Jacinda Ardern Wins with Ease

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Oct 17, 2020, 20:11

Well done to our friend Jacinda. Apparently, she won so convincingly that she is the first NZ leader with a majority without a coalition, in ages.

How will our conservative residents onsite react to this?
A woman in a man's job? :D It's part of the globalist socialist conspiracy...

Oct 18, 2020, 02:49

Who cares how they react, Jacinda Ardern is the salt of the Earth. The world would be a better place with more leaders like her.

Oct 18, 2020, 12:59

You're mistaking the horse for its salt.

Oct 18, 2020, 15:46

This has about as much significance as the vote for the mayor of Kansas City.

Oct 18, 2020, 20:47

"How will our conservative residents onsite react to this?"

With derogatory comments about her appearance and dismissiveness. Ah shucks...I was too slow. Well if Beeno shows up I predict a reaction of something about her being a child murderer as well.

Oct 18, 2020, 23:12

I don't see you rushing to Trump's defence when he's similarly attacked.

Now why would that be?

Real head scratcher.

Oct 18, 2020, 23:56

Does Trump get constantly referred to as a horse or get dismissed as insignificant?

I've not commented on Trumps appearance, though I do find his tan a bit ridiculous being honest, but what he or Ardern look like has no bearing on how capable they are of doing their job.

Oct 19, 2020, 03:28


I was referring to Ardern as a leader of a nation not as a beauty contestant. Glad you noticed:)

Oct 19, 2020, 04:17

‘.........but what he or Ardern look like has no bearing on how capable they are of doing their job.’

Well said Stavanger .......someone with some common sense and decency.

Oct 19, 2020, 07:14

Just to confirm...

Rooi has no decency or common sense?

Oct 19, 2020, 07:28

It’s strange you ask me that when you fawn all over him begging to be his friend.  Wouldn’t you know that already?

But just because you asked nicely and you’re obviously craving my attention, I’ll gladly confirm ....

Yes he does.....in buckets.  

You good now?

Oct 19, 2020, 07:32

Ah, I see.

Insult Trump's appearance = Common sense + decency

Insult Horsie's appearance = NO common sense and NO decency

Oct 19, 2020, 07:44

I’ve never insulted Trump’s appearance just his behaviour.  You’ve insulted not just her appearance but everything about her.  You seem to be a bit hurt that some people just don’t like him, not just the way he looks but the way he acts, a self-indulgent, egotistical, pussy-grabbing pig.

So yeah if some people like rooinek, blobbok, sharkbok, brycy, sadersfan, Stavanger and myself find him repulsive, put your big boys bloomers on and deal with it. 

Oct 19, 2020, 07:58


Oh, did I not mention, Rooi and company have insulted everything about Trump too?

Are they still decent and full of common sense?

Oct 19, 2020, 18:34

Oh I don’t care if  you find him repulsive.....nor does he I guess. Melania  is an elegant woman who has been insulted and ignored by the media and the Left. So the outrage because a poster has a problem with Adern’s appearance is just unbelievable hypocrisy.

Oct 19, 2020, 19:09

The question is would you want an underwear model running the country or Jacinda. 
Melanie is better looking, but let's be honest she does not have half the brain cells of Jacinda.

While having brains is not essential for an underwear model, it is for someone running a country.  

Oct 19, 2020, 19:18

"Melania  is an elegant woman who has been insulted and ignored by the media and the Left. So the outrage because a poster has a problem with Adern’s appearance is just unbelievable hypocrisy."

Does the left keep referring to Melania has a horse? I have seen criticism of Melania in the media but it was never about her appearance.

The consistent criticisms of Ardern's appearance just show how little genuine criticism those on the right have actually have of her.

Oct 19, 2020, 19:21

Nothing like veins bulging with faux outrage.

Oct 19, 2020, 19:24

Fine, I'll say something nice about her, if it'll ease tensions.

She's always quick out of the gate.


Oct 19, 2020, 19:31

In all honesty, I don't mind her too much.

She can do whatever she likes on her turf.

It's her clubhouse turn after all.

One thing is for sure. She's got the look of eagles.

Oct 19, 2020, 21:03

"She then attended the University of Waikato, graduating in 2001 with a Bachelor of Communication Studies (BCS) in politics and public relations.[22]

Ardern was brought into politics by her aunt, Marie Ardern, a longstanding member of the Labour Party, who recruited the teenaged Ardern to help her with campaigning for New "

The CV of someone aiming to be a career politician...nothing wrong with that...but you don't have to be a rocket scientist for that...just smart...and she's more than smart enough for that...to make PM at such a young age though - exceptional...but to have a baby while holding office?...I wasn't too impressed with that choice...no-one can do 2 full time jobs at the same time...it was a deliberate choice...workable, but there's cost.

