After the fall of Bakmut what comes next?

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May 22, 2023, 19:35

The clear thinking Colonel Douglas McGregor gives his views. 

After fall of Bakmut

May 22, 2023, 20:14

The Liberation of Bakmut hopefully.

May 22, 2023, 20:39

Chicken Kyiv

May 22, 2023, 22:00

Bakhmut is being encircled. The Wagner group will be leaving Bakhmut soon, or at least what is left of them.

The counter-attack starts soon. 

May 23, 2023, 00:21


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Why Russia and Ukraine are fighting over Bakhmut

May 23, 2023, 01:26

This is amazing after 15 months the best the Russians have is a disputed claim that their mercenaries have taken a town of 73000 people.

May 23, 2023, 05:53

What is amazing is that the propaganda angle of both sides in the war gave a different version of what is happening in the Ukraine war.     There is no difference in the media in the past 150 years.

The pro-war media write as if they  like Clinton have direct  access to Putin's inner sanctum.    If one believes what they write on both sides is propaganda  then it is spot on.    The Russian armaments is useless and the American second hand armaments is glorious and the Russians is raping women and not fighting - but in constant defeat  - losing  hundreds and thousands of troops through desertion and  loss of life.   The glorious Ukraine army is winning the war and Putin will be killed soon.     The media is supporting a war in which the USA is desperately trying to replace weapons they have donated to Ukraine.   

If people say the War is causing instability in the world and the matters should be resolved through negotiation they are made out to be pro-Putin.    The War is enriching a lot of people and with a weak and corrupt Government in Washington is causing  havoc on international level strengthening the position of China.    The Taiwan Government ordered and paid for armaments - but delivery has been delayed and the threat of war in the Far East is increasing.    

When it comes to Bakmut it is clear that Ukraine has lost the battle and admit that the town has been conquered by the Russiaans - but that loss is only temporary and the Ukrainians have surrounded the town and is about to be reconquered and the Russians will be forced to surrender.      I doubt that very much.                         

May 23, 2023, 05:53


May 23, 2023, 06:28

Russian military and Wagner Group mercenary forces have pummeled the city for months, reducing it to a charred ghost town.

No. The destruction was wreaked by the Ukrainian side as well.

This is modern war with modern means: anything considered as an obstacle is removed.

Anytime the Ukrainian army perceived a building as an obstacle, they destroyed it.

As they are leaving positions, they are destroying buildings that could be used by  the Russians as defensive positions.

It may be that Ukraine has destroyed the most of the city, not the Russians.

Modern wars with modern means. Liberals, though, who have invented modern war and its total model, as in many other things, can not bear depicting it for what it is. They must dress in order to avoid facing.

May 23, 2023, 07:18

Bakmut became a trap that Zelensky fell into. The Russians left roads open so that Bakmut could be reinforced. So at a minimum 50,000 Ukrainian troops were slaughtered. The life span for a new recruit in Bakmut was said to be 4 hours.

Bakmut became a meat grinder. 

The Ukrainians have lost some 350,000 men killed and well over 400,000 seriously wounded. Their army so carefully built up by the US to fight Russia has been decimated. The likely  kill ratio is 10 Ukrainian soldiers to 1 Russian.

The fact that the war has been lost is dawning on the psychopaths on Washington. They will be spinning like tops in the months ahead. 

The Mozzzzquito is as deceitful as usual. He ignores the Russian plan to allow the Ukrainian into Bakmut to be destroyed. He says it's only a town of 73,000 and look how long it took to take it. He also ignores the fact the size of the town is not the issue. Zelensky was throwing troops and equipment etc into Bakmut on a large scale. 

The mud should dry in June and then the offensives will begin. I cant see Ukraine's offensive amounting to much if it in fact happens. The Russian offensive will crush the Ukrainians. Odessa will revert back to Russia. 

If there are no peace negotiations the Russian army will arrive on the borders of Poland and Romania. 

I mention the above as some of those commenting on McGregors view probably didn't view the clip.

So Putin is still alive. There has been no uprising of the Russian people to take out Putin. The Russian economy has not collaose but is doing fine. The Russians have not run out of ammo its the Ukrainians having that problem. Similarly Rusdia has no problem recruiting but Ukraine has. Further I don't see any Ukrainian army arriving at Moscow. 

