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Jul 08, 2024, 03:05

‘I'm no fan of former President Donald Trump. I don't think he's a good presidential candidate or a good representation of the Republican Party. He's an arrogant, thin-skinned narcissistic buffoon. He's a convicted felon battling additional indictments. Americans deserve better.

For years, Democrats have weaponized Trump's character flaws: At least our guy isn't a fraud or a felon. Yet, their guy has shown the world he isn't fit mentally or physically to be president.

Now that Biden's poor condition has been exposed, even I can't help but wonder: Is Trump actually worse than Biden?


Let's frame this another way: Trump's flaws have long been exposed for everyone to see ? and to decide for themselves his fitness to serve in elected office. But suppose the Republican Party had been propping up a guy who was in serious cognitive decline and denying to the American pubic that he actually was in decline? Would Republicans ever hear the end of it?

Wouldn't Democrats weaponize such a scandal until the end of time? Of course they would.

It's time to weigh the serious flaws of both Biden and Trump: Is one worse? Are they both awful? If so, where do we go from here?

Why did the Democratic Party hide the truth for so long?

Now that we know that Democratic leaders knew about Biden's decline, why did they hide it for so long?

The answer is important because there are only two possible responses, and neither of them is good.

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Either Democrats hid Biden's poor condition because they don't respect Americans or the public's right to full disclosure.

Or Democrats hid what they knew about Biden because they want to maintain power ? no matter the cost to America's well-being.

Is their thirst for power greater than their respect, empathy and goodwill toward the American public?

Do Democrats dare to answer honestly?’

Nicole Russell is an opinion columnist with USA TODAY. She lives in Texas with her four kids. Sign up for her newsletter, The Right Track, and get it delivered to your inbox.

Jul 08, 2024, 06:20

It was impossible to hide. Whether right or left, political extremists simply refuse to see what's right in front of their eyes. As I mentioned here before, I've been hearing from some of my leftie acquaintances that Biden merely has a "stuttering problem" for years now. That's how deep they delude themselves. So if the democrat voters didn't see what was playing out right in front of their eyes for the last 4 years, they can hardly blame the party. 

You don't wanna see, you ain't gonna see.

Jul 08, 2024, 10:37

It works both ways.

Jul 08, 2024, 10:59

With all due respect Biden is just a front as President -  the decisionmaker is probably a split betgween Obama, Soros and Gates - the latter 2 has decided on the Law and order policies and open borderfs issue (Soros)  and Gates  iro of the Green Policy.

I have reason to believe the abovce is true, namely -

*     Soros son meeting with WH officials at least once a month to deal with his father's two favorrite programs;

*      Gates meeting with the Energy Secretary basis almost  as Soros' son mewting with the WH officials; and

*      Obama who moved from his luxury villa in Martha's Vimeyard to his luxury home n Washinton early thisx year. and his agent in the WH being Rice, 

It turned the USA international relartionship intro a real mess - even his  conduct at the G7 leaders meeting was an unbelievable farce.    What trust can th e G7 leadxers have when the front man is grossly incompetent. and need a  diagnostic test to see whether he can be President.   

According to the  latest opiniion polls  72% of the voters believe Biden should not be in the WH and his approval rating  is down to between 36 and 38% of the voters with between 16 and 19% being his performance approval being negastive.

\The problem is that the Democratic Party usually being center-left is now be regarded as Far Left based on 145 members of the House beng regarded as being far-left.    That is why Kenndy is drawing the center left voters preferring Kennedy to Biden,   .  That could end up with the present party coalition being resulting in a split into two separeate parties.

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Jul 08, 2024, 12:01

Biden recently claimed he used to be a young black woman, and that he is the first black president. This guy needs to be enjoying his retirement at the pool, not running a country.

However, I would rather have Biden in a coffin as president than Trump.

I guarantee that if Trump wins, his supporters will become his biggest haters.

You will see the real side of Trump, who is not a conservative or anything. He is not fighting for the rights of the people, he is purely an opportunist who is taking advantage of Democracy being in decline. Another Orban/Putin/Kim Jon. If he wins again, he no longer needs the voters.

Obama and George Bush as the last ex-presidents could conduct TV debates along with the media.

Biden needs to step down because it is more than just beating Trump. 
Biden is significantly worse now than 4 years ago, so what will he be like in another 3 years or so?

The Democrats need to redo their primaries, but just with the top 3-5 candidates. 
Harris, Newsom, and Whitner should run against each other. Then who ever wins chooses one of the others as vice president. 

Jul 08, 2024, 12:23

lol Trump still living large in people's minds.

I just want him to be elected again so that Denise can sign back up to BLM.

Jul 08, 2024, 13:19

SB

You will see the real side of Trump, who is not a conservative or anything. He is not fighting for the rights of the people, he is purely an opportunist who is taking advantage of Democracy being in decline. Another Orban/Putin/Kim Jon. If he wins again, he no longer needs the voters.

Where did you get thaty drivel from?    It must be really idiotric to come up with that - there was no proof that Trumnp being  guiltry of anything  you claim would  happen.   Trump realized that the USA was going  down the drain under Obama and tried to bring the country back to being respected.     The people had more money in their pockets and the Democrats lied their arses off abot the so-called Russian Hoax  and you beleived tfhat as well.

So lets look at present - Trump saw the disastrous impact of the Biden .Adminsitration and  the slide into a banana repoublic dictatorship on the go.   Trump is a patriot and could not take the BS anymore and he is fighting to restore a constitutional governfment in the USA.   He s going to appoint a really capable VP that can take ovcer from him in 2028 and he is not goimng to  undermine the country by taking bribes from foreign countries like the Biden  Crime family did - so the man for he future will be chosen by Trump.

You have just moved into the league of far-leftists who wants to see the destruction of   Democracy anyway - so you are really coming up with very real BS .  In his previsous Presidency he kept to the USA Constitution - somerthing Biden abused on many occasions and the person taking over will not have the record of illegal spying by the FBI on US  citizens and using the Justice Department to abuse rights of people by taking opposition to court on fake charges.

As an example - the Judge in the New York case has postponed sentencing to Late September - he is waiting to see whether Biden is re-appointed as DP candidate and will then act on his instruction.   If Biden is not elected the new candidate will then instruct him what to do.in the oase.

You also support tjhe start of WW3 - so any kind of madness comes to you naturally anyway?,   .         

Jul 08, 2024, 14:13

DumbMike Biden, you are self-deluded. So out of touch with reality, that you are Biden 2.0

Jul 08, 2024, 14:46

Does not help - you are delusional and totally brainwashed so you cannot think for yourself.   You wouild vote for a Zombie based on stories the leftist emdia came up with.   None of what you said you can prove is going to happen.   It did not happen when Trump was  President - so why should it happen in future.   Only idiots will come up with the above BS.  \

Trump is not a career politician - and never will be.   His outlook is centrist  - a stastement you always denied - but is now getting  through the shit that makes thinking by you vtrtually impossible,  

Trump is not interested  in destroying fthe USA - he has massive  investments in the USA - but also worldwide and has no interey in seeing the USA collapsiong.   He does not intend leaving  his children destitute.   

Finally - he has never been corrupt  and proven to be so.   He never took his salsry as President  - it was donated to  welfare projects.  He also had his hotel paid to the US Treasury money they got from foreign visitors on official duty involving the US Government.   So why should he do oherwise during his secoond presidency?

All in all you write shit on site and cannot even prove anything you write.    Amazing the amount of  shit you regularly come up with on site.   

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Jul 08, 2024, 15:01

Mozart

What law dod Trump broke which turned him into a felon?    Nobody actually knows what law he broke - so please tell us what is the cas here.  

Jul 08, 2024, 15:15

The people who genuinely believe that Trump only wants to become president again, just to destroy the USA ...... are deluded..... completely and utterly deluded.

 

Jul 08, 2024, 18:00

Yes that’s complete nonsense. He brings a lot of baggage, but Trump is as American as they come. 

Jul 08, 2024, 19:52

The people who genuinely believe that Trump only wants to become president again, just to destroy the USA ...... are deluded..... completely and utterly deluded.

Yes that’s complete nonsense. He brings a lot of baggage, but Trump is as American as they come. 

Emm...who are these people saying that?

Jul 08, 2024, 21:06

Emm…..here’s the Boston Globe to give you one example:

https://www.bostonglobe.com/2024/07/07/opinion/donald-trump-end-of-democracy/

I don’t know if it’s reached rural Ireland but there are many nutters who believe this stuff. As a suggestion don’t ask the forum, search the internet.

Jul 08, 2024, 21:36

Mike Pence says he cant find it within his heart to endorse his former president. Poor old Pence was almost sacrificed on Jan 6th.

Nor do many appointed Trump officials that made up the government.

Jul 08, 2024, 22:05

Fair enough.

I don't think Trump deliberately wants to destroy America and is running for President purely for the sake of his ego. But Trump like when it comes to lying where I genuinely believe Trump is actually incapable of knowing the difference between the truth and lying, Trump also can't tell apart his own interests from the interests of the country. He assumes they are same thing. Therein lies the danger. 




Jul 08, 2024, 22:37

SB

I am aking  you for proof of what you wrote and so far only comments of Pence came out.   Thed FBI even had an agent carrying a hangman's noose to hang  Pence and never arrested or even question their agent on that score.   Pence speaks for perhaps 1% of he voters.   

So I expect fcrom you real proof not tjhe sayings of Pence who apparently became an opponent of Trump.    Give me real written proof dimness.

Now let us deal with the following frm yours:=

"The Democrats need to redo their primaries, but just with the top 3-5 candidates. 

Harris, Newsom, and Whitner should run against each other. Then who ever wins chooses one of the others as vice president."

You must e reallym deluded  - it will take a month to organize and gfazette a program for new primnary election.    It will be taking  at least thrfee months to holdx all the new elections  mand then to gvet new votes prinmed and distribnuted in time for early elecions.

 You really must be deluded if you think new primaries could be held before the stasrting of the early voting process .kicks in.

So their is no time for primaries and the action is becming clear.   At    least 12 of the DP members of the House .so a new motion is being  prepared to fire Biden forthwith based on his incapacity to handle the Presidency - and indications are that a lot of DP members in amrginal districts don't want to be accused of being  supporting Zombie Biden.   

So terfe is no way now primaries can be held in time - and the rfel situation is that if Biden is firedd due to his physical and mental ability in terfms of Amendment 35r of the USA Constitution  then Harris will take over the Presidency and she can appoint a new VP  subject of appoval by te House,  

However there would no democraic way of getting  a new candidate accepted so the major sponsors of th e DP  would decide on who should be he candidxate.- not the voters   That would obviously leads to an UNDEMOCRATIC  electiuon.   Not that this will  bother the  Democrats - after all they claim that only themselves are suitable to ruin the country.  

So try again - your above cmments can be expected from a brainwashed and braindamaged 2 year old.  

    

Jul 09, 2024, 00:18

No DumbMike Biden.

