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Nov 20, 2023, 06:45

To paraphrase...

Israel's smartest move would have been not to respond to the terrorist attacks in any way and instead ramped up aid and other humanitarian efforts in Palestine.

So obviously the right move, and so obviously impossible.

Nov 20, 2023, 08:54

Is this the clip?

I don't really think much of Musk's opinion on politics in general. But I'd mostly agree with what he's saying here in that Hamas had the goal of making Israel overreact but perhaps not just to rally Muslims behind Palestine but for Israel to lose support from the rest of the international community. He also raises the point that Israel's action may lead to more people wanting to join Hamas.

But the idea that Israel should engage in acts of charity towards Palestine is a non runner. For a starter it would be an action that flies in a total opposite direction to the current Israel government and its supporters ideology. Secondly even if they wanted to how could they?. Hamas would remain in control the Gaza striped and either could block such actions or say they where right to carry out their terrorist acts as Israel is now making concessions.

Nov 20, 2023, 12:35

The Israeli Governmednt do not need to su,pply Humani tarian aid to Hamas - the USA Government is doing that - Fact is the Biden Adminsitartion is stabbing Isrfal in the back.  Besides the humanitarian assistance to Hamas - the USA Government under Biden has unfrozedn more than $100 billion benefittging Iran - despite a US Law that state that as long as Iran supports fterrorism the money will remain frozen.

With friends like the present US  Government - who needs enemies..  

Nov 20, 2023, 17:59

Knowing a bit about Israel, having family that live in Natanya and Jerusalem and having had extended work and vacations in the country over the years I have learned and experienced a bit about the country.

The greatest issue is that the Arabs do not want Jews in the country, while the Jewish people believe that the country is their only true country and homeland.

Irrespective of what the Arab population thinks, feels and hates with a passion regarding the Jewish neighbours they have prospered and work in Israel and earned good money and learned many new skills as opposed to many of their next door states such as Lebanon.

The Arabs involved in this dispute cannot even lived together as muslims because of their different religeous sects plus they are one sad screwed up bunch of people hating everything western, non muslim but the western women.

The British divided the county up after WW11 (around 1948) and the Israel people took over additional areas after the six day war including parts of Egypt (Sinia) but returned that land returned to Egypt in exchange to a peach accord signed with them and Saddat the President of Egypt at the time (who by the way was assinated because he signed a peace treaty with Israel).

If the country of Israel gave up all land which now makes up Israel to the arabs and moved out the Arabs would turn the area into another Lebanon.

Buildings having been destroyed with in fighting amoungst the Arab inhabitians in Lebanon and everything is in a sad state of affairs including the economy.

All Christian historic sites and anything not Arab in Israel will be destroyed and the country would become yet another state seeking western aid forever.

Hate is in their bloodline to anything western, peaceful or civilised except as I stated earlier plus of course DOLLARS/EUROS. 

Sad state of affairs allround.

Nov 20, 2023, 19:38

If the roles were reversed and Hamas had Israel's military capacity, all Jews would have been exterminated decades ago...

...this conflict doesn't have a humane,  amicable of the sides needs to be destroyed...their views and goals are not compatible with a peaceful solution...unfortunately there's no easy way out...

Nov 20, 2023, 21:50

My my my, your certainly signing from a different hymn sheet compared to the conflict in Ukraine.

Nov 20, 2023, 23:17

Yes one wonders what happened to all the hand wringing about violence and all the mutual culpability.

Nov 21, 2023, 04:18

Stav, no I'm actually not propagating the destruction of Palestine...I'm saying peace won't be possible without the destruction of one of the sides...the only possible peaceful sollutions would be for the Jews to leave the Middle East, or give all power over to Palestine and that's never gonna happen...the only other solution would be the total destruction of one of the the alternative to that is a perpetual state of war and terrorism...sad, but that's how it is, I don't see it changing anytime soon.

Nov 21, 2023, 05:15

What I've never understood is why the Muslim still regard Jerusalem when Mecca is their focal worship place. Mohammed left Jerusalem for Mecca,why have two Holy sites. 

Nov 21, 2023, 05:15

Putin's ultimate war aim remains the total subjugation of Ukraine.

Nov 21, 2023, 05:19

Ja Blob...and he's slowly but surely succeeding, exterminating a whole nation in the process. 

Nov 21, 2023, 05:22

Well NATO have been pushing since the 2nd World War. They looked fir the Rooi gevaar and got it.

 NATO and Hamas are both cowards. Hiding in hospitals and NATO hiding behind Ukranian youth

Nov 21, 2023, 05:39

Pin on My quotes

Nov 21, 2023, 05:56

So true Blob...for a non-believer to cut to the crux nogal...

