Law and Order in New York - total collapse in evidence

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Dec 04, 2024, 13:16

You know one of he reasons for the loss of Harris is the fact that the ultra-leftist Demcrats love criminals and hate eveybody else. New York's Jusice system has been ruined and will never recover. I hope the Jury reject the Prosecutors BS and find te thug guilty of MURDER,


A 87 ntleman who left Korea and lived in New York is murdered by a thug and after rrest is let out of jail without paying bail after the murder. THe Prosecuting attorney - a really ugly bitch - suggested that th murderer sh ould be found guilty of mnslghter and entendeced to a maximum of 10 years and will be released on bail in 2026.


Another example why in the Democratic controlled cities the legal system as ben destroyed and milions of people from California, New York and Chicago has fled to Repblican controlled States. At least tey will not be afraid to leave heir homs and criminals will be arrested and delt with with senrenced that match their crimes.


California, New York and Chicago is rapidly deteriorating into Third World Status,

Dec 04, 2024, 16:03

And this morning the CEO of UnitedHealthcare is gunned down in NY going to a conference. This seems like vengeance rather than robbery….but yet another gun death.

Dec 04, 2024, 16:47

Mozart

The killer may be found and arrested  by the Police  - but he would get out of jail within 24 hours and then charged with manslaugher and not murder.    Was this C EO from New York?    He would I  sure have known that New York is a criminal paradise.   

Dec 04, 2024, 20:10

"And this morning the CEO of UnitedHealthcare is gunned down in NY going to a conference. This seems like vengeance rather than robbery….but yet another gun death"


If it wasn't a gun, they would have used something else...tools are not responsible for the acts of the people wielding them.

Dec 04, 2024, 20:37

If it wasn't a gun, they would have used something else...tools are not responsible for the acts of the people wielding them.

Oh just f**k off.

Dec 05, 2024, 00:11

Shot him in the back….tell his kids about how guns are incidental.

Dec 05, 2024, 03:09

"If it weren't a gun, they would have used something else...tools are not responsible for the acts of the people wielding them"... Neither are Nuclear bombs.....

Someone could have used a knife or a car to commit the murder, but these devices have a functional purpose in the day-to-day lives of people, and the benefits outweigh the risks. Also, both are far less effective at killing than a gun. 

There are crazy people in the world, so much so that they would kill innocent people. 
They are less effective without guns. Background checks are not good enough and never will be, this has been proven time and time again. Someone may not have committed crimes before a background check, but they may in the future.

10% of people want a gun, then 20% of people want a gun to protect themselves against people with guns. And so it spirals. 

Dec 05, 2024, 04:08

Shame on you DbD ....................... :ermm:

Dec 05, 2024, 06:08

Having lived in Europe, I always fancied my chances against some yobo with a knife or bat.

Give him a gun and my wallet shall be handed over promptly.

I agree, killing someone with a firearm is far easier than anything else. There's no question that if guns were removed then murder rates would drop massively. I've not looked at any numbers but I'm gonna guess that more than 80% are committed using firearms. Let's ask Chat...

2019: Approximately 19,141 homicides, with about 80% involving firearms. ? 2020: A notable increase to 24,576 homicides, with over 79% involving firearms. ? 2021: Homicides rose to 26,031, with firearms involved in approximately 81% of cases. ? 2022: A slight decline to 19,651 firearm homicides. ? 2023: Continued decrease to 18,874 firearm-related deaths, excluding suicides. ?

First let me congratulate myself on that amazing guesstimate haha.

So for me there are two questions...

1) how much would the murder rate decrease if there were no guns in civilian hands?

2) is the price worth the goods? The price being that once a citizenry is deprived of weapons they are powerless against their government.