Jul 09, 2024, 07:35

"I don’t know if it’s reached rural Ireland but there are many nutters who believe this stuff. As a suggestion don’t ask the forum, search the internet."

LMAO

"Emm...who are these people saying that?"

Yeah, for a guy who is quite adept at researching information on the web, this really is a daft question


Jul 09, 2024, 08:29

"where I genuinely believe Trump is actually incapable of knowing the difference between the truth and lying"

LOL .... this is just too bloody hilarious

The international news outlets are having an absolute field day regarding recent articles about all the numerous blatant and outrageous lies that Biden has been peddling to try and get additional support for his run for the presidency.

Trump has lied, of this there is absolutely no doubt at all ...and he should be called out for all of them....., but to ignore or side step the outright audacity and abundance of lies that Biden has be pushing lately is just beyond comprehension....

Check "some" of these lies from Biden, and the worst part is that a lot of these lies here only came out in the past 6 - 18 months ..... and keep in mind that I have left out about another 20 - 30 blatant lies from Biden.... like his uncle being eaten by cannibals or his achievements in law school

- Inflation was 9% when I came into office

- Biden says he was arrested in South Africa

- Biden says he was arrested defending civil rights

- Biden says he had no documents that were highly clasified

- Biden states that the wealthiest Americans have a tax rate of 8%

- Biden stated they spent hundreds of millions of dollars in the Florida woodlands

- Biden states he was at ground zero on 9/11 the very next day

- Biden stated that he has already declared  a national climate emergency

- Biden stated they were building a railroad from the Pacific across the Indian ocean... lol

- Biden stated that more cops are killed responding to domestic violence calls than anything else

- Biden stated that the average tax for billionaires is about 3%, lower than a teacher or firefighter

- Biden stated that in the past two years, democracies have become stronger

- Biden stated that he gave his uncle a purple heart for serving in the US military during world war 2

- Biden stated he has been to Iraq, Afghanistan twice as the president, and yet has not gone once

- Biden stated that gas was down from over $5 when he took office

- Biden stated that no service men died under his presidency 

- Biden states that he has never earned a $400 000 salary

And now you have Stav here stating that he genuinely believes that Trump doesn't know the difference between the truth and lying..... LMFAO ....too bloody funny ...


Jul 09, 2024, 08:38

"I don't think Trump deliberately wants to destroy America and is running for President purely for the sake of his ego"

You never fail to surprise me at all Stav, but even your level of utter stupidity and hypocrisy on display here with this statement is astounding.

You say this about Trump's ego, yet Biden is the one telling the whole world that the only way that he will stop running for another presidential term, is if the "Lord Almighty" came down to personally tell him not to, which he says the Lord wouldn't do......  because other than that happening, nobody is stopping him and that he adamantly refuses to step out of the presidential race......despite all his closest allies and long standing contributors and supporters telling him to step down right now....... and here you are wanting to talk about Trump's ego.....

How incredibly naive and dumb can one really be.

Jul 09, 2024, 08:40

"Trump also can't tell apart his own interests from the interests of the country"

You mean like Joe and Hunter have put their own personal interests before the interests of the country.....

Man you are coming across as really stupid with these comments....


Jul 10, 2024, 08:07

I honestly cannot believe or even understand why someone would want to bring up Trump's ego at a specific time like this..... about being the president of the USA, when the current sitting American president that you have right now, is not willing to listen to anyone at all regarding putting America first, in any way, shape or form, by stepping down due to cognitive health reasons..... but rather says that only the "Lord Almighty" might convince him to stand down.

And you want to talk about egos....

You have to be bloody delusional to even bring it up at a time like this .... it's just absolutely downright dumb and stupid.

Jul 10, 2024, 10:00

With Joe standing down where will Jill Biden get money from to buy $5 000 dresses and  Hunter to buy coccaine if the Biden shelf companies cannot get payment from corrupt foreign companies  and especxially Chinese ones for favors done to them in respect of their activities in the USA.

The Chinese apprently also buy oil from the USA Strategic Oil  Reserve  until they are sure that the USA will not have enough oil reserves when China attacks Taiwan and South Korea,  for usae in war situations.

 So who runs the  WH - definitely not Joe Biden..   Obama control all political decision - Hunter all crooked deals involving Biden enterprises and Jill - in cleaning Joe's dirty nappies when Biden Joe fail to realize between farting and shitting.     O - I am wrong - Jill must also make sure that Biden get 14 hours sleep per day and ensuring he can work 4 hours a day before brain functiong is interrrupted.   

Example with the NATO meeting on the go and some discussions was held in the evening the Blinken idiot turned up and told them Biden was not available to artend as he has to be in bed by 6:00 pm.   So the sleeping hours are also controlled by Jill ,   So if the Chinees attack Taiwan the attack would start at 7:00  PM and there would be no reaction from Biden until 11:00 AM the next morning.

And Rooinek and SB will support that crock.   LMAO   .      \        

Jul 10, 2024, 10:13

So many things have clarified or berm revealed  since Trump came on the scene. Americans are awake like never before and see the horror of demonrat Globalist rule. 

It's also become abundantly clear that Sharktwit is a nasty Marxist  nutjob who has no clue whatsoever. He is joined in this by Blobbrain and those other well known mongs Rooitwit and the very dense Denise. 

stavASS can't even see what the open borders Globalists are doing to Ireland! He is also a bad joke. 

As for Mozzie he is cleatly in retreat and starting to say some positive things about Trump. He is obviously taking Nikki Haley's advice to unite behind Trump.

 Trump is of course one of America's greatest ever Presidents.

 As for the fool Mozzie is quoting if he can't see the vast difference between Trump and Biden he is an idiot. 

Every thinking person knows the Globalist controlled media is utter fake news garbage. It's astounding that the very frot five still give them any credence. Shows how utterly gullible they are! :D



Jul 10, 2024, 10:46

Lol someone's not had their coffee this morning.

"I don’t know if it’s reached rural Ireland but there are many nutters who believe this stuff. As a suggestion don’t ask the forum, search the internet."

Kinda ironic when that's coming from someone based in the US, a country which is pretty famous for ignorance when it comes to anything outside its own borders.

Yeah, for a guy who is quite adept at researching information on the web, this really is a daft question.

You see this is the problem when one side lies and mispresents the other side so much, I tend not to believe them when they occasionally do tell something that's true or mostly true. Of course I've heard people say before that President Trump will destroy America or American democracy and I'd have considerable concerns about that as well, but I hadn't heard before anyone claim that it was a deliberate goal of his.

And now you have Stav here stating that he genuinely believes that Trump doesn't know the difference between the truth and lying..... LMFAO ....too bloody funny ...

Trump has lied, of this there is absolutely no doubt at all ...and he should be called out for all of them....., but to ignore or side step the outright audacity and abundance of lies that Biden has be pushing lately is just beyond comprehension....

Check "some" of these lies from Biden, and the worst part is that a lot of these lies here only came out in the past 6 - 18 months ..... and keep in mind that I have left out about another 20 - 30 blatant lies from Biden.... like his uncle being eaten by cannibals or his achievements in law school

Trump has lied? you might win an award for understatement of the year. In the Presidential Debate fact checking's had Trump lying 50 times, he only spoke for 40 minutes and 12 seconds, he's next level when it comes to lying.

I'm not side stepping Biden's issues. I'm well aware of the numerous gaffs Biden's told as well as outright lie he's told, he also told several during the Presidential debate. 

All politicians from all side of the political spectrum lie in every country. They outright lie, they tell half truths, they leave out context, they misrepresent the other side, they miss use statistics etc. I'm not defending it, they shouldn't do it, I'd wish they would stop doing it and the other side has every right to call them out on on their lies. 

To me Biden though falls into the more typical level of standard political lying and misrepresentation coupled with numerous verbal gaffs. In the Presidential debate at least some of his points where based on something resembling reality.  Trump is on a whole other level of dishonesty. 

I don't live in America so obviously I won't be voting in the election. But hypothetically if I was voting and forced to choose I'd still pick Biden in a nano second over Trump, not out of any great love for Biden, I would have preferred had the Democrats picked someone else but that he's the least worst option of the two.

Well I suppose I could vote third party but why would I waste my time doing that.

If Nicky Hailey was the Republican candidate in the election it would be a different story. I'm no fan of the republican party and it policies but I'd have no where near the concern about her being elected than Trump. I'd have far less concerns about her undermining American democracy. She's a proper politician who could be expected to behave you know, behave like an adult with all her mental faculties working and is not horrendously ignorant. She would act Presidential on the world stage.

And now you have Stav here stating that he genuinely believes that Trump doesn't know the difference between the truth and lying..... LMFAO ....too bloody funny ...

Yes I completely stand by that statement. Joe Biden's previous dishonesty doesn't refute that.

You never fail to surprise me at all Stav, but even your level of utter stupidity and hypocrisy on display here with this statement is astounding.

You say this about Trump's ego, yet Biden is the one telling the whole world that the only way that he will stop running for another presidential term, is if the "Lord Almighty" came down to personally tell him not to, which he says the Lord wouldn't do......  because other than that happening, nobody is stopping him and that he adamantly refuses to step out of the presidential race......despite all his closest allies and long standing contributors and supporters telling him to step down right now....... and here you are wanting to talk about Trump's ego.....

How incredibly naive and dumb can one really be.

Again I completely stand by what I said. Absolutely I believe Trump wanting to win the Presidency is purely about his ego, Biden's motivations don't change that.

Now maybe its part ego on Biden's part, but there is genuine question around whether he should pull out or not now. As I said I wished the Democrats had picked someone else over Biden originally but I'm not sure if Biden pulling would increase or decrease the risk of Trump winning the presidency in November. 

Despite all his faults, I do believe Joe Biden is fundamentally a decent man who knows the difference between right and wrong (demonstrated by him calling out the Supreme court ruling which granted him immunity), and maybe ego is interfering with his judgement now but it wasn't ego that first got him into politics. It was to serve the American people. I can't say the same for Trump. Is Joe Biden up to another term, I don't know. Is Trump fit to be President of the US, absolutely not.

You mean like Joe and Hunter have put their own personal interests before the interests of the country.....

Man you are coming across as really stupid with these comments....

I honestly cannot believe or even understand why someone would want to bring up Trump's ego at a specific time like this..... about being the president of the USA, when the current sitting American president that you have right now, is not willing to listen to anyone at all regarding putting America first, in any way, shape or form, by stepping down due to cognitive health reasons..... but rather says that only the "Lord Almighty" might convince him to stand down.

And you want to talk about egos....

You have to be bloody delusional to even bring it up at a time like this .... it's just absolutely downright dumb and stupid.

You're going label me stupid after your numerous posts of tabloid gutter trash and  mut and after you repeatedly demonstrated ignorance of some very basic concepts when it comes to law. Oh what's this you have posted in another thread, several Islamophobic rant posts. Let me guess your last post was taken straight from the United with Israel group and you never did any fact checking of where they got their facts and figures from.

But yeah I've the delusional dumb and stupid one.




