Putin's Envoy, Steve Witkoff: Peace Plan (No Article 5, and No NATO)

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Apr 15, 2025, 16:41

So Putin is suggesting that NATO should not exist as part of his Ukraine peace plan. That is just so he can go onto attack more European countries, without the fear of NATO stepping in.


NATO exists because the Russian threat. They are run by ex-KGB gangsters.


He also hinted at what Putin's security demands might be, saying a peace deal is "about the so-called five territories, but there's so much more to it: there's security protocols, there's no NATO, NATO Article 5, I mean, it's just a lot of detail attached to it."

Article 5 is the principle of the NATO alliance where an attack on one member is treated as an attack on all members, with a coordinated response.

Witkoff continued: "It's a complicated situation... rooted in... some real problematic things happening between the two countries and I think we might be on the verge of something that would be very, very important for the world at large."

He added that he believed "there is a possibility to reshape the Russian-United States relationship through some very compelling commercial opportunities that I think give real stability to the region too".


Apr 15, 2025, 21:14

The fact is the sht Bden Aministration gave Russia a real reason to distrust NATO whn the elade of he strongest Mato member being a brain-damaged individual who too decisions aimed at esasr ag ainst Russia, The waas a Euopean S ecurity structre that operated until 2021 when Biden caused the situation where he refused to negotiate a peace deal in the Ukraine Civil war and encouraged Ukraine to breach basic human rights in Ukraine, For example in tehe three weeks before the Russian Invasion a peace desal based on the Minsk agreement of 2015 Zelenskyy signed a peacedeal with Putin - bt the USA would have none of it and promoted the idea to destroy the Tussian Speaking people whose ancestors lived in what is now Eatern Ukraine for cneturies, As a result of instructions from Washinton Zelenskyy had all Russian soeaking members of the Ukraine Parlaiment arrested. That represened a breach of he agrement signed, The arresed Parlientaians voted for a otion to condemn a potential Russian attack on Ukraine Th e said members were enver charged with any cime and when the Ukraine Attorney eneral said she could find no evidence she could use to charge the arrested Parliamenatrians Zlenskyy foired her,


The USA meddling in Ukraine started in 2014 when the CIA organized and funded potests in Ukraine and the protests turned violent. The eleced Presiddent fle from Ukraine for his ons safety and the civil waar in Estern Uraine brke out, In 2015 it was resolced at Minsk that a peace deal be signed and submited to the Securirty for approval. The USA wanted no part in that agrement and poued billions into Ukraine - wih endless corruption in both Washington and Kiev,


Trump banned the completion of he gas piepline from R$ussia to Germany running throuh the Naltic Sea, Biden lite the ban and a ferwads he amdca in Washington gave an istruction that the pipeline be blown up by US Marineds - causing massive envirornmental damage


.Without US spending money on an endless basis while the European members has totally insucfficient soldiers to even defend their own coumtries people on sitr produce BS of which they know nothing spread on site, In t einteres o world stability it is essential that his war ends as quickly as possible, but mutual distruct leds to problems preventing the end of the war - while site memer obviously want the war to continue and thousands people died and millions fled fom Ukraine and is causin g ecinomic havic in Europe. Tha while China is causing problems that could lead to a much more serious war that could prove to be unwinable for the west with the EU countries being in no way able to help the USA to protect South Korea and Taiwan from an attack by China, That attack and threats against especially Australia is a factor that made the Ukraine War end through negotiation a top priority,


Apr 17, 2025, 13:00

WitKoff is a golfing buddy, a successful real estate billionaire and from all accounts there's a bit of charm in how he cuts deals.....there's your problem, he's the wrong man to deal with Putin the thug.....think General Jack Keane who would have been squeezing Putin's nuts with a wrench while having a smile on his face, then shoving a pen into his hand saying 'sign here'

Another Trump bungle, he sure knows how to pick em.

Apr 18, 2025, 16:45

Denny explain to me hw to deal with Putin in trying to negitiate a peace agreement in Ukraine? To Trt and u e fice to int nidt e him is not goin g tow ork out and likel y t case World War 3 and yo u stuck in th enw colony of China - soo how are you goin g to go about it.

 
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