Politics has become a scripted reality TV-show...on both the left and the right...the world is becoming more surreal by the day...

Oct 19, 2020, 23:02

Well, she received the majority and China is impressed.

But I am sure the minority will support her and good luck.

Oct 20, 2020, 02:54

If the Left referred to Melania as a horse....they would be seen to be lying. Hence they wouldn’t implying in a number of ways that she is dumb......but they had no difficulty saying horrible things about Sarah Huckabee Sanders..

Oct 20, 2020, 03:14

‘Oh I don’t care if you find him repulsive..............so the outrage because a poster has a problem with Adern’s appearance is just unbelievable hypocrisy.’

What size are you in a women’s bloomers?

Oct 20, 2020, 03:32

Hard to answer, although I do have very nice legs ....but at least we have established NZ women look like horses and still wear bloomers. Talk about being in the dark ages.... waaaaaahhaha!

Oct 20, 2020, 04:00

"but they had no difficulty saying horrible things about Sarah Huckabee Sanders.."

And more recently attacking Barrett on matters as personal as her choice to adopt two black children.

Barrett, graciously and with an absolutely intimidating grasp of the law, saw off the gutter dwellers with consumate ease. 

...and she's ever so easy on the eye too.

Another win for Trump.

Oct 20, 2020, 06:56

"....but they had no difficulty saying horrible things about Sarah Huckabee Sanders.."

She was treated appallingly, but that was OK somehow...look, I don't condone poking fun at Jacinda's looks...nobody should be mocked for their looks, but we can't seem to help ourselves. :D...sad when it becomes nasty and serious.

Oct 20, 2020, 07:14

If you going down that track Draad let me remind you of the disgraceful manner in which  Beeno carried on about Osamu Obama. No-one here said a word when he did. The disgraceful manner in which Trump carried on with his birther campaign against Obama. No-one here objected. Then there was his other daily mantra about Hilary.....went on for yonks. She was a crook remember? Well to my way of thinking people get charged, prosecuted and sent to jail if found guilty.....they then become certified crooks.

I recently watched a documentary of Obama singing Amazing Grace after delivering words of comfort at a memorial service for a police killing of a black person.

Oct 20, 2020, 08:33

"President Barack Obama launched an air campaign against Libya on this day in 2011. The decision to order the strikes came after the United Nations Security Council passed a resolution, spearheaded by his administration, that authorized military intervention in Libya."

The greatest disgrace of all being what Obama did to Libya.

The result?

Here's an update, in case you care about actual suffering.

The wonderful Obama

The rebirth of the slave trade and a brand new hotbed for terrorism are some of the fallout of Hillary/Obama's Libyan liberation.

But you better believe that Obama was all about African prosperity at Mandela's funeral.

Make no mistake, he has very much Africa blood on his hands. And lots of it is being spilled to this very day.

Oct 20, 2020, 08:51

Good I’ll send you some of Aunty Betty’s and some stilettos to go with your ‘hairy’ legs. Maybe a razor or two might help as well.

Oct 20, 2020, 08:54


Waste of time ....didn’t you know that Obama didn’t get Osama after all. Theories abound, latest was a sighting in down-town Memphis having a fried (ugh) peanut butter and jelly sandwich with Elvis.

Oct 20, 2020, 09:35

Yes, I hear he flew the chopper, got Hillary to hold the stick while he zip-lined down into the compound, took out all the terrorists single-handedly and then lifted Osama into the chopper.

Oct 20, 2020, 10:07

Damn he’s good.

Changed your nappy yet?

Oct 20, 2020, 11:06

Beeno is/was the source of a daily barrage of, at times, questionable/disputable material on this site...it would have been a full time job to fact check all that stuff back then, but I agree that he can go a bit overboard at times (most of the time :angel:)...I'm guilty of doing it myself at times. I think we all make mistakes and get our noses rubbed in it sometimes...par for the internet.

I really didn't have any interest in US politics before Trump's entry made it a circus, but there are definitely 2 sides to every story... Trump did not start this, he exposed a latent issue in Western society that's been festering for years already. Being branded a stupid redneck racist for having a different opinion on some serious issues isn't very nice...I am sorry if some of my views offend some people, I actually try to be considerate and fair to all the people I meet on the internet and in real life...

