US engulfed in crisis as Covid death toll hits 250,000 – but there are signs of hope

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Nov 20, 2020, 00:35

Nov 20, 2020, 02:03

Yes there are Trump’s Operation Warp Speed.

Nov 20, 2020, 02:55

Operation Warp speed is a marketing gimmick. 

The US was always going to invest the most in the vaccine research and development.
It is taxpayers dollars. 

If Winnie the Pooh was running America, the US would have still invested more than other countries in the best vaccine candidates. 

Pfizer received no help from Trump. They are self-funded. 
The Oxford vaccine would have gone ahead, regardless of the US president. 

What exactly has Trump done in operation Warp Speed, other than release taxpayer dollars.

The record vaccine development was down to newer techniques being used, courtesy of recent research into other Corona vaccines and Ebola etc.

Nov 20, 2020, 06:56

Hell of a marketing gimmick!

development so far include:


March 30: HHS announced $456 million in funds for Johnson & Johnson's (Janssen) candidate vaccine. Phase 1 clinical trials began in Belgium on July 24th and in the U.S on July 27th. Janssen's large-scale Phase 3 clinical trial began on September 22, 2020, making them the fourth OWS candidate to enter Phase 3 clinical trials in the United States. Up to 60,000 volunteers will be enrolled in the trial at up to nearly 215 clinical research sites in the United States and internationally.


April 16: HHS made exit disclaimer icon up to $483 million in support available for Moderna's candidate vaccine, which began Phase 1 trials on March 16 and received a fast-track designation from FDA. This agreement was expanded exit disclaimer icon on July 26 to include an additional $472 million to support late-stage clinical development, including the expanded Phase 3 study of the company's mRNA vaccine, which began on July 27th.


May 21: HHS announced up to $1.2 billion in support for AstraZeneca's candidate vaccine, developed in conjunction with the University of Oxford. The agreement is to make available at least 300 million doses of the vaccine for the United States, with the first doses delivered as early as October 2020, if the product successfully receives FDA EUA or licensure. AstraZeneca's large-scale Phase 3 clinical trial began on August 31, 2020.


July 7: HHS announced $450 million in funds to support the large-scale manufacturing of Regeneron's COVID-19 investigational anti-viral antibody treatment, REGN-COV2. This agreement is the first of a number of OWS awards to support potential therapeutics all the way through to manufacturing. As part of the manufacturing demonstration project, doses of the medicine will be packaged and ready to ship immediately if clinical trials are successful and FDA grants EUA or licensure.

July 7: HHS announced $1.6 billion in funds to support the large-scale manufacturing of Novavax's vaccine candidate. By funding Novavax's manufacturing effort, the federal government will own the 100 million doses expected to result from the demonstration project.

July 22: HHS announced up to $1.95 billion in funds to Pfizer for the large-scale manufacturing and nationwide distribution of 100 million doses of their vaccine candidate. The federal government will own the 100 million doses of vaccine initially produced as a result of this agreement, and Pfizer will deliver the doses in the United States if the product successfully receives FDA EUA or licensure, as outlined in FDA guidance, after completing demonstration of safety and efficacy in a large Phase 3 clinical trial, which began July 27th.

July 31: HHS announced approximately $2 billion in funds to support the advanced development, including clinical trials and large scale manufacturing, of Sanofi and GlaxoSmithKline's (GSK) investigational adjuvanted vaccine. By funding the manufacturing effort, the federal government will own the approximately 100 million doses expected to result from the demonstration project. The adjuvanted vaccine doses could be used in clinical trials or, if the FDA authorizes use, as outlined in agency guidance, the doses would be distributed as part of a COVID-19 vaccination campaign.


August 5: HHS announced approximately $1 billion in funds to support the large-scale manufacturing and delivery of Johnson & Johnson's (Janssen) investigational vaccine candidate. Under the terms of the agreement, the U.S. Government will own the resulting 100 million doses of vaccine, and will have the option to acquire more. The company's investigational vaccine relies on Janