Tbrump will stop that crazy US-insituted war in Ukraine,     It is clear that he will always put the USA ieresst first and not te corrupt elements in the USA  benefitting from he War.     What is amazing is that you now side wih the enemies of he USA like China, Russia and Iran - who supported the elecion of Harris all out and want the empty head Harris as President,  

No wonder Zelenskyy is now running to Trump for helping him and not ruling over him like the Biden Administration did,     No doubt Putin does not wans another Trump presidency and now refuse to  comgratulate him,

 A phone call or two will end the war based on the famous Minsk agreement  will be the answer.   It will end up to benefit Ukraine as well.    You must rate thank heaven that real BS like Harris did not win he election.  That would have caused WW3 and not prevent it,        

Ukraine will lose everything when Trump pulls the pin on them in the peace deal .

You are wrong...wag en sien.

Tell us more

In due time...

Go sit on your thumb, go for a spin.

In due time...

Would you mind tell us what you think Trump will do regarding Ukraine?

He will get them to the negotiation table for starters. 

So what happenedhus far iro Ukraine.   Zlenskyy had a telephonic discussion wit TRump and Putin said he will talk to Trump if TRummp calls hi or he may phoe Trump when he has been inaugrated.

So the atmosphere  has already changed.  From refusal by the WH to negotite with Russia and sabotaging talks and undermining peace and negotaang a ceasefire  to a different approch y Zlenskyy - who neds Trump's support to remian in power and from Putin, who wanted a peaceul settlment from the start and is now in a very strong pstition miliarily in Ukraine.   

In Germany the war hass weakened the German Federal Government and in recent State elecion in Germany the  Federal Govenment Partnrs.   - in the state elections the SDU collapsed in 2 and the Greens totally collapsed as well.   Now the leader of the Greens  in Germany - the main warmonges in Germany when it comes to the  Ukraine issue - said a new approach is necessary since he Rssians are advancing every day.    As it is - the Coalition as to appease the Free Democrats - who may not have any sets in the Reichstag next year if he Ukraine war continues.    In the meantime he three paries making up the Coalition Government are squibbling with each other on internal German politics as well.   The lates news is that the Chancellor has fired he leader o he FDP - the third coalition partne and called for a condidence vote on 15 Jnuay 2025 - which he will  dou lose - meaninga federal elecion in March 2025 and not as scheduled in September  2925.

The songest Party in Germany is he CDU  and its Bavarain Branch - the CSU followed by eh righing AfD - with at present WSJ Pro Rusians 3rd, the  CSU of Scholtz 4th  and the Greens 5th,   The Free Democrats- the third oalition partnes -  found that they are going to be wiped out in the next election  has already fld rom he siastrous for tem coalition - but ey would b loody licke o qualify and have a f membes in the Richsta g. So we will have two ne frin ge parties left in the Reichstag and the fact is they may even end up as non-existent politically parties in future, 

The Reichstag is in ession and if he opposiion calls for an immediate vote of no vonfidence the Scholtz Government will collapse and an elecion will be held before  middle January 2025        

He will get them to the negotiation table for starters. 

LOL...Its like coaxing a puppy out from under the bed.

Can you tell us what you think Trump's negotiation position will be. Or what sort of negotiated settlement you personally think would be a good deal?

I'll help you out, from various statements and interviews giving by people in Trump's camp over the last few months, its believed he would to do the following.

He would tell Zelensky, he must negotiate and make a deal or he will cut off America aid to Ukraine.

He will tell Putin, he must negotiate and make a deal or America will go all in on supporting Ukraine and give them everything they need militarily to win the conflict. There is also some suggesting in addition to that he might demand Russia stop supporting Iran.

The deal basically sees the war freeze along the present frontlines at the time of negotiations. And a demilitarized zone is set up along that line. 

Russia gets to keep all the territory it currently occupies in Ukraine with the exception of the two small area's of the Kharkiv Oblast is currently occupies, that will likely be swapped for the Russian territory Ukraine currently occupies in Kursk.

Questions like would Ukraine have to permanently cede the occupied territories or just temporarily, the return of Ukrainian children taken into Russia and if American would lift or partially left sanctions on Russia remain unclear.

Now regardless of whether you think right now that would be Trump's approach, would you suppo rt such a deal, if agreed by all parties?

What happens if Ukraine doesn't agree with this and decides to fight on without American help? 

What happens if Russia doesn't agree, would you be happy with Trump arming Ukraine to the teeth? 

Interestingly you may not be aware but Zelensky himself has hinted at a very similar deal himself just in the last month. One major difference though, that unoccupied Ukraine gets NATO membership. Would you support that deal?

I would be in favour of getting the fighting to stop immediately and then the people who live there should decide if they are part of Russia or Ukraine. I don't think Ukraine should be forced to cede territory...As for NATO membership for Ukraine...I don’t think Putin will stand for it...but I would gladly accept it if it's part of a workable peace deal...

Putin is in trouble already...Brent will soon be back to less than $50 a barrel...no more easy money oil deals all across the scoundrel country world...his cash cow will dry up quickly.

I would be in favour of getting the fighting to stop immediately and then the people who live there should decide if they are part of Russia or Ukraine. 

Well in theory that's a nice sentiment, but do you honestly think that the occupied territories of Ukraine would be given some sort of free and fair vote by Russia where they could choose to return to Ukraine?

 I don't think Ukraine should be forced to cede territory

Neither do I.

As for NATO membership for Ukraine...I don’t think Putin will stand for it...but I would gladly accept it if it's part of a workable peace deal...

Well I would support it as well if that's what Ukraine wants itself. But the question of whether Putin would accept that is an another story. 

Putin is in trouble already...Brent will soon be back to less than $50 a barrel...no more easy money oil deals all across the scoundrel country world...his cash cow will dry up quickly.

Well I also agree Putin is currently in trouble. I'm also aware of reports that Trump intends to increase oil production, to drive down the cost of oil, possibly to go as low as $40 dollars a barrel which would certainly hurt Russia and Iran.