Oct 20, 2020, 11:41

"Trump did not start this, he exposed a latent issue in Western society that's been festering for years already."


And to be honest, I'm surprised the republicans are going along with it. Probably because just enough time has passed since Iraq 2.0.

The problem with trying to be objective is that you'll always deal with dimwits that fail at the first hurdle and see disagreement as attack. For example, questioning a movement that at best may save tens of lives versus discussing topics that could save millions. Why are parts of the conversation beyond discussion? And if it is beyond discussion, are we still in the land of logic? Cos it doesn't seem so.

How did minorities do under Trump's first three years? If you answer that question honestly and you're a logical person, then you have to conclude that ultimately much suffering was decreased. More money = less suffering.

How is that irrelevant?

Why are the words "Trump improved many people's lives" off limits? 

Where does one's own ego sit in relation to how you answer the above?

The more devastating the point the more profound the perceived attack. 

"Behold, my indignation. Bow to it!"

Oct 20, 2020, 13:51


Here a straight no BS question and I'd appreciate a yes or a no.

Do you believe Trump will win the election?

Note...I'm not asking if you hope he wins.

Oct 20, 2020, 13:58

Dense, you'll find that it's easier to herd a group of kittens into the kennel of a ferocious Rottweiler than it is to get a straight (or coherent) answer from DumbPlum so I'll answer your question on behalf of the Trumpanzees . . .

The Trumpanzees will tell you that Trump can only lose the election because of mail fraud or some other cheating method.

The Trumpanzees will tell you that Trump would win the elction in a landslide if there was no cheating and they'll be banging on for years about how their hero Bozo was cheated out of a second term because of Democrat cheating at the polls.

Am I right, Trumpanzees? I know I am but let's hear it from you. You think the only way Bozo will lose is if the Democrats cheat, right? Yes?

Oct 20, 2020, 14:06

"Am I right, Trumpanzees? I know I am but let's hear it from you. You think the only way Bozo will lose is if the Democrats cheat, right? Yes?

Nope. I have no idea, but funny you would say that though...you are on the "Trump only won in 2016 because he colluded with Russia" train...

Oct 20, 2020, 14:12


Trump will win.

And more convincingly than in 2016.

Oct 20, 2020, 14:15

No he won’t ....oh wait where’s my dandelion?

Oct 20, 2020, 14:17

"Nope. I have no idea, but funny you would say that though...you are on the "Trump only won in 2016 because he colluded with Russia" train..."

LMAO.... oh no.... some truth for a change

Oct 20, 2020, 14:17


Oct 20, 2020, 14:42

The question of whether I want him to win is a more interesting one though.

I'm concerned with a Trump win actually.

Not for any of the reasons that you may expect though.

Oct 20, 2020, 14:44

What do u mean?

Oct 20, 2020, 15:03

Bum Plum being cryptic and prophetic... 

Oct 20, 2020, 15:12

If the polls are accurate, Biden has it in the bag. 

However, everyone needs to vote to ensure this, because a Trunpanzee would crawl over broken glass and get Coronavirus to vote for their master.
You can be sure 100% of Trumpanzees will vote...

Oct 20, 2020, 15:17

Hillary had it in the bag too...

Oct 20, 2020, 15:17

I mean that manufacturing consent is the name of the game and I smell a consent manufacturing rat here. It all stinks.

Question is, consent for what? 

I can argue the micro picture with you all day but in reality I'm vastly more interested in the macro outcome of all this.

Iran perhaps?

Oct 20, 2020, 16:10

"because a Trunpanzee would crawl over broken glass and get Coronavirus to vote for their master"

I had to chuckle…..

Oct 20, 2020, 21:03

Funny if he wasn't so serious...

Oct 20, 2020, 22:14

Obama was a foreign policy disaster. Heaven only knows where we would have been in the ME if the Egyptian military hadn’t stopped his Arab Spring.

Oct 21, 2020, 08:33

And one realises the absurdity of holding Obama up as some example of a good leader.

Apparently, having a blues voice and not being white is the gold standard. 

My skin still crawls when I think back to his speech at Madiba's funeral.

Oct 21, 2020, 09:47

Can't really say that Obama really bothered me when he was president...I didn't like McCain and Romney, so I was actually glad when he won. I didn't follow US politics at all. I started following things when I noticed the drama and chaos when Trump joined the fray.

Anyway, don't know why your skin crawls...what am I missing in his speech? Virtue signalling is the worst I can find, but it's politics and the funeral of a world icon. 

