Bolsonaro of Brazil joins Trump as One Term Failure

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Nov 01, 2022, 15:38

One term wonder

For Mr Bolsonaro, it is a humiliating defeat at the hands of a man he has routinely mocked as a criminal. 

The far right former army captain has often been compared to ex US President Donald Trump and has similarly questioned whether the election process is rigged against him. 

2HJC9PP Brazil's President Jair Bolsonaro reacts during ceremony at the Planalto Palace in Brasilia, Brazil January 28, 2022. REUTERS/Adriano Machado

His handling of the pandemic is widely viewed as similarly disastrous; the New York Times reports that at least 687,962 people have died with COVID-19 - equivalent to one in every 307 Brazilians. 

It is one of the highest death tolls in the world and a report by the Brazilian Senate said Mr Bolsonaro should be charged for murder for the “stratospheric” levels of carnage he had presided over. Most damning of all, the report concluded, was the Government’s “deliberate and conscious” decision to delay the purchase of life saving vaccines. 

Mr Bolsonaro has yet to concede the race but will remain President until Lula’s inauguration on 1st January. 

Nov 01, 2022, 16:19

Pleased to see that you got your daily "Hard-on" of Trump once more.

Perhaps it's time to order that "Gadget" from Clicks or if you already have it change the batteries.

Wanker.


Nov 01, 2022, 17:09

A bad time for present Governments - so the result was extremely close and SB is exultant about it - but the new Government will ally itself with China  and not with the piss poor President in Washington.    Dangerous times fore the whole of South America - the Chinese are slowly infiltrating the countries and will soon have enough allies to ensure a return to Chinese-type of dictatorship,    

We will see on Wednesday next week how the Democratic Socialists Party - the heroes of SB - and the disaster President is doing in the USA.    He is not campaigning - no candidates bar the idiots of his caliber  - wants anything to do with him.    The Democratic Party candidates promise the voters they will not support further idiocy in future - but in view of their behavior thus far very few people believe them.        

Nov 02, 2022, 00:01

Biden is the failure….the US and world were in much better shape at the end of Trump’s term. It’s not even debatable.

Nov 02, 2022, 00:17

The vote said otherwise... Biden is not great, but he is the will of the people. 

Nov 02, 2022, 01:09

Biden is a poor President but is still miles better than Trump, but then again so would a plank of wood. It's not even debatable.

As a well known political commentator in my country said about Trump's America.

"The world has loved, hated and envied the US. Now, for the first time, we pity it"

Good riddance to the mini Trump clone in Brazil.

Nov 02, 2022, 02:03

Based on any measurable statistic of consequence Biden is not better….that’s just an emotional rejection of a personality you don’t like Anger, the intolerance of the Left.

And I agree the people chose, but the people are informed by the media. And the media refused to retract the Russian lie. 

We have already had a massive inflationary burst which has made life for many much harder. It’s likely that will be followed by a recession. Crime and foreign affairs are much worse. Biden has made America look like a spent force. There is a huge vacuum of leadership.

Nov 02, 2022, 08:39

Mozart

Something funny - I came across a name of a racehorse in England yesterday - namely Dr Mozart and put R20 on it to win just because of the name.  It came second.so I just laugh and bet on tennis players - 5 of them - and won R207.   The five players I think would win was Rublev, Hurkacz, Draper, Djokovic and Rune - so easy meat though Rune struggled against Wawrinka.   I took 6 players to win today - - they are Draper, Musetti, Tsitsipas, Medvedev, Auger Aliassime and Alcaraz - not as storg as my picks were yesterday..   

 Now back to SB and Stav.     They believe all the media lies and quote them on site all the time.   The latest joke was the Whitmer conspircary of the FBI to frame some people to abduct that mini-Hitler in Michigan - all in line with the Domestic Terrorist doctrine of the Democrats and Biden.  It really is embarrassing.to see how both SB especially and Stav often enough make utter fools of themselves.    When they quote their resources you can bet on it is fake news.       

