Listen Denny - don't be a fool. The Crimea in terms of the 1991 Constitution had the same level of power than USA States have, They had the Crimean Parliament that cover all powers bar foreign affairs and national tax collection.
The Crimean population comprises of 85% Russian Speaking people and 10% Tartars - woth Ukrainians and other alnguage speaking like Greeks amke up the populaion. Everything was done Costitutionally and in teh Constitution was for Russia to use the Black Sea fleet bases in Ukraine on a permanent basis,
However - thes ystem collasped in 2014 when the coup in Kiev put in power with the help of the USA put in power people who hated evceryhing rRussian and part of that was to introduce a policy to force the 30% Russian seaking populaion to change their home language to Ukraine and destroy Russian culture in Ukraine. It lead to a Civil War starting in Eastern Ukran in 2014. It lead to a serious problem in the Crimea - who did not want ecyension fo teh Ukraine into the Crimea and let to the Crimean Parliament calling for a refendum as to the future of the Crimea to determine whethe the Crimea should remain part of Ukraine - become a seperate country on its own or .apply t Russia o ebcome part of teh Russian Federation.
94,5% of the voters voted for the alst option and the EU countries in the MInsk agreement agreed that Crimea was n longer a part of Ukraine. In the emantime the oppression fo Rssian ended up in banning of speaking Russian in public and fining people if they speak Russian in Public. Gradually the situation got from bad to worse, In 2015 the Ukraine usng the infamous Asov battalion to deal with Russian speaking inhabitants in Ukraine and the result wa that the Battalian murdered over 3000 people in Odessa and Mariopol. When the matter was reported to the UB - the Battalion wass decalred bsed on prof supplied as a terroist and mercenary force by the UN and to allow the USA to keep arming the battalion it was absorbed in the Ukraine Army on the insistence of the USDF since the USA are not supposed to provide arms to such an organization
Be as it may as part of te ongoping Civil ar near to 15 000 of the18 000 people killed were murdered by what was the Asove brigade as part of the Ukraine army. In 2019 the Ukaine Government banned the teaching and using of Russian in Ukraine schools and in banning he Ukraine Orthodox Church of which 80% of the Ukraine population was linked to because of unproven links to Russia, The final nail that lead to the intiitial Russian inasion was the rrrest of all the Russian speaking members of the Ukraine Parliament.
In essense the fact is tha the Ukrsine Government said that if people do not abandon their language and culture they must be removed from Ukraine by ethnic cleansing. The ancestors of those people lived in what was today Easern Ukraine for centuries and had n links with Ukraine until 1953 when the USSR Communst Government was dealing with the Ukraine conduct in WW2 when major elements in Ukraine fought it teh German Aemy againstt eh Russian Army. As a result Stalin sent millions fo people - inclusive of the Tartar population in the Crimea to slave camps in Siberia where 90% of the deprted people died. After the death of Stalin the Communist Regime decided to let the slave camp survivors to return to Ukraine and the Crimea. The Communist Regime distrusted he Ukrainians and decided to reduce the impact of the Ukrianian speaking community in Uraine by increasing the are which was cfor centreis part o ussia into Ukraine to reduce the impact of the Ukraine speaking people in Ukraine,
Come aong 1991 the Ukraine borders set in 1953 ws an issue as well All Ulrainians were protected by the new Ukraine Constitution and based on protection fot eheir huaan righst by the Cnstitution the bordes were decribed and included in the Constitution and the powers of especialy was increased to provide a Parlaiment to ru he Crimea, However in 2014 the Ukraine constitution was discarded by the new regime installed that eliminated the human rights of all people living in Ukraine and the result was he Civil War in Eastern Ukraine.
So the question you and everybody supporting the present Ukraine Government should ask - =is are he Russian speaking people in Eastern ukraine human beings with human rights. o present acooriding to teh Kie regime they hae no huaan rights and unless they comply with the rues f the dicatotrshi in Kieve they are to be expelled from Eastern uraine and the Crimea.
There sis no way that the Criea cans til be regarded as part of Ukraine and anybody supporting that idea are sidding wth human rights oppression in its worst terms. The return of the Crimea to become part of Ukrine again is total BS and sis never ging to happen - iresspectie of wha Zelenskyy said.