Obama’s speech:

To Graça Machel and the Mandela family; to President Zuma and members of the government; to heads of state and government, past and present; distinguished guests – it is a singular honour to be with you today, to celebrate a life unlike any other. To the people of South Africa – people of every race and walk of life – the world thanks you for sharing Nelson Mandela with us. His struggle was your struggle. His triumph was your triumph. Your dignity and hope found expression in his life, and your freedom, your democracy is his cherished legacy.It is hard to eulogize any man – to capture in words not just the facts and the dates that make a life, but the essential truth of a person – their private joys and sorrows; the quiet moments and unique qualities that illuminate someone’s soul. How much harder to do so for a giant of history, who moved a nation toward justice, and in the process moved billions around the world.

Born during World War I, far from the corridors of power, a boy raised herding cattle and tutored by elders of his Thembu tribe – Madiba would emerge as the last great liberator of the 20th century. Like Gandhi, he would lead a resistance movement – a movement that at its start held little prospect of success.

Like King, he would give potent voice to the claims of the oppressed, and the moral necessity of racial justice. He would endure a brutal imprisonment that began in the time of Kennedy and Khrushchev, and reached the final days of the Cold War. Emerging from prison, without force of arms, he would – like Lincoln – hold his country together when it threatened to break apart. Like America’s founding fathers, he would erect a constitutional order to preserve freedom for future generations – a commitment to democracy and rule of law ratified not only by his election, but by his willingness to step down from power.

Given the sweep of his life, and the adoration that he so rightly earned, it is tempting then to remember Nelson Mandela as an icon, smiling and serene, detached from the tawdry affairs of lesser men. But Madiba himself strongly resisted such a lifeless portrait. Instead, he insisted on sharing with us his doubts and fears; his miscalculations along with his victories. “I’m not a saint,” he said, “unless you think of a saint as a sinner who keeps on trying.”

It was precisely because he could admit to imperfection – because he could be so full of good humour, even mischief, despite the heavy burdens he carried – that we loved him so. He was not a bust made of marble; he was a man of flesh and blood – a son and husband, a father and a friend. That is why we learned so much from him; that is why we can learn from him still. For nothing he achieved was inevitable. In the arc of his life, we see a man who earned his place in history through struggle and shrewdness; persistence and faith. He tells us what’s possible not just in the pages of dusty history books, but in our own lives as well.

Mandela showed us the power of action; of taking risks on behalf of our ideals. Perhaps Madiba was right that he inherited, “a proud rebelliousness, a stubborn sense of fairness” from his father. Certainly he shared with millions of black and coloured South Africans the anger born of, “a thousand slights, a thousand indignities, a thousand unremembered moments…a desire to fight the system that imprisoned my people.”

But like other early giants of the ANC – the Sisulus and Tambos – Madiba disciplined his anger; and channelled his desire to fight into organization, and platforms, and strategies for action, so men and women could stand-up for their dignity. Moreover, he accepted the consequences of his actions, knowing that standing up to powerful interests and injustice carries a price. “I have fought against white domination and I have fought against black domination,” he said at his 1964 trial. “I’ve cherished the ideal of a democratic and free society in which all persons live together in harmony and with equal opportunities. It is an ideal which I hope to live for and to achieve. But if needs be, it is an ideal for which I am prepared to die.”

Mandela taught us the power of action, but also ideas; the importance of reason and arguments; the need to study not only those you agree with, but those who you don’t. He understood that ideas cannot be contained by prison walls, or extinguished by a sniper’s bullet. He turned his trial into an indictment of apartheid because of his eloquence and passion, but also his training as an advocate. He used decades in prison to sharpen his arguments, but also to spread his thirst for knowledge to others in the movement. And he learned the language and customs of his oppressor so that one day he might better convey to them how their own freedom depended upon his.

Mandela demonstrated that action and ideas are not enough; no matter how right, they must be chiselled into laws and institutions. He was practical, testing his beliefs against the hard surface of circumstance and history. On core principles he was unyielding, which is why he could rebuff offers of conditional release, reminding the Apartheid regime that, “prisoners cannot enter into contracts.” But as he showed in painstaking negotiations to transfer power and draft new laws, he was not afraid to compromise for the sake of a larger goal. And because he was not only a leader of a movement, but a skilful politician, the Constitution that emerged was worthy of this multiracial democracy; true to his vision of laws that protect minority as well as majority rights, and the precious freedoms of every South African.