I am pretty confident that the Republicans will take control of the House and the Senate next week.    In opinion polls when some pollsters give a race as tied or the Democrats with a majority of  less than 5% the Democrats will lose like happened in Virginia last year.    I read an explanation from Politico recently in which the problem is dealt with.    In general Republicans refuse to participate in political polls by especially certain institutions and the pollsters then rate them as "undecided".      In any event there is a build-in formula for identification of poll participants - with most polls having a majority of registered Democrats guaranteed - sometimes as many as 200 participants from a 1000 participants being in that category.   The way the polls are going  even registered Democrats are dissatisfied with the Biden Administration with a rate of 72% of the poll participants saying the country is on the wrong track at present.   That is indicative of  how even a minority of Democrats think the country is badly Administered at present.   The 28% saying otherwise are made up of arch liberals and leftists - as well as the supporters of the Sander's faction of the Party - the Democratic Socialists within the Democratic Party,   If the Democrats fail in the election next week - the moderate voters will desert the Party in droves as the remainder of the Democrats in the House and Senate will be hard leftist supporters,  

What will be interesting is the way the Hispanics vote next week,   In 2016 67% of the Hispanic vote went to  Clinton - in 2020 Biden's support was down to 57% and the polls indicates this time around the Hispanic support is down to 42%.   If that happens there are a number of House Districts  with 80% plus Hispanic voters that used to be solid Democrat and in the media is now rated as Leaning Democrat or toss-ups that would be indicative of the trend of voting,   If they go Republican this time around the Democratic Party will lose many seats - especially those bordering Mexico in Texas. and Rubio could win in Florida with a majority of near to er a million votes - the media now says that in his case the state is leaning to Republican or toss-ups.

De Santis will win easily in Florida - hope he is the Republican Party presidential candidate in 2024 - but the leftist media hate him as much as they hate Trump - so expect shenanigans and lies to be spread by SB and Stav as well.                                                      

       

Nov 02, 2022, 09:09

"Biden is a poor President but is still miles better than Trump, but then again so would a plank of wood. It's not even debatable."


Spot on Stav. 

Can you begin to imagine the situation we'd be in today if Bozo was still president? It would be the USA, Russia and North Korea vs the rest of the world.

Bozo had been sucking up to Putin from the very beginning of his term and who could forget his reaction to Putin invading Ukraine?

"I said 'This is genius'. Putin declares a big portion of Ukraine of the Ukraine (sic). Putin declares it as independent. Oh, that's wonderful. So Putin is now saying it's independent, a large section of the Ukraine. I said, 'How smart is that?' And he's going to go in and be a peacekeeper."

The Trumpanzees will probably try to spin what Bozo actually said into something less stupid and short-sighted - just as they did when the blundering fool declared Covid 19 to be a hoax or told people to inject themselves with bleach - but they can try to sanitize and spin what he said until the cows come home, doesn't change what Bozo said or how he "thinks".

Krusty is an incompetent fool in his own right but at least he's not such a narcissist and a self-important imbecile that he thinks he knows better than his generals, his economists or his doctors. The world is better off with Biden . . . and Brazil is much better off with anyone other than the mini-Trump Bolsonaro who - like his idol Bozo - is prepared to put his own interests ahead of that of the entire nation and squeal about rigged elections without providing any proof.

Good riddance.

Nov 02, 2022, 10:46

Rooinek 

Is there a bigger fool around in the world than you?  Your story linking Trump to Putin was colluding in the 2016 election still holds.   In a  posting  a few months ago you claimed you still believe it was the case - even after it became clear that the whole story was based on lies concocted by Clinton and the Obama Administration.

So what did Trump do in relationship with Russia - 

*   he banned the completion of the Baltic Sea pipeline to Germany;

*   he tore up the nuclear arms agreement with Russia because Russia was breaching the treaty;

*   he forced NATO members to pay their contractual obligations to NATO making him unpopular in Europe - but allowing for NATO to modernize equipment and improve their army strength - how could that possibly favor Russia?