The question is can he do it. Energy production is at record levels in the US, so it raises the question do US energy producers have the will and the capacity to further increase production. Secondly the price of oil is not entirely down to US production, how would OPEC members respond to the lowering of prices, they might not be so happy with that and may take measures to jack the price back up.

Economists do reckon he can lower the price of oil to about $50 dollars in the short term but probably won't be able to keep that low in the medium to long term.  Would that be enough to force Putin to the table is the question.

To sum up - the negotiaions wouldcener on implementation of the Minsk ageement and that a new Constitution f Ukraine o perate on a Federl basis,   Onc a suiable has been copiled he people must vote to accept it in a referendum.   Once approved it wold mean tat  Democrtaic elction to select a Governor for both of the two proinces.

Ultimately aNational Government will be elected nd tha Government will have powers to deal only with Naional issues,  feign is nd federal icome tax.   The run f the two federal provinces will be cotrolled by the Staeas thecase is woth USA States,/

Freedom os peech and believes will be protected in the Constotittion.

Al POW's wil be exchanged ba e Aov batallion who will be disbanded and sent to their returned o their counry of origin with a waning that they are classed a mercenaries by the US/

All biolabs will be closed forthwih and their patogens destroyedm

The Cirmea with it 96% population of Russians and Tartars speaking people - who want no ties with  Uktraine will remain part of Russia.   will remmain part of Rssia,       

Core t Mike Scholyz said the election of Trump had contributed to the collapse of his coalition. 

Both Xi and Putin are happy to talk peace with Trump. 

Ukraine will have next to no say. 

It's actually very easy. The Russian populated provinces revert to Russia. They will vote 95 percent for that to happen. These are old Russian provinces.

Ukraine become non aligned. 

Free and fair elections in what remains of Ukraine.  Zelensky gets the boot.

Hamas wants peace and is also calling for a ceasefire. They are ready to talk. 

Trump will bring peace undoing all the work Globalist puppets Biden and Harris did to feed the militady industrial complex, c rooked politicians  and  of course weaken and isolate the West.

Trump has listed one of his goals is to stop the dedollarization engineered by puppets Biden and Harris.

What mess this great man has to try and clean up!! 

"Well I also agree Putin is currently in trouble. I'm also aware of reports that Trump intends to increase oil production, to drive down the cost of oil, possibly to go as low as $40 dollars a barrel which would certainly hurt Russia and Iran."

He already did it before...Keystone is on again...much cheaper and cleaner to transport oil in a pipe than shipping it in from Venezuela. 

Puin may be in trouble - bt not a sbifg trouble the USA under Biden became,   

 "Core t Mike Scholyz said the election of Trump had contributed to the collapse of his coalition.

That remark is total BS.    There were three coaliton partnerss in the coalition that could neve work together harmoniusly  becuse they were the lefist SDU, TH e ultr-left Greens and the left of cente FDP.     

The coalition fucked up Germany totally and the problem got orse when Germany started supporting Ukraine and the USA blew up he Nortstream  Pieline poviding gas to Germany,    So gas prices went up 400% nd inflation caused havoc with the German economy.    The  suituation was critical as the German Parliamnet had to pass the budget this ear,    All three coalition partners want to spent available money differently and it was very complicated sicn in terms of he German constiution according to which budget increases may not be more than 1% of he GDP and the GDP went into recession wih no growth in te GDP of Germny,   

Another compliction is that in terms of he German contitution a party must get at leat 5% before they get reprresentation in the Reichstag  and wih the growth of the Afd there were 3 recent State lansdstag elections this yer in Germany in Thuringia, Saxony and Brandenburg  i which the three parties got te following seats  a

In the 3 states with 292 seats and the 3 Caokition paries won the following number of seats:-

*    SDP        -    50 seats 

*    Greens           5 seats

*    FDP                0 seats

Great achievement by the . coalition partnes,    The FDP realizes that being part of thta coaliion will destroy the FDP wll destroy the party totally.   The FDP demanded that some savings in Government expenditure be used to help indistry - while they also wanted social spending reduced. 

Over the past week there were a series of meetings by he hree party leaders Apparently it turned into open warfare to keep te coalition operaional   The final  meeting was held on Wedeaday evening the SDU leader - the Chacellor at present fired the leader of the FDP.   Scholtz suggested that a motion of confidence be dealt with on 15 January  by the Reichstag    It is likely that the Germans would have to bring the next general forwatd by at least 9 months,   The German debacle has zero to do with the Trump win in the USA,

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Total bollocks

Oh what's this a German politician showing a spine.

https://united24media.com/latest-news/ill-issue-putin-an-ultimatum-end-the-war-in-24-hours-or-ill-supply-ukraine-with-taurus-missiles-says-german-chancellor-candidate-merz-3673

Ners can say what he want to say, but he is the leader of the CDU party who has he support of 30% of he oers,   So he will have to remember what his Bvarian partners sayabout any issue,   He wil need to get a majority in the Reichstag - bit who could it be?   In the past it was he case tha coalitions will contain the present SCD under the leadeship of the current Chanchellor,   But opinion poll s indicated they will not have enough voteing suppot to get 50% plus one seat to form a  new coalition Govrnment./     The SCU is in horroble shit with less than 13% of he vote, 

The fact is according to opinion plls tthe second biggest party is the AfD with 23% support,   -   So it would be logiccal to form a coalition Government wih majority support 

The hid biggest Pary is the SCU  The frfth t biggest party is the WSJ - but  they are represneing Communism in Germany and suppoting Russia all out,    They are to the right of  he CDU and will  and is in for thzt reasson that Merz would have to stop amd impmen something that msy cost his party million of votd,   Nobody wantsa war against Russia.    

In the meanime the string of leaders seeking Trump help  to survive is growing on a daily basis saving them from he shit hey are in.    ,    

Well h is position on Africa is crystal clear ................... Shithole countries, which anyways he undoubtedly knows sweet f.a about.

Total bollocks shitory.

The 3 present collation parties in Germany combined are polling at 58% of the vote. They should be able to form a government just with the CDU replacing the SPD as the the largest party and the Chancellor coming from the CDU, I.E Mers.

There was already a majority in the German Bundestag who favoured giving Ukraine long range missiles, it was Scholz that blocked it.

