Biden should stand down.......

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Jul 02, 2024, 07:03

in the interest of the country and the Democratic Party, visibly he's not good on the eye and it will cost him millions of votes. It makes for an easier choice in a two horse race with Trump as the outright favourite. Even the votes of the 'anyone but Trump.' If the Dems choose anyone but Harris they will win. 

Jul 02, 2024, 09:14

I think 70% of the US voters in the USA believe that as well.    But Biden was forced onto the US voters by the major financial  contributors to the Demcoratic Party and supported by the media they control.

The problem is him standing down will be decidesd by the spnsors funding the DNC who in 2020 election wanted Biden in the WH to ensure implementation of their polcie and even wrote ut policies and amndates Biden signed,    Biden's replacement will have to be decided on by the major donors to the DNC who would implement their polciicies,  .  So the donors - who have  absolute control fo the WH at present with a Zombie who can sign whatever they wanted and rule by mandates they authored will replace him.

The ultra-rich donors have said nothing yet - but one of their major mouthpieces - the New York Times - have indicated that Biden should go.   Fact is the media in the USA pretended there is nothing wrong resulting from the aging dementia sufferer Biden and as such misleaded people about him being not suitable to serve as President.   So the DNC can be threatened by the donors to support their new nominee and that will deccide Biden's fate.  

It is not clear who the alternative would be - all potential replacements like Harris, Newsonm and Ms Whitmer (known also as Madame Hitler) are even more umpopular than Biden.   So the decision could be to find another dummy the donors can cotrol.   It will only become clearer over the next six weeks.or so.

Whatever happened - especially with repalcing Biden would be totally uncosntitutional and will sh wo again the D emcoracy countt frr nothing insofar as the Demcoratic Party is concerned.    The voters are supposed to decide on the Party nominee and they will be as per normal ignored by the actual omtrollers of the Regime.               

Jul 02, 2024, 10:29

DumbMike, have you ever considered that tax is much lower for the richest 5% of people under a conservative government?  Some of the richest pay NO tax - corporate or income because of garbage laws such as capital gains tax

The left-wing is known to have more tax - especially taxing the richest a "fairer" share. 
Everyone should be paying the same % of earnings -regardless of how rich someone is. 

Like many religious people, you are brainwashed into supporting the right wing- even when it is not in your financial interests. 

Billionaires more often support right-wing governments, but if they are voting against Trump it is because they see that Trump will destroy future potential. So more tax on high earnings, is better than low tax on lower earnings.

Jul 02, 2024, 11:53

BS again SB 

There is always a propaganda item for the Democrats - they used it in 2020 as well.   So Biden who also spread the BS  as an excellent propaganda  issue did zero in the near to four years he was dummy President and in fact provided more more gaps to let the rich pay less.   

That is why the leftist parties in Europe and in the Americas are in deep shit.at present.

Trump knew what he wanted from the ultra-rich and rich - he gave them  a tax rebate on condition that they invest their tax savings in development progjects that would result in increased employment and got the working  class more money in their pockets,   Biden sabotaged that requirements of Trump and fuicked up everyt hing in his normal style or better put he strcitly followed instructions given to him by the main donors of the DP.

The new expected Laboutr Government will advertise increased taxes by the rich and if they actually do it will never happen in reality.    

So that will be the case be again  in future.   If you think the riich control Trump - you got it totally wrong - the ultra-rich control the DP and Musk found that out and rebelled against it.     That is why he bougt out Twitter because the other media outlets were all BSting the people.       through propaganda spreadding.    

So forget abiut your falling  back on religion - it h as nothing to do in what I beleivve in.   I studied not only the BS  spreading  by th e eelftist media that represens your bibl  and is everything you write on site - I studied issues widely and use amny sources to find out what is really th e situiation before I rie anything on site.  

The biden idiot decided to adouble the staf of the IRS and amrmed tem as well - in other words he was creati g a private army to support hsi regime.   Theyww ill not threaten the rich - they will threaten the middle class.

In the 2022 mid-year election the biggest donor to the DP was George Soros followed by F TX who got massive investments alsof rom te Ukraine Government and that money vanished into thin air - bar the donations declared by the Election Committee.   So the DP is under the sole control of about 3 of the 4 richest people in the world.

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Jul 02, 2024, 12:39

"If the Dems choose anyone but Harris they will win. "

They can't choose anyone else...Biden/Harris were elected in the primaries...She must also stand down for there to be an open DNC...tricky stuff..

Jul 02, 2024, 16:48

Not according to teh opion polls - al their realc andidates are ultra -leftists and h e people are sick and tired of the suffering theye ndured under Biden and h is ultra left controllers     There are two trying to get the nomination - but they knew they had no ch ance in gettin g anywhere since their performance records are total BS 

The one candidate ou may think of is Newsom the Governor of California - who has turned California into a tird world ccountry bhaving only the rich and the poor as residents.   All the resy h afv]e fled from California as a result of his misrule.   Also he has links to China and iwet to get isntructions from President Xi a few moths ago.   The man has the gift of the gab - but is anytime as corrupt as Biden is.   When it forced people during Covid he and his pals were enjying themselves in posh restaurants.

