs will total nearly $7 trillion over the next decade

To get out of this Trump has to grow GDP so the Debt/GDP ratio goes down.  Obviously government expenditure must decrease. But to get his money to refurbish the military he had to agree to wasteful Demonrat expenditure. 

When the GOP retakes the House in 2020 Trump can deal with the deficit far more effectively.

Sep 13, 2019, 08:01

@Shark


Low interest rate = aids economy in climbing out of trouble.

Higher interest rate = holds economy in check.

After a period of sustained growth and momentum, the U.S. will raise it's rates. In combination with the new trade deals...expect Trump to be the most economically successful president in a lifetime. 

He is almost that already, while clearly being some distance from his end game.

Many U.S. politicians know this. They hate that some reality tv weirdo is showing them up so severely and by default exposing the persistent ineptitude's long hiding behind bureaucracy.

Sep 13, 2019, 09:06

Plum, hoe gaan dit. Are you still in the Republic?

Sep 13, 2019, 09:39

Hi Draad

Yes. Still in SA. Doubt I will be for much longer though. 


Sep 13, 2019, 14:05

Plum I thought you were in Canada already.   In essence I am  very happy about our contribution on this issue - it is clear and precise.  Sounds like you worked for the Reserve Bank for a while.  LOL  

Sep 13, 2019, 15:03

The hate filled raging anti God atheist "fools" here have been busy venting their hatred of God.

The fool sharktwit concludes saying thankfully God doesn't exist. But the FOOL still can't answer how a universe created itself out of nothing and neither can the cowardly fool rooitwit.
The FOOLS also can't explain how the information contained in a stand of DNA came about. Equivalent to 350 volumes of encyclopedia
Man, isn't it delicious how science has turned on these fools big time.
Now old sharktwit complains bitterly about God's judgment regarding the flood Like all extreme leftist loons he loves lawlessness. How dare God judge sinners. Yet even a loon like sharktwit at times is outraged at something or other being wrong and wants justice. Trust i am not giving the loon too much credit!
The flood demonstrates to mankind that God will judge and rightly so. We all actually realize that much but hate that we might be judged of course.
The astounding thing actually is God's amazing forbearance. What a stench in the nostrils of a Holy, All Knowing, Perfect Being mankind must be. Think about that for a moment. We should all have been wiped out long ago. We all become numbed to sin. The murder of 63 million American children hardly registers with some. We have little idea how awful we all are when measured against the Holiness of God!
Sin by the way entered the world when Adam and Eve invited the devil in and chose to obey the devil rather than God's command to them.
Don't attribute to God the works of the Devil!
Bob Dylan famously sang - you gotta serve somebody, now it maybe the devil and it maybe the Lord but you gotta serve somebody. Why serve that loser devl!
Hope to see you All in Heaven sometime. Remember you have to come through the Door. The Door is Christ, God the Son who made everything you see and don't see.The worlds were made through Him and FOR Him.
Joost died, Reuben Kruger died, now vts Chester next ts you perhaps? Don't keep your head buried in the sand seek the Lord while you still have breath! He died on the Cross and then rose again and is alive forevermore. Hence he can reveal Himself to you.

Sep 13, 2019, 19:29

I spoke to God yesterday, and he said Beeno is a fool. 


Also a primitive simpleton for thinking that God takes sides. Like the medieval era of religious wars. with 2 sides fighting over 2 versions of the same book originally written in Babylon....

Beeno is a bible basher that can't understand the deeper values of what the good parts of religious texts are about. :D 

Back to the Poll Request of this thread;

For Beeno, he has 2 goals to be gained from religion:

1. Get into heaven, and have an eternal afterlife...

2. Use his association with the Bible/God while here on Earth to imply he is a better person than most/all others. Push and Peddle his opinions as to the Word of God... Anyone that fits his dogma like Trump is part of God's crew, and everyone else is part of the Devil's crew. 
 
3. Become a better person

4. Selectively use quotes from the Bible to support your own dogma, even if the contradictions within the Bible have opposite opinions. 

Sep 15, 2019, 12:59

Nope if you understood even the most basic Biblical truths, which you don't, you would know in God's sight we are all sinners. We don't go to Heaven because we are better than others. 

We boast not of ourselves but of Christ. 

Of course going to Heaven and being given the gift of eternal life is wonderful news, so wonderful one must share it. Pity you are not going to Heaven but it's your choice. 

The Globalist NWO is of Satan and the Biblical reasons are very clear. 

And no sharktwit Christ was not crucified on Christmas day. 

As for Trump its great he arrived in the nick of time to take on the Satanic Globalists. Man do they hate him for destroying their NWO and all the progress they had been making for their one world government tyranny. 

Right now things are heading in the right direction but the battle rages. 

Great to see the Globalist big Tech firms coming under serious scrutiny. 

