Following the red card departure of Nasrallah, Hezbollah (The Party of God) is now leaderless.
This could escalate further, or it could create a power struggle within Hezbollah. 

Who knows at this point. I've no doubt Israel can defeat Hezbollah in any ground war and they could possibly occupy southern Lebanon but to what end. Israel's present course of action might destroy Hezbollah now and buy Israel a few years of relative peace but in the end unless the root causes of this conflict are addressed we are just going be talking about this in 10 then 20 years time and on and on.

How tiresome for you that you might have to talk about this in 10 or 20 years. So what are you saying, they shouldn’t have taken out this killer, or are you suggesting, like Mike in the case of the Ukraine, they should just sit down and negotiate with the fellows shooting rockets at them.

I'd also ask Star to opine on the root cause...

Let's apply some first principles thinking to this and see where we land ;)

Mozart

I think that in this case Biden and the Democrats are pleading with Iran not to help Hezbollah and Hamas and releasing frozen Iran dollars to be released and in exhange to get the Ayatollah regime to support Harris in the USA election (as happened in the 2020 election) and in exchange forcing Israel to submit to regular terrorist attacks by the Iran surrogates in future by delayng arms delivery and undrmine Israel future existence.

You lied about my attitude as to negotiations with regard to ending the Ukraine war through negoiations and are again tallkng  shit because you supprt the war all out and lied constaly about the conduct of the USA in promitung the War as from 2014 onwards.   There was ample opportunity for negotiations before the Russian invasion in 2022 - but the Biden administration  undemine the agrement Putin and Zeleelnsky signed in early February 2022 - by forcing Zelesnkyy to undermine th agrment he signed and when Turkey tried to arrange a ceasefire and agrement was ready for acceptance by the Ukraine and Russin Presidents - the Biden Regime ordered the Ukraine Foreign Minister to leave Istanbul and that possible ceasfire was detroyed by the USA.   That was followed 18 months later by a lie of the WSJ about what really happened and you fell fo the BS totally.

You are admittedly the top site BSter ever.   Why do you support war and not a reasonable peaceful peace negotiations in Ukraine?

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How tiresome for you that you might have to talk about this in 10 or 20 years. So what are you saying, they shouldn’t have taken out this killer, or are you suggesting, like Mike in the case of the Ukraine, they should just sit down and negotiate with the fellows shooting rockets at them.

There is a fundamental difference between the Russian-Ukraine war and the Israel-Palestine conflict. 

Russia started a blatant war of aggression to steal Ukrainian territory and to force a regime change in Kyiv that would effectively make it a vassal state of Russia. I believe Ukraine should fight on as long as the means and will to do so. It holds the moral high ground.

Hamas launched a brutal and repugnant terrorist attack on October 7th last year. I would never support their actions or Hezbollah's or other like minded groups but that event did not take place in isolation. Its follows decades of Israel occupying ever more Palestinian land and oppressing its people. Some sort of political arrangement between Israel and Palestine needs to happen where Palestine gets its own viable state otherwise their will never be peace between the two. If their isn't there's always going be groups like Hamas and Hezbollah and this cycle of violence will continue to flare up every few years. Neither side will never truly know peace. 

Tell me Moz, what do you propose as the solution?

I'd also ask Star to opine on the root cause...

Do you want to go back to 1947 and do you have all year?

Hamas launched a brutal and repugnant terrorist attack on October 7th last year. I would never support their actions or Hezbollah's or other like minded groups but that event did not take place in isolation. Its follows decades of Israel occupying ever more Palestinian land and oppressing its people. Some sort of political arrangement between Israel and Palestine needs to happen where Palestine gets its own viable state otherwise their will never be peace between the two. If their isn't there's always going be groups like Hamas and Hezbollah and this cycle of violence will continue to flare up every few years. Neither side will never truly know peace.

100%

The both of you - Stav and Denny - should stop supportin g the shit yousnupport in Washington.   Biden supported Iran by unfreezing ilegally and against the USA law at least $300 billion in frozen  Iran  money earned from oil exports - the law forbid reelease  monwy as long as Iran funds and support through and provide weapons to the wars in Syria, Iraq, Yemen and Libya - while funding Hezbollah and  Hamas as well as fuding and supplying arms to  Hezbollah and Hamas as well.

