"To be an enemy of the US is dangerous, but to be a friend is fatal" - Henry Kissinger
"To be an enemy of the US is dangerous, but to be a friend is fatal" - Henry Kissinger
It is only the MAGA rednecks that think 6th was a conspiracy.
Pence Mike, Former Vice President was in the news over the last few days:
On Saturday at the Gridiron dinner in Washington, Pence told journalists and their guests: “President Trump was wrong. I had no right to overturn the election, and his reckless words endangered my family and everyone at the Capitol that day, and I know that history will hold Donald Trump accountable.”
Pence rarely addressed January 6 in the months after the riot but he has now upped his criticism of the rioters and Trump. In a memoir released in November 2022, Pence accused Trump of endangering his family.
“What happened that day was a disgrace,” Pence told the Gridiron audience. “And it mocks decency to portray it any other way. For as long as I live, I will never, ever diminish the injuries sustained, the lives lost, or the heroism of law enforcement on that tragic day.”
Pence making a nod to the MAGA fools - telling them they are not decent.
Th e news was made up BS to cover the fucking liars. Did you watch the released tapes because it is high time lies are disallowed because there are brainwashed idiots like you who believes the BS.
Pence family and himself was endangered? Amazing - why was the man with the hanging equipment not arrested and charged? Why did they lie about the murder of 5 police officers only one of whose names were released and why was the man whose name they did provide shown by the Security Cameras seen working on things and walking around in the Capitol hours after he was supposed to be murdered?
In terms of law why was the security cameras videos not released to the lawyers who had to defend the few accused actually charged?
Lastly - why are hundreds of people held in jail without being charged with anything for over 2 years. Is that the way democracies operate or is it the way dictatorships operate?
Answer the above factual questions fully. You have been so indoctrinated that you believe everything the Democrats wants you to believe and the media lies are part of it so I do not expect an answer to the above questions.
It's Hollywood country that's why they get away with murder.
Everything becomes a show in the end. Facts have merged with fiction as in the coup video I posted. They are above the law and have lost their grip.
Bravo Mike Pence.
Pence is trying to become the Republican candidate in 2024. He gets no support from the more conservative news agencies and his support amongst the electorate - it is ranked as 1% in opinion polls and hope the Trump issue could be used in this case.
What is dealt with in this thread is the January 6 debacle created by the Democrats - in many ways similar to the Russian Hoax story, which the same members fell for in the past six years. What is worse - the Democrats did their best to undermine the US judicial system by withholding crucial information in court cases and their lies about the incident. Pence will withdraw his comments when the real "threat" to him is dealt with by the House in a real judicial-based investigation of what happened and who really was threatening Pence in videos.
Why did none of the site members respond to what really happened in the January 6 incident and why did they not answer the questions I raised above. That is the issue here - not trying to sidetrack it the way SB and now BB did.
I am amazed by the response to this thread. Opened and watched 106 times, it resulted in only three people responding making sensible comments on the issue twice and SB trying out a diversion story and BB supporting him.
One would not accept even a slight comment on like "Sorry - I based my comments on media stories which I thought was true and lately found out they were lying."
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I call it conspiracy theories although both were based on lies concocted by the Democrats and therefore not emeting requirements to be called conspiracy theoriesand in both casees criminality is involved:-
The Russian Hoax
I was always amazed by the amount of BS spread on this site about Collusion between Trump and Putin and the thousands of lies leaked by the FBI and the CIA - acting on behalf of the Obama Administration to the emdia and faithfully published on this site by our brainwashed idiots on site. Numerous investigations showed it was all BS and there was no proof of links between Trump and Putin on the election issue.
To save face the brainwashed idiots now claim that Russia interfere by messages on the internet platforms. How important was that interference - analyzing spending patterns by Russian institutions during the election time only $41 000 was spent - a laughable amount of money that was dismissed as a joke by the Twitter journalists giving evidence under oath in the House.
The Democrats claimed that their computer was hacked - but never reported it to the FBI for further investigation - why was that the case? They also claimed that the Trump campaign provided confidential information on the election - but when challenged on what information was involved - they mentioned issues like opinion polls that the Russians could have gotten from daily media reports anyway.