The fact is according to opinion plls tthe second biggest party is the AfD with 23% support,   -   So it would be logiccal to form a coalition Government wih majority support 

You don't form a coalition government with a party you're id eologically opposed to.

No Denny 

Based on real acts as to he poltical situation at present in Germany.   he fac that the FDP with 02 votes in panic withdrew from the  German Coalition  Government left the other two polical parties ina minotity situaion i te Reichstag.   The two parite left in the Reichstag wants to delay the inevitable mtion of no confidence tio January - but wih the Reichstag in session hat coud change any time befre hen.    They ahve to pass e Geran Budget and wiould bee nable to do so.  

As to Merz his party and their Bavarian Conterparts the CSU has on pape the suppor of 30% of the voters and the Parties opposing the War has 32% of the vote.   - so chaces that Merz will succeed in that effort of his is about zero.   

The political leadersip in Germany is in chaos and every move to expand the war in Ukraine will cst the CDU and CSU alliance millions of voes and they will be in shit street too,   The Germans do not support any war against Russia,   

So my conclusion is that when Trump told them to jump - they would ask "How high"

Denny

I msy admit tha every ime you wrte shitory on what I posted - I have been 100% correct i what I wrote.   So keep up the "shitory" story  I know tha te otcome I forsee is 100% certain to be cprrect.  /      

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/31699874/ukraine-nuke-bomb-nagasaki/

Day 1000 of Russia's invasion ..................... 3 day war se gat se moer .

Slava Ukraini

Foolish person, do you not realise its all going to plan for Russia. Putin always planned to launch more than three hundred and thirty three 3 day special military operatio ns!

BS in buckets - but the Ukraine have nothing to show in he War thus far - bar losing territory and being slaughtered.    You wants a war and got one and you have zero to show in any advantages fro Ukraine at all.   

Trump wants a peaceful settlement and will get it - because Putin knows better about Trump as a strong leader and a top negtiator - putting the USA inerests always first.   Unlike that village idiot Biden - who was too afraid of Putin making a total areshole of him and would not meet to discuss preventig or ending the War.    

I always laugh when BB and Stav contnuously promoed the start of WW3.   What an idiotic approach .        

"As some security analyst's have suggested if Ukraine feels its being backed into a corner, it may feel it has no other choice.

This strikes me as an attempt to put pressure on Trump. Even if it’s feasible there is no scenario where Ukraine dropping a nuke on Russia is the best strategy. It would be a disaster,

How this all ends is anybody’s guess, but Trump may be in a  position to help. Not because he is uniquely capable, but because he  is not compromised by prior commitments. His only commitment is his promise to end the war. If he can’t it will be very damaging.

But extracting a secure honorable agreement out of this mess that secures the emerging Ukraine seems a long way away. Hopefully I’m wrong the geo political risks and on going suffering in Ukraine has to come to an end.

Instructed Chat GPT to privide me with likely and possible candidates for discussion at negotiations. 

Territorial Issues

1. Control over Crimea: Whether Russia retains Crimea or if its annexation is reversed.
2. Status of the Donetsk and Luhansk regions: Determining their governance, autonomy, or reintegration into Ukraine.
3. Borders and Demilitarized Zones: Establishing secure and internationally recognized borders, possibly with neutral buffer zones.
4. Control over other occupied territories: Resolving the status of territories seized by Russia during the 2022 invasion.
5. Territorial Integrity Guarantees: Commitments from Russia to respect Ukraine’s borders in the future.

Security Arrangements

6. Ukraine's NATO Membership: Deciding whether Ukraine can join NATO or remain a neutral state.
7. Neutrality Agreements: Discussing Ukraine's potential non-alignment with military alliances.
8. Military Presence: Limitations on foreign troops, bases, and weapons near each other's borders.
9. Ceasefire and Monitoring: Agreeing to cease hostilities and establish international monitoring mechanisms.
10. Denuclearization or Arms Control: Addressing the presence of nuclear or advanced weaponry near conflict zones.

Political and Governance Issues

11. Status of Russian-Speaking Populations: Protecting the rights of Russian-speaking minorities in Ukraine.
12. Governance of Contested Areas: Offering autonomy or special status to contested regions as part of a broader political settlement.
13. Election Guarantees: Holding internationally monitored elections in disputed regions.

Economic and Humanitarian Issues

14. Reconstruction Funding: Agreeing on funding for rebuilding Ukraine's war-damaged infrastructure.
15. Sanctions Relief: Discussing conditions under which Western sanctions against Russia might be lifted.
16. Energy Agreements: Resolving disputes over natural gas pipelines and other energy infrastructure.
17. Humanitarian Aid and Refugees: Addressing the return and reintegration of refugees and displaced persons.
18. Reparations and Compensation: Determining whether Russia will pay reparations for damages caused by the war.

International Oversight and Guarantees

19. Peacekeeping Missions: Deploying UN or other international peacekeeping forces in disputed areas.
20. Guarantees by Third Parties: Securing commitments from global powers or organizations to enforce the agreement.
21. International Observers: Involving neutral parties to monitor elections, ceasefires, and compliance.

Legal and Historical Issues

22. War Crimes Accountability: Addressing the prosecution of individuals accused of war crimes.
23. Recognition of Sovereignty: Russia’s recognition of Ukraine as a fully sovereign state, including contested territories.
24. Historical Narratives: Reconciling differing interpretations of history between the nations, such as the Soviet era and WWII.

Cultural and Identity Concerns

25. Language Rights: Protecting the cultural and linguistic rights of both Ukrainian and Russian speakers.
26. Education and Media: Ensuring unbiased narratives in schools and media in both countries.

Economic Relations

27. Trade Agreements: Reestablishing economic ties severed by the conflict.
28. Transit and Exports: Resolving disputes over export routes for goods, including grain and energy supplies.
29. Debt Forgiveness or Adjustments: Discussing the financial implications of the conflict on Ukraine.

Geopolitical Concerns

30. EU Membership: Addressing Ukraine’s aspirations to join the European Union and Russia’s position on this.
31. Geopolitical Influence: Resolving concerns over the West’s influence in Eastern Europe and Russia’s sphere of influence.
32. Regional Stability: Agreements on policies that ensure the stability of other former Soviet states.

