Is it because some grew up in the Bluff or Bellville or some in Constantia or Kloof or went to Hilton, Bishops, Michaelhouse or Paarl Boys. Human nature prefers birds of a feather. It is a social tendency to congregate with the familiar and not venture out of parameters set by the people who set these standards. I rebel against conformity EXCEPT where manners and consideration is concerned...I'm a classist, not a racialist...manners make a man and a lady and strong character . 

I'm different and curious...I want to know how others feel and react from a different background. I'm not a snob, but I hate uncouth people with selfish, inconsiderate bad manners. It's the way I was brought up. Manners definitely make a man and character.

It's clear that Tit is labouring under the delusion that he's this refined and well-educated gentleman who is so much better than the rest of us . . . while everyone else sees him as a whiny, boring, attention-seeking and stupid old drunkard.

Manners do not maketh the man.

Actions and their consequences do.

If manners were an indicator as to your character then we can safely say that Hitler was a good man because I bet he was very well mannered. 

Nobody likes pretentious people and there is strong case for manners being pretentious. 

They're not a bad thing necessarily, but not really a prerequisite to being a good person 

If I had to pick a few traits that defined a person's quality, I'd say empathy would be right at the top and should be followed closely by generosity and self-awareness.

It's easy to give what doesn't cost you anything. Give me a ru de person that cares about others over a well mannered hypocrite any day.

Sh!t Plum, that's one of the best posts I've read on here in a long time.

Haha thanks, Draad 

Well put Plum, you nailed it.

Seb what about Glenwood and DHS, they also have their share of the individuals who are gentlemen to say the least.

Judgementalism is a common disease...

Plum...Hitler had manners?...LOL..you're not serious really? .

. He was a screaming, lowlife lunatic. 

Manners extend much more further than etiquette. Yes indeed it requires caring, benevolence, moral decency and respect for your fellowman.

Typing derogatory insults based on presumption and assumption on others  that you obviously don't know...shows your true colours. Don't judge others but it is easy for a good, truthful and unselfish  person to  to discern evil.

We all have many faults and sometimes step over the line at times but the biggest hypocrites here calling others here hypocrites is the biggest farce of all. Sweep your own house first before you  demand others to sweep their's. Remove the log in your own eye before trying to pick the speck out of your brothers eye...then you might be able to see clearly.

Intelligent and informed folk will of course differ from ill informed drooling loons like those unfortunates of the stinker group??