Biden broke the law by nfrozing the money and it went straigt towards enhancing the wars in the country mentioned and funding of the attacks of Hezbollah and Hamas - which resulted in attack of Israel,   The funds aso enabed Iran to devcelop their first nuclear bombs,

When Musim radicals organized the Hamas riots in the USA - where rioters shouted "Death to Israel" and "Death to America" - the Democrats did nothing about their supportig subsidiaries of the Democratic Party - BLM and Antifa - bot started by Obama - theyd id nthing  about it - and threats about Jews living in  the USA was consistet and dangerous.   Neither Biden and Harris (the altter of whom supported the riots) - did nothing to stop the riots.    I turned out hat the riots were funded by Sros and Pritzker - both amjor funders of the  

One of their fellow criminals - Schumer - went further and called on Israel to have an election so the USA should get rid of  the present Israeli Government and repalce it with obedient  idiots - it was cear on whose side te present regime in Washington were.   In between the USA Secretary of State Blinken went around negotiating a deal with Hamas to release hstages and ended up with promisng more unfreezing of money if Iran would co-operate in getting a deal dnne,   The result was tat Hamas did not reease th hostages they held - whle the US Government  delayed the arms delivery to Israel approved by Congress - in respect of that proposal approcved by Congress all the Democrats - bar 10 Jewish House members - voted  against provision of arms to Israel.   So with friends like the Demcorats - who need enemies, 

As to Ukraine you were fed BS for years and now are totally incapable to think for yourself.   THe USA sabotaged two peace agrements signed by both the Ukrane and Russian Presidnts and accepted by te UN Security Council and also sabotaged a  armistice in Ukraine  negotiated by Turkey and ready for signature by the Presidents of Ukraine and Russia Adminitration.     So please support the US A Governemtn which has 100% control over the Government of Ukraine and the Ukraine Government has no say as to running  of the war and foreign relationships as well.    Evrything is cotrolled by the corruption and crooking US Governemnt.         

As a matter of fact Congress voted for arms         

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Shitory

Facts ignored by Denny - but he believe all the shit and lies spread by the eftis media - so to consider to see whether theur bay be some merit when documents disprove the lies ad distortion,   

Seeing what he always write - one wonders how is it possible for lies can have such an effect on people who lost their ability to think for themxelves   

I think in both instances you can’t negotiate with somebody who wasn’t committed to negotiations… .Putin in the case of Russia, Arafat in the case of the Palestinians.  So until you have a Palestinian leader that wants a negotiated solution….pretending it’s in Israel’s gift to solve this, is delusional

https://honestreporting.com/in-depth-arafat-rejected-peace-in-2000/

Personally I think the radicalism in Iran in particular, makes it very hard for the Palestinians to go off on their own. So let’s not pretend. As of right now Israel is right to show strength. The time for compromise isn’t here yet.

Oh I'm aware the Palestinian's have shafted themselves on many occasions and like the article you linked to Arafat was not negotiating in good faith at Camp David. There is an expression that many think is apt. The Palestinian's never miss an opportunity to miss an opportunity. 

But Camp David is over 20 years ago and Arafat is long gone.

pretending it’s in Israel’s gift to solve this, is delusional

Even if this is true about a wider peace, is quite clear Netanyahu has no interest in negotiations at the moment. Hamas have said they are willing to negotiate if there is a ceasefire in Gaza and Hezbollah have said they will stop firing rockets into Israel if there is a ceasefire. 

Now whatever about a wider peace what's most certainly is in Israel's power to do is to stop settlement expansion. It can stop detaining thousands of Palestinian's and keep them detained without ever charging them. It can stop practising collective punishment It can stop restricting aid into Gaza, it can stop killing journalists and committing war crimes. But it won't because its government is lead by extremists, particular the junior collation partners propping up Netanyahu, they are religious nutjobs .

. So let’s not pretend. As of right now Israel is right to show strength. The time for compromise isn’t here yet.

But that's what Israel has been doing for decades now. It hasn't worked.

It hasn't worked.

and will never work

So support what the Democrats in the USA wants and destroy Israel s a country.   Also suppor genocide of the Jews in the world.    Why have a county which is religious in the world - fight it all out,   

So lets face facts - managed to negtiate a peace deal in the ME to stabilize isues and Biden destroyed the Abrahamic Accords.

So the main concern of some membes are - there are too many religious people in the world - they need to be wiped out altogether.    A great recipe for world peace,                

Actually Israel is doing more this time. It’s exposing the toothlessness of the Iranian threat and demonstrating Hezbollah is out of its league. The alliance against Israel can’t be  induced to negotiate, there are far too many players  gaining from the conflict. But if the conflict is demonstrated to be an absolute lost cause, perhaps saner voices may prevail.

At the cost of 1000s of innocent lives...Israel within the ME is a very complex problem...I don't see a sollution without the one side completely destroyed...and that's not an option...well, I thought the same about Northern Ireland and they seems to be doing OK...same with Apartheid South Africa...so it is possible I suppose.