Miscellaneous

33. Future Military Alliances: Rules on Ukraine forming future military or economic alliances.
34. Russian Interests in the Black Sea: Agreements on access to and control over Black Sea ports and waters.
35. Energy Independence for Ukraine: Reducing Ukraine’s reliance on Russian energy supplies.

This list covers a broad spectrum of contentious issues that are likely to arise in negotiations. Each of these points would require compromises and guarantees, making the talks complex and prolonged.

Using, the points under Territorial Issues above...

I told ChatGPT to imagine it was the lead negotiator for Ukraine, and negotiate as best it can to get the most for it's client.

1. Control over Crimea

• Opening Position: Crimea is a sovereign part of Ukraine as recognized by international law. The annexation by Russia in 2014 is illegal and must be reversed. We demand the full return of Crimea to Ukraine.
• Compromise Position: If Russia refuses outright withdrawal:
  • Consider offering Crimea a special international administration for a transitional period (e.g., 10 years) under UN or neutral oversight, during which the status of Crimea will be determined through an internationally monitored referendum.
  • Russia must withdraw military forces from Crimea during this period.
  • The rights of ethnic Ukrainians, Crimean Tatars, and other minorities must be safeguarded.

2. Status of Donetsk and Luhansk Regions

• Opening Position: Full reintegration of Donetsk and Luhansk into Ukraine under its sovereignty and legal framework, with no exceptions.
• Compromise Position: If reintegration meets resistance:
  • Offer autonomy within Ukraine, provided:
    • All armed groups in these regions are disbanded and disarmed.
    • Ukraine retains control of external borders.
    • Ukrainian law and taxation systems are reestablished.
    • Local elections are conducted under OSCE (Organization for Security and Co-operation in Europe) monitoring.
  • No veto powers over national policies will be granted to these regions.

3. Borders and Demilitarized Zones

• Opening Position: Ukraine demands the restoration of its internationally recognized borders, with Russian forces withdrawing entirely.
• Compromise Position: To ensure peace and security:
  • A demilitarized buffer zone could be established along the border with international peacekeeping forces (UN or OSCE) overseeing the region.
  • The zone could extend into Russian territory as well, ensuring mutual security.

4. Control Over Other Occupied Territories

• Opening Position: Immediate and unconditional return of all territories occupied by Russia during the 2022 invasion.
• Compromise Position:
  • Any Russian withdrawal must be accompanied by a commitment to fund reconstruction efforts in these areas.
  • Local governance in these regions could be subject to transitional arrangements, with OSCE or UN oversight to ensure stability.
  • A timeline for withdrawal can be negotiated (e.g., phased withdrawal within 6-12 months).

5. Territorial Integrity Guarantees

• Opening Position: Ukraine demands legally binding commitments from Russia to respect its sovereignty and territorial integrity, backed by guarantees from major powers (e.g., the US, EU, and China).
• Compromise Position:
  • Russia signs a non-aggression treaty with Ukraine, ensuring no future attempts to seize territory.
  • Guarantees must include severe penalties for violations, such as automatic reinstatement of sanctions or military support to Ukraine from guarantors.

Strategic Concessions

If Russia resists on all points:

• Ukraine could offer conditional neutrality (non-NATO membership) in exchange for:
  • Total withdrawal of Russian forces from occupied territories.
  • Recognition of Ukrainian sovereignty over its entire territory.
• Trade-offs could include the joint development of disputed areas, such as Crimea’s Black Sea resources, under international oversight.

Red Lines for Ukraine

1. No permanent loss of territory without internationally verified and legally binding guarantees.
2. No compromise on the right to self-determination for Ukrainians in occupied areas.
3. No veto or undue influence for Russia over Ukrainian domestic or foreign policies.

By maintaining a firm stance while showing flexibility in transitional or phased arrangements, the goal is to secure Ukraine’s sovereignty and territorial integrity while paving the way for long-term stability and peace.

Then I told it to provide the most obvious vectors of attack utilised by the Russians during the negotiation of the above...

The Russians, during negotiations on the territorial issues, would likely exploit specific vulnerabilities or points of leverage to maximize their position. Here are the most obvious vectors of attack Russia would likely employ:

1. Control Over Crimea

• De Facto Control Argument: Russia will argue that Crimea is already integrated into its territory, with a substantial majority of the population supporting the annexation (based on their controlled referenda). They will present its return as non-negotiable.
• Military Presence Leverage: Threaten to escalate military deployments in Crimea and Black Sea regions if Ukraine pushes too hard for its return.
• Economic Dependency Argument: Emphasize that Crimea’s infrastructure (water, power, etc.) has been restructured to depend on Russia, making reintegration economically unfeasible for Ukraine.

2. Status of Donetsk and Luhansk Regions

• "Protection of Russian-Speaking Populations": Russia will frame its involvement in these regions as necessary to protect Russian-speaking citizens from alleged Ukrainian aggression.
• "Autonomy Equals Neutrality": Push for full autonomy or even independence for Donetsk and Luhansk to establish Russian-aligned buffer states, weakening Ukraine’s central authority.
• Election Manipulation: Insist on elections in these regions under their own terms, knowing they can control or influence the outcomes through proxies.
• Destabilization Threat: Suggest that without Russian oversight or autonomy guarantees, these regions could erupt into uncontrollable violence again.

3. Borders and Demilitarized Zones

• Demilitarized Zone Exploitation: Push for demilitarized zones that favor Russian interests, potentially carving out strategic areas of control near Ukraine's borders.
• Asymmetric Withdrawal: Insist that Russian forces can remain in certain areas as "peacekeepers," while demanding that Ukraine disarm along its border regions.
• Security Guarantees from the West: Exploit Western reluctance to commit troops to enforce buffer zones, portraying Ukraine as incapable of securing its borders without NATO, which Russia opposes.

4. Control Over Other Occupied Territories

• Time-Wasting Tactics: Drag negotiations into lengthy debates over phased withdrawals, during which Russia solidifies its hold on the territories.
• "Reconstruction Bargaining Chip": Offer vague promises of reconstruction aid in exchange for concessions on territorial claims, knowing these promises may never materialize.
• Threat of "Frozen Conflict": Imply that without compromise, these areas will become another prolonged frozen conflict (like Transnistria), effectively undermining Ukrainian governance.