I see that Ukraine has been devastated. The population has dwindled from 34 million to about 29 million. Infrastructure smashed and hundreds of thousands killed and wounded. 

All this happened because NATO wanted to move further East. Led by the US  t hey didn't want Ukraine to be a non aligned buffer state. They effected a COUP against a pro Russian president in 2014 and immediately set about building an army to fight Russia. 

They set up gain of function bio labs in Ukraine and pointed missiles against Russia. They refused Russian in the East Ukraine their rights and launched a genocide against these people. 

After many warnings Putin realised he had to act and did. 

Globalist ruled USA instigated this war. It plays into their Great Reset plan, helping the war in energy and war on food and fostering an economic collapse. In terms of destroying the West it forced other nations into the China,/Russia coalition that will in due course become the dominant block in the world. 

Many moving parts here. Everything is happening to bring us to Rev 13.

Meanwhile many elites in Europe and the USA get richer. War is a profitable business after all. 


May 23, 2023, 07:32

Ou StavAss is a hopeless case. He thinks the Zelensky Regime is the epitome of a democracy. He ignores the fact that Zelensky IS A WEF PUPPET. He ignores the fact that this perverted little cross dresser has become a billionaire for his services rendered to the WEF.

StavASS ignores the fact the Zelensky Government and army is riddled with NAZIS. He ignores the fact Zelensky has banned all opposition parties and the press. He ignores the fact Zelensky is waging war on the Ukranian Orthodox Church. In other words he ignores the fact that Zelensky is a tyrannical dictator propped up by US led NATO. He has slowed his country to be used to fight a proxy war on behalf of THE Biden led US. 

StavASS also ignore's the fact Ireland is being invaded by migrants. 

To sum it all up StavAss is an ignorant buffoon who has no clue whatsoever and is a traitor to his country Ireland - if the hapless nutter is indeed Irish. 

I see though the Irish are fighting back against the invaders. 

May 23, 2023, 14:25

Beeno, it is incredibly hard to not think that you are actually enjoying watching the atrocities of this war, and that this "somehow" justifies whatever decisions or beliefs you have regarding how this war happened and where the fault lies...

Irrespective of who did what and when to start this war.... your level of enjoyment or amusement that is entrenched in your threads throughout this entire forum, pertaining to how "correct" you think you really are..... at the expense of so many innocent lives lost... is actually quite despicable. 

May 23, 2023, 15:29

Beeno is a Nazi who under hides the banner of God. Backward and twisted, without any basic understanding of morals.

May 23, 2023, 15:33


Iam totally disgusted by the present war.    I think there was negotiations to stop the problems in Ukraine and the raging civil war as far back as 2015.   However the agrement was never implemented.

The problem started with the USA  and goes back directly to the coup organized and funded by the USA  in 2014.    That was unconstitutional  and the country is operating without a constitution at present,   The USA supporting its appointees  in 2014 and ever since.     Ukraine became the hotbed for political corruption in both the USA and Ukraine.

The Civil War simmered on -  however, intensity increased after Biden took over the Presidency in the USA,    Fact is it became so bad and Russia started sending troops to the border areas,   Since then there were 2 further meetings to prevent and stop the war in Ukraine - both were sabotaged by the USA.    If the USA wants to the War will stop tomorrow.   

May 23, 2023, 16:19

There are atleast 2 sides to any conflict...Russia decided to invade a sovereign country, but that doesn't mean Ukraine has absolutely no hand in this conflict...why did Russia pick this time in history ro I have said so many times makes no sense at all looks scripted like a bad episode of COD MW.

May 23, 2023, 17:01

Some people will be very embarrassed later on by their stupidity...we will see them splutter , duck and dive.

May 23, 2023, 17:25

DA stop being a silly mampara. I have protested against this war from day 1. The killing of all this people is an abomination so no more lies about my views DA.

As for that pathetic dump of manure, sharkTWIT he still doesn't realize he is supporting a Regime riddled with Nazis. I really don't know how human being can be so dumb! Bwahahahahahha

No my main purpose has been to call for a end to the war and to explain that Russia is winning the was and that the war was instigated by the US led NATO. Mike and I have provided all the proof ones needs about this. Anybody thinking Russia marching into Ukraine started this war is an ignoramus or worse still and a full on a spectacular liar.

