Haha…if they join the US the cruise ships will follow. They’d all be millionaires, we’d make Greenland great again.
Haha…if they join the US the cruise ships will follow. They’d all be millionaires, we’d make Greenland great again.
It's a no-brainer...Imagine being given the opportunity to be part of America...the advantages to be part of the largest economy in the world...damn...
The people of Greenland don't seem interested. Not everyone wants to become a big shopping mall or a mining hub. Not sure if that is on the cards or whether this really is just about security, but once the big money start rolling shit tends to go south pretty quickly.
We'll it's their choice, but choices have consequences...I don’t think they are proud Danish subjects either...
Your kidding right Dradd, OK compared to SA it probably does look like heaven but compared to most 1st world countries becoming part of America is a fuckin nightmare.
Hell I even know am American that is never going back and he lives in China.
The American Consumers are growing in confidence.... (Who would want to be that?)
Greenland 1st world country? In my mind it's a Danish colony...I know where it is and the population...that's about it...
Wonder if they'll adopt USA gun laws.
Who needs a Time Machine when NZ is available…1980 is instantly available.
A new idea….the money we take away from the Woke colleges can easily pay for Greenland. Elon needs his wealth for his next great idea to make the future great again.
MGGA? Needs some vowels.
MGreGA.
Connor MGreGA.
Who was at the White House just the other day.
I have uncovered a conspiracy.
Once MAGA is accomplished, MEGA……make everything great again. Hell Trump could even make NZ interesting and solve the fly problem in Australia.
it’s obvious where this is all heading … ..total globalism…..Trump as world jefe.
Don't let your ignorance show there Dradd, JD Vance got the cold shoulder and all he could do is turn up om the yanks military base and force some soldiers to turn up.
Not one person would let that cunt enter their home and that tells you something surely.
But your arrogance will let you continue to believe that they are waiting with open arms for the US to save them from the evil Dane overlords.
Has Trump announced tariffs on Greenland for ice?
FFS Shark we are proposing a mineral agreement on ice as part of the plan.
https://www.reuters.com/world/poll-shows-85-greenlanders-do-not-want-be-part-us-2025-01-29/
Greenlanders have no interest in joining the US.
America used to be a good country. Now they are geared for shareholders to screw over the rest of the population
Boohoo!!! You can’t fix stupid!!!? When?
"Greenlanders have no interest in joining the US."
Has the alternative been explained to them?... are we sure they don't wanna join? who said so? ...and when?
Draad, can you provide any proof that Greenlanders are interested in becoming part of America?
Most people have read in the news that only 3% of Greenlanders have expressed interest in becoming part of the USA.
USA minimum wage $7 an hour
Now that's 1980
sies.
Most people have read in the news that only 3% of Greenlanders have expressed interest in becoming part of the USA.
Draad has a different reality on most issues......never left or right
USA minimum wage $7 an hour
Ja, they depend on tips......gawd knows how you work a budget on that bit of BS.
Has the alternative been explained to them?... are we sure they don't wanna join? who said so? ...and when?
There is only two options the the people have Greenland have ever considered, independence or remaining as a Danish territory.
Yes we are absolutely sure they don't want join the US. We know this because (A) Greenland has never expressed an interest in joining the US (B) the newly elected leader of Greenland has said it will never be part of the US, and (C) a recent poll showed that 85% of Greenlanders were against joining the US, with only 6% in support.
"Most people have read in the news that only 3% of Greenlanders have expressed interest in becoming part of the USA.
Draad has a different reality on most issues......never left or right"
Not quite...I would say a different perspective of the same reality.
"There is only two options the the people have Greenland have ever considered, independence or remaining as a Danish territory.
Actually not...DJT put another option on the table.
Yes we are absolutely sure they don't want join the US. We know this because (A) Greenland has never expressed an interest in joining the US (I don't think they rver thought it would be an option) (B) the newly elected leader of Greenland has said it will never be part of the US ( that's his opinion, he can't speak for his constitutes), and (C) a recent poll showed that 85% of Greenlanders were against joining the US, with only 6% in support. (polls can be deceptively bias...we will never know, unless there is a referendum.