5. Territorial Integrity Guarantees

• Questioning International Guarantees: Highlight previous failures of guarantees (e.g., Budapest Memorandum) to portray any new guarantees as unreliable and meaningless.
• Selective Recognition: Offer to respect Ukraine's sovereignty but only over non-contested areas, carving out Crimea, Donetsk, and Luhansk as "exceptions."
• Leverage Over Western Powers: Exploit divisions among Ukraine’s Western allies, particularly over whether territorial integrity guarantees are enforceable or desirable for NATO/EU.

General Russian Vectors of Attack

1. Leverage Over Western Sanctions: Tie any concessions (withdrawal, reconstruction, ceasefire) to demands for lifting sanctions, pressuring Western countries that are economically affected.
2. Weaponizing Time: Delay negotiations indefinitely, solidifying territorial changes on the ground while exhausting Ukraine's resources and political will.
3. Portrayal of Ukraine as Uncompromising: Use propaganda to depict Ukraine as the unreasonable party, unwilling to negotiate or compromise.
4. Economic Leverage: Threaten to disrupt energy supplies or trade routes crucial to Ukraine’s economy if demands aren’t met.
5. Internal Political Pressure: Exploit divisions within Ukraine’s political system and society, emphasizing the cost of prolonged war to turn public opinion against continued resistance.

Counteracting These Tactics

• Ukraine must anticipate these arguments and prepare strong counters grounded in international law, evidence, and geopolitical support.
• Maintain solidarity with Western allies to prevent Russia from driving wedges between Ukraine and its supporters.
• Emphasize the long-term costs of continued conflict and frozen disputes to global stability, appealing to international interest in a sustainable resolution.

By recognizing these tactics in advance, Ukraine can remain on the offensive during negotiations and minimize concessions.

Lets drill down further, into just "

• Ukraine must anticipate these arguments and prepare strong counters grounded in international law, evidence, and geopolitical support."

Impressive

Stav

:The 3 present collation parties in Germany combined are polling at 58% of the vote. They should be able to form a government just with the CDU replacing the SPD as the the largest party and the Chancellor coming from the CDU, I.E Mers:

Where the hell did tha polls cm from and why is it totally against the outcomes of the State elections held this year in September,  .   

That poll figure look vey much like the media shit polls showig that Harris would win in the USA.   Polls I saw indicates that the SDP polls at less than 15% and the Greens at 7%,  The CDU wil not form a ccoalition with the Greens that destroyed their image in Germany and the Bavaria branch of the CDU - the CSU -- would not support any Government which the Greens is a partner in/ 

So the CDU may try and get a minoriy Government with the SPD operational - but that wil lave Germany iwthout a stromg Government.  The problem is that he CSU the Bavarian branch of the mzjority party will not support  war wih Russia neither will the WSJ and AfD,   Any warmongerig party will lose millions of votes and end up in shit themselves because the electorate knows that EU countries cannotwin such a war and the USA army at present is heweakest it has ever been since 1918 due etirely to wole ideaology the US Army command tried to intrduce in the US Army.   So the created quotas for recruitment for soldiers sex changed individuals, inner city Blacks and women . etc,    The could not reached the recruitment targets, and then the D P came p with a new suggstion namely to recruit new soldies from the ielgal migrants ib he country and for recruits be given US citizenship  the moment they joined he arm raining programs.   Since tens of thousands of migrants come rom Muslim countries  and from China the voters will not allow that  to happen,

Th irther problem encountered iro of 60 000  US Army soldiers refused to accpt Covif vccination.   The eaction f he army command was to arrst he soldies concerned _ teat tem like shit and hen fore them.    It was mstly fighting soldiers aan w hen the Deense Force discovered the results of their action theey pleaded with the fired soldiers to return to th rmy and the sodiers refused o do so.   As to be expected that soldiers refused to return - once bitten twcic shy -  and the fact is the USA army ost 60 000  fightng soldiers in te process .   So h fat is that about 30%  of their best soldiers were gone.   The proble wa caused bythe political woke promotion army officers prmoted under the Biden regime and those were likely to be send packing by Trump and normality in the army will  be restored.

That was and is he main reason for Hegseff's appointment as Secretary of Defense.   The ofier orps o e army needs to be restored  and a new recruitment  strategy  without  quotas and the woke agenda may resor to normality the quota situation.     In he meantime the recruirs in erms of quotas will all be ismissd nless hey pass a suitabiliy test nd fond thy are nt associaed with the DemocraicParty terrorit subsidiaries - BLM and Antifa - both started by Obama  to terrorise the communitis into submission.   They organized the 2020 riots on behalf of the DP and also the Hamas riots at univesities of a few monhs ago.    in bot cases the riots were funded by th same people - George Soros and  the Pritzker Faily Trust of which the Governor of Illinois is part of the management.   In 2020 the Democratic Party controlled Congress refused to allow fo  congrssional investigation  of he 2020 riots snce i a finded by money made available to the DNC that paid all the expenses of the rioters  aand eience like tht should be hided from the public,   the murderers nd attckers onthe Police wil now b e re-arrested and eveybody involved from the DP wil end up in jail.

In th meantime he USA amy is in a weakened conditionand they will suffer e conequences of their actions  - which will include high treason, terrorism promotion, murder, atacks on police and Government infrastructure - both Govermental and prive sector properties.   Th public will become aware of what the DP did and the Prtywill sufer the consequenc in future.   There are a minorityof around 15 House members who may leave the DP and he voters will take their revenge on the DP in the mid-term election in future,   

In the eantime the damage don to the US Army will have to be repaired and the same applies to the FBI and the CIA,    If the whole  re-organizio of the ffice corps  in the army and officials in he Dparment f Justice and the FBI is resored the rcovery of he  Defnse F orce, the BI and the CIA will be restored to their nomal Constiutional  requirements an th shi ruling he USAwil be out and honesty in Government will be restoredm     That will add srength to the country frm especially the armed forces.as well.   

