Putin sorry over Azerbaijan Airlines

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Dec 28, 2024, 21:31

Putin cares about only about himself. The only time he is sorry. is when his actions harm himself

Not only is he killing innocent Ukranians, but now passenger airlines are also going down.

Dec 29, 2024, 10:35

There is no evidene that the plane was brought down by Russians deep in Khazakstan territory and the media failed to mention that in their report.   It was similar to what Happened to the Dutch Plane that was bought down by not te rebels in Estern Ukraine but 30 kms into terriotiry held by the Ukaine army.   The emdia went quiet n tha since the Ukraine rebels in the dombas area did not have the missiles bringing dwn the Dutch plane and the Ukraine army did.

Since the plabne was brought down in Khazakstan it ill be the Khazak government that wil decide what happened and allow for international investigation of what really happened to the plane,    Be it as it may the plane crashed and caused he death of people.  Looking at the pictures f the crash it wis not clear whether the plane was brought down by fire from the ground - but rather by a crash.     In fact is the plane was 500 kms off the route normally used by airlines and in South Russia some  airports were closed down because of drone attacks from  Ukraine.

My guess is that the plane ran out of fuel and crashed as a result,    If it was a military attack all the passengers would have died in the incident and there were also of survivors in this case and the plane did not burst into flames when it crashed,   In any such crashes the fuel would have caught fire anyway and there were no fires involved.

I would rather wait till the real cause of the crash has been investigated before pointing fingers at anyone. 

     

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Dec 29, 2024, 10:35

Duplication 

Dec 29, 2024, 11:07

 It was similar to what Happened to the Dutch Plane that was bought down by not te rebels in Estern Ukraine but 30 kms into terriotiry held by the Ukaine army.   The emdia went quiet n tha since the Ukraine rebels in the dombas area did not have the missiles bringing dwn the Dutch plane and the Ukraine army did.

Absolutely disgusting Mike. You literally have no shame.

https://www.prosecutionservice.nl/topics/mh17-plane-crash/criminal-investigation-jit-mh17

https://www.bellingcat.com/app/uploads/2015/10/MH17-The-Open-Source-Evidence-EN.pdf


Dec 29, 2024, 12:01

S o what was the ultimate findings Stav.     A plabne is shot down deep in the area operated by the Ukraine army and they tried to blame the rebels for shooting it down.   So what was the outcome of that investigation?   As far as I can remember the court could not find evidence of who was responsible for the rockets  ussed to bring the plane down and the Ukraine  Government restricted entry into the area where the plane ended up.   It was still about 30 kims inside Ukraine Government controlled area and was possible hit by a rocket at about 31 to 32 kms inside the Ukraine controlled area.    The plane was not brought down in territory occupied by the Rebels - if that was he case they were to blame.

As far as I can remember there were no conclusive prove that the Rebels fired any rockets that brought the plane down - but the media blamed the Russians from bringing the plane down.    There were no sanctions placed on Rssia when the Dutch plane was brought down - if they were the guilty party there would have been sanctions placed n Russia - but that did not happen.        

In this case the plane crashed in Khazaktan  and not in Russia and there were no sign of it being hit by a rocket or missile and no fire stemming from the crash indicating the plan ran out of fuel.   

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Dec 29, 2024, 13:40


In this case the plane crashed in Khazaktan  and not in Russia and there were no sign of it being hit by a rocket or missile and no fire stemming from the crash indicating the plan ran out of fuel.

Mike just can't stop shilling for Russia.

Dec 29, 2024, 13:49

Azerbaijan's president says plane that crashed was shot at from Russia

Azerbaijani President Ilham Aliyev said on Sunday that a passenger plane that crashed last week, killing 38 people, had been damaged by shooting from the ground in Russia, and he said some in Russia had lied about the cause of the disaster.

Russian President Vladimir Putin on Saturday apologised to Mr Aliyev for Wednesday's "tragic incident" in Russian airspace involving the plane after Russian air defences engaged Ukrainian attack drones. 

A Kremlin statement did not say Russia had shot down the plane, only noting a criminal case had been opened.

"Our plane was shot down by accident," Mr Aliyev told state television on Sunday, adding that the plane had come under some sort of electronic jamming and had then been shot at while it was approaching the southern Russian city of Grozny.

"Unfortunately, in the first three days we heard only absurd versions from Russia," Mr Aliyev said, citing statements in Russia that attributed the crash to birds or the explosion of some sort of gas cylinder.

"We witnessed clear attempts to cover up the matter," said the Azerbaijani leader, who has close ties to Russia and was educated at one of Moscow's top universities.

Mr Aliyev said he wanted Russia to accept it was guilty of downing the plane and punish those responsible for fatally damaging the aircraft.

Azerbaijan Airlines Flight J2-8243 crashed on Wednesday in a ball of fire near the city of Aktau in Kazakhstan after diverting from southern Russia where Ukrainian drones were attacking several cities.