The people of Greenland must and will decide for themselves and from what I've heard from people who've been there, they look fiercely independent and not particularly fond of tourists and foreigners...so yes it is most probable that they would choose independence rather than becoming part of the USA...but how to fefend that independence in an increasingly polarized world...they will have to rely on the EU to defend that independence.
The abocve is total BS as to be expected from Guardian readers an most of it is not even logical or proven by facts.
The total population of Greenland is 51 000 people, At present the present Danish and EU grants amount to $77 million per year making up a Greenlad Government income per year amounts to less than $160 000 000 per year - ie most of the fishing industry providing 70% of the GDP - there is vast unexploited ineral reserves in Geenland - but cannot be used bcause of EU restruictions, In return Grenland received a grant fom the eu to assist in the fishing industry,
The idea that the Greenland populatio is thiving is total misredpresnetation. They are largely dependent on the income of the Greenland local Government, The GDP of Greenland is $51 536 per resident -the equavalet figure for the USA is $69 000.
Greenland wants total indepenence fronm Denmark and the EU restrictions on agricuural and mining and in return wants a major USDF base in Greenland that would add to the GDP of Greenland - but they aso wants invesmnt in Agricultural and mining investment from basically the USA to ehance the well-fare of Greenland. Greenlandes realize hey need USA army protection - because they know they cannt defend themselves and he Danish protection is just a pape tiger with no substance,
So h fact is the Greenlandes wanted protection - but nor be part of teh USA with all its domestic malgovernance at present ebing corrected by the new Trump administration. So what will the future hold for Grenland - nobody really knows - but an army attack by anybo county will conquer Grenland i less han a day - since he only twon in Germny is where two-thirds the population resides (ie 32 00 people). So US defense support is vital for Greenlanders.
It is around those figures that the future will play out, Media garbage the site brainwashed idiots love to quote.
Greenlanders want to reduce their minimum wage of $15 dollars per hour, to the $7 dollars per hour. #MAGA
Actually not...DJT put another option on the table.
Which they have next to zero interest in. This has been perfectly clear by now.
so yes it is most probable that they would choose independence rather than becoming part of the USA...but how to fefend that independence in an increasingly polarized world...they will have to rely on the EU to defend that independence.
More probable?. Its a certainty they would choose independence over joining America.
No one is actually threatening Greenland's freedom other than America at this point. If the American's have their own security concerns then I'm sure both the Danes and the Greenlanders will be willing to work something out with the American's. The American's have a military base there already, they use to have several bases there, I'm sure additional bases would be permitted, if the American's just ask nicely.
As for relying on the the EU to defend an independent Greenland. While first your assuming that an independent Greenland would be an EU member. The EU isn't a military power at present, it was never meant to be, nor did the American's ever want any sort of parallel European security apparatus in Europe alongside NATO. So security of member states is down to member states or NATO if they are member of that.
"No one is actually threatening Greenland's freedom other than America at this point."
America's military presence in Greenland is actually guaranteeing their freedom ATM.
America's military presence in Greenland is actually guaranteeing their freedom ATM.
From who exactly?
America has security concerns in the Arctic region, hence its interest in Greenland. That doesn't mean that Greenland's freedom has been or is under direct threat.
Aside from the point, America has just 200 soldier's in Greenland, if hypothetically someone like Russia was to attack it, they would be hardly be deterred by such a small force.
They would much more likely be deterred by the fact that as Greenland is a Danish territory if they tried to take it by force, it would likely trigger article 5 of NATO. They would also likely be deterred by fact that geographically it would be next to impossible for Russia to hold it and keep it resupplied, as Greenland is closer to NATO territories than it is to Russian territory.
"From who exactly?"
Yes, I'm also interested to know. Who is threatening the freedom of Greenland . . . other than Bozo of course . . .?