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This strikes me as an attempt to put pressure on Trump. Even if it’s feasible there is no scenario where Ukraine dropping a nuke on Russia is the best strategy. It would be a disaster,

Well its more the threat of using a nuke that's may serve to deter future Russian aggression. 

How this all ends is anybody’s guess, but Trump may be in a  position to help. Not because he is uniquely capable, but because he  is not compromised by prior commitments. His only commitment is his promise to end the war. If he can’t it will be very damaging.

Well one can't predict the future. I don't think Trump failing to end the war will be all that damaging to him. I don't think his base really cares all that much about Ukraine anyway. Asides from that he made plenty of promises on the campaign trail before his first term that he didn't deliver on. Build a border wall with Mexico, clear the national debt etc.

I am curious of those on here about the feeling of those that have expressed a desire for the war in Ukraine to be ended via negotiations and also support Trump.

What if Putin simply doesn't play ball with Trump's plan, would they support Trump if in response he decided to massively increase military aid to Ukraine?

Seems like you care more about Trump looking bad than the Ukraine war ending, Star. Or is it that you care more about Trump looking bad AND his supporters being proved wrong, than you do about ending the war? While everybody else is simply hoping the war will end, you seem to care far more how Trump and his supporters will come out looking at the other end.

Let's just remember that the Dems failed to stop the war. And t hey had more than enough time.

But sure, let's ask you a hypothetical in return.

If Trump does manage to end the war...will you call it a coincidence, or will you admit that since he was able to end the war then he may have also been able to prevent it had he been elected in 2020?

Seems like you care more about Trump looking bad than the Ukraine war ending, Star. Or is it that you care more about Trump looking bad AND his supporters being proved wrong, than you do about ending the war?

What I care about is ending the war on terms favourable to Ukraine.

Let's just remember that the Dems failed to stop the war. And they had more than enough time.

The difference is the Dem's didn't say they could stop the war in a day. Nor did the pressure Ukraine to make concessions which may not be true of Trump.

But sure, let's ask you a hypothetical in return.

You didn't answer mine but sure.

If Trump does manage to end the war...will you call it a coincidence, or will you admit that since he was able to end the war then he may have also been able to prevent it had he been elected in 2020?

Its possible he may have prevented the war if he was President in 2020 regardless of whether he ends the war when he's President again. I just consider it very unlikely either way. 

This point ….if not recognized has the potential to end serious efforts to control the proliferation of nuclear weapons. If you are Iran, or North Korea or Israel why would you not want the security.

• Invoke the Budapest Memorandum:

  • Stress that Ukraine surrendered its nuclear weapons in exchange for security assurances from Russia, the US, and the UK. Russia’s violation undermines international disarmament agreements.

Agreed, Moz.

I say that a lot of the points, and indeed strategies, that GOT came up with are very good.

It's crazy how quickly I could build up a semi-reasonable negotiation strategy using AI.

I mean, it's obviously not perfect, perhaps not even close to perfect, but how many people would have to be paid how much to come up with a negotiation mind map like that?

For me, it's a perfect example of the use of AI. Where it can build you a very solid base for a project, in record time. And then the informed person can build on that with more nuanced information.

I'm willing to wager that one reasonably informed person, using AI, could out negotiate almost any group of people on earth.

"I say that a lot of the points, and indeed strategies, that GOT came up with are very good."

I always wa against his war - like I was against the 2nd Iraq War.   I aways quoted a French friend of mie who told me that in the history of Europe countries  may win battls - but stil lose te war,   It always happened in cases  involvin g Muslim fanaics  nd also in other wars within  Europe.  

It happened to Russia in two cases - in the Napoleontic wars and in the asion of Nazi Germany where in the end the Russians destroyed two mighty empires,  After those two wars were lost Napoeon's rule collapsed and  East Germany and all counries in cnetral Europe ebcame slave counries uled by Stalin.

Now back to more recent history.   In 2001 the USA invaded  ghanistan only o end up feeing from that country in panic in the middle of the night in 2021.   Th cond case wa in 2003hen he USA invaded Iraq and  he counry is ruled by fanatics who hate he USA  - while he S Army is stuck i camps all over Iraq.   A ter mor than 20 years here is no winner and only chaos in Iraq,  

The USA in 2014 and ler on under Biden thought Russia as so weak that trained Ukrainian troops  provided by NATO countries will destroy the Russian Army and  the lad to Government collapse in Russia,    So in 2014 the USA funded and organizd a coup in Ukraine thatled to a civil war in Eaterm Ukraine,  

When teh Presidential election was held in 2019 Zelenskyy promised in his election campaign that he would end the civil war  in Eastern Ukraine trhrough negotiations.   A fter Roud one of he eelction he got 29% of the vote - in Round 2  his promise to ed th Civil War throug negotiations turned into a landslide in his favor.

But he soon discovered that it did not tie in with the ideas in Washington to destroy Russia through a war between Ukraine and Russia - which the warmongers in Washington believes would cause victory fri Ukraine and capse of the Russian Government and dismembering of Russia into five or six smaller countries that could be managed easily by the USA>

It did not happen and nwo the push is for getting WW3 started.   No doubt the war in 2022 started n thta prmis of the USA Government.    I a recent Congress hearing it came out hat the  Deese coud nt provide anyhing s to the Ukrine War and there wre no future planning iro the Ukraine War.   The US Defense Force stated there is no plan for stopping  another endles War, while knowing full well  that  the Ukraine army canno win he war,   TNrump wants to stop the War through negotiation and eveybody on site thinks that Ukraine will be the loses in such negotiations,

Tat is not Trump's style of negotiation and Putin knows that as well.   He would bI beleieve take the easy way out,   The impleentation of the Minsk agreement already signed twice by Putin.    That would leave in  the position where Ukraine wil retain the country  existing in 2015 - when Ukraine was already part of Russia and will neer be returned to Ukraine.   From their  trump wilinsist that the full Minsk agreement be implemented  and will conceed that all the Ukraine Biolabs operated by the US Defense Force will be closed/    

or the rest Ukraine wil not be allowed to become a mmber of NAO and a ne Conmsitution in Ukraine be developed and a referendum be held o gt approval of he Constitution.  for Ukine.  The implemtation will be contrlled by a Committe of Nat Members, russia and Ukraine.   Onc that was done the Russians will ihdrawn form Ukraine .

