Georgia Republican Brad Raffensperger says Republican Party asked him to throw out ballots to help Trump win

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Nov 18, 2020, 01:36

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/us-election-georgia-legal-ballots-trump-b1724125.html

Sen. Lindsey Graham has been one of the most prominent. At the start of this week, Sen. Lindsey Graham said that if mail-in votes are counted the Republican Party will never win an election again.

This could be the end of the Southern states suppressing voters. More voters mean more Democratic voters. Throw in the under 30's who are overwhelmingly Democratic anyway, and the Republicans are toast.

This is why they are supporting Trump. He is their last throw of the dice. A dying ideology. 
The Republicans will need to reinvent themselves, or the Democrats will split into 2 parties with the new left and new right. 

Nov 18, 2020, 02:00

Nope the country has always been in the balance and it was almost 50/50 in the last election.

Nov 18, 2020, 02:53


Trump claims mail-in voting will 'LEAD TO THE END' for ...

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29 May 2020 — In his tweet, Trump exclaimed that voting by mail would contribute to the demise of the Republican Party and become a boon for Democrats, ...
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20 Aug 2020 — The president has been antagonistic towards mail-in voting for ... IT WILL ALSO LEAD TO THE END OF OUR GREAT REPUBLICAN PARTY.
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Lindsey Graham says the Republicans will never win another

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10 Nov 2020 — Lindsey Graham says the Republicans will never win another presidential election if they don't 'do something' about mail-in voting.
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Nov 18, 2020, 16:55

Trump has also "floated" the idea that instead of using state votes, the state governor can instead be a single elector to represent the state. 


However, Georgia is committed to a Democratic and fair election.

Trump has so many enemies. When he gets his fat arse out of the president's office, everyone is going to be coming after him. 

Just what country would want Trump? His companies record a loss each year to avoid tax, so he is just a parasite to the taxpayer. 

Nov 18, 2020, 18:45

What I have realised about people that call other people fat...is they're usually fat arses themselves.

Nov 18, 2020, 18:52

"What you have realised"...Since when is your insignificant existence representative of reality, or to mainstream thought, or anything for that matter? 

Although as a ButtPlug, perhaps you have more insight into this topic than most... The alternative reality...

Nov 18, 2020, 20:00

....and sometimes an arsehole is just a snarkhole and violence is not the answer,  but it can be fun sometimes.

Nov 18, 2020, 22:36

No doubt mail-in voting was huge in this election. Trump easily won the votes cast on Election Day. The failure of the Republicans to mount an aggressive mail-in campaign tilted the election,

Nov 19, 2020, 00:23

"Since when is your insignificant existence representative of reality,...."

See the source image

Nov 19, 2020, 01:21

Surely the federal government asking state governments to not count mail-in ballots, is an attempt to cheat in an election. 


Apparently, the Georgian person said that Trump may have actually got more votes if he promoted different ways of voting. His tactics backfired and he suppressed his own base. 

Until the Southern States allow multiple ways of voting, Democratic votes will always be suppressed. Trump has brought so much attention from all over the world to see his demise, that everyone has learnt the dirty little secret of the US Southern States not being Democratically elected at State, or the national electorate. 

The Democratic states appear to give as many options as possible, which is in itself Democratic in process. It is likely the Southern States will be pushed this way too. 

Nov 19, 2020, 05:17

Yes the strategy backfired. The Republicans tried to fight for America’s traditional voting system. They should have matched the Dems in sending out mail-in ballots. Take Pennsylvania:

‘That means that 81 percent of state voters who were sent those ballots have returned them. To break it down, more than 1.6 million of those ballots were from registered Democrats, 586,000 were from Republicans, and 278,000 were from independents or third-party voters.’

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Dems returned 84% of their ballots... so they got 1.9 million ballots. Republicans returned 74% of their ballots....so they got 791000 ballots.

A total difference of more than 1.1 million ballots.....and the difference in the Pennsylvania vote? About 80000. 

Given about 70% of eligible voters actually voted in Pennsylvania....a crude measure would suggest sending out these mail in ballots raised the vote by 150000. But assuming many mail in voters didn’t want to vote in person, it’s almost certainly more,

So it’s  hard to imagine Trump losing the state if Republicans had set aside their scruples and just matched what the Dems did.

This was not a level playing field.

 
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