Dec 05, 2024, 06:25

In the case of cities like New York the problem is neither guns or any other weapons    The problem is the lack of proper protection of people against criminality by the Police under constsnt attack by the Poiticians and policies that promote criminalty    

Over the last two years 240 000 illegal migrants flooded into New York/   According to records kept secret by the Biden Regime  amongst the millions of migrants there were 495 000 vonvicted criminals..    The Govrnments got billions in aid fundig from the Biden Regime to keep people in their original countries - but the Governments of such contries decided to send their convicted criminals and gangsters from jail and handed them over to the Mexican cartels to smuggle them into he USA.   Thousands of those criminals are gangster members and when they reach cities like New York they go on crime sprees even attacking  the Police.     It is famous that the mass crime actiities by gangsters operating in New York take thrir  loot to Florida where they liv i up - they do not commit crimes in Florida,    The matter was invesigated and it wa found that in new York criminals are o arrsted and if they are they ae released within 24 hours and often not  charged wih crimes ar all,    In Florida they are and kept in jail until charged for  crimes they committed,   ,    

In New York the cost of paying for accomoaation of migrants an paying a subsistenc allowance to themof $1 000 per monh pe individual cuase the  city bilions in in their latest budgt hey had to cyut the budgetary allocation for polcing by $2 billion.   Howevr, the Major - a Black Democrat is in constant battle with the DA's and in revenge they laid fake charges of bribery and corruption aginst the Mayor,   Those whom the  Gods wish to destroy they drive mad.

In the meanime the siuation is that the DA's concerned has develop a system where people defending themselves agaist criminal atacks are charged with crimes.      So the residents are unprotected against criminals and  and Trump's AG is going to charge the  politicians involved in proection of criminals with crimes relating to undermining of law and order in the city.   In San Francisco and Los Angeles the voters already got rid of two DA's who were acting the same a those in New York..

The laws aimed at so-called sof sntences for murderers to allow for soft sentences for murderers are going to be declared nconstitutional and resitence by ulta-left politicias are going to cause laying of charges of criminality against the local undrmining of la and order are going to fiid thmselves in jail.

to rules layed down by George Soros and implemented by the Fedreal government at present  - his son vosos the WH on a monthly basis to ensure his father's instrucions are adhered to asre gin to dicontinue and  City legislation in NewYor scrapped because they promote destruction of law and order  will be harshly dealt with.   

The murder of he CEO made headline news in the country -but what about thousands of other cases of attacks on peolpe by criminals are never publisized by the media,.     A poor  old man 75 years old from Puerto Rico was attacked in his spaza shop in Nw York and when he feared he would be killed stabbed the attacker who died.    So he was charged with murder by the DA and arrested and had to pay  $10 000 in bail - while criminals never pay bail in NY - they are just released.   

A wealthy Republican family felt sorry for the old man and paid the bail and moved him to safey in Maryland where they provided him with a  home where he can live in safety and also pay him a monthly allowances to give him a secure and decent life in his old age.    He was saved by good people- but what about the other suffering people in New York?.           ,        

            


Dec 05, 2024, 06:52

US crime figures are down.

Dec 05, 2024, 06:55

Crime is Down, Particularly Homicide Violent crime overall fell by about 3% in 2023 compared to 2022, according to the FBI. More remarkably, murders dropped by nearly 12%, making this the largest one-year decline in the last 20 years.24 Oct 2024

U.S. Violent Crime Is Down. Many Voters Refuse To Believe It

Forbes
https://www.forbes.com › Innovation › Healthcare

Dec 05, 2024, 07:08

"Shot him in the back….tell his kids about how guns are incidental."

I saw the footage last night ...... horrific for anyone to see that

Dec 05, 2024, 08:09

President  it is not nership of guns by ordinary law-abiding citizens tht is a problem - it is gun possession by criminal that is a problem.    he Police has neve en able to get rid of ciminal oning gun users and  will neve be able to do it in any counry.    

In Sweden the Socialist Government  Pary lost the election an the ne Govenent got te king o authorise the  newly-elected Government to use the army to stop gun batles between gangs,   But that s only partly successful.    

The fact is  that guns do no kill people - criminals using guns ot oher means kill people,    

Dec 05, 2024, 08:22

You'll never get guns out of a society like America. Criminal behaviour is rooted in socio-economics. You don't fix that, you're not going to fix anything. How's the war on drugs going? Ah.

Dec 05, 2024, 08:42

How's the war on drugs going?

Has it ever gone anywhere ever ?

Dec 05, 2024, 11:03

BB - You believe that FBI BS trying to calm the populion rebelling  gainst t he Biden record on crime prevention?    Th i gures to claim that crime is down was a lie  and nobody in the USA actuall believe it.

You get statistics and lies in tha case and the main thing at play was staistical lies.   Th real rth wil emerge hen the habitual lais in he FBI are removed.   