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Rooinek and childishness reign supreme again/   

1. Control over Crimea

• Opening Position: Crimea is a sovereign part of Ukraine as recognized by international law. The annexation by Russia in 2014 is illegal and must be reversed. We demand the full return of Crimea to Ukraine.
• Compromise Position: If Russia refuses outright withdrawal:
  • Consider offering Crimea a special international administration for a transitional period (e.g., 10 years) under UN or neutral oversight, during which the status of Crimea will be determined through an internationally monitored referendum.
  • Russia are unlikely to agree to this as they have repeatedly said control of Ukraine is an absolute red line for them but even if they where to do so in order to obtain a ceasefire they may just renege on the deal 10 years down the road.
  • Russia must withdraw military forces from Crimea during this period.
  • Russia will never agree to that.
  • The rights of ethnic Ukrainians, Crimean Tatars, and other minorities must be safeguarded.
  • Russia could agree to this or take the position that they are all ready safeguarding those rights. But as long as Russia maintain controls Crimea there is no way to ensure they do. (they clearly aren't)

Only watched to the end of the second season of GOT.

Yeah yeah...I know it's amazing.

So I hear

The abe isues b  Syav is the biggest cncoction of BS anybody could put on this site/  

None so blind .............................

Maybe one day you'll explain your Putin fanboy fantasy ................ this monster that has your unquestionable support & consistently remains devoid of any criticism whatsoever ....... truly sh ameful, an RTnews echo chamber.       

Maybe one day you would learn why the war in Ukraine started and why it should be stopped through negotiation - sabotaged by the US  Giovernment from the world go.   Maybe you would discover that the wars invlving the USA is driven by bribery and corruption.  Maybe you would learn that the War in Ukraine started as a result of the US A of Ukraine in 2014 causing a civil wn Ukraine and peace negotiations was three times sabotaged by the USA Government,

Maybe should also learn that elements in the USA are using the Ukraine for forbidden gain-of-function biolabs in Ukraine used and funded by the US ovrnment - who moved that research from Wuhan to Odessa.

Maybe you would realize that the answer is real megotiations to end the BS and the USA using  the  Ukrainians  as proxies like Iran used Hamas and Hezbollah against Israel will stop as a result.

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Stav

I read the points and the first sentece of the Crimea is BS supreme.  S o I did not read any further,   Crimea was before 1953 a part of Rusia and tha wetn on until 1991 when the Comunist regime  fell,

The Ukraine Constitutio dealt in detail with the Crimea issue  took a special place,   It was included that domestically te Crimea would ahve their own elected Parliament that govern al domestic Govnance of the Crimea - Rusia was to lease their naval bases from the Ukraine Government for an indefinite period and the only functions the Ukraine Government itself related to central Government tax collection and Foreign Affairs,

By 2014 there wer NO Ukraine soldiers in the crimea but 11 000 Russian solders were there servig in the abses of the Russian navy in Sebastopol,    There were only 5% of te population were Ukrainians - t he oher 95% were Russians (85%) and Tartars (10%),   Ibn reality and ties between the  Crmea was very little  as the Crimea was self-governing the area in erms of the Crimea clauses in he Ukraine 1991 Constitution.

When the coup in Kiev took place and the Urkaine Constitution was nullified by the incoming regime controlled by the USA  took over in Kiev te situation in Ukraine was messy and let to a civil war in Eastern Ukraine.   The Crimea Parliament was the only governance body ef in the Criea and ithout any cnstitution the Crimea Parliament deccided to hold a referendum on the issue of the future of the Crimea and called a referendum as t th future of Ukraine,   95% of he population voted to be joining Russia.   In two opinion polls conducted by  a Grman andUS polsters indicated tha the dsupport to jin Russia gre to 96.5%.   

Nobody in the Crimea wantrd t b part of the contitutionaless Ukraine - but them the USA would never cunenance he iddea that they wanted t take over the Russian Black Sea bases and nobody care about democracy and thishes of the people living in the Crimea,

So wat came out above is BS -  with discasing of the Ukraine constitution the Crimea was left withou any Government and the people deied n heir own furute in a referendum.   Since the Ukraine Constitution was discarded the legal tes y Ukraine and the Crimea was ended and that was the end of the links between Ukraine and the Crimea,   

Tger si n way tht Russia will hand back the Crimea to Ukraine or any other body controled by the USA.   Ukraine is not negotiable and that was realized by the time  the Minsk agreement was negotiated.     

There could be a solution in what a new Cnstitution of Ukraine bsed on a federal state can be negotiated and approved by the peopele of Ukraine in an international monitored referendum - but the fact is the Ukraine voters would vote again for being part of Russia so they may vote to remain being part of Russia.     

Ukraine have a btter chance to retain the whole of the rest of Ukraine - but a ne DEMOCRATIC constitution approve by all the voters in Ukraine will be possible,,  Nobody in Eastern Ukraine will agree to remain part of Ukraine governed by a  banana republic dictatorship like the case is at present.    

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Absolute shitori- fictional  bollocks. ......... what a shame.

STAV 

ukraine had no Nukes in 1992 ad sig ned a treaty prohibiting development of Nuclear Arms and in the Constiution prhinbit such nuclear arms development

If they  have such nuclear arms at present it could only come from ONE Source and that would be the USA.    Instwad of tying to ensure world stablity and peace the Biden Regime is trying to start WW3.   I woud not be surprised if the present USA  Governmnt did  supply a nuclear bomb to Ukraine and hmelves doing such an attack t ensure the start of WW3,  ensure the start of WW3 asap.

I have a question for you and BB though - Do you suppot Democracys as te ideal form of Government - plain  "YES  I do or NO I don't,".?

Yes,  100 %,  I do .

Be good if you would answer questions instead of referring everything back to the effing Minsk blah-blah .

Easy dimness

I asnwered the questions clearly and precisely.