Retuning of the Crimea to Ukraine represents the worst form of human rights oppression in the world comaprable to what si expected from criminal and communist regimes. If you support that you are siding with dictaotrial contriol -s mehing you yirsel suffer from under the previous NP regieme. Your hatered of Trump means he killing and oppression of millions of epopel is in your books acceptable/ . . . . . . . .
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True to form, Donald Trump has again launched into victim-shaming Ukraine’s president and taking Vladimir Putin’s side after Volodymyr Zelensky repeated that Crimea can never be given to Russia.
The US president was right when he said in his latest post on social media that “there’s nothing to talk about here” when it comes to Crimea – but not for the reasons that he lays out in his characteristic rant.
Zelensky “will not legally recognise the [Russian] occupation of Crimea”, not because he’s intransigent, but because constitutionally he cannot do so.
But that nuance has escaped Trump, who has left US scholars warning of a potential constitutional crisis after he issued a record-breaking number of executive orders during his first 100 days of office.
From Ukraine’s perspective, what the US president does at home does not matter. But what he does to Ukraine could be strategically disastrous.
The last time Trump snarled at Zelensky, he also suspended military aid to Ukraine and later cut the flow of real-time intelligence. The latter came at the same time as Russia launched a largely successful campaign to drive Ukrainian troops out of the Kursk salient inside Russian territory.
Trump said Zelensky’s insistence on hanging on to Crimea was “very harmful to the peace negotiations with Russia, in that Crimea was lost years ago under the auspices of President Barack Hussein Obama, and is not even a point of discussion”.
Well, it is a point of discussion. Russia’s invasion and illegal annexation of the peninsula were a violation of international law, and are still considered as such by the US, along with most nations across the planet.
“Nobody is asking Zelensky to recognise Crimea as Russian territory, but if he wants Crimea, why didn’t they fight for it 11 years ago when it was handed over to Russia without a shot being fired?” Trump asked.
But Zelensky wasn’t president back then, and there were powerful fifth-column forces inside Ukraine’s political and security fabric that undermined an effort at defence. On top of that, Ukraine was entitled to defensive support from the US and UK under the terms of the Budapest memorandum when it gave up its vast nuclear arsenal. Instead, both countries turned away and even blocked lethal aid for years.
Ukraine, meanwhile, cobbled a military together and fought Russian-backed troops and invading forces across the Donbas before the front lines became largely frozen in 2015.
But this doesn’t matter to Trump, because he sees Crimea, and much of the east of Ukraine, as naturally Russian. Partly because it’s been conquered, and partly because the Russians say they want it.
“The area also houses, for many years before ‘the Obama handover’, major Russian submarine bases,” he continued. By that token, Warsaw, Prague and Tallinn are also Russian territory – which is what Putin thinks.
“It’s inflammatory statements like Zelensky’s that make it so difficult to settle this war,” Trump said. “He has nothing to boast about! The situation for Ukraine is dire – he can have peace, or he can fight for another three years before losing the whole country.”
Militarily, Ukraine is better off than it was when Trump last turned off the military aid and intelligence spigots a couple of months back. This is because Europe, including the European Union, have been preparing for the moment when Trump throws a tantrum again. They are now bigger donors than the US is to Ukraine, and have been rushing to fill future gaps in intelligence, telecommunications, and arms.
Russia, meanwhile, has been losing momentum on the battlefield. The Kremlin is now sending cold and lost legions of African and Chinese mercenaries to fight in a drone war where Ukraine has the edge. Putin was flat-out wrong when he said Zelensky is a man “with no cards”.
A ceasefire at this time best suits Russia.
Trump said: “I have nothing to do with Russia, but have much to do with wanting to save, on average, 5,000 Russian and Ukrainian soldiers a week who are dying for no reason whatsoever.” If that was his real view, then backing Ukraine with the power it needed to end the war by breaking the back of Russia’s military machine would save Ukrainian and, in the end, Russian and European lives.
Trump has adopted Russia’s terms as his own in every aspect of his so-called peace process.
Ukraine knows that. Europe knows that. His best option, now, is to walk away from his abortive talks on behalf of the Kremlin, and keep the military aid flowing. He can at least then say “I tried.” And history will be gentle over his attempts to end what he calls a “total MESS”.
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