Putin claims the West installed Jewish Volodymyr Zelensky as president of Ukraine 'to cover up the glorification of Nazism': Kyiv condemns his 'maniacal anti-Semitism'

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Sep 10, 2023, 01:52

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12485845/Putin-accuses-maniacal-anti-Semitism-Zelensky-comments.html?ico=topics_pagination_desktop

  • Putin has often claimed Ukraine is a Nazi state to justify his brutal invasion
  • This has been refuted by Kyiv, the West - as well as historians and academics - who say his assault on Ukraine is nothing more than an imperialistic land grab 


Sep 10, 2023, 05:33

BB

Proven fact is confirmed by video recordings that Nuland and Biden decided on an interim Government in Ukraine.in 2014.    

 Most of the Biden and Nuland in 20installed politicians are still in place Since there is no democracy left after discarding of the  Ukraine Constitution as a result of the 2014 Constitution the USA h as a proxy Government in Ukraine who does their and the USA blackmail the Ukraine Government through threats to withhold funding.    

Zelenskyy's election campaign was based on reaching a peace agreement with Russia and implementation of the Minsk agreement.- and then went to get more aid money out of the USA and he changed his tack immediately to serve the interests of te Biden Corruption bSter.     

Sep 10, 2023, 11:12

Anybody today still denying Ukraine is riddled with NAZIS is either an ignorant loon or a very lying loon or both. 

There is nothing democratic a out Ukraine. I predict that like Mussoluni the Ukrainian people will hang Zelensky. To avoid this Zelensky will have to flee the country. Hopefully he will flee to his huge mansion in Florida where a Trump Administration can in 2025  then bring him to justice.

Mike one has to keep hammering home the facts about this war. Maybe old blobbie will wake up screaming one night Mike and Beeno are right as the truth hits him like a sledge hammer. Is there any integrity left in ou blobster. 


Sep 10, 2023, 11:51

Simple souls don't understand "red herrings" and smoke screens. Zelensky, having Jewish background and being an actor was carefully selected by the plotters. A perfect candidate to throw that argument off track. Ironically when he was an actor, he played the role of a president in a popular Ukrainian film.

Some people are easily fooled.

Some people will sell their souls for money, recognition and power too you know.

In Gestapo death camps, during WW2 there were Jewish traitors who sold their brothers and sisters to the guards for favours and privileges...it is well documented.



Sep 10, 2023, 14:45

Gotta love the Vatniks here on forgetting that Putin once claimed Zelensky was not a real Jew.

Proven fact is confirmed by video recordings that Nuland and Biden decided on an interim Government in Ukraine.in 2014.    

The only proven fact is your a compulsive liar. As I've told you like 5 times already, it wasn't a video, it was partial audio recording of a phone conversation the Russian's released. Biden wasn't even on the call. And their was no deciding on an interim government, there was a decision on who the American's thought was best suited to take over in the interim and concluded rather unsurprisingly that the leader of the of the main Ukrainian opposition party was the best qualified/experienced person.



Sep 11, 2023, 07:17

Thing is that liberal societies are based on racism.

Racism collides with anti jew hatred in many cases.

Anri semitism refers to semite people which jews could be. Arabs too may be semites.

Today, though, a meaningful segment of jews are distinctly non semites, which makes their characterization as white people straightforward. Most of the israeli government personal are white people in the way they are non semites.

As such, an anti jew hatred works against white brothers and sisters for liberals. It has to be eliminated as it works against the cause.

Being a white person and being against jews collides frontally with racism.

There is absolutely no contradiction for a jewish person to be a racist.

That is the point Putin can not confess: the Russians are the doubtful white people. Not the jewish people. Jewish people can collude as they want with racist people.

It is quite often mentioned by Ukrainians when watching vids. Ukrainians refer to themselves as pure aryan white people in opposition to Russian people.

Putin is stuck: antisemitism as such was an heritage of the past, an heritage that is getting erased by racism.

Nazism is going to be absorbed by liberalism. Nazism and liberalism have a lot in common, the major divide in that liberalism excludes anti jewish hatred. Liberalism from the start was a positive change for jewish people. Nazism in this regard is an echo from the past.

Sep 11, 2023, 07:19

This explains how the ukrainian leader can post vids of himself with notorious ukrainian nazis.

He is not a dubious white, Russians are.