Putin tried no antics when Trump was in charge - the same cannot be said with Biden around.  Putin despises Biden as a corrupt weakling puppet-President.   What Trump said is that Putin was brilliant in how he manage to deal with and describe Biden.   Maybe Trump was wrong - he did not realize how the braindead -caused by propaganda - idiots like you would react to it.

We will see next week how the voters react to having a dementia-suffering Puppet as President.  But in your book he was a better President than Trump?    Is anybody in the USA now better off than they were in 2020 and the answer is NO - except for the criminals in Government, the ultra-rich getting richer and the criminals getting free help from the Democrats.                

                       

Nov 02, 2022, 14:24

Based on any measurable statistic of consequence Biden is not better

Tell that to women in America who are now have greater difficulty accessing abortion services.

….that’s just an emotional rejection of a personality you don’t like Anger, the intolerance of the Left.

That's such a cop out. Just dismiss the other side as emotional and intolerant so you don't have to consider their viewpoints.

@Mike

*   he banned the completion of the Baltic Sea pipeline to Germany;

No he didn't. He complained and the Germans ignored him and completed the pipeline anyway,

*   he tore up the nuclear arms agreement with Russia because Russia was breaching the treaty;

This is true.

*   he forced NATO members to pay their contractual obligations to NATO making him unpopular in Europe - but allowing for NATO to modernize equipment and improve their army strength - how could that possibly favor Russia?

No he didn't. Europe just re-confirmed they would honor previous spending commitments they had previously made. He was unpopular in Europe for many reasons.

Nov 02, 2022, 14:58

Stav, you clearly haven't been watching Tucker Carlson enough . . . stop making sense!

Nov 02, 2022, 15:06

Wait, Biden is a president? A guy who says during a press conference "Oh I'm sorry, I took control, I shouldn't do that. I'm not allowed to do that" is not a president, not even a leader. Just a stooge.

Nov 02, 2022, 15:41

 Stav

The abortion issue is not anything like the Democrats  make it out to be.   Under the previous situation - the whole program as to abortion was controlled by bureaucratic regulations.   There was plenty wrong with the system - in the Supreme Court verdict there were compelling evidence of bribery and corruption involved.    What the Supreme Court ruled on was to get the necessary legislation governing abortion to be legally determined by the legislature elected by the people instead of bureaucrats  deciding without legislative cover on the issue of abortions.   Sounds quite like the system is brought under proper legislative control.   

You know what the average bribe paid by the Government to get an abortion was $750 - a lt of money in the case of the extreme poor.   The fact is there was no population growth in the Black community in the USA since the 1970's and the rea reason for that was abortions.  Abortion clinics became s source earning billions from Government and that is where the corruption became endemic.  

The pipeline story you come up was an outright lie - the construction of the pipeline stopped for months and only continued after Merkel complained  to Biden about it and he unbanned the sanction of Trump.   

The other story about NATO is a distortion as well.    Trump threatened the NATO members that he will withdraw some soldiers from Europe to return by the USA to the 3% commitment due by the US Government.    Your claim that NATO members out of the blue decided on their own to honor the 3% agreement is just about living on cloud 9 suggestion.   Trump clearly caused them to change their attitudes after years of extra reliance on the USA and under-contribution  to NATO.

The media hated Trump and the stories they came up was real hate-speech often based on lies concocted by the Democratic Party in the USA - just try the Russian Hoax story about the 2016 election as starters.    The problem with Trump was he was a businessman more than he was a politician.                           

Nov 02, 2022, 15:53

Actually the Supreme Court made the decision on abortion and it was made during the time of Biden’s presidency. But do  I gather you feel abortion is a right?

Nov 02, 2022, 16:31

Just for you wankers who even consider "Farting" Talibiden as a leader actually is sad but funny.