The extremely rare publicised apology from Mr Putin on Saturday is the closest Moscow has come to accepting some blame for the disaster.

Four sources with knowledge of the preliminary findings of Azerbaijan's investigation into the disaster told Reuters on Thursday that Russian air defences had mistakenly shot it down.

Dec 29, 2024, 14:06

Putin said he was sorry for he people who died and not admit anything.   I do not know how the story about the plane being shot at when over South Russia when is crahsed in Khazakstan     There were mostly Russian citizens on the plane and it was NOT shot down in Russia - but crashed in Khazastan  not reaaching Russia at all,    I did not know that Russia had troops in Khazakstan that would shoot doen the plane in the latter country/    

 I am waiting for the official report as to what happened in fact and do not rely on fantasy reports from the media.   .   

Dec 29, 2024, 14:26

 I am waiting for the official report

Translation: I am waiting for the official Russian report so I know what position to take.

Dec 29, 2024, 15:14

Stav

The plabne crashed in Kazaksatn and the official report ill come from that country and not Russia.  You cannot be that stupid to believe what you came up with in this case.  The people who survived witll obviusly also be questioned as to what happened during the flight and hy was the plane beading hundreds f kilometers dfromt he normal flight route to Moscow.    

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Dec 29, 2024, 22:32

Azerbaijan Airlines said “physical and technical external interference” was the cause of a crash this week that killed 38 people flying to southern Russia, the closest officials have come to confirming mounting suspicions that the plane was downed by a Russian air-defense system.

The head of Russia’s aviation authority, however, countered the statement, saying the plane tried to land in Grozny in Russia’s Chechnya region amid difficult conditions during a Ukrainian drone strike. Russia hasn’t responded to leaked preliminary findings of an Azeri investigation that point to the plane being hit by a Russian antiaircraft missile or shrapnel from it.

The aftermath of the crash has struck a blow to relations between the former Soviet republics and led to an uproar in Azerbaijan, a small but increasingly powerful oil-producing country. The state-owned Azeri airline said it was suspending flights from Baku to eight Russian airports in the wake of the crash.

“The aircraft was shot down inside Russian territory in the skies above Grozny. And it is impossible to deny this,” said Azeri parliamentarian Rasim Musabeyov, speaking to Azerbaijan’s Turan Agency. He added that Russia should apologize and take adequate steps to compensate the victims’ families or face a grave deterioration in ties.

“Those who did this should be held criminally liable,” said Musabeyov.

Dec 30, 2024, 09:13

Yet the plane crashed in Kazahkstan  about 200 kms from Grozny - where the plane could not land becuase of  Ukraine drone activity.   The plane was destined to fly to Moscow at least 1 500 kms to the north of Grozny - so the question is why did the plane flew over Grozny and not towards Moscow in the first instance.

I think that the crash showed no sign of having any fuel left as there was no fire associated  with the crashed plane.   So what is happening is probably a pilot error and the plane being state-owned the Government is covering up for their own  deficiencies  and so an accusation that the plane was shot down by the Russians was the expected solution.

           

Dec 30, 2024, 10:24

 The plane was destined to fly to Moscow at least 1 500 kms to the north of Grozny

Where are you getting this from. All reports I've seen so far are that it was a flight from Baku to Grozny.

I think that the crash showed no sign of having any fuel left as there was no fire associated  with the crashed plane.

Because planes running out of fuel is a common thing in 2024? Are you going just ignore the photo I posted of the tail section of the plane that appears to show holes from shrapnel.

So what is happening is probably a pilot error and the plane being state-owned the Government is covering up for their own  deficiencies  and so an accusation that the plane was shot down by the Russians was the expected solution.

Must be great to just be able to make up whatever old crap you wanted. All evidence available so far is that the plane was likely accidentally shot down by the Russians.

Dec 30, 2024, 10:53

The forst report indicate that the plane was on the away from  Azerbayan to Mosco and was hundreds of miles off  route.    If the plane was on the way from Baku to Grozny you must be kidding - flights to Grozny is under restrictive orders since there is Drone activity of the wonderful democracy in Ukraine.    So the plane weird off coursde and crashed in Kazahkstan 200 kilometers from Grozny.

"Because planes running out of fuel is a common thing in 2024? Are you going just ignore the photo I posted of the tail section of the plane that appears to show holes from shrapnel."

Are you expert on results from shrapnel be damaged the ay tat photo is clearly BS,   That was not even a kind of damage  shotgun could be caught fired from a short distance.    Any shrapnel would have blown of the whole tail of the plane.

So what is happening is probably a pilot error and the plane being state-owned the Government is covering up for their own  deficiencies  and so an accusation that the plane was shot down by the Russians was the expected solution.

Tyical Tsav B S - no evidence so he believed media  myths and stick with it.   Since the plane crashed in Kazahkstan 200 kms from Grozny - I am awaiting the outcome of the situation of the Kazahk Government and said so clearly.      .     .    


 

   

   

 
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