Trump to go to jail for election fraud?

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Jan 03, 2021, 21:58

He appears to have tried to force Georgia to create artificial votes for him - political coercion to an election official. Possibly a bribe or and a threat.

He wants everyone to agree with him to be a "team player". He is even taking his own vice president to court to try to prevent him approving Biden. 

There is another open case for Trump actively suppressing the black vote which is election fraud. (At least in a Democracy). 

They say the punishment should fit the crime, and this would be poetic justice.

Jan 04, 2021, 01:34

Bunker down, the Trump-Puppets will be here shortly to justify his latest shenanigans.

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Jan 04, 2021, 08:00


Jan 04, 2021, 18:42

Thanks for that Draad. It certainly puts everything in context. This is probably unwise on Trump’s part, but you have to sympathize with his utter frustration as these party bureaucrats refuse to re-examine the count with considerable evidence that things aren’t right.

Jan 04, 2021, 21:20

The video is conclusive proof that Trump is trying to force an election official to cheat. 

They told Trump over and over that the election results are correct.
Then Trump just says he needs the votes and it is fine for them to be recalculated. He even tells them how many votes he needs.

Trump thinks he won because he got lots of voters, even though Biden got more votes. Trump probably does not consider many Americans as actually American, so he discounts these votes. 

When Trump is finally arrested he may claim insanity, and that he believes he actually won the election

Jan 04, 2021, 21:20


Jan 04, 2021, 22:56

Quote the bit where he is asking the official to do anything  illegal....and  that wouldn’t be the bit where he is asking the man to find more legitimate votes. The floor is your’s.

Jan 05, 2021, 02:08

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Jan 05, 2021, 07:52

That's the edited version. From the full version it's even more clear that it's just another attempt by yhe media to twist the facts...making one wonder what's not a lie....interesting times indeed.

Jan 05, 2021, 13:42

'Truth matters’ - Georgia official explains why he resisted Trump pressure

Cuthbert, Georgia - Georgia's secretary of state, Brad Raffensperger, says he was just following the law when he rejected claims by Donald Trump, his fellow Republican, that the president's election defeat was the result of widespread fraud.

Trump returned the 65-year-old former businessman to the limelight when he called Raffensperger on Saturday to badger him to "find" enough votes to reverse Democratic President-elect Joe Biden's victory in the state, according to audio of the call published by the Washington Post on Sunday.

As Georgia's top election official, Raffensperger oversaw multiple recounts of the November 3 ballots, each of which reached the same result - that the southern state had narrowly favoured a Democratic presidential candidate for the first time in a generation.

In the face of Trump's unsubstantiated claims, Raffensperger echoed the findings of his counterparts across the United States that there was no evidence of widespread election fraud.

Interviewed on ABC's "Good Morning America" on Monday, Raffensperger said the White House had pushed him against his better judgment to take Trump's call.

"Did you consider it a lawful request when the president asked you to find the votes?" Raffensperger was asked.

"I'm not a lawyer. All I know is that we're gonna follow the law, follow the process. Truth matters, and we've been fighting these rumours for the last two months," he replied.

Having for weeks pushed back against Trump's unfounded claims of fraud, he told Trump on the call on Saturday that the vote showed Biden was the rightful winner.

"Well Mr. President, the challenge that you have is the data you have is wrong," Raffensperger could be heard telling Trump on the recording of Saturday's call.

The White House declined to comment.

Raffensperger and his colleagues for weeks had warned that Trump's rhetoric placed them in danger.

"Stop inspiring people to commit potential acts of violence. Someone's going to get hurt, someone's going to get shot, someone's going to get killed," Gabriel Sterling, the manager of the state's voting systems, said at an emotional Dec. 1 news conference.

Noting Raffensperger's wife had been getting sexualized threats, he added, "It has all gone too far. It has to stop."

It was unclear if the state had taken security measures around Raffensperger after the threats emerged.

After years as a civil engineer and successful businessman, Raffensperger served two years on a city council and four years in Georgia's House of Representatives before succeeding Kemp in 2018 as the top election official.

Acquaintances of Raffensperger in the state House described him as a "straight shooter" who backed traditional Republican priorities, supporting a bill to cut regulations on small businesses, for example, and voting against a tax on gasoline, according to a profile in the Atlanta Journal-Constitution.

A lifelong Republican, Raffensperger was an early supporter of Trump in 2016, and the president returned the favor by endorsing him for secretary of state. But whatever goodwill existed between the two men has since disappeared.

"Brad Raffensperger: he's not some liberal. Like he's no hero of mine," Hillary Rosen, a Democratic strategist, said on CNN. "He is a solid conservative Republican standing up to the president. That's what makes it so significant."

Trump's relentless attacks since the November 3 election included an accusation that Raffensperger hid tens of thousands of illegal votes, ensuring Biden's victory. Georgia's Republican incumbent senators - David Perdue and Kelly Loeffler - have called on Raffensperger to resign.

Perdue and Loeffler themselves are locked in tight campaigns ahead of Tuesday run-off elections that will determine which party controls the U.S. Senate.

Raffensperger has come under fire from the party establishment across the state for not bending to Trump's will.

Ronald Ham, the Republican party's head in rural Brantley County, said Raffensperger should take Trump's allegations about voter fraud more seriously. He said there were discussions among some party leaders about recalling him.

"I've been a little too critical of Brad, but where there is so much smoke I would want to verify," Ham said. "He's a good guy, but he won't survive re-election if he gets that far."

Raffensperger told the Atlanta Journal-Constitution in late November that he and his wife of 44 years had leaned on their faith to cope with the pressure.

"We're straightforward people, simple people," Raffensperger said. "We're quiet people in an unquiet role."

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