From day one in his political career he has been corrupt and a story teller.

He is a clown.

Do you clowns recall the way he tried to railroad the first American Black Supreme court judge nomination?

He has overtaken "Clueless Carter" as the worst person to ever hold the President position and has raised the USA debt level to an unbelievable level.

Made the USA dependant on foreign oil and drained the oil reserve to its lowest level ever.

Made a mockery of the military, foreign relations, national security, law and order and is an joke at best.

No wonder he appeals to you clowns. Walks around letting off gas everywhere.

By the way he also a proud leader who supports full term abortions.

That is murder.


Sharktwat he got more votes that any other person to ever run for president, . most dead votes ever and more votes from folks reported to be over 120 mears old.

Tes, the dead really supported him....big time.




Nov 02, 2022, 16:34

Wehe . . . fArt still believs the election was rigged!

LMAO!

Nov 02, 2022, 16:52

Actually the Supreme Court was stacked with conservative Christians under Trumps watch.

He did this to appease the radical Christian right to keep the morons happy.

Biden has no power to replace these sitting judges and have a seat for life ( as I understand it, happy for you to correct me Moz if I have misunderstood any of the facts as American politics and judicial system I am far from an expert)

Nov 02, 2022, 17:49

Actually the Supreme Court made the decision on abortion and it was made during the time of Biden’s presidency. But do  I gather you feel abortion is a right?

As Crusadersfan said, that's a consequence of Trumps actions during his Presidency. He picked those judges who had previously expressed a strong desire to overturn Roe Vs Wade and who then went on to lie about the desire that during the nomination process.

Yeah I support the right to abortion. Maybe not in late term pregnancy unless going through with childbirth puts the mothers life at risk.

Nov 02, 2022, 18:14

I am stuck in the middle, rape victims the very young or non viable babies I agree with.

Mistakes happen and who am I to tell someone else what to do with their body.

I would much prefer these babies to be born but sometimes what life are these unwanted kids going to live.

The miserable life these unwanted kids live is a long and sorry tale of man's inhumanity 

If it was my kid I would fight tooth and nail even if I had to raise it on my own (Why I always wear a rubber)

Late terminations I am strongly against unless exceptional circumstances (children or a massive risk to the mother)

Nov 02, 2022, 18:19

Anyone that forces a child to have a child because of some silly belief can go get f@#ked as a heartless c%#t

Nov 02, 2022, 21:22

Ja Sader, but what about promiscuous mothers behaving irresponsible and then being allowed to have an abortion hours...even minutes before birth...bothe sides to the extreme are wrong...horrible things happened and are happening...the line should be drawn much sooner...it doesn't have to be a choice between two extremes. 


And BTW...abortions weren't banned, the authority was given back to the individual states to govern...huge difference deliberately being misrepresented...it should be difficult to kill a baby legally...it was horrendously easy for much too long!

Nov 02, 2022, 21:34

 Careful what you wish for...

Nov 03, 2022, 04:52

One of the staggering things to me is the belief  that the moral side is  the right  to kill an unprotected life. In the meantime the same people would demonstrate in the streets to do away with the death sentence. 

Trump is no different to any other Republican President….they all nominate pro life judges. Democrats nominate pro choice judges. These nominees still have to pass the Senate. And then they still have to produce cogent legal arguments. 

Roe vs Wade has always been vulnerable. And now as Draad says it’s up to the States….you can live where your beliefs are followed.

But the moral crusade against this is strident. Sure it’s the woman’s body, but it’s the child’s life. I wonder how many of these right to choose people can actually conceptualize what’s happening. Certainly children and raped women should be spared. And early term terminations  can be reluctantly accepted.

But this is an ugly, brutal act perpetrated on the most vulnerable. There is nothing moral about it.


Nov 03, 2022, 07:00

Late term abortions for anything other than serious medical necessity is pure EVIL...the mere fact that it's stil debated is staggering...Why should it always be a choice between two extremes?