Well nobody would dare, that's the point. Why else allow the Americans to have a base there? ...and the Danes being part of the EU and NATO is an extended safeguard...if they were totally on their own, they would be vulnerable like Ukraine.
The Draad narrative is like saying Russia is invading Ukraine to provide them with security...
Greenland should want to become part of America to be safe...
The Greelanders minimum wage is $15 per hour, but somehow they would prefer the MAGA minimum wage of $7 per hour....
Somehow they would prefer to have an American Oligarchy that can rob them, just like how they destroyed democracy in America.
No one has attacked Europe in almost 100 years. It is only recently that Russia has attacked Ukraine, which is not part of NATO. Greenland under Denmark, is part of NATO.
It is not exactly a prized asset.It would be difficult to defend counter attacks.
Well nobody would dare, that's the point. Why else allow the Americans to have a base there?
The US has missile warning/defense and space surveillance system's in place there, designed to protect the American homeland.
...and the Danes being part of the EU and NATO is an extended safeguard.
All of it is a safeguard. That doesn't mean there is an imminent threat to Greenland's freedom.
if they were totally on their own, they would be vulnerable like Ukraine.
So now you understand why Eastern Europe and Ukraine want to be in NATO. But being on your own doesn't necessarily mean someone's going to invade, geography can work in your favor and not every country has an aggressive neighbor on its border.
Greenland: The estimated per capita income (GDP per capita) is around $55,000 (varies slightly based on economic activity, mainly fisheries and resource extraction).
United States: The per capita income (GDP per capita) is approximately $80,000 (as of 2024).
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That plus a National Weath Fund granted for the purchase, equal to a million dollars per resident, make a compelling financial case.
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The counter argument is the Greenlanders prefer a more natural life and don’t want to change. Fair point for them, but what about their children will they feel the same way many South Africans seem to feel about the generation that flubbed the change. Who knows.
@Mozart, you know that per capita earnings in America in the 21st century are meaningless because the richest 1000 people own most of the money. So it is skewed stats...
The minimum wage is a far more accurate measure of America. Having a minimum wage of $7 per hour is an embarrassment. It is slave labour. It is not Democracy; it is an authoritarian version of capitalism.
No job is worth $7 per hour...
If McDonald's and Burger King have price fixing agreements for pricing their products, they are surely going to do the same with employment. That is not a free market.
Competition and government regulation are what ensures wages don't turn into slave labour
Big Tech owns America... Yet most of these people are the product of the old America, not the current incarnation. The current America is hiding behind Big Tech products,
The minimum wage isn’t the applicable minimum wage in most states except the South. States have their own minimum wage and that is the applicable rate where established….
California $16.5
New York $16.5
Illinois $15
Alaska $11.9
Alabama $7.25
And it’s a largely irrelevant number…this from Google AI
In 2023, approximately 1.1% of workers in the U.S. were paid hourly rates at or below the federal minimum wage, which is $7.25 per hour.
Interesting... The blue states have a much higher minimum wage than the red states.
It is no surprise that the blue states have more brains. They have more of a long-term gain plan.
The red states that use the federal minimum rate of 7 dollars would probably have an even lower rate than $7 per hour if it was legally possible.
Americans frequently complain of having to work 2 jobs to get by.
America is now just a top heavy society that relies on the international sales of Big Tech.
Would Greenland be a blue state or a red state? Big difference...
As long as the Alabama football team is doing well nobody cares about the minimum wage. Given all the shopping that happens in Reykjavik as a comparison, I expect the Greenlanders to become obsessed with trinkets in airports. I still have a sweater I bought there in 1970, still in perfect condition.
Stop the quibbling, let’s make Greenland great again and deport the boring Danes
The red states that use the federal minimum rate of 7 dollars would probably have an even lower rate than $7 per hour if it was legally possible.
Someone who is on $7/hr has to pay the same at the checkout for sustainable items as someone on a higher minimum.
Brilliant, did you come up with that all by yourself?
Thank you.......that is so very, very kind of you.