Sep 14, 2023, 07:44

Stav

There was a recording of he telephonic discussion with the US ambassador in Kiev that nobody denied took place - but there was a separate video recording during which Nuland discussed the issue and there was a Fox News discussion in 2015 already with photos where there were photos of Biden being introduced to some dubious people involved in the Bandrera based movement.   

The key selection thst started the civil war in Eastern Ukraine were the key reason of Russian hatred being he norm for their appointment.    There were also a video recording of Nuland being questioned in he Senate about Bio-Labs in Ukraine - which also you denied happened.

There are also the case that you claimed Bandera was arrested by the Nazi's.    That statement was plain BS.   He was living in a safe haven - a concentration camp operated by the Nazi's in Poland.    It was from that position that he was the de-facto leader of the Ukraine co-operation with Nazi Germany.   It was from there that Jews from both Poland and Ukraine were identified for extermination.   

The Polish Government waned Bandera to be exchanged for crimes against mankind after WW2 - the US would have nothing of it since they wanted o use him to undermine the Communist regime in Ukraine.    That is why he was never extradited and why in he end he was murdered in Munich.

Your other hero Soros was in the same category.  Soros's father was a  Yew by the name of Schwartz who got rich by identifying Yews for extermination.   So he changed his surname to Soros and used his son to deliver letters to Yews calling them to required meetings from where they were put on lorries and sent to extermination camps.  With them gone Soros took over their property and by that means enriched himself.

Soros a 14 year-old at the time and he claimed he did it only once - i was a lie - the process took place many times.   When the Russians captured Budapest Schwarz - aka Soros - rejoined the Communist Party and retained his wealth.    While it was impossible for ordinary Hungarians to leave Hungary - George Soros got a visa to study in London.    Soros is a Communist shit and remains a Communist shit to this day.     

Now back to Hungary - Bandera had followers that regarded him as their example to follow.  One of them was the Jewish oligarch that owned the TV station where Zelenskyy worked.   The same oligarch started the Asov brigade private army with their Nazi insignia in 1992.

A bit of research would show you what really happened.   in Ukraine since 1991 and especially with the coup in 2014.   Since then the USA had a proxy Government who dared not do anything against he wishes of the USA,   If they do there grant funding would stop.   Extremism remains a huge factor in Ukraine and the fact is the USA used extremists hating Russia in Governing in Ukraine.  Any Government in Ukraine going against USA wishes would not last 14 days,  

So the position is that the USA has a proxy Government in Kiev and that proxy Government comprises of Bandera followers as key elements.  It was so in 2014 and is still the case..    

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Sep 14, 2023, 20:50

but there was a separate video recording during which Nuland discussed the issue

Link to video?

Sep 14, 2023, 23:58

Good luck with that request.

Sep 15, 2023, 03:54

You bloody idiots saw the videos on site before and now a ear later demand that I must spent time to find hem again   You saw them  was  embarrassed and went quiet and next time he same videos are mentioned them I must find them again for you.   In any event the professor that expose he BS of the conduct of the American Government in Ukraine you tried to discredit too.    

What he said is totally in line with what I wrote about the issue and you would not admit the true situation because it goes against what you clamed and only Putin is to blame for what happened in Ukraine leading to the invasion.   It seems that more and more Governments realize that the whole USA conduct on the issue is unacceptable and they fear that they could become the next victims of the USA onslaught normally based on USA lies and deception and most of the clos US Allies like Eqypt and Saudi Arabia already joined BRICS - while another at least 50 are on the waiting list to join - Turkey being  one of those.   

I gave a typical example of how Biden blackmailed the Ukraine Government with a threat of withholding a $1 billion loan guarantee from Ukraine if the Prosecutor who had he audacity to have the home and office of the main shareholder searched or proof of corruption by Burisma.   Biden the made a claim that other countries asked him to act on the score to get rid of the Prosecutor based on a request of other "unknown" countries caused action on Biden's part ad a lie used to cover for his actions.   Fact is te search was done and the UK was delighted by the search since it was holding $28 million in frozen Burisma assets used for corrupt purposes.   The real reason was Hunter Biden was a Board member of Burisma and it was paid generously for doing nothing for the company other than being using his father as VP to cover up corruption by the company,    The trusted FBI informer that was paid numerous times for  genuine  and valuable info supplied to them submitted a report together with 17 telephinc discussions between The Chairman of Burisma and Hunter Biden and 2 recordings of discussions between the Chairman of Burisma and Joe Biden to the FBI,   Some insider leajed aaaaa copy of he repot to Senator Grassley and he then asked Wray of the FBI about the report.   Wray respoded that he is not aware of such a report (an obvious lie) and Senator Grassley said to him- "I have got a copy of the report and read it",   The next step of Senator Cruz was to ask whether a copy of the report will be made available to the Senate and he answer was  "No it is part of an ongoing investigation"   The house hen threatened Court action to get a copy of the report - whereupon the FBI then brought a heavily reducted report to the House and members could read it but not copy it.   Stupid isnce the House embers already had the full report anyway.    In he report was a statement that Burisma paid Joe and Hunter Bien each $5 million to get the Prosecutor fired.   The end result was that the Burisma investigation was stopped and the UK was forced to release the $28 million frozen Burisma funds held by them.   The real reason was that any Burisma investigation by the Prosecutor would lead to exposure of corruption by Biden, Pelosi and Schiff as well.