The fact is that Trump on and their wort fears ave been realized and the people who covred up corruption in the USA will be gone from the Justice Department ad the F B I.    No statisticl lies will chan ge hat ssceanrrio.   

By the wy with the open boarder policy and cocaine even founmd in the WH it eploded compared to what really happened.    According  to ral nfo the prices o drugs dropped due to over-supply and is now cheaper thn i  in 2020.    Oversupply cause deflation.  Aside from that the Democratic controlled started drg clinic where free needles and drugs are supplied  to addicts,              

Dec 05, 2024, 14:55

The war on drugs should be going great, they are intent on legalizing everything….and no doubt when all these druggies need rehab, the tax payer will fund the additional healthcare.

There are two underlying themes. Firstly nobody is responsible for their own well being anymore, that’s the governments job. And secondly guns continue to be glorified in Hollywood movies….buying them, taking them apart and using them. No wonder that losers feel strong wielding a pistol.

Without religion man has to craft an alternative morality and we are doing a damn poor job.


Dec 05, 2024, 18:52

How long has the war on drugs been ongoing, since Reagan right?. And its been considered a policy failure for the entire time. Seems madness to keep doing the same thing over and over.

Dec 06, 2024, 07:43

Well - there was a war relating to  drugs ongoing but  has more  to do with a protection of Druggies war against law enforcement..   Let me be nore explicit. - in specially West Coast States and Cities there is  crime and health problem  so the Cities and States operate clinics where addicts can get free equipmnt and drugs.

The Police are powerless to act against the politico's.   S o when a peson lying on a street kerb seeming to be dead and he Police caulled they may turn  up and if they did  they would  complain that they have real work to do  that are so drugged that it looks like they ave aleady died, 

So the policy seems to be let the fuckers kill themselve  - it saves us  a lot of problems if hey die.  The street gangs conduct caued over  1,5 millin fleeing from those states to safety - even Acapulo is regaded as a haven compared to Los Angeles and San Francisco.   When people askd those who went to  Acapulco why they moved - the answer is the  same   -  the Califonia Gangs are more dangeous than  the Mexican Cartels,

So the happy war is going on - this one beween the sane and insane people with govennce being on the side of the insane lot and police being under attack as  regular targets and Polic officers as a result being murdered.- a real paradise on earth for criminals,

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Dec 07, 2024, 06:54

"Shot him in the back….tell his kids about how guns are incidental."

I saw the footage last night ...... horrific for anyone to see that

Yet lefties all over social media is celebrating this killing and hailing the shooter as a hero, calling for Elon to be next on the list. The same people who will bitch about fascism and nazis all day long.

Dec 07, 2024, 09:10

That is exactly the prblem in the USA,   CNN ran an opinion poll in the USA as to whether Trump or Harris are the worst threat to democracy in the USA and Harris was indicated by 52% and Trump by 45% as a greater threat.   I think that the threat to law despising ultra-lefties caused that result - which sent  CNN on crazy spin about the outcome.   

Despite all the Nazi calling campaign by the media  - the outcome of te election caused a slight narrowing of the difference.     What came out afterwads was that 70% of the voters voting Democrat claimed they voted for Harris  and not Trump because they believed  the media propaganda BS and they do not support the DP ultra-left policies,    If Trump turned out to be a real supporter of Democracy and prove the media wrong  the DP should reject the ultra-left policies or end up as a fringe polical party..

By the way all the nominees of Trump are on the lefty threat list  and I am afraid that Trump remains heading that list.   I belief Trump is in France today for the opeing of the restored Notre Dame  church on invitation  of Macron and a whole list of leaders especially from Caholic countries will be attending.     Some sort of leaderhip summit on the go.    Hope the security hold out at the church and related meeting - Paris is a nest of Muslim terrorism and has been for years,

 

       

               

Dec 09, 2024, 10:12

Not dissimilar to John Lennon's shooting

Dec 11, 2024, 14:08

The shooter is being cheered  on by the  ultra-left lot in the USA same as they promote criminality in the USA.     He actually was totally brainwashed and believe what the ultra-left tells him.   Not a problem - he will be found guilty of  homicide by accident and given a 2 year sentence.   The whole legal system in New York is inherently a disaster.

           

 
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