Nov 03, 2022, 07:26

This is weird - the lefties on site claimed that the stacking of the Supreme Court lead to a decision that insist that abortion should be controlled through legislation passed by the elected people representing the voters and not by bureaucratic regulation.   The Supreme Court did not ban abortion - it just removed the situation where unelected bureaucrats  control a legal issue.   This was strictly in line with the US constitution - but the lefties are too stupid to understand they are lied to by the media and the Democratic Party on the issue    By the way the regulation system introduced by the bureaucrats promoted corruption that led to the actual Supreme Court decision and was in fact dealt with in the Judgement.   

What the site idiots do not realize is the racial issue attached to abortion.   Since the 1970's there has been no population growth in the Black community in the USA because pregnant people were paid Government grants to go for abortions - it has nothing to do with "their bodies" and everything to do with the money they can earn through abortions.   The private sector is allowed to force employees to undergo abortions and in return they pay $4 000 per case to women in their employ to take abortions.    Is this correct in your books one can ask the site idiots?       

   

Nov 03, 2022, 07:43

...and Planned Parenthood is making a killing in trading fetal tissue...all in the name of medical research! Satan is real!

Nov 03, 2022, 11:20

Draad, you like to put yourself on a moral pedestal by criticizing others - which makes you feel like the good guy. God is on your side, when you call others the devil. You become a Jesus type of character by telling the world what is right and what is wrong. You are divinely inspired, more than what you are because you speak the word of God... Yawn.
A righteous cause of self-serving delusion.

You have stated yourself that you believe abortion is acceptable, as long as it is before a certain time frame (e.g. 4 weeks). 

Abortion is an abortion regardless of at what stage it happens. Sure, the closer to birth is worse because it is a more developed form of life- but abortion is abortion.
Somehow you have the moral high ground to dictate the exact number of days that abortion is morally acceptable just by being sanctimonious. Don't try to make your opinions fact, by passing off your opinion as the word of God. That is just being a religious grifter. 

The morning-after pill could be classified as an abortion because it happens after the start of the process of life forming. What is better a young teenage girl getting pregnant and being forced to leave school and have her life turned upside down, or taking the morning-after pill.
Criticizing women as promiscuous and therefore possessed by the devil is nonsense. 

Unplanned pregnancy creates an Africa-like situation, where the child either has one parent or no parent, or their parent's mother is still a child themselves. 

The ideal situation is that all children are born into the world with 2 parents that are married. 

However, that is not happening, especially amongst the poorest in society. 
Africa and Muslim countries are getting far too overpopulated and turning into a post-apocalyptic 10th world that is doomed. It will be hard for them to turn the corner as their population growth far exceeds GDP. This situation will also lead to more life species on earth going extinct.


Nov 03, 2022, 12:29

So you're for late term abortion then...gotcha.

Nov 03, 2022, 13:18

Can you quote where I said that? No, all you can do is misconstrue comments to demonize any debate on the matter (And in the process make yourself the good guy).

So, you are for early-term abortion then...gotcha.
You even know the exact cut-off date when it is morally acceptable. Double gotcha.

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Nov 03, 2022, 19:31

SB

`I am not against abortion - but everything the Democrats touch always turns to shit.   I am very happy that you believe bureaucrats should lay down legislation governing things like abortion and that the people has no right to/ expect otherwise.   You claim that you are supporting democracy - that in the case any media tells you to believe in dictatorship practices through Government by bureaucrats and not by legally elected representatives - is normal to dictatorial States and not democracies.

Next time you shout about undermining if democracy I am going to remind you of the fact that you support police states methods and not democracy.   Nobody is totally opposed to abortions.  What the judges thought as wrong was the grabbing of power by bureaucrats - nothing else.        

Nov 03, 2022, 22:09

Ja ja Snarkhole... you keep telling yourself that...there is no right or wrong ...do what though wilt...

 
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