The second Choice  could be Governor Whitmer - whose  conduct during Covid got the nale Mrs Hitler,   She enforced people to not lave their hmes whiel she and her husband was partying away in Miami,   She was also invovled in a plot of the F BI to incite people to kidnap her and the FBI provided te guns and transpot for the  "kidnap'.    On th way to kidnap her th e FBI arrested the people.   That ws fine untikl the story as to what really happned came up  in court and the Judge through out the charges ag ainst the FBI recruits.   

Moral of the story - never trust the Democrats.  Biden was also invovled in the "kidnap story"  because he wanted to justify his tstatement that all opponents are  "Wh ite Domestic Terrorists".     

S o th os two are dead meat when it becomes to try and save the Democrats in November.   ,      .   

Jul 02, 2024, 16:49

Not according to teh opion polls - al their realc andidates are ultra -leftists and h e people are sick and tired of the suffering theye ndured under Biden and h is ultra left controllers     There are two trying to get the nomination - but they knew they had no ch ance in gettin g anywhere since their performance records are total BS 

The one candidate ou may think of is Newsom the Governor of California - who has turned California into a tird world ccountry bhaving only the rich and the poor as residents.   All the resy h afv]e fled from California as a result of his misrule.   Also he has links to China and iwet to get isntructions from President Xi a few moths ago.   The man has the gift of the gab - but is anytime as corrupt as Biden is.   When it forced people during Covid he and his pals were enjying themselves in posh restaurants.

The second Choice  could be Governor Whitmer - whose  conduct during Covid got the nale Mrs Hitler,   She enforced people to not lave their hmes whiel she and her husband was partying away in Miami,   She was also invovled in a plot of the F BI to incite people to kidnap her and the FBI provided te guns and transpot for the  "kidnap'.    On th way to kidnap her th e FBI arrested the people.   That ws fine untikl the story as to what really happned came up  in court and the Judge through out the charges ag ainst the FBI recruits.   

Moral of the story - never trust the Democrats.  Biden was also invovled in the "kidnap story"  because he wanted to justify his tstatement that all opponents are  "Wh ite Domestic Terrorists".     

S o th os two are dead meat when it becomes to try and save the Democrats in November.   ,      .   

Jul 02, 2024, 17:52

Study this table Shark:

ble 1. Summary of Federal Income Tax Data, Tax Year 2020
Top 1%Top 5%Top 10%Top 25%Top 50%Bottom 50%All Taxpayers
Number of Returns1,574,9427,874,71215,749,42439,373,56178,747,12178,747,121157,494,242
Average Tax Rate26.0%22.4%20.3%17.1%14.8%3.1%13.6%
Average Income Taxes Paid$458,894$136,091$79,897$38,396$21,187$504$10,845
Adjusted Gross Income ($ millions)$2,780,754$4,775,995$6,198,022$8,862,578$11,257,092$1,276,009$12,533,102
Share of Total Adjusted Gross Income22.2%38.1%49.5%70.7%89.8%10.2%100.0%
Income Taxes Paid ($ millions)$722,732$1,071,681$1,258,335$1,511,786$1,668,410$39,671$1,708,081
Share of Total Income Taxes Paid42.3%62.7%73.7%88.5%97.7%2.3%100.0%
Income Split Point$548,336$220,521$152,321$85,853$42,184$42,184
Source: IRS, Statistics of Income, ”Individual Income Rates and Tax Shares.”


Jul 02, 2024, 17:55

The bottom 50% pay 2.3% of Federal Income Taxes…..too much for you? The fact is the bottom 50% pay a far higher share of taxes in Europe because of VAT and other sales related taxes. 

Jul 02, 2024, 19:02

VAT is a killer. If any political party said they’d scrap it, I think it might impact them quite favourably ! 

Jul 02, 2024, 21:35

@Mozart,

If 3% of the population owns over 90% of the wealth, then I would expect 90% of the tax to come from them. I actually don't know the numbers for sure, as various sources seem to give different numbers (e.g. 3% own 60% of wealth etc, etc)

However the problem is worsening
https://www.pewresearch.org/social-trends/2020/01/09/trends-in-income-and-wealth-inequality/

I have looked at Chat GPT to transform this table, but Chat is not that great with numbers.

Yes, a small percentage of the population in the United States does indeed hold a disproportionately large share of the nation's total wealth. While the specific percentages can vary slightly depending on the source and the year of the data, it is broadly accurate that around the top 1% to 3% of the population holds a significant portion of the wealth, often cited as upwards of 85-90%.

This concentration of wealth among the wealthiest individuals and families has been a persistent and growing issue, highlighted by various economic studies and reports. The disparity in wealth distribution has implications for economic policy, social equity, and the overall health of the economy.

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What I would rather see is the earnings by percentages, then see what % of this is given to the taxman. 