Jul 10, 2024, 11:59

 Do you know the difference between Democratic Party truths and lying  - fact there is no  difference. - since the Democrats regard everybody opposing  them as liars - but they never speak  the truth ever.    Biden takes a mile length lead over Trump when it comes to the lying stakes race.  He cannot ever be abused by saying he was truthful - that is totgally against his own ambition. 

"You're going label me stupid after your numerous posts of tabloid gutter trash and  mut and after you repeatedly demonstrated ignorance of some very basic concepts when it comes to law. Oh what's this you have posted in another thread, several Islamophobic rant posts. Let me guess your last post was taken straight from the United with Israel group and you never did any fact checking of where they got their facts and figures from."

This is the weirdest statement ever.   If  there are two posters who quote gutter press statements they are  Stav and Beeno..   What most regard as Stalinist and Hitler BS spreading  than it is those two.         

Jul 10, 2024, 13:11

"You see this is the problem when one side lies and mispresents the other side so much"

Nope, this is the problem when some sarcastic twit tries to make a snide comment about something, without knowing the facts.... it's on you, not them.

"To me Biden though falls into the more typical level of standard political lying and misrepresentation coupled with numerous verbal gaffs"

Of course he does...... just multiple little white lies of little consequence ....lol

"I do believe Joe Biden is fundamentally a decent man who knows the difference between right and wrong"

Of course you would think he's a decent man who clearly knows the difference between right and wrong..... I would expect nothing less from you especially....... I mean, let's be honest here.....any grown man or woman would think that a father that showers with his young daughter more than once, is decent and knows the clear difference between right and wrong......right? ...... well let's just say that by your clear moral standards they would..... but definitely not by mine and very possibly not by many others as well......

Or how about how this decent guy of yours, Joe Biden openly lied about the CIA's involvement with Hunter's Laptop, and the CIA's collusion which happened directly with the Biden campaign, which has now been made public with apparent proof.

Of course he knows what is right versus what is wrong, I mean, just look at how Biden continually lied that he had never spoken to any of Hunter Biden's business associates, where evidence now shows that he was personally directly involved, over 20 times.

How about the outright lie that Joe Biden claimed that his family did not receive a $1 million payout from China through another associate.... when in fact the payment was made to Hunter, Hailie and James Biden and proof has been provided.

Lastly, what about Joe Biden openly lying about his son's business dealings being ethical, where testimony now clearly disputes this...

There are so many other examples, but I will stop at these..... because you will just say that Joe Biden was oblivious to all of this.... he is innocent and that he knows right from wrong, because he is such a decent individual..... lol, sheeeesh Stav, your judge of morals and character really needs to be brought into question here, LMAO.

"but it wasn't ego that first got him into politics. It was to serve the American people."

And you know this for certain how?

"I can't say the same for Trump"

And you know this for certain how?

"You're going label me stupid after your numerous posts of tabloid gutter trash and  mut and after you repeatedly demonstrated ignorance of some very basic concepts when it comes to law"

Ok, maybe not stupid, let's call it ignorant, naive, foolish, dumb, absurd, idiotic, laughable, gullible, nonsensical .... pick one.

"Oh what's this you have posted in another thread, several Islamophobic rant posts. Let me guess your last post was taken straight from the United with Israel group and you never did any fact checking of where they got their facts and figures from"

You clearly don't learn your lesson Stav, so maybe I should add unintelligent to the above list.

We all know what happens when you "guess" Stav, and if I were you, I would seriously look into something before making extremely naive, stupid and dumb comments like "Islamophobic rants"

"But yeah I've the delusional dumb and stupid one"

For once, you got something right..... well done bud.

Jul 10, 2024, 13:43

Stav, just so you know, there's at least one poster on here who nods his head in agreement at just about everything you post . . . well, non-rugby posts anyway . . . so don't let these clowns get you down. You destroy their right wing dogma every time but they lack the intelligence or the self-awareness to realize they're embarrassing themselves.

Keep it up my friend.

Jul 10, 2024, 14:57

Nope, this is the problem when some sarcastic twit tries to make a snide comment about something, without knowing the facts.... it's on you, not them.

Wasn't a snide comment. I was asking a question. I'm happy to accept people that some people are making the argument that Trump is trying to deliberately destroy America when credible evidence is presented and Mozart provided credible evidence. I just wanted to be sure people where not making strawman arguments to make the other side look worse.

Of course he does...... just multiple little white lies of little consequence ....lol

So you have tallied up all the lies of each politician and the numbers indicate Biden is more dishonest than the average?

Of course you would think he's a decent man who clearly knows the difference between right and wrong..... I would expect nothing less from you especially....... I mean, let's be honest here.....any grown man or woman would think that a father that showers with his young daughter more than once, is decent and knows the clear difference between right and wrong......right? ...... well let's just say that by your clear moral standards they would..... but definitely not mine.

LOL who are you to judge me. Here you are once again pushing this exploitive tabloid smut. You don't give a **** that Ashely Biden was continuously traumatized by the leaking of her diary having her personal and intimate thoughts from a time she was struggling with the aftermaths of crime made public to the world for everyone to read like it was some sort of gossip column and those thoughts and words where then twisted by people like yourself to hurt the people she cared about. Not only that but you also omitted critical context from the story just weeks after you railed against Trump's words been taken out of context and you presented a misleading angle on Snoopes and how they updated their fact check on the story. You're just a nasty dishonest little hypocrite.

Or how about how this decent guy of yours, Joe Biden openly lied about the CIA's involvement with Hunter's Laptop, and the CIA's collusion which happened directly with the Biden campaign, which has now been made public with apparent proof.

I know Biden misrepresented what the CIA or was it ex CIA heads said to him about the laptop back in a 2020 Presidential debate and I have no issue with Biden being taken to task over that. I genuinely have no idea what you mean when you say CIA collusion with the Biden campaign and there is proof of that. What are you talking about here. Link please?

Of course he knows what is right versus what is wrong, I mean, just look at how Biden continually lied that he had never spoken to any of Hunter Biden's business associates, where evidence now shows that he was personally directly involved, over 20 times.

Except there is zero evidence any business dealings where discussed in any of those interactions.

How about the outright lie that Joe Biden claimed that his family did not receive a $1 million payout from China through another associate.... when in fact the payment was made to Hunter, Hailie and James Biden and proof has been provided.

Who knows, maybe Biden didn't know at the time or maybe he just wanted to shut down the line of questioning, because we all know why the right wing and GOP was pushing this story, it was an attempt to smear Biden as being in the pockets of China when there is zero evidence he directly benefitted from the money or that the money his family earned was in any way illegal.

Lastly, what about Joe Biden openly lying about his son's business dealings being ethical, where testimony now clearly disputes this...

Again its impossible to know how much Biden actually knew about his son's business dealings. Its possible Biden gave too much of the benefit of the doubt to Hunter, he wanted to believe him as he was his son and perhaps to some extent Biden knew Hunter was exploiting the family name to open open doors in the business world. Perhaps he operated off instinct to immediately defend his son when he was accused various different things. Its hard to say.

There are so many other examples, but I will stop at these..... because you will just say that Joe Biden was oblivious to all of this.... he is innocent and that he knows right from wrong, because he is such a decent individual..... lol, sheeeesh Stav, your judge of morals and character really needs to be brought into question here, LMAO.

Why stop, I can point to the example of Joe Biden criticizing the Supreme Court ruling that effectively granted him immunity. An unscrupulous President could of taken advantage of been given this power. Biden knows the danger this ruling could bring down the line. Biden stayed out of Trumps various criminal cases, barely if ever commenting on them. Despite all the dishonest whining from the right wing about it political motivated there is not a shred of evidence he was behind any of them. I can't imagine Trump staying off Truth Social platform for 5 seconds talking about the Joe Biden being in court if the roles where reserved. When Biden was  recently interviewed and asked how he would feel if he losses the election in November he replied he could live with himself if he gave it his best shot (and by all means you can call that an ego thing), not even a thought ever entered his mind about calling the outcome of the election into question. When Hunter Biden was convicted recently on a gun charge and tax charges, Joe Biden said he would respect the verdict of the court. I could point to Biden's support of Ukraine as being fundamentally decent, and while I have been critical on his stance over Israel and Palestine, its somewhat more nuanced and humane position than that of many Presidents that have come before him.

In the world of politics there is more to a person's character than just the lies he tells.

And you know this for certain how?

"I can't say the same for Trump"

By the words and policies pursed by both men.

Ok, maybe not stupid, let's call it ignorant, naive, foolish, dumb, absurd, idiotic, laughable, gullible, nonsensical .... pick one.

Well if I have to pick one, I'll go with naive. Everyone is from time to time. But I guess that applies to me when I try to do things like talk common sense and use things like facts and figure thinking any of that matters to you.

You clearly don't learn your lesson, so maybe I should add unintelligent to the above list.

We all know what happens when you "guess" Stav, and if I were you, I would seriously look into something before making extremely naive, stupid and dumb comments like "Islamophobic rants"

Oh my guess was wrong and it was just coincidence that all the same talking points are on a single page of the United with Israel website. Hmmm damn that's some coincidence. Maybe you just skipped them and went straight to the source of their information which are known far right publications with a strong anti-muslim slant.

And yes I'll stand by my Islamophobic rant comment. That's exactly what your bigoted posts where. 

"But yeah I've the delusional dumb and stupid one"

OMG I didn't realise I was debating with a child. "I know you are but what am I". Really is that the intellectual level you're on.?

Jul 10, 2024, 15:09

Stav, just so you know, there's at least one poster on here who nods his head in agreement at just about everything you post . . . well, non-rugby posts anyway

Ireland are going smash South Africa next weekend...COME AT ME BRO!

 . . so don't let these clowns get you down. You destroy their right wing dogma every time but they lack the intelligence or the self-awareness to realize they're embarrassing themselves.

Keep it up my friend.

Oh don't worry about me. I get a laugh out of them more than anything else. I'm apparently Left Wing Beeno...that one's priceless.

Jul 10, 2024, 15:47

"Wasn't a snide comment. I was asking a question"

Ermmmm, lol, really.....thousands wouldn't believe you, but I will.

"So you have tallied up all the lies of each politician and the numbers indicate Biden is more dishonest than the average?"

I don't remember saying that he was, but you just carry on defending how decent he is, whilst his blatant lies go on.

"LOL who are you to judge me"

It really wasn't difficult at all......I will judge any man, just like I have you, who says that someone who acts and behaves like Joe Biden ... is a decent man who clearly knows right from wrong ....

If 1000 adult men read what Ashley Biden put in her diary about Joe Biden showering with her and how that actually affected her traumatically as a young girl, and that it was not appropriate...I have no shadow of a doubt in my mind, that 99% of those same men would say that Joe Biden is not a decent man who knows right from wrong.... so you stick in the 1% dude.

"You don't give a **** that Ashely Biden was continuously traumatized by the leaking of her diary"

More guess work from you hey....., well I actually do, which is why you saying that Joe Biden is a decent man is so seriously fucked up..... you are actually the sick idiot downplaying what she said in her diary and also with what actually happened to her, by calling the perpetrator of what happened, a decent man..... let that sink in.