Nov 21, 2023, 05:59

S tav

The presentr US  Government has 2 elements in place that control the cuntry - bibery anxd lies.   There is one huge dxifference between the Ukrainet give another  and Israeli cases.    In Ukraine the USA made ssre that the war occurred by sabotaging peace agrements and directly involved n the Nord Stream pipeline attack.    

In the case of Israel the first large lorryloads plus $300 mllion dollars in cash  were proovided to Hamas  before any aid may be  provided to Israel.    Fact is nothing has been s povided to Israel yet since the House Republican Party memberswaned separate bills passed to assist Ukraine and Israel - while Biden wants a quidx po quo decision.  Biden would not provide aid to Iszrael without the Ukraine issue was dealt with by the House.

One thing is clear - when corrupt idiots govern countries - like the present case in the USA  - in the end people turns against corrupt idiots.   Biden wants another  $100 billion for aid to Ukraine and only  $3,5 billion to help Israel,    





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Nov 21, 2023, 06:02

The unbelievers of darkness want to use theology because they have no platform. 

They abide with Satan but use theology just the same as the devil does. 

Difference us we know your tricks. 

Nov 21, 2023, 08:40

PS, I thought the same about the conflict in Northern Ireland back in the day, but was proven wrong...there's always hope, so hopefully there can be peace in Palestine too some day...I just don't see it.

Nov 21, 2023, 09:53

Moses is the main character in the Koran.
The Old Testament in the Bible is similar to the Koran.

Being led to the promised land is a central theme in the Bible and Koran. (and probably the Torah as well).

So until religion fades away, this will be a never-ending war.

Nov 21, 2023, 09:58

Thank goognees your communism got done with.

Most Frot atheist engineered system ever. 

Nov 21, 2023, 10:07

Western countries are communist? 
Western countries are the longest-standing Democratic governments in the world, with capitalist economies.

While Democratic can be a relative term, it is not authoritarian or communist, etc.
The religious prefer a God style of authoritarianism - like the Dark Ages when they thrived.
(E..g Sharia Law, The Moses 10 commandments of being led to the promised land by Allah). 

Nov 21, 2023, 10:07


Nov 21, 2023, 10:37

Ja you need a worldwide conference to decide your statutes. Till then you're just blabbing rubbish

Nov 21, 2023, 16:41

Temple Mount in Jerusalem is perhaps the second highest ranking worship place for Muslims.

The Garden Tomb, the Wailing wall (last remaining wall of Davids Temple) Jerusalem just below Temple Mount and the manger in Bethlehem are very important to Christians.

All within a short walk of each other and these sites are very important to millions of worshipers.

In closing since the state of Israel was declared all Isralie Prime Ministers have held out the olive branch to the Arabs to sign a peach deal in which both sides would agree to peace and foster goodwin so that they can both share the peace and build their countries up peacefully.

On each occassion the Palestine leaders have refused to come to the table as they do not accept Israel as a country but want it all.

Check mate unfortunately.

If you have a chance listen to the PM of Israel's speech at the UN in which he outlines who is behind this cycle of violence in the Middle East....a honest and open speech and worth a few minutes to get the true picture of what is actually taking place in that part of the world.

Nov 21, 2023, 16:52

Much like what took place in RSA after 1948 except it was not because of faith or inheritance but simple greed and forced segeration of all that did not fit the one sects desire to forge ahead at all cost that has resulted in the present day RSA.

Chaos and the loss of many, many lives and future for what!

Nov 21, 2023, 17:38

"but simple greed and forced segeration of all that did not fit the one sects desire to forge ahead at all cost that has resulted in the present day RSA."

No AJ, it wasn't about that, but that was unfortunately the way it turned was about the fear of being overrun by the "Swart Gevaar"...a valid fear BTW, but not enough to justify the unjust system that Apartheid turned out to be...I'm afraid the people of Israel will face a similar choice soon, or there can be no peace ever...

Nov 21, 2023, 21:07

Politics is a nasty tool that is abused at every turn for one or other reason.

But democary is the only form of govrnment that on paper appears to be the solution but unfortunately is abused by all those in power.

We all have good intentions but keep shooting ourselves in the foot at every opportunity. 


Nov 22, 2023, 09:26

One good thing about all this is the mass demonstrations in Europe and America have woken people up to the treat posed by Islam.

Their rantings about committing genocide against the Jews has wakened people to the nature of islam and their attitudes to non muslims as have the incredible atrocities  that Hamas committed and the cheering so called Palestinians when he body of a dead woman was paraded through the streets.

People are now talking openly about deporting Muslims on Twitter. Talk is Europe is about closing the borders and expulsions. Trump and Ramaswamy are talking about mass deportations on the invaders.

All great news, western Civilization may yet be saved.

Biblical Christianity and Judaism is nothing like Islam. Ou Sharktwit continues to astonish with his appalling ignorance.

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