Like to see anti American globalist rags like CNN, MSNBC, ABC, NBC, WAPO AND NYT shut down for starters. All their lies etc are doing America no good. But at the rate they are losing support hopefully they will silence themselves as viewers etc continue to switch off.

I see your buddy rooibozo can't explain how a universe created itself from nothing. As a raving atheist loon who insists God doesn't exist perhaps you can help the BOZO out and do the explaining. The cowardly rooitwit has given up. He is out for the count. Bwhahahahaha.

Come on sharktwit. You have a big loud atheist mouth, thinking everyone who believes in God is crazy, you explain this. Explain also the 350 volumes of IFORMATION contained in every strand of DNA. 

 Two versions of the same book written in Babylon! You ignorant loon. 

Sharktwit your opining on spiritual matters where  you are clueless is worse that that arch mampara rooitwit who crashes again and again on political matters. 



Sep 15, 2019, 13:05

Good luck with your afterlife insurance policy. 

The only problem there are thousands of religions with similar afterlife insurance policies...

Sep 15, 2019, 13:24

The lefties are forever advocating freedom of speech. It looks to me, though, that freedom of speech is and will always be based upon the condition that you stick to the leftie agenda. You automatically forfeit your freedom of speech the minute you fail to toe the leftie line.

What they do seem to forget, though, is that along with freedom of speech there is another freedom. The freedom of choice. You have the freedom to choose whether you read someone’s post or not.

Ou Blobbie, you have the freedom of choice, ie the freedom to choose whether or not you read Beeno’s political ramblings or not.

Same goes for Sharkie. You have the freedom to choose whether to read Beeno’s religious ramblings or not, just like Beeno has the freedom to choose whether to read your anti Christian ramblings or not.

You same to be just as guilty as Beeno when it comes to religion. You like to preach atheism as much as he likes to preach Christianity.

Pot ....... kettle ..... black?

Sep 15, 2019, 16:25

@Ceradyne,


I am an anti-theist, not an atheist. That means I believe the world would be a better place without religion, at least in the modern world. I do believe in the possibility of an afterlife etc, but I believe that religion is made by man and not God. 
At the moment Muslim is the worst religion, but most religions as we know them today originate from the Arabs in the Middle East. Abraham is, for example, an Arab. 

I do not see how having a monolithic God is democratic because it is intolerant to other views. It uses God to be the definitive truth. I have no problem with religious people that use religion as inspiration to be good people, however, I can't stand Bible-bashing hypocrites. 

For a far right-wing person, everyone else is on the left-wing- but it this is primitive thought like Cane and Abel (Good or Bad, not a relative truth). 

The Christian Church fought for years to suppress freedom of speech and viewpoints that were not a far-right wing.  Now as the religion is on the decline, the former persecutors of freedom of speech, now want to be protected under freedom of speech...

I am not creating hundreds of posts about far-right-wing dogma- which is what this post was about.... 

Sep 15, 2019, 17:57

Whatever you are as far as your beliefs are is up to you and none of my business and certainly none of my concern. It is your right to believe whatever you want and it is also down to your freedom of choice. I’ve said it before and I stand by that.

It is also Beeno’s freedom of choice to post the stuff as long as he stays within the forum rules, if any. I also don’t believe that it is appropriate to call for steps to infringe on his rights as much as it is not appropriate to call for steps to infringe on your rights to disagree with him if you so wish, of course.

See where I’m going with this? It boils down to what I always say. If you don’t like it don’t read it. Simples really.

If you feel the need to respond to any post by anyone then go ahead. It is your right. That is what debate is about after all and that is the reason for forums such as this one. To provide a platform for debate.

The one thing that is important, though, is that you have to realise that the minute you have posted something you have opened yourself up for debate and you also have to accept that you may, and most probably will, face disagreement. It is all part of the package.

Sep 15, 2019, 18:40

Ou sharktwit and Blobbie are whining cause they keep losing the debates. Guess it must be distressing for the snowflakes:D

The brainwashed "mind" hates thinking. These doormats are just there to be told what to think.
So far gone are they that they genuinely resent any other view that shows up their bent lies. 
Think how poor rooitwit must feel. He comes bounding onto the board with some very obviously fake news. The oaks put him right and he slinks off tail between legs. Sharktwit suffers similarly. 
Bwhahahahaha. 
If ya can't take the heat stay out the kitchen sharktwit and Blobbie. 
Allow the adults to debate the questions of the day. 

Sep 15, 2019, 19:41

How can absolute truth be debated? If a religion's God's says something is true (absolute), it is an objective fact, not subjective. Democratic truth is a relative truth open to debate which version is more true. 

The Church has had its fun in the past, but it is on its way out- at least in the Western World. We will be feeding you to the lions soon:cheerful: 


 
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