"and those thoughts and words where then twisted by people like yourself to hurt the people she cared about"

Bollocks....here you go again, defending a man that showered multiple times with his young daughter, which leads her to believe that it could have had something to do with her own personal trauma and demons...... whilst she also admitted that it was not appropriate......swing it anyway you want to Stav...the one person who is actually playing down what actually happened to her is you.... fuck me dude

"You're just a nasty dishonest little hypocrite"

Oh my word..... oh no

LMFAO, pointing your mistakes out seems to be bothering you a tad bit...... relax man, take a chill pill.....I can't help that it comes a bit naturally when you are involved.

"I genuinely have no idea what you mean when you say CIA collusion with the Biden campaign and there is proof of that. What are you talking about here. Link please?"

The internet is your friend

"Except there is zero evidence any business dealings where discussed in any of those interactions."

LOL, sure ok

"Who knows, maybe Biden didn't know at the time or maybe he just wanted to shut down the line of questioning"

LMAO... yeah ok, except there is already a financial trail that has been discovered.... but hold on....yep.... decent Joe probably didn't know.

"Well if I have to pick one, I'll go with naive. Everyone is from time to time. But I guess that applies to me when I try to do things like talk common sense and use things like facts and figure thinking any of that matters to you"

You do you dude.

"And yes I'll stand by my Islamophobic rant comment. That's exactly what your bigoted posts where"

You are completely blind as to what is happening around you .....totally blind... sad actually..... oh well, each to their own.

"OMG I didn't realise I was debating with a child. "I know you are but what am I". Really is that the intellectual level you're on"

I had to lower my level when dealing with you, eish, my bad.

Jul 10, 2024, 17:15

Ermmmm, lol, really.....thousands wouldn't believe you, but I will

Yeah I guess its an alien concept to you, people asking questions instead of just unquestionable agreeing with everything you say.

I don't remember saying that he was, but you just carry on defending how decent he is, whilst his blatant lies go on.

Yeah ignore everything else I said about his comments towards the Supreme court ruling, him respecting the outcome of the election, him respecting the courts ruling in his son's trial etc.

If 1000 adult men read what Ashley Biden put in her diary about Joe Biden showering with her and how that actually affected her traumatically as a young girl, and that it was not appropriate...I have no shadow of a doubt in my mind, that 99% of those same men would say that Joe Biden is not a decent man who knows right from wrong.... so you stick in the 1% dude.

Here's the thing, a thousand men where not supposed to be able to read her personal diary. It's an invasion of her privacy. And here you go again mispresenting what's in the diary. No where did she she say the showers with her father affected her traumatically. She was trying to figure out why she considered herself hyper sexual. was it to do with her being sexually assaulted when she was young, something she believes happened but can't actually remember occurring, hence she was listing out occurrences that could possible indicate that she was.

More guess work from you hey....., well I do, which is why you saying that Joe Biden is a decent man is so seriously fucked up..... you are actually the sick idiot downplaying what she said in her diary and also with what actually happened to her, by calling the perpetrator of what happened, a decent man..... let that sink in.

Bollocks....here you go again, defending a man that showered multiple times with his young daughter, which leads her to believe that it could have had something to do with her own personal trauma and demons...... whilst she also admitted that it was not appropriate......swing it anyway you want to Stav...the one person who is actually playing down what actually happened to her is you.... fuck me dude

Well what I'm about to say is a guess, but I'd imagine if Ashely Biden was to read you comments and see you twisting her own words against her father she would tell you that her father is indeed a decent man, and you're a very dishonest, pathetic and sleazy little man or words to that affect.  

Oh my word..... oh no

LMFAO, pointing your mistakes out seems to be bothering you a tad bit...... relax man, take a chill pill.....I can't help that it comes a bit naturally when you are involved.

That's funny I thought the same thing about your recent posts. I can just feel the desperate need to one up me in your posts. But good luck doing that living in your alt right fantasy world, its largely devoid of facts.

The internet is your friend

Help a guy out here. Its actually a genuine problem when you alt ring wing types flood the internet with conspiracy theories and gobbledygook. It makes it very hard for potentially genuine criticism that has merit to be spotted in the sea of crap you otherwise swim in. It undermines your own credibility.

LOL, sure ok

Stunning rebuttal. Bravo, standing ovation.

LMAO... yeah ok, except there is already a financial trail that has been discovered.... but hold on....yep.... decent Joe probably didn't know.

Forgive me if I don't know the exact timeline, I don't spend all my time stuck in the bowels of alt right sewer system mining for dirt. So there is a financial trail directly to Joe Biden and the money came from illegal activates. Because if there isn't I really don't give a crap about this non story,

You do you dude.

You know what they say, imitation is the sincerest form of flattery.

You are completely blind as to what is happening around you .....totally blind... sad actually..... oh well, each to their own.

No I'm just not a person who believes bigotry is a value of the west. 

I had to lower my level when dealing with you, eish, my bad.

Yeah I suppose when your exposed as a dishonest and sleazy individual, its easier just to double down than look in the mirror. Waiting for the inevitable look in the mirror yourself herp-a-derp response.


Jul 10, 2024, 18:01

Oh don't worry about me. I get a laugh out of them more than anything else. I'm apparently Left Wing Beeno...that one's priceless.

Jul 10, 2024, 18:02

Can’t see anything good on the other side….nothing wrong on your side ….bingo (pardon the pun).



Jul 10, 2024, 18:11

S tav

I know you cannot answer my questions - but tell me how did the FISC  finding that the FBI illegally spied on 278 000 people because  they obiect to stalinist teaching  methods in the USA  being implmented in public schools or they oppose as members of the  Catholic Church  abortion policy of the bureaucrats through regulation af tyer Biden calls the people "Domestic White Terrorists" purely when they peacefully  object to Biden's policies/

Watch the following video and bear in mind that the F BI official is under oath when respondng to questions - 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SWmDQPGEbnc

Do you believe that spying on US citzens represents democracy undermining by the Biden Administration and the Zombie in charge? 

     

    

Jul 10, 2024, 18:41

Can’t see anything good on the other side….nothing wrong on your side ….bingo (pardon the pun).

Did I not Trump credit for Operation Warp Speed, did I not give him credit for the Abraham accords and credit him with expediating the defeat of ISIS and been positive towards his attempts to negotiate with North Korea?. Did I not give credit to the Tories for their support of Ukraine being often the first NATO member to break taboo's on supplying weapon system to Ukraine, likewise I pointed out when Giorgi Meloni spoke out in the Italian parliament against those pushing Russian narratives about the war in Ukraine. Did I literally not just offer some positive views of Nickey Hailey in this very thread just a few posts ago. While I don't particularly support the policies of Republican's there was lot to admire in a war hero like John McCain, and ditto about Mike Pence on January 6th and afterwards.

Did I not acknowledge Biden was partially responsible for inflation in America. I hold him mostly to blame for the Afghanistan withdrawal debacle. His excuse making after his Presidental debate was awful as a well. I've also been critical of some of his decisions regarding Ukraine. Likewise I'm happy to call out left wing people who say Hamas actions on January 6th where justified or the Houthis targeting of international shipping was a legitimate response to Israel's action. Happy to call Irish left wing clowns, like Mick Wallace and Claire Daily who pushed Russian narratives on  Ukraine and similarly I was delighted to see that pound ship left wing version of Nigel Farage, frequent RT guest and all round tosser George Gallaway lose his seat in the UK election (asshole didn't even show up for the results).

Just yesterday in the Irish parliament the leader of the opposition Mary Lou McDonald (who is left wing) brought up a disturbing case of an Irish women detained in Dubai under appalling circumstances to the Irish prime minister Simon Harris (who is right wing) in our parliament yesterday. The prime minister immediately thanked Deputy McDonald for bringing this matter to his attention and was willing to be immediately brief on the women's situation be her and then worked to secure the women's release which he did in one day. I don't care if Simon Harris on the political right wing full credit to him here for his actions here. 

But yeah I'm left wing Beeno. :D


Jul 10, 2024, 23:26

You sound a bit stressed by all this HasBeen 2 despite the risus sardonicus. Perhaps you should provide all those claims in context. Reproduce the originals. I’m willing to be persuaded, I wouldn’t want to do what I attribute to you, now would I? 

Jul 11, 2024, 08:50

"Yeah I guess its an alien concept to you"

The only alien concept here is me trying to understand your logic in general, which won't seem to be happening anytime in the near future.... and I'm good with that.

"Yeah ignore everything else"

Yebo yes....specifically with your posts, it happens more often than not.... great observation skills dude.

"Here's the thing, a thousand men where not supposed to be able to read her personal diary. It's an invasion of her privacy"

Here you go again, excusing the serious issue away, minimizing what happened to this young girl .....

I don't care man..... the information was made public, so that information will now be used to make an informed opinion of the person who was involved in it....period. That person just happened to be her adult father who showered with her more than once, which she herself very clearly and implicitly stated was probably not appropriate .... and also that it could be one of the reasons why she felt traumatized at a young age, or overly sexual.....but that she was not sure........then add to that all these creepy touchy feely things that Joe Biden does with only young pre-pubescent girls.... far too many times already.... and then also his multiple accusations from 7 or 8 adult women regarding his regular innapproriate sexualised behaviour towards them.....then yes, I do not consider him a decent guy.....

So..... let's just agree here and now that your standards of being a decent adult man / father are extremely different to mine..... actually fucking miles apart dude........hence why I maintain that you stay in your 1% because most men would never agree with you, and of that I have no doubt at all... not even slightly.

"And here you go again mispresenting what's in the diary. No where did she she say the showers with her father affected her traumatically"

Well, here is what Ashley Biden said, verbatim.

"Hyper-sexualized at a young age, what is this due to?, was I molested. I think so - I can't remember specifics but I do remember trauma - I remember not liking the Woolzacks house, I remember having sex with friends @ a young age, showers w / my dad ( probably not appropriate )"

Now, if you still want to stand there and categorically say that Joe Biden was not involved with Ashley Biden's thought processes or reasonings regarding why she felt trauma at this time in her life, and why she was overtly sexual, you are either incredibly dumb, exceptionally stupid or extremely dishonest.... it has to be one.

The very fact that Ashley Biden even included her own father in this very specific sentence about sexual behaviour and trauma clearly shows you that in some way shape or form, she attaches those showers with her father in some way to what trauma or over sexualized feelings that she was dealing with at the time....FACT.  

Just admit you got it wrong .... 

"pathetic and sleazy little man or words to that affect"

This is precisely what I would think most men would think of you for calling a father that showers with his daughter multiple times, a decent guy ..... the well known young girl sniffer and feeler is a real decent chap....if the shoe fits..... your qualifying criteria or standards on what constitutes "decent" to you.... are at gutter level dude, fuck me, I expected a bit more.