The total number of returns sounds like a number that could be manipulated.

Income PercentileIncome Split Point (AGI)Number of ReturnsAGI ($ billions)Income Tax Paid ($ billions)Average Tax Rate (%)% of Total Tax Collected
% of Total Earnings
Top 1%$515,3711,412,710$2,214$615.0027.838.50%21.00%
Top 5%$208,0537,063,630$4,318$897.0020.856.60%41.00%
Top 10%$145,13514,125,280$5,980$1,058.3017.766.00%56.00%
Top 25%$83,68235,313,200$8,822$1,343.8015.283.10%83.00%
Top 50%$41,74070,626,400$10,643$1,617.0015.2100.00%100.00%
  • The "Income Split Point" is the minimum AGI required for tax returns to fall into each percentile.
  • "Number of Returns" refers to the total number of individual income tax returns filed within each percentile.
  • "AGI ($ billions)" represents the total adjusted gross income for each income group.
  • "Income Tax Paid ($ billions)" is the total amount of federal income taxes paid by each income group.
  • "Average Tax Rate (%)" is the percentage of AGI that each group paid in federal income taxes.
  • "% of Total Tax Collected" shows the percentage of the total federal income taxes that each income group contributed.
  • "% of Total Earnings" represents the percentage of total AGI accounted for by each income group.

This table provides a comprehensive view of the distribution of income and taxes among different income groups.

Jul 02, 2024, 22:44

Jul 02, 2024, 23:39

That last table suggests 100% of taxes and 100% of income comes from the top 50% of earners….clearly wrong. What’s the source?

As for the wealthy getting wealthier. Yes it was ever thus. But surely the wealth gain from the emergence of AI which has been driving the market has the least to do with the ‘common man’ of any wealth creation in history….but with potentially enormous benefits in terms of helping to equalize the effective IQ distribution.

Jul 03, 2024, 08:16

I'm still perplexed as to how Biden's condition in this debate has shocked so many people. He's been like that for the last 4 years. The media has been actively making excuses for him for the last 4 years. How and why has the delusion now suddenly and abruptly come to an end?

Jul 03, 2024, 08:48

The remarkable thing about ou sharkTWITS  is that he still doesn't realize that the Globalist elites ruling America are the ones who have done so much economic damage to the working and middle class. 

Under Trump wages were up and unemployment was down by record levels. His base is the working and middle class.

Yet this clown still thinks Trump is the problem as does that nutjob blobbrain.

He also doesn't realize capital is mobile. Over tax the rich and  capital leaves by diverse ways nobody can ever stop it and so do skills simply up and leave. 

Poor sharktwitt was born with no common sense and a very gullible nature. 

Jul 03, 2024, 09:07

Calm down Brian, your cage is unlocked grab a few piesangs on your way out.

Jul 08, 2024, 14:12

"I'm still perplexed as to how Biden's condition in this debate has shocked so many people. He's been like that for the last 4 years. The media has been actively making excuses for him for the last 4 years. How and why has the delusion now suddenly and abruptly come to an end?"

Yep, and some of us have been mentioning it on here for ages already, and some didn't want to believe it..... but boy did this blow up quick.

Jul 13, 2024, 05:41

Trump was the only U.S. president without prior military or government experience & promoted conspiracy theories and made many false and misleading statements during his campaigns and presidency, to a degree unprecedented in American politics.

He's more than a bad joke  .................. a catastrophe.

Jul 13, 2024, 10:31

Dense Denise wakes up to the fact Biden should drop out of the race. 

You get slow witted then you get dense and of course Blobbrain who is as clueless as you could find anywhere. Hahahahahaha. 

I see poor sharktwit getting schooled again. Man this dumbass gets schooled every day, never learns a thing, then comes back to post more utter drivel. 

The three buffoons, Sharktwit, Blobbrain and the very sense Denise. 

Jul 13, 2024, 10:59

Of course Krusty should drop out. He shouldn't have been there in the first place. Who disputes this? But what are the alternatives? Another 4 years of Bozo? Will be highly entertaining but not worth all the laughs . . . or Kamala Harris?

Good grief. If those are the three contenders then the USA has a lot to answer for.

It beggars belief that those 3 deeply flawed, hopelessly incompetent and egotistical people are the realistic choices.


Jul 13, 2024, 11:28

Rooinek be so good and name altfernastive candidates for the two parties.


Jul 13, 2024, 18:30

Trump was one of America's greatest Presidents. 

This profoundly idiotic Rooitwit is a slave to Globalist media propaganda.

Now the hapless dope says of course Biden should stand down. 

But this dope has come so late to the party. Why is that. Because the jackass has only now realised how bad Biden is. Why the hopelessly  late realization? Again because he is a slave to Globalist propaganda. He always has been. He parrots their narratives all the time.

Who will forget how Rooitwit kept coming to the board with lies and nonsense about the Russia Hoax. Year after year. Wahahahahahahahaha

Time has left poor Rooitwit's cred in ruins. :D

 
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