Finally, Mandela understood the ties that bind the human spirit. There is a word in South Africa – Ubuntu – that describes his greatest gift: his recognition that we are all bound together in ways that can be invisible to the eye; that there is a oneness to humanity; that we achieve ourselves by sharing ourselves with others, and caring for those around us. We can never know how much of this was innate in him, or how much of was shaped and burnished in a dark, solitary cell. But we remember the gestures, large and small – introducing his jailors as honoured guests at his inauguration; taking the pitch in a Springbok uniform; turning his family’s heartbreak into a call to confront HIV/AIDS – that revealed the depth of his empathy and understanding. He not only embodied Ubuntu; he taught millions to find that truth within themselves. It took a man like Madiba to free not just the prisoner, but the jailor as well; to show that you must trust others so that they may trust you; to teach that reconciliation is not a matter of ignoring a cruel past, but a means of confronting it with inclusion, generosity and truth. He changed laws, but also hearts.

For the people of South Africa, for those he inspired around the globe – Madiba’s passing is rightly a time of mourning, and a time to celebrate his heroic life. But I believe it should also prompt in each of us a time for self-reflection. With honesty, regardless of our station or circumstance, we must ask: how well have I applied his lessons in my own life?

It is a question I ask myself – as a man and as a President. We know that like South Africa, the United States had to overcome centuries of racial subjugation. As was true here, it took the sacrifice of countless people – known and unknown – to see the dawn of a new day. Michelle and I are the beneficiaries of that struggle. But in America and South Africa, and countries around the globe, we cannot allow our progress to cloud the fact that our work is not done. The struggles that follow the victory of formal equality and universal franchise may not be as filled with drama and moral clarity as those that came before, but they are no less important. For around the world today, we still see children suffering from hunger, and disease; run-down schools, and few prospects for the future. Around the world today, men and women are still imprisoned for their political beliefs; and are still persecuted for what they look like, or how they worship, or who they love.

We, too, must act on behalf of justice. We, too, must act on behalf of peace. There are too many of us who happily embrace Madiba’s legacy of racial reconciliation, but passionately resist even modest reforms that would challenge chronic poverty and growing inequality. There are too many leaders who claim solidarity with Madiba’s struggle for freedom, but do not tolerate dissent from their own people. And there are too many of us who stand on the sidelines, comfortable in complacency or cynicism when our voices must be heard.

The questions we face today – how to promote equality and justice; to uphold freedom and human rights; to end conflict and sectarian war – do not have easy answers. But there were no easy answers in front of that child in Qunu. Nelson Mandela reminds us that it always seems impossible until it is done. South Africa shows us that is true. South Africa shows us we can change. We can choose to live in a world defined not by our differences, but by our common hopes. We can choose a world defined not by conflict, but by peace and justice and opportunity.

We will never see the likes of Nelson Mandela again. But let me say to the young people of Africa, and young people around the world – you can make his life’s work your own. Over thirty years ago, while still a student, I learned of Mandela and the struggles in this land. It stirred something in me. It woke me up to my responsibilities – to others, and to myself – and set me on an improbable journey that finds me here today. And while I will always fall short of Madiba’s example, he makes me want to be better. He speaks to what is best inside us. After this great liberator is laid to rest; when we have returned to our cities and villages, and rejoined our daily routines, let us search then for his strength – for his largeness of spirit – somewhere inside ourselves. And when the night grows dark, when injustice weighs heavy on our hearts, or our best laid plans seem beyond our reach – think of Madiba, and the words that brought him comfort within the four walls of a cell:

It matters not how strait the gate,

How charged with punishments the scroll,

I am the master of my fate:

I am the captain of my soul.

What a great soul it was. We will miss him deeply. May God bless the memory of Nelson Mandela. May God bless the people of South Africa.

Oct 21, 2020, 10:46


Against a backdrop of destroying African countries he talks about African unity, etc.

And people lapped it up.

The irony and hypocrisy was sickening.

Oct 21, 2020, 10:51

Eg I'm gonna invade Libya and destroy the country because their  leader is threatening the petro-dollar.


"The questions we face today – how to promote equality and justice; to uphold freedom and human rights; to end conflict and sectarian war – do not have easy answers."

Oct 21, 2020, 13:13

Why don’t you just hurry up and rack off to Canada and do your country a favour? Take your bloomers and nappies with you eeesshh

Oct 21, 2020, 13:25

Like i said...infatuated.

Oct 21, 2020, 13:39

YesI know you are.......understandable

Sounds like I hit a nerve ouch

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