Seb they are already beginning to splutter and dive.  The monumental stupidity on display is hilarious. The war is not hilarious but these buffoons definitely are!

May 24, 2023, 03:09

The Russians marching into the Ukraine started the war.

May 24, 2023, 04:15

The war has been going on since 2014,ole Mike has explained everything but you guys cannot read. Rather listen to Hollywood media.

I skipped the area totally on my tour up thru Russia those years ago.Rusdia is telling NATO to bugger-off. 

May 24, 2023, 04:16

May 24, 2023, 04:30


May 24, 2023, 04:39

I think Bakmut was the Stalingrad of this war.    Th e only thing happening  after the Ukrainians lost Bakmut is a full scale retreat by Ukraine with Odessa and Kharkov falling to Russia.    Odessa would be an embarrassment for the USA,   They built a biolab in the city in 2018 with money  funneled illegally through Dr Faucci and the Department of Defense.    That was done in the period before Trump discovered that the Wuhan Lab was funded and stopped it after he dismissed Dr Dath from his advisory role.                   

May 24, 2023, 05:05

No, that's a lie Mozart...the civil war against ethnic Russians started especially in 2014.

The denial syndrome is nothing new. During WW2 in the initial stages, until about August 1942, a lot of Americans did not know what the Nazis were doing in Europe to the Jews and other ethnic groups in death camps.

Henry Ford, (and Duke of Windsor in England) even collaborated with Hitler.

The denial was brought out in that excellent series, "War and Remembrance" with Robert Mitchum, Jane Seymour, Victoria Tennant, Robert Morley and Chaim Topol (to mention a few actors/actresses)...a sort of follow on by the earlier "Winds of War".

Hitler's Influence in the US Was Greater Than You May Think | Time

Ford and the Führer | The Nation

Hitler’s American Friends: Henry Ford and Nazism : The History Reader

Truth Behind the Myth of American Ignorance on the Holocaust | Time

May 24, 2023, 05:10

So remind me, why the invasion, genocide, murder, mayhem, war crimes & wilful destruction?

May 24, 2023, 06:49

I find ou Mozzzzquito more and more disgusting as time goes on. He knows darn well Nato have reneged on promises and commitments not to move Eastwards. US led Nato knew very well Russia would not accept Ukraine being used as a threat to Russia. But the US built up the Ukrainian army, placed missiles in Ukraine built dangerous gain of function labs in Ukraine (over 40 of them.)  To provoke Russia there was talk of Ukrainian joining the EU!

Then they started denying Russians in Ukraine their rights and even launched a genocide against them using the infamous Nazi Asov Battalion. 

They never listened to Putins protests year after war.

So to show the West he was serious Putin sent in a small expeditionary force if some 120, 000 men. Thst led to peace talks with Zelensky which were ended when Biden sent Boris Johnston to stop the talks. 

The Biden led Nato never wanted peace. 

I could go on to give the reasons the Globalists of the USA and EU wanted this war but have already outlined the reasons elsewhere. 

The illigitimate Biden Regime bears the prime responsibility for instigating this war and for its continuance that much is very obvious. 

May 26, 2023, 16:47

To flush the Ukrainian solders retreating in the forests like this:

May 26, 2023, 18:53

Sies/ voetsek

May 26, 2023, 19:48

"I find ou Mozzzzquito more and more disgusting as time goes on."


Baboon-ou, quite apart from the fact that Moffie is 100% correct on every single thing he's ever posted about the Russia/Ukraine conflict, don't you feel just a little bit stupid around about now?

Seriously, think about it. You've been sucking up to Moffie in the most embarrassingly fawning, servile and obsequious manner for what . . . about 20 years now? Two decades of shoving your dirty little snout up his arse whenever the opportunity arose on this and other message boards, calling him Dr Moz, squealing with glee every time he boasted about his achievements, clapping your little hands whenever he praised your hero Bozo, applauding anything he ever said about the Hapless Stompies . . . you were the Alpha-Gimp for a large part of the 20 years that you've been grovelling at your estwhile hero's feet. 20 years! Two decades of shameless arse-creeping!