Documents actually hacked from her Campaign Manager Podesta's computer indicates that if there was any interference by the Russian Government it would favor Clinton. Both of them was up to their necks involved in corruption involving Russian Companies with links to the Kremlin.
The 6 January 2021 Insurrection
Now here we had the real case made up by the Democrats for propaganda purposes. They started off by making claims on the media by protestors being armed and launching a violent attack on the Capitol. What happened was that the Democrats further claimed the protestors wanted to hang Pence for being complicit in authorising of the election outcome.
In their propaganda the Democrats claimed the leader of the attack was a funny bloke dressed in funny clothes. He was accused of being a leading instigator of the so-called insurrection and is now in jail for that crime. The House felt there were serious allegations involved in the case and it was agreed that 4 Democrats (one of which would be the Chairman) and 3 Republicans would serve on the Special Committee investigating what happened. However Pelosi irregularly decided that the number should be changed to 5 Democrats and 2 Republicans. The Republicans objected to the change and then nominated their two Representatives - but Pelosi refused the nominations and then added Cheyne and Kirzinger to represent the Republican Party. It was also agreed by the Pelosi-nominated Committee that people giving evidence will not be questioned by anybody - which is in itself is not meeting any judicial requirement at all.
It now transpired that the security camera footage was not provided to the Committee members and what happened was a show trial by the Democrats advertised in the media every night and repeated the next day by our site members. It all sounded bad - but the way in which the "hearings" was conducted also held to actual charges against some "insurrectionists" - while more than 600 arrests were made. A relatively small number of charges were laid and people received jail sentences as a result. The rest of the arrested people are still in jail for circa 785 days and no charges were in fact laid against them. That type of conduct by Government is more associated to police states than a democracy.
When it came to arrests of insurrectionists there were some really serious anomalies, In the media there were video recordings of a man by the name of Ebbs inciting the people to enter the Capitol and leading the entrants in doing so - he never was arrested or charged with anything by the FBI. The unidentified "protestor" carrying the hangman's noose to hang Pence was also not arrested or charged. Why should that have happened?
What Pelosi also did is to refuse to provide any evidence from security cameras in the Capitol to anybody - even the Chairman of the Pelosi Committee claimed he did not have insight into those recordings. That also means that vital evidence was withheld from defense attorneys of the accused people - which is not only irregular - it is a crime in itself to deliberately withheld crucial information from the Defense in Court cases.
The new Speaker after consultation with the Washington Police provided the full recordings of the security cameras to Fox News. They did a detailed review of what actually happened in the Capitol and what came out was there was really no "Insurrection". There were some windows broken - in itself was a criminal activity that should be dealt with in a Court of Law. However, none of the window breakers were actually arrested and charged. An example was that the so-called leader of the "Insurrectionists" were trailed walking alone in the Capitol and in the whole process was accompanied by at least 2 Capitol Police Officers and at one stage there were 9 Police Officers standing around and he and his two accompanying Policemen just walk past them. He was not arrested while in the Capitol and left the building after thanking the Police for their help. When his Defense Attorrney saw what happened he said the road to dictatorship is what happened in that court case. It was totally illegal and unacceptable.
What the evidence did show is there was never a sign of any violent attacks on anybody shown in the videos. There was factually no insurrection at all. The Democrats claimed there were murders of Police Officers by the insurrectionists - but they only provided one name. They alleged that the Police Officer was murdered by an assailant - but no charges were actually laid for murder by anybody. The security videos showed the said officer walking around in the Capitol after his alleged "murder" took place. The other 4 "murdered" police officers were never named - but Biden made them into heroes protecting Democracy in the USA.
So what do we have in this case - it is not a conspiracy theory - it was a case of lies and undermining of human rights and judicial criminality on an unbelievable level. So what do we have on both the mentioned two cases - both were based on lies and disinformation - as well as a political witch hunt based on a level never experienced before in the history of the USA.
So what can we expect from the brainwashed idiots on site. They will not react to what was disclosed in the security videos - but they will obviously continue with their lies in future - the brainwashing in their case was total and irreversible.