"That's funny I thought the same thing about your recent posts"

The one critical mistake that you always seem to be making, is that you actually think or believe that I give a shit about what you think..... lol dude.... just lol.

"Help a guy out here. Its actually a genuine problem when you alt ring wing types flood the internet with conspiracy theories and gobbledygook. It makes it very hard for potentially genuine criticism that has merit to be spotted in the sea of crap you otherwise swim in. It undermines your own credibility."

"Merit"... that's where I stopped reading....

"Stunning rebuttal. Bravo, standing ovation."

Shot bro, coming from you, I feel this deeply.

"Forgive me if I don't know the exact timeline, I don't spend all my time stuck in the bowels of alt right sewer system mining for dirt. So there is a financial trail directly to Joe Biden and the money came from illegal activates. Because if there isn't I really don't give a crap about this non story,"

Ok

"You know what they say, imitation is the sincerest form of flattery"

Lol, the irony

"No I'm just not a person who believes bigotry is a value of the west."

So .... blind and dumb..... got it

"Yeah I suppose when your exposed as a dishonest and sleazy individual, its easier just to double down than look in the mirror"

Man .... you just wouldn't believe the coincidence here..... 100% true story, I swear Stav......I read that sentence of yours above, and the only posters name that jumped into my head immediately .....was you..... and I mean it was quick.

What are the chances hey...... I mean it was bloody instant dude...lol, no ways hey..

Jul 11, 2024, 10:44

You sound a bit stressed by all this HasBeen 2 despite the risus sardonicus. Perhaps you should provide all those claims in context. Reproduce the originals. I’m willing to be persuaded, I wouldn’t want to do what I attribute to you, now would I? 

Is there a search function on this forum?

The only alien concept here is me trying to understand your logic in general, which won't seem to be happening anytime in the near future.... and I'm good with that.

So you don't understand the logic of asking a question to get an answer. Hmmm.

Yebo yes....specifically with your posts, it happens more often than not.... great observation skills dude.

LOL you're good at ignoring stuff. Like lets ignore Donald Trump actions that led to a riot on January 6th so we can focus on Nancy Pelosi being at fault even though she wasn't in charge of security.. Must be great at being able to ignore stuff you don't agree with it and reality in general, but not very honest. 

Here you go again, excusing the serious issue away, minimizing what happened to this young girl .....

I don't care man..... the information was made public, so that information will now be used to make an informed opinion of the person who was involved in it....period. 

That person just happened to be her adult father who showered with her more than once, which she herself very clearly and implicitly stated was probably not appropriate .... and also that it could be one of the reasons why she felt traumatized at a young age, or overly sexual.....but that she was not sure

Okay allow me to quote parts of Ashely Biden's letter to the judge involved in the case regarding her diary.

“I am deeply saddened that I even have to write this letter because my personal private journal was stolen and sold for profit,”

“The point of the theft, I assume, was to be able to peddle grotesque lies by distorting my stream-of-consciousness thoughts,”

(referring to the theft of her diary)"constitute one of the most heinous forms of bullying, not to mention a complete violation of my privacy and personal dignity.”

“After being the victim of a crime in my early twenties, I developed PTSD,” 

“The journal that was stolen was part of my efforts to heal. I am a private citizen, targeted only because my father happened to be running to be President. In other words, the extensive work I have done to move past my trauma was undone by Ms. Harris’s actions.”

“The defendant’s actions have created a constant environment of anxiety, fear, and intimidation in which my innermost thoughts are constantly distorted and manipulated.”

“because of the publicity it drew — exactly as Ms. Harris intended — I am constantly re-traumatized by it.”

“I will forever have to deal with the fact that my personal journal can be viewed online,”

“Repeatedly, I hear others grossly misinterpret my once-private writings and lob false accusations that defame my character and those of the people I love.”

“Her actions were not only re-traumatizing to me, but constituted a horrific trauma in and of themselves. This ongoing harm is a direct result of Ms. Harris’s intentional actions,”

This is why you're such a morally bankrupt individual and hypocrite. You don't care a hoot about Ashley Biden's well being, you're just using her as a political football to attack her dad and you and those like you who do so don't don't give a f**k that s actually causing her to be constantly retraumatized. 

.....then add to that all these creepy touchy feely things that Joe Biden does with only young pre-pubescent girls.... far too many times already

Your such a sleazeball. This is pure gutter rag trash.

and then also his multiple accusations from 7 or 8 adult women regarding his regular innapproriate sexualised behaviour towards them.....then yes, I do not consider him a decent guy.....

Biden overstepped the mark with those women, he hails from a generation where being touchy-feely was more acceptable. He admitted to this and gave a sort of wishy washy apology. Of those 8 women 7 of them said while they did feel uncomfortable with his actions they did not think it amounted to sexual assault or something worth pressing charges over. One women did make a far more serious accusation, but there was several issues regarding the credibility of her claims, not least of which she has since defected to Russia.

So..... let's just agree here and now that your standards of being a decent adult man / father are extremely different to mine..... actually fucking miles apart dude........hence why I maintain that you stay in your 1% because most men would never agree with you, and of that I have no doubt at all... not even slightly.

Okay I'm going try and be generous here. Where you on are on the political spectrum is on the fringes of the right, you views are not what most people have. There is a reason why the media and both sides of the political spectrum with the exception of far right fringe news organisations have not pushed the story in the way you wanted. Because they know how awfully sleazy it would make them look. Hell even Trump didn't want to touch it with a barge pole.

So while most men would agree showering with their child is not appropriate, they would also be able to subjectively leave aside their political bias and emotions and be able to judge these claims on their own merits and see what these accusations are. A sleazy exploitative hit piece.

Well, here is what Ashley Biden said, verbatim.

"Hyper-sexualized at a young age, what is this due to?, was I molested. I think so - I can't remember specifics but I do remember trauma - I remember not liking the Woolzacks house, I remember having sex with friends @ a young age, showers w / my dad ( probably not appropriate )"

Now, if you still want to stand there and categorically say that Joe Biden was not involved with Ashley Biden's thought processes or reasonings regarding why she felt trauma at this time in her life, and why she was overtly sexual, you are either incredibly dumb, exceptionally stupid or extremely dishonest.... it has to be one.

The very fact that Ashley Biden even included her own father in this very specific sentence about sexual behaviour and trauma clearly shows you that in some way shape or form, she attaches those showers with her father in some way to what trauma or over sexualized feelings that she was dealing with at the time....FACT.  

Just admit you got it wrong .... 

Read Ashley's statement to the judge that I've posted before. Tell me honestly do you think Ashley Biden would agree with you here. 

This is precisely what I would think most men would think of you for calling a father that showers with his daughter multiple times, a decent guy ..... the well known young girl sniffer and feeler is a real decent chap....if the shoe fits..... your qualifying criteria or standards on what constitutes "decent" to you.... are at gutter level dude, fuck me, I expected a bit more.

You expect everyone to be in the same far right bubble you occupy, overly emotionally and completely devoid of critical thinking. Shame the real world is far more interesting.

The one critical mistake that you always seem to be making, is that you actually think or believe that I give a shit about what you think..... lol dude.... just lol.

Yet you keep on responding.

Merit"... that's where I stopped reading....

You have to go to the dictionary or something?

Shot bro, coming from you, I feel this deeply.

How witty, still not answering the question though.

Ok

So no evidence of illegal activity then?

Lol, the irony

Are we back to I know you are but what am I already?

So .... blind and dumb..... got it

No you're just a bigot.

Man .... you just wouldn't believe the coincidence here..... 100% true story, I swear Stav......I read that sentence of yours above, and the only posters name that jumped into my head immediately .....was you..... and I mean it was quick.

What are the chances hey...... I mean it was bloody instant dude...lol, no ways hey..

Am I dealing with a toddler here? 





Jul 11, 2024, 11:45

Stav, just so you know, there's at least one two posters on here who nods his head in agreement at just about everything you post

Good job.

Jul 11, 2024, 13:30

"This is why you're such a morally bankrupt individual and hypocrite. You don't care a hoot about Ashley Biden's well being, you're just using her as a political football to attack her dad and you and those like you who do so don't don't give a f**k that s actually causing her to be constantly retraumatized"

And here you go ..... again.... totally overlooking what happened to her as a little girl...... sick dude, sick ....just so you can try and convince others and portray her father as a decent guy ....disgusting.

You of all people should never be talking about morals dude, because your judgement of people with morals is at about gutter level.

"Your such a sleazeball. This is pure gutter rag trash."

Shame dude.... 

Joe Biden hardly ever even makes the effort to ask any of the young boys what their names are...... such is his fixation on young girls......sad but true...

"Biden overstepped the mark with those women"

No shit Sherlock..... just like he also overstepped the mark with taking his dad duties just a little too far by showering with his young daughter more than once ....

"he hails from a generation where being touchy-feely was more acceptable"

Scary man.....you are actually getting quite adept at sugar coating and easily explaining away possible overtly sexual predator behaviour.... it's now a becoming a trend with you..... sick dude, just sick ....morally bankrupt, lol.

"So while most men would agree showering with their child is not appropriate, they would also be able to subjectively leave aside their political bias and emotions and be able to judge these claims on their own merits and see what these accusations are. A sleazy exploitative hit piece"

Sleazy is the definition of showering with your daughter multiple times.... just admit it, and no decent man or father does that.... period.

"Read Ashley's statement to the judge that I've posted before. Tell me honestly do you think Ashley Biden would agree with you here"

You are so incredibly naive......it is actually very embarrassing .....

When your father, who is the president of the United States, has just been implicated in a story that involves him showering with his young daughter, and he has a very well known history and stigma attached to him already regarding what woman have said about him and his excessive sexual behaviour towards women, and also how many videos have shown him to be absolutely creepy towards children.... then yes, I have no doubt at all that Ashley Biden would either come out and say some things herself, or be asked to make a statement by her dad's people, to now take the heat off her father..... in fact I have no doubt at all that that is what happened ....the media and the campaign teams will spin absolutely anything, just like with Trump.... so stop with the heroics.

What Ashley wrote back then, came from her true inner most feelings, which is why she spoke about those showers with her father in the very same sentence that she mentioned the trauma and overly sexual feelings she was experiencing at that specific time in her life.

It's basically like saying, would she have put that information in her diary knowing that one day it could or would be used against her father who would be the current sitting president of the USA.....obviously not......which is precisely why I take that kind of information which made it's way to the public so serious, to make an informed decision of just how decent of a person Joe Biden was and is now....

"You expect everyone to be in the same far right bubble you occupy, overly emotionally and completely devoid of critical thinking. Shame the real world is far more interesting"

Says the guys who doesn't even know what is happening on his own doorstep, lol.

The same guy who put any and all Trump supporters into one group and constantly ridiculed them all, thinking he knew better than all of them combined.....

"Yet you keep on responding"

Making you look stupid makes my day far more entertaining.... it really does .... I'm smiling now.....another true confession Stav.....pinkie promise.

"You have to go to the dictionary or something?"