But this is not the first time you've backed the wrong horse, is it Baboon-ou? The list of people you've plugged only to get huge amounts of egg all over your stupid face after your ignominious backtracking is growing longer by the minute. Michael Cohen, Rudy Giuliani, Elon Musk, Anthony Fauci, Bill Barr, Roger Waters, Mark Keohane, Kent Hovind, Nigel Farage . . . to name a few . . . and now Moffie. All heroes of yours until they said something that conflicted with your narrow, brainwashed and ignorant world view. That's a very long list of sudden turnarounds and epic humiliations.

So, again, are you feeling a little bit stupid around about now, Baboon-ou . . . or does your lack of self-awareness, your innate stupidity and your self-inflicted embarrassment prevent you from realising what a complete and utter dick you make of yourself on a regular basis?

You are a truly pathetic and pitiful human being.

May 26, 2023, 20:18

what a stupid reply.

Somebody who knows nothing.

Just a fly that bothers you on hot day.

A fly swotter is the answer but the trouble is it's not long enough.

May 27, 2023, 05:58

Rooinek - the total brainwashed unthinking idiot who fell totally for the Russian Collusion Hoax - preaching to others is very, very funny.   

May 27, 2023, 06:21

". . . but the trouble is it's not long enough."

That's what the Russian mail-order bride said on the first night of her honeymoon . . .

May 27, 2023, 10:36


You are the one to come up with a personal attack on somebody like the last one.   That is totally acceptable and the conduct of a slut.    

May 27, 2023, 13:13

My goodness me ou Rooitwit has surely got dementia. Yes of course I was friends with Mozzzzquito but didn't know he was a freaking Globalist. Nobody did. 

You then have a list of people I wrongly backed. You mistake approving of something they did with General approval halfwits. 

The only ones I approve of are Giuliani, Hovind and Farage. I qualify re Farage by saying he may not be tough enough.

A guy like Barr came in with a reputation of being a serious lawman he started well by saying g people had spied on the Trump campaign. As time went on he revealed himself to be a Rino and very early on I dumped him. 

That is the difference between a thinking person like me and a hapless dope like you. Your heroes go crashing and you still support them. Bwahahahahaha what a hapless mampara. 

May 27, 2023, 14:02

Ou Maaik, how is that a personal attack on anyone? Do we have someone on here who has Russian mail-order bride? If not, how is it a personal attack?

May 27, 2023, 16:23

Actually I have spent some time with one of the ‘ones’ you approve of HasBeen and I guarantee you, you wouldn’t like him. 

May 27, 2023, 17:39

May 27, 2023, 10:36


You are the one to come up with a personal attack on somebody like the last one.   That is totally acceptable and the conduct of a slut.    


It is totally acceptable to come up with a personal attack with the conduct of a slut?
Who? The Russian Bot or Rooinek?

May 27, 2023, 18:39

To be fair to ou Maaik, he is saying it's "totally acceptable".

May 27, 2023, 20:02

No, that's out of order, the Russian Bot's an evil bent C & a dronklap, but not a slut.

ouMaaik might be on the booze too.:ermm:

May 28, 2023, 10:23

Never drink anything and Rooinek ia a low down slut.  

May 28, 2023, 10:23

Never drink anything and Rooinek ia a low down slut.  

May 28, 2023, 13:13

I don't drink, Gamutt from Woodstock...low class shit.

May 28, 2023, 14:33

The USA has caused more bloodshed world wide than any other country on earth.

They are master shit stirrers and have made Billions out of their meddling in foreign countries affairs and whatever else they do in their so called "assistance" in countries.

Now they are destroying themselves.

What goes around, comes around.


May 28, 2023, 16:24

Mozzzz you like the war mongering Globalist Bushes so I doubt your ability to judge character. Being superficially charming doesn't cut it.

I feel very sorry for the many decent Americans stuck with an illigitimate President and Senate, corrupt security and military industrial complex hell bent on trying to destroy America-add in the CDC. FDA etc. Widespread pervasive corruption and break down of law and order. Etc etc etc.

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