The Misk agreement did not contain the situation prevling in the Crimea and admitted that hat happened in the Crimea was accepted by all partnes and signed by the Pesidents of Ukraine and Russia - as wella s Macron and Mertel and was referred to the UN Security Counicl for acceptance - which happened unanimusly.   The treaty was never submitted to Congress as required by US Law.

So what do I support i.r.o peace negotiations in Ukraine and acceped by he U S Seciruty Council:

*     That he 2015 borers of Uraine be respectd by all participansts involved,   - I stick with that one.

*      That to ensure proper and demcratic Gernance in Ukraine as wella s human rights protection is thatanew and democatic Constitution with a Fedeal concept based on the US Constitution.   Since the 2014 coup  Ukraine has had no Constitution and the ide was to get Ukaine abck to being a democatic country - protecting the human rights of all Ukaie sitizns 

*      That the condiions adhered to in the 1955 agrement in  the case of Austria and contained in the 1991 agreement on expansion of NATO be adhered to and that Ukraine not be allowed to join NATO.   That is nothing new  Austria has strictly kept to he 1955 agremeent and is still fully independent and democratic while not a member of NATO.       Based on hisoric fact ad agreements going back to 1990 on he issue should remain in force.   I support this concept as well.  

Russia did  nothing when the three Baltic Republics joied NATO other than protest about it as a breach of the 1990 agreement and did nothinwhen other countries in central Europe joined NATO -but they all rtained heir constitutions and even in countries wih russian speaking people the counries reatained their constitutions guaranteeing protection of human rights.

The USA Biden Administration realized that a  new Constitution in Ukraine would weaken their control  oe the Ukraine overnment,   When Zelenskyy was campaigning for election as  President he would sart negotiations tos top the Civil War in Eastern Ukraine.   He was clarly told by Senator enendez that if he takes that route he USA will end all financial assistance to Ukraine and as forced to obey USA instructions.   

Since Tump wa fighing for his political ife absed on the Russian oax and he wanted to find out about the corruption involving Biden, Pelosi  and Schiff involvong aid to Ukraine being icked bck to especially the hree people managed - Pelosi and Schiff deided o tryand impeach him through fake charges,    The onmgoig protction aracket of crupt USA poltcians in Uraie is shocking and needs to be dealt ith,     Simply put US politicians wants to keep the Ukraine War going so  as prtec people invovled in corruption in Ukraine.

BB

You claim you support Democracy 100%.   Fie I agree with you there. 

Then how come you support the abolishment of Democracy and banana republic dicatorship in Ukraine who has no Consitution guranteeing human rights and freedoms.        

How come you support Putin, the biggest villain since Hitler ?

Name onm case where I suppor Putin iro he Uraine War.   I sid the February 2022 inmvasion was wrong - but unlike te si idios I could understand why it happened and from the word go insisted on negotiations to prevent andend it.

The USA refused to even negotiate anythinmg - they wanted the war and  supported it all out.  Why did that happen?    There are limitless opportunities for corruption and fraud attached to wars and for US Politicians and bureaucrats that is an opporunity never to be missed.

 The Afganistan War lasted 20 years and the Iraq qwar is in its 21 years an  is ongoing - so fter Afghnistan a new war was essentail for he crooks and that played  a major role in decsionmaking in the USA isofa as Ukraine is concerned,

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Seems to have gone somewhat unreported, but the Ruble is really starting to tank hard. Been dropping in value against the dollar for the last month and a half.

https://www.exchange-rates.org/converter/usd-rub

Also if there is any merit to the below,   the Russian's are really playing with fire.

"How come you support Putin, the biggest villain since Hitler ?"

Yeah, Putin is for sure worse than Stalin and also Pol Pot.

He didn't actually say worse.

Stav

I ask you a simple question.   Dio myou support Democracy as the drving force of freedom or don't you.   Please give us an anwer 

Pol Pot, Idi Amin, Slobodan Milosevic, Muammar Gadaffi, Donald Trump, Josef Stalin, Adolf Hitler . . . they all have something in common.

They were all deeply flawed human beings unfit to lead anyone or anything who were supported into power by very stupid and gullible people.

Lol...Malles, wag maar...

Rooinek is a idiotic doos

Etav just fo your inomtion Tump has appoited General Kellog as his point man in Ukraine so negotations on negotiations on the Ukraine War wukk satart before e end of Jnnuary 2025   

Th e ollowing wa cotained in the announcmwnt on heneral Kellog:-

.""I am very pleased to nominate General Keith Kellogg to serve as Assistant to the President and Special Envoy for Ukraine and Russia," Trump posted on his Truth Social platform. "Keith has led a distinguished Military and Business career, including serving in highly sensitive National Security roles in my first Administration. He was with me right from the beginning! Together, we will secure PEACE THROUGH STRENGTH, and Make America, and the World, SAFE AGAIN!"

BB

Have you ever writtem  anytthing based on fact n site.   By the way dimness  the Russians removed all nuclear bombs from Ukraine to Russia in 1992 and Ukraine signed the Nuclear proloferation Treaty and adhered to it atleast until 2014,   Ukraina adhered strictly with that treaty and did not develop a nuclear bomb until that date,    

If they did subsequetly develop a nucear bomb one wnders where the enriched uranium needed to produce such bombs does not exist in Ukraine and if hey suddenly have nuclear bombs then it must have been done with the assisance of the USA or he USA may secretly provided such bombs to Ukraine - thus breaking nternational  treatie on that issue. 

I would not be surprized if Biden acted criminally on the latte issue-  - on a riminal always a criminal applies 100% to Biden.  

And tha supe-iiot poto you use eminds me of Mayorkas - te Xretary of homelad Scrity who impeented the nightmare exiting i the USA with he Open Boder polciy he impemted,    Mayorka may end up in jail because he betrayed the contry,   

With Musk, Zuckerberg seen how Harris misspent the $1,5 billion donated to get her  elected totally. The DNC is now tryng to raise $20 milion needed to pay outstanding acounts. Now Morgan said Harris has no talent and to run in fuure in any election. So it is down to Gates - an alleged Epstein crimiinal - and Soros are left as the only major sponsors,    .   

As I was saying ........................