LMAO... says the guy that makes more typos than almost all the posters on here.....Sssstru

"How witty, still not answering the question though"

Yep

"So no evidence of illegal activity then?"

Yep

"Are we back to I know you are but what am I already?"

More irony

"No you're just a bigot"

This cut me deeply, lol ...... still stinging

"Am I dealing with a toddler here?"

I just had to be honest with you Stav..... pinky promise :D

Jul 11, 2024, 14:24

And here you go ..... again.... totally overlooking what happened to her as a little girl...... sick dude, sick ....just so you can try and convince others and portray her father as a decent guy ....disgusting.

You of all people should never be talking about morals dude, because your judgement of people

I'm not the one exploiting what happened to Ashley Biden, you are.

Shame dude.... 

Joe Biden hardly ever even makes the effort to ask any of the young boys what their names are...... such is his fixation on young girls......sad but true...

Oh look he responds with yet more sleaze.

No shit Sherlock..... just like he also overstepped the mark with taking his dad duties just a little too far by showering with his young daughter more than once ....

Actually your obsession with Joe Biden showering with his daughter is getting a bit creepy now. I think you need to stop consuming so much fringe alt right media and go out and get some air maybe talk to some normal people. Might be good for you.

Scary man.....you are actually getting quite adept at sugar coating and easily explaining away possible overtly sexual predator behaviour.... it's now a becoming a trend with you..... sick dude, just sick ....morally bankrupt, lol.

Yet amazingly I've never seen you criticize anyone defending Trump's grab them by the pussy comment as just men's locker room talk. In fact you repeatedly take the side of a rapist. But yeah my morals are questionable.

Sleazy is the definition of showering with your daughter multiple times.... just admit it, and no decent man or father does that.... period.

Sleazy is exploiting a person's deeply personal thoughts relating to sexual matter to hurt the people she cares about just to score political points irrespective of the effect that has on the effected person.

You are so incredibly naive......it is actually very embarrassing .....

When your father, who is the president of the United States, has just been implicated in a story that involves him showering with his young daughter, and he has a very well known history and stigma attached to him already regarding what woman have said about him and his excessive sexual behaviour towards women, and also how many videos have shown him to be absolutely creepy towards children.... then yes, I have no doubt at all that Ashley Biden would either come out and say some things herself, or be asked to make a statement by her dad's people, to now take the heat off her father..... in fact I have no doubt at all that that is what happened ....the media and the campaign teams will spin absolutely anything, just like with Trump.... so stop with the heroics.

What Ashley wrote back then, came from her true inner most feelings, which is why she spoke about those showers with her father in the very same sentence that she mentioned the trauma and overly sexual feelings she was experiencing at that specific time.

It's basically like saying, would she have put that information in her diary knowing that one day it could or would be used against her father who would be the current sitting president of the USA.....obviously not......which is precisely why I take that kind of information which made it's way to the public so serious, to make an informed decision of just how decent of a person Joe Biden was and is now....

LOL I called it in a previous thread. How do I know you'd end up falling back on "they got to her" conspiracy. So typical of the alt right. Can't debate on facts so they think they are free to just insert any conspiracy they want without evidence. Must be wonderful where you can live in a world where the truth can be anything you want it to be.

Says the guys who doesn't even know what is happening on his own doorstep, lol.

LOL you just except everyone to be as bigoted as you. Thankfully most people are not. 

The same guy who put any and all Trump supporters into one group and constantly ridiculed them all, thinking he knew better than all of them combined.....

Really where did I put them all in one group. I think many people will vote for Trump with considerably discomfort but they are doing so out of loyalty to Republicanism or its simply the way they have always voted, its their background and what they have been brought up to believe (that applies to Democrat voters as well). Each side also has a fear of the other side and that fear has long existed before Trump was a thing. I also think a fair chunk of Republican congressmen and senators really don't like Trump to outright despising him but are simply going along with supporting him because they don't believe they can win without him.

I ridicule many Trump supporters because so many of their arguments are just so farcical they can't be taken seriously and deserve nothing but ridicule. I mean its just absurd that anyone can still think the 2020 election was stolen.

Making you look stupid makes my day far more entertaining.... it really does .... I'm smiling now.....another true confession Stav.....pinkie promise.

Ah is this your version of the Moz classic, case closed? 

LMAO... says the guy that makes more typos than almost all the posters on here.....Sssstru

Yes I'm up there with Mike. A second Moz classic tactic. Switch the focus to grammar and spelling and hope that will distract people from the lack of substance in one's argument.

Yep

Yep

Ah this is cute. Still dodging though.

This cut me deeply, lol ...... still stinging

Well you see not everyone's like you, bigotry isn't something most people are proud of.


Jul 11, 2024, 16:43

I prefer the term HasAnger-guy the natural foil to HasBeen-ou. Use that please. And just put up the quotes. There’s a good leftie.

Jul 11, 2024, 16:51

 Stav

Just for your infomation over tfhe last ten years in opinion polls in the USA indicated that 82% of the voters believe that people should provide proof of identity and US Citizenship - as well as residential addresses - as well as providing proof of identity when they actually voted.    Despite that very clear opinion om tjhe issue the Democratic Party does not support the opinion of the overwhelmng opinion of the voters n the USA,

In a court case in Californa proof was provided to the Court that there were 5,8 dead nad missing voters on the California voters roll and the Judhed ruled that the names should be removed from the cvoters role.   The reponse of the California lergislature was to pass a law to the effect that voters names can only be removed from the voters role if they apply in writing in a sworm statement they want such a removal.   One would wonder how the dead would submit such a sworn statement - but the 5,8 million people remained on the voters roll.    California and a number other Democratic Party controlled states has similar conmditions on he roll wide open to election fraud,

In Demcoratc Party controlled states there is also  practice that destroy vote security totally.  The States sent out blank votes to all voters on the voter roll and when votes cannot be delivered or where people died the insecure blank votes are lying around everywhere and can be used by anyboidy to vote in the name of the dead and missing voters without any need to identify themselves.

There were many fraud cases before US couyrts since 2020 - have a look at the following website:-

https://www.heritage.org/voterfraud/search

No wonder in opinion polls on the USA 2020 61% of the voters believe there were voter fraud in the 2020 elecion - of whith 18% believe that it has not been proved that fraud would have changed the outcomr of the 2020 election.   

So the difference is that Trump stated what 42% of the vcoters claimed to be the case and the 18% believe differently on the issue of proof that fraud was widespread eough to change the election outcome.  .

               

Jul 11, 2024, 17:04

Na Left Wing Beeno is way funnier.


The comparison your making between me and Beeno is such a hilariously transparent attempt at trolling it genuinely gave me a good chuckle.

Regarding quotes, well a search function would be useful so I could go back and find what I said. 

Jul 11, 2024, 17:05

There is a de facto search function. For example in May you posted this:


May 17, 2024, 12:50

Two geriatrics and a nutjob, America sure knows how to pick its Presidential candidates.

Jul 12, 2024, 08:31

"I'm not the one exploiting what happened to Ashley Biden, you are"

No, you just want to keep pretending like it never happened...... what a real "decent" chap you are.

"Actually your obsession with Joe Biden showering with his daughter is getting a bit creepy now"

Bwahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha

This statement just came from the one guy who has defended and sugar coated every single creepy and sexual incident that Joe Biden has been involved in, from his daughter, to kids, to multiple women accusing him...... every single one of these incidents.....LMAO.... that is what is creepy dude.

"I think you need to stop consuming so much fringe alt right media and go out and get some air maybe talk to some normal people. Might be good for you."

LMFAO

This statement just came from the one guy who posts day and night, from early hours... to late at night...at all times on most weekends as well.... and you want to talk to me about getting out for some air and talking to people.

Bwahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha, you are bloody hilarious dude.

Ok....I challenge you.....find some posts Stav..... in the last few years, where I have posted in the early hours of the morning, or even any time at night, or any time at all on the weekends..... go on Stav..... at "any time" on the weekend or early morning or late at night.... go for it....

You won't.....

However....... you on the other hand Stav......you are all over the bloody place here, you probably eat your breakfast and supper whilst you are typing out your responses.....at every time of the day...and night.....during the week.... on the weekends.... all the time........

And here you are...... telling me to go out and get some air and talk to people..... sheeesh dude, do you talk to anyone else besides the people on here....LMAO.

Bwahahahahahahahahahaha........ man this made me laugh on such a awesome Friday..... 

"Can't debate on facts so they think they are free to just insert any conspiracy they want without evidence"

Works both ways dude, where are your facts, and where can you conclusively prove that Ashley Biden made that statement completely out of her own free will, with no pressure at all from outside sources..... you can't and you won't you stupid bloody idiot.... just look at yourself here.....taking a stance about conspiracies without any proof at all from your own side....sheeesh man, no ways are you this dumb surely.

"Yet amazingly I've never seen you criticize anyone defending Trump's grab them by the pussy comment as just men's locker room talk. In fact you repeatedly take the side of a rapist. But yeah my morals are questionable."

This is exactly where and why I question your morals dude.....you are now comparing what one man verbally said to another man about women, to one man actually physically doing something with a young girl.... quite disgusting actually..... in fact it's fucked up.

"Sleazy is exploiting a person's deeply personal thoughts relating to sexual matter to hurt the people she cares about"

This is where your incredible stupidity rises to the surface ....yet again.....

So..... with your adult logic here, no confidential information, personal written thoughts, must ever be used by anyone, or any organization, to either form an opinion, or to start criminal or civil proceedings against someone, because this was not supposed to be made public knowledge....

I see....so your young daughter writes in her diary that their teacher at school, that she really cares about, is doing something inappropriate with her in class, and you either accidently or deliberately come across this very personal information, and you now won't or refuse to act on that information, or form an opinion of that teacher from reading this very personal information,..because...apparently...... according to your very stupid, immature and nonsensical logic.... it was your child's inner most personal thoughts in her diary and it should never have come to your attention anyway..... so you would now be guilty of exploiting your daughter if you either did anything about it or formed an opinion of that teacher........are you seriously this stupid, and is this how you would parent...... bloody hell dude.

"Really where did I put them all in one group"

Oh please.... I won't even bother

"Ah is this your version of the Moz classic, case closed?"

Not at all, just a very honest answer..... in fact this raised another smile, thanks.

"Well you see not everyone's like you, bigotry isn't something most people are proud of"

Neither is stupidity, but you seem pretty proud of it.

Jul 12, 2024, 09:24

DA

I am still waiting for any real proof of what Stav is saying is true.  All coming out of him is routinely far-leftist  lies.    Anywhere .he si confronted with proven facts he denies that it is factual and is entirely based on propaganda.

What he and other members believe there are one common fact in place - any opposition proving that the situation prevailing is the USA is that any opposition to gth e Biden regime must be lies because they themselves believe in the Goebbels principle  - namely if lies are repeated often enough it will become a DP truth,

   

   

Jul 12, 2024, 09:41

Mike

For a while now, I have just been having quite a bit of fun on here .... I really have....just throwing comments and jibes out here and there... snippets....baiting a bit..... trolling here and there with a thread or a post...... I have been a bit serious at times in the past, sarcastic at other times, joking at times as well..... but I never take what happens on here too seriously.... because you genuinely can't.