I deal with this issue to show how the USA government demanded obedience of he Ukraine Government by threat to withhold aid funding from Ukraine and that is why all peaceful efforts to prevent War in Ukraine was sabotaged by the USA Government.  

Be it as it may a civil  War broke out in 2014 n Eastern Ukraine because of a threat by elements in he coup-resulted Government to destroy the culture of Russian speaking people in Eastern Ukraine and he Crimea and if they resist oppression of Russian speaking people they would be expelled  from Ukraine hrough ethnic cleansing - a totally banned system b the UN.

Mozart then came up with a story about genocide to cover up the real threat of ethnic cleansing by elements in the Ukraine Government.   He further invented a meeting in Belarus attended by military staff   to deal with escape routs for fleeing Ukrainians and exchange of prisoners of war as a "peace conference"  - it was nothing of the sort and comparable to a peace conference.   The Ukraine representatives tried to hand over a list of demands to his Russian counterparts - which they refused to accept since they had no power to deal with an issue of that nature during the meeting. 

The above ha been proven by documents and video recordings and you two are brainwashed morons if you deny it happened.   .Look for instance at the following two videos as examples of ha a nearing on the Ukraine:-

 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NRaRL52DOIg

https://dailycaller.com/2023/06/13/yes-or-no-hawley-presses-fbi-official-release-biden-bribery-document-american-public/

Another example of what the USA represents at present.      

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K2SchsEilD 

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Sep 15, 2023, 07:01

You bloody idiots saw the videos on site before and now a ear later demand that I must spent time to find hem again

So your unable to to link to the video. Therefore I'm going to just dismiss your claim of such a video existing and not waste anymore of my time. Moving on to the next point you made.

there was a Fox News discussion in 2015 already with photos where there were photos of Biden being introduced to some dubious people involved in the Bandrera based movement. 

Link to the Fox News discussion please?

Sep 15, 2023, 08:26

I am not going to go through that Drama again.   By the way you are still saying the Justice Department, FBI and CIA are not the new USA Gestapo? 

Sep 15, 2023, 09:25

So you can't provide a link to that either.

So we can dismiss that claim as rubbish as well.

The key selection thst started the civil war in Eastern Ukraine were the key reason of Russian hatred being he norm for their appointment.

As you where unable to provide the previous requested links, this supposition can also be dismissed with no further effort.

There were also a video recording of Nuland being questioned in he Senate about Bio-Labs in Ukraine - which also you denied happened.

I made no such a denial. I said there was no Bio-Labs in Ukraine, and when I said that I was referring to Bio-Labs conducting research into bio weapons not Bio-Labs doing standard medical research something I clarified in another post.

There are also the case that you claimed Bandera was arrested by the Nazi's.    That statement was plain BS.   He was living in a safe haven - a concentration camp operated by the Nazi's in Poland.    It was from that position that he was the de-facto leader of the Ukraine co-operation with Nazi Germany.   It was from there that Jews from both Poland and Ukraine were identified for extermination.  

So if he wasn't detained by the Nazi's, why was in a concentration camp?

Also you're the first person I've heard refer to a Nazi concentration camp as a safe haven.

If he was actively co-operating with Nazi Germany, why did the Nazi's not allow him to operate freely in Ukraine?

What evidence can you provide that Bandera took part in identifying Jews for extermination while he was detained in that concentration camp?






Sep 15, 2023, 10:40

Mike, these links and news articles that you refer to should be so easy to find .... if they existed....

Put some credibility to your posts and put up the proof

Sep 15, 2023, 21:21

ouMaaik, shame on you:ermm:  .......... duplicitous in extremis deo

 
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