The above is weird shit - the fact is that millions of peop0le fled from DP controlled ehel holes where the minimum wage does not off set the higher livng costs. In the Demcratic Paty controlled states the living costs is MUC HIgher than in the Reublican States whose economies are thriving.
Califonia Example
Take for instance petrol prices - in California it is $6 dollars a gallon in Republican States it is $3,50, California recently recently showed us why durng the past 5 years over 1,5 million people fled from it - as a result of over-taxation and higher transport costs. Housing costs is twice as high in California as it is for similar housing in Republican states. Services are the same and so is he simple ecample of eggs - California $9.60 a dozen - in other Republican states $4,50 an hour.
I will give you another example. That unsurpassible idiot Newsom inceased the minimum wage of workers in food outlets to $20 per hour - leacing out a business operation owned by a billionaire funding the D P from the outlrts named to pay $20 per hour wages. As a result the prices of items sold went up 10% and the people just stop buying their products - so 1 600 outlets closed down and 100 000 workers lost their jobs.
California has other similar examples, When people who fled from California were asked why they fled to South Carolina they referred to the catastrpohivc costs of living - bit they caimed in South Carolina they can elave their homes after sunset and go visiting or eating out - in California they became prisoners in their homes after sunset mdoh hey no their children dare to leae their himes at nght, . hey gaine d thaa fter years of living heell they ained ther freedom by moving to South Carolina. At the same time hundreds of thousands of people live on sidewalks and criminaliy is twice as high in California than in other states. When they asked people who fled to Acapulco why they left California the answer was the California gangs are more dangerous than the Mexican Cartels.
And hen you have the wonderful similar levels of maladministration. An easy example is the recent Ls Angeles foires destroying tens of thosands of buildings - reason the fre hyndreds did not have water to prevent usage of it, Caliornia was the state where voter fraud kept the Democras in pwer with 67% DP majorites. In the last election maladministration and crazy policies reduced the Caifornia voter support to 57%, So now in opinio pold 48% 0 he voters asai in 2026 48% of the votes said thew ill support a Reublcan Party cabddate for eectinas Goivernor as against 45% fo crooked Schiff and brainless Harris,
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The same conditions apply to other States and cities governed by the Democrats, That is he reason why the working class voted overwhelmingly for Trump in the last election. Black men also left the DP and voted for the Trump and amongst Hispanics .the suppot for he Democrats were down to 42% from 57% in 2020.
Tje minimum wage is not really an issue because where theyearn ,ore ther real livin cnduitions are worse. . , .
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extract from: https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2025/mar/31/trump-greenland-us-morally-wrong-strategy-disastrous
Timothy Snyder
As a parting shot, Vance told Greenlanders that life with the US would be better than with Denmark. Danish officials have been too diplomatic to answer directly the insults directed at them from their own territory during an uninvited visit by imperialist hotheads. Let me though just note a few possible replies, off the top of my head. The comparison between life in the US and life in Denmark is not just polemical. Musk-Trump treat Europe as though it were some decadent abyss, and propose that alliances with dictatorships would somehow be better. But Europe is not only home to our traditional allies; it is an enviable zone of democracy, wealth and prosperity with which it benefits us to have good relations, and from which we can sometimes learn.
So consider. The US is 24th in the world in the happiness rankings. Not bad. But Denmark is No 2 (after Finland). On a scale of 1 to 100, Freedom House ranks Denmark 97 and the US 84 on freedom – and the US will drop a great deal this year. An American is about 10 times more likely to be incarcerated than a Dane. Danes have access to universal and essentially free healthcare; Americans spend a huge amount of money to be sick more often and to be treated worse when they are. Danes on average live four years longer than Americans. In Denmark, university education is free; the average balance owed by the tens of millions of Americans who hold student debt in the US is about $40,000. Danish parents share a year of paid parental leave. In the US, one parent might get 12 weeks of unpaid leave. Denmark has children’s story writer Hans Christian Andersen. The US has children’s story writer JD Vance. American children are about twice as likely as Danish children to die before the age of five.