I do however realize that the one genuine and honest mistake that I did make, was giving people like Stav way more credit than they deserve.... but hey, it is what it is.... and I can openly admit that.

Jul 12, 2024, 12:15

No, you just want to keep pretending like it never happened...... what a real "decent" chap you are.

You know I never pretended it didn't happen, I'm just not obsessed with alt right tabloid smut.

Bwahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha

This statement just came from the one guy who has defended and sugar coated every single creepy and sexual incident that Joe Biden has been involved in, from his daughter, to kids, to multiple women accusing him...... every single one of these incidents.....LMAO.... that is what is creepy dude.

You just unquestionable accept every smear thrown at Biden. Did I ever throw up similar accusations when those photo's of a 15 year old Ivanka Trump sitting on her father's lap appeared, Trump's comments about dating his daughter or Trump's connection to Epstein. No because they where similarly low class smears. But you can't apply any critical thinking when it comes to Biden, you see what you want to see. 

LMFAO

This statement just came from the one guy who posts day and night, from early hours... to late at night...at all times on most weekends as well.... and you want to talk to me about getting out for some air and talking to people.

Bwahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha, you are bloody hilarious dude.

Ok....I challenge you.....find some posts Stav..... in the last few years, where I have posted in the early hours of the morning, or even any time at night, or any time at all on the weekends..... go on Stav..... at "any time" on the weekend or early morning or late at night.... go for it....

You won't.....

However....... you on the other hand Stav......you are all over the bloody place here, you probably eat your breakfast and supper whilst you are typing out your responses.....at every time of the day...and night.....during the week.... on the weekends.... all the time........

And here you are...... telling me to go out and get some air and talk to people..... sheeesh dude, do you talk to anyone else besides the people on here....LMAO.

Bwahahahahahahahahahaha........ man this made me laugh on such a awesome Friday..... 

Okay now this is getting very creepy, I didn't realize you're that obsessed with me. Do you want to the know the time of my bowel movements as well?

Works both ways dude, where are your facts, and where can you conclusively prove that Ashley Biden made that statement completely out of her own free will, with no pressure at all from outside sources..... you can't and you won't you stupid bloody idiot.... just look at yourself here.....taking a stance about conspiracies without any proof at all from your own side....sheeesh man, no ways are you this dumb surely.

OMG another one that think's a person is required to produce evidence of a negative. Do you not understand how much of an endless rabbit hole that line of thinking leads too. I could say prove to me that when Ashley Biden said those diary entries where real that she said that completely out of her own free will, how do you a know a sinister right wing conspiracy didn't threaten her or her family and force her into a false confession.  You of course can't and we could both push an endless number of claims neither of us can disprove but just because neither of us can disprove the claim doesn't mean the claims have any merit. If your making the claim that Ashely Biden's letter to the judge was not written under her own free will , then you provide evidence to back up the claim otherwise to quote Christopher Hitchens  "what can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence"

This is exactly where and why I question your morals dude.....you are now comparing what one man verbally said to another man about women, to one man actually physically doing something with a young girl.... quite disgusting actually..... in fact it's fucked up.

Let compare Biden and Trump

Biden showered with this daughter on at least more than one occasion. I consider that inappropriate behaviour as do most people. However this is not a crime and his daughter has not sought to press charges against him for any form of abuse. On the contrary his daughter seems to be on very good terms with him.

Biden is alleged to have behaved inappropriately around children in a sexual manner. The footage presented to back up this claim proves no such thing its simply a case of opponents of Joe Biden seeing what they want to see. And not matter how outraged you act or now many times you want to call my morals into question that doesn't change the facts. No parent of the children involved has come forward to press charges or even complained about Biden's behaviour.

7 women have come forward and claimed Biden's behaviour around them made them uncomfortable but none of them felt is amounted to sexual assault or pressed charges. Biden  apologised for that behaviour.

One women claimed Biden did sexually assault her. But no charges where ever pressed. The credibility of this women's claims is under question. She had motive to be angry with the Biden campaign and where the alleged assault took place was in an a very public place where it would of been very unlikely for such an assault not to have been noticed, yet no witnesses verified her story. There is several other potential issues with her allegations. There is also the fact that subsequently the women by her own admission had defected to Russia.

Now lets look at Trump

Trump is on record as having made an extremely sexist comment regarding women.

There has been at least 25 women since the 1970's who have accused Trump of various form of sexual inappropriateness/abuse towards them. I haven't really looked into these claims so I have no idea how credible these accusations are.

He was convicted in a civil court of sexual assaulting a women. The judge clarified that while Trump was found guilty of sexual assault, in the colloquially sense Trump raped the women.

Just to underline the point.

TRUMP IS A RAPIST.

And this is the man you have repeatedly defended by questioning the legitimacy of his conviction. For someone that proclaims to be so outraged when it comes to the potential sexual abuse of children, you take a position that Trump should not have been convicted without physical evidence or on testimony alone, yet  seem to be completely unaware that if that was the position the law had to take then thousands of child sex offenders would never have been convicted.

This is where your incredible stupidity rises to the surface ....yet again.....

So..... with your adult logic here, no confidential information, personal written thoughts, must ever be used by anyone, or any organization, to either form an opinion, or to start criminal or civil proceedings against someone, because this was not supposed to be made public knowledge....

Of course not. It depends on the situation. For example if confidential documents came to light of say corporate wrong doing or illegal activity then absolutely that should be able to be used to launch court proceedings. But you can't start criminal or civil proceedings if their isn't a law been broken or in the case of sexual abuse you can't charge someone if no one has pressed charges against them. You are of course entitled to an opinion as is everyone but that doesn't have any bearing on the law.

I see....so your young daughter writes in her diary that their teacher at school, that she really cares about, is doing something inappropriate with her in class, and you either accidently or deliberately come across this very personal information, and you now won't or refuse to act on that information, or form an opinion of that teacher from reading this very personal

 information,..because...apparently...... according to your very stupid, immature and nonsensical logic.... it was your child's inner most personal thoughts in her diary and it should never have come to your attention anyway..... so you would now be guilty of exploiting your daughter if you either did anything about it or formed an opinion of that teacher........are you seriously this stupid, and is this how you would parent...... bloody hell dude.

Allow this to phrase this more accurately.

I see....so your adult daughter writes in her diary that during her childhood a teacher at school, that she really cared about, did something inappropriate with her in class, and you either accidently or deliberately come across this very personal information, and you now won't or refuse to act on that information, or form an opinion of that teacher from reading this very personal information.

No I wouldn't not act, what I do is I'd very gently ask my daughter is she wants to talk about it and go from there, I'd tell her that if she feels she wants to talk about it she of course has my strictest confidence and my subsequent actions would depend on her response.

If she told me there was something to this and she felt like she wanted to pursue the matter legally she would have my full support. If she told me there was nothing much too it and she rather just move on, I'd respect that. If she told me that there was something too it but she rather not talk about it, doesn't feel like she can talk about it now or wants to move on I'd respect her decision and I tell her I'd always be there to support her if that ever changes her mind about that.

In the last two situations what I'd absolutely not do is go against her wishes and go public with the information,  leading to whole media frenzy and endless gossip around her, having details of her sex life go public etc and have her repeatedly retraumatized.

I'd put my daughters well being first at all times. I wouldn't put my anger first. I wouldn't use her to hurt other people.

Oh please.... I won't even bother

Oh look, another non answer. Maybe you should of been a politician.

Not at all, just a very honest answer..... in fact this raised another smile, thanks.

I was right so, case closed!

Neither is stupidity, but you seem pretty proud of it.

A real zinger there. Tell me again why we should be focusing on Nancy Pelosi actions on January 6th and not Trumps? 

I do however realize that the one genuine and honest mistake that I did make, was giving people like Stav way more credit than they deserve.... but hey, it is what it is.... and I can openly admit that.

And they accuse me of being angry 8-)

Jul 12, 2024, 13:43

Poor stavASS thinks by calling himself Left Wing Beeno gives him credibility.

Hahahahahaha what a jackass. 

Jul 12, 2024, 13:58

Yes that's exactly why I'm calling myself that Beeno :D

Jul 12, 2024, 14:07

Right Wing Beeno derides Left Wing Beeno…..perhaps we should give you two nutters your own exclusive  section.

Jul 12, 2024, 15:51

"TRUMP IS A RAPIST.

And this is the man you have repeatedly defended by questioning the legitimacy of his conviction. For someone that proclaims to be so outraged when it comes to the potential sexual abuse of children, you take a position that Trump should not have been convicted without physical evidence or on testimony alone, yet  seem to be completely unaware that if that was the position the law had to take then thousands of child sex offenders would never have been convicted.


They also had to change the statute of limitations to bring the case ...just for this one case...then they changed it back... in a civil court...take the horse sh!t out of your eyes PULEEEZZZ! 

Jul 12, 2024, 16:01

"A real zinger there. Tell me again why we should be focusing on Nancy Pelosi actions on January 6th and not Trumps? "

Because Trump did nothing wrong... AND he suggested sendining in the National Guard...just for in case...Pelosi refused...they wanted this...a stick to beat Trump with, but it ain't working, most people ain't that daft...it's obvious for everyone who don't have MSM horse shit in their eyes...clear psyop. 

Jul 12, 2024, 17:00

They also had to change the statute of limitations to bring the case ...just for this one case...then they changed it back... in a civil court...take the horse sh!t out of your eyes PULEEEZZZ! 

Afraid you're the one with something in your eye

https://www.yahoo.com/news/assessing-claims-york-changed-laws-163544798.html?guccounter=1&guce_referrer=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuZ29vZ2xlLmllLw&guce_referrer_sig=AQAAADK4JQqZchhuW-O0xOS-OdBvlKeRwwjXIiKlM174advYQp4WK2v2anmwY1yXKJ0MB9fH2ZkwTAPLnlHDmnd4bksMDQ_QgqrqHL2PxE-d0zq0nIfgp0Nv8jnN8xGB-igRZ3WbmxCwGbSatQibk_47unEK9y8JX1BqHisNJoTRsFSY

Because Trump did nothing wrong... AND he suggested sendining in the National Guard...just for in case...Pelosi refused

More crap

https://www.politico.com/live-updates/2024/06/27/biden-trump-first-presidential-debate/trump-jan-6-national-guard-fact-check-00165615

...they wanted this...a stick to beat Trump with, but it ain't working, most people ain't that daft...it's obvious for everyone who don't have MSM horse shit in their eyes...clear psyop. 

Sorry Draad but what your saying is just bonkers. The absolute complete and utter polar opposite to reality. 


Jul 13, 2024, 00:10

Kinda like Russian collusion….Left Wing Beeno is all over right wing conspiracies, but gobbles up left wing nonsense like it’s Beluga caviar.

Jul 13, 2024, 06:44

LMAO

Politico fcact-chec king has always  produced 100% BS.   Mozart mentioned the Russian Hoax - but what about the Biden protection record,   There has been reports on mental and physical deterioration of iden - even when Special Council Hur came out with his report in which he  proved that Biden was gulity of using classified documnts providing  them to his biographer to be included in the book he was writing, 

There was a remark that he would not ecommnd criminal charges against Biden as he would not be find  to be mentally incapacitated. and not able to understand what he was doing. Politico was  part of  the conspiracy not to accepting the factual situuation that was ongoing since 2020. 

Jul 13, 2024, 08:59

Left wing nonsense such as?

Jul 13, 2024, 10:11

Biden writing a book ............ Putin bombing a children's hospital, ffs oom, get a grip !

Jul 13, 2024, 10:24

The  Russian collution BS  based on lies started by the Democrats is just about obvious and the claims of Trump bein g a threat to D emocracy is about as BS anyone can come up with,   

ASnybody who opposes the Democrats are always ubnder aqttack.   \

The Hunter Biden laptop being Rusian Disinformation.

Trump is responsible for the Ppen Border Policy Biden initiated

Inflation was 9% when Biden took over - it waqs 1,5%.   Inflation is now down while in reality is a lie punted by the media.

 There waan insurrection attaempt on January 6 - so try and found out what an insurrfecxion really  is,

Hiding Biden's physical and mental deterioration - both physaical and mental for 4 years was lying about reality.    Biden from 2020 was hidden from exposing himself by comnstgant claiming that reports on hsi degterioration was a lie.   Same was the reacrtion about the Hur findings and propaganda was it was a political hit job.   

Hiding the crime crisis from public scrutiny wss op-en situation.   When the 2020 riots took place the media insisted it was peaceful and not violent.   So 46 innocent people was murdered and over a thouand  police officers (with the rioters using  fire-arms and Molotov cocktails) never happened,  

Tha the Covid virus started at the non-existent wet market in Wuhan (there only was a fish market in existence)  and the denial that the USA funded  gain-of-function reseach undertaken at the Wuhan Lab was always  stem to media denials.

There are no bio-labs in Ukraine - while it was just repeated lies of the Democrats  of the labs do not exist .   Nuland in the nd had to admit the labs aree existing,  

WHENEVER ANYBODY EXPOSE DEMOCRATIC PARTY LIES AQND MALADMINISTRATION THE MEDIA PRETENDED IT DOES NOT EXIST.   

       .


Jul 13, 2024, 10:28

SB

Get a life - Putin has nothinag to do with  US Politics - other than he publicly supported Biden election campaign in 2020.    

Jul 13, 2024, 10:28

SB

Get a life - Putin has nothinag to do with  US Politics - other than he publicly supported Biden election campaign in 2020.    

Jul 13, 2024, 10:47

Mike decimating clowns like stavVASS has become a daily feature.

Draad has stepped up his game and now sees how much BS these nutters sprout. 

Congrats to DA for some out standing posts. 

Plumster also gets it. 

I of course congratulate myself in getting it right from the beginning. 

Mozzietard sure is a confused coot. Be guided by Mike Mozzie and remember to follow the advise of Haley and support Trump. Not Biden but Trump. Got it? 

It's great to see well informed oaks smashing the hapless dumbass frot five. 

Keep up the good work oaks. 

Jul 13, 2024, 11:20

I hope I'm one of the frot 5. When it comes to pollitics I'm not really aligned to anyone - on this board or elsewhere - but I'm more inclined toward the likes of Sharkbok, Blobbok, Stav and Dense than I am to the likes of ou Maaik, Baboon-ou, DumbAss, ButtPlug and Squeaky Toy.

If those are the frot 4 and it's me making it a frot 5 then I'm very comfortable with that. Thanks.

Jul 13, 2024, 11:42

"Sorry Draad but what your saying is just bonkers. The absolute complete and utter polar opposite to reality. "

So why wasn't he charged and convicted of instigating the "insurrection"?...why the need for the other horse manure lawfare against him if they could simply charge him with an actual serious crime? Why isn't he in jail yet?

Jul 13, 2024, 11:48

Oops, sorry, my bad...

"In 2022, New York passed the Adult Survivors Act, which created a one-year lookback period during which adult victims of alleged sexual offenses could file civil suits against perpetrators regardless of whether the standard statute of limitations had already passed. Prior to its non-retroactive expansion in 2019, New York’s statute of limitations on sexual assault was generally three years for criminal cases, leaving Carroll well past any window for a criminal complaint."

It was a one year lookback...convenient timing...


Jul 13, 2024, 11:54

"Trump never made such an offer, and Pelosi never rejected it, as Trump claimed. His military leadership has confirmed that there was no formal offer made, despite some private musings in the days before Jan. 6."

You must really try to recognize spin...politico nogal with a straight face...LOL.

Jul 13, 2024, 12:04

Denny

In September 2023 the D emocrat leadership had a meeting and did not announce the decisions taken - but a fter the emeting  they made a statement that they have a strfategy how to beat Trump.  

The strategy apparently had nothing to do with the Bidedn Administration - but concentrate on trying  to attack Trump by various means and no diffense on what the Democrats had been up to about and was in polls rejected by the vasst majority of the voters.

What was exposed since -

*     has been criminal charges against Trump concocted by the WH Lawyers, the Justice  Department  and supported by the FBI as their means of getting Biden re-elected - but th e charges became a farce thus far - none of it had any legal basis;;

*    an  effortg to not allow to run in the election at all - rejeccted by the Supreme Court as BS;

*     protect Hunter Biden from being charged with crimes and when he was the WH layers and the Justice  Department was a plan to get the case setted without a trial by a fake Admission of Guilt - which entailed no real punishmen for his crimes andprevcenting Hunter being investigated for hsi real crimes - the court rejecting it as BS.

Whatever evidence they might have against Trump was judiciously destroyed by the conduct of  the Biden Administration. ;


        

  

Jul 13, 2024, 12:14

So why wasn't he charged and convicted of instigating the "insurrection"?

He has been charged, but he hasn't been convicted or acquitted yet. Trump was charged in August last year but there has been numerous delays in him going to trial, mostly due the question of whether Trump has Presidential Immunity.  In February the Judge for this trial said he would not schedule the trial until the question of Presidential Immunity was answered. In February the DC Circuit Court of Appeals ruled Trump did not have Presidential Immunity, Trumps lawyers subsequently appealed this decision to the Supreme Court  who ruled this month that American President's do have immunity when it comes to Presidential official acts.

But this leaves open the question of what does and doesn't constitute an official act. As a result the case gets referred back to the lower courts who have to decide whether or not Trump's action relating to January 6th amounted to an official act or not. 

Assuming that the lower courts do decide that Trump's actions did not constitute an official act on January 6th and the trial should proceed. Well guess what. Trump's likely to appeal that decision to the Supreme Court as well. Causing further delays. And this is what Trump is likely to do for all the other charges he's facing as well, because no one has defined what is or isn't an official act. Its even resulted in a delay in sentencing Trump on his conviction over the Stormy Daniels hush money payments. His reimbursement to Michael Cohen for the pay off occurred while he was President.

The up shot of this that there is zero chance now that any trial's will proceed before the election in November and assuming Trump win's the election, in theory he can pardon himself from all these charges.

...why the need for the other horse manure lawfare against him if they could simply charge him with an actual serious crime? Why isn't he in jail yet?

Horse manure? Its not the law's fault Trump appears to have committed so many different offenses. They have charged with a very serious charge, but he's and his legal time are gaming (legally I'll add) the system to delay legal proceedings for as long as possible ideally from Trump's perspective to win back the Presidency and make all the charges go away. 




Jul 13, 2024, 12:28

You must really try to recognize spin...politico nogal with a straight face...LOL.

So other than taking Trump's word for it, can you provide any evidence that what Trump said is true? 

Jul 13, 2024, 12:57

"They have charged with a very serious charge, but he's and his legal time are gaming (legally I'll add) the system to delay legal proceedings for as long as possible ideally from Trump's perspective to win back the Presidency and make all the charges go away. "

LoL...with his magic wand I presume.

Jul 13, 2024, 13:01

"So other than taking Trump's word for it, can you provide any evidence that what Trump said is true? "

Nope, I believe him and judging by the spin the lefties and the media has put on the events of J6, I'm 100% convinced of it...and I'm truly amazed there's so many people convinced of the opposite BS narrative the media keeps on feeding us...good people believing the lies because the truth is simply too surreal to believe...and has concerning implications.

Jul 13, 2024, 13:57

Yes 

There are telephone recordings what Trump discussed with Pelosi and what Politico did was not doing there homework prfoperly.   .   

Then the charges on  the January 6 incident was based on what the Pelosi Committee came up with and then destroyed the information provided to them.   The bottom also fell out of the charges when a proper legal investgtion was done by the House so thus far the case has fizzled out and he Pelosi sideshow came out as a real farce.   They even spent millions on getting  Hollywood help on that one.

The charge against Trump on the official documents issue went sour as well - since the FBI themselves would not provide all the documents to the court - they took 32 boxes of documents and only returned 21 boxes.   Even iro of the returned  boxes there were documents missing.  The oher problem is the fake photo the FBI distributerd to the media of secret docments lying on the floor of he storerooms and the fcac is they made a mess of it and in evidence before the House it came out the photo was a fake.   The Judge hearing the case got so  mad at the FBI conduct that she postponed the case indefinitely until the FBI return all the documents for inspection.    Thus far the FBI did not return the documents and one can only wonder why?

So try again Stav - you believe all the BS the media  comes up with - and never provide any reasl proof of qanyonthung - Politico's factchecking is total BS - they provide so-called eviden ce tta is non-existent as proof  of nthing.   As tro Carroll - she claime Trump had sex with her and Trump said she must have wished it actually happenedc.   She has not proved anything about when iut ahppened.    The fact is a private claim - there was no Justice Department invovement in that case since it did not involve any criminal actvity - the case and to claim that is horse-shit,    The other fact is the New York State after Carroll opened the case in 2019 the the New Your law was changed..   That calim of yourse is snake shit - a term which I normally applied to crooked Democrat liars.

Just ask you one question - why were all th e cfake cxharge delayed until 2024 - whyw as that the case anywa?   

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Jul 13, 2024, 15:10

LoL...with his magic wand I presume.

No with the powers of the Presidency. You never heard of a Presidential pardon?. Its not clear whether the President can or can not pardon himself, so say he can, some say he can't. 

But what is very likely in the event of Trump winning back the Presidency is that the outstanding charges against Trump won't be pursued while Trump remains in office.

Nope, I believe him and judging by the spin the lefties and the media has put on the events of J6, I'm 100% convinced of it...and I'm truly amazed there's so many people convinced of the opposite BS narrative the media keeps on feeding us...good people believing the lies because the truth is simply too surreal to believe...and has concerning implications.

I guess there is no point trying to reason with you then. What good are facts and reason when you're just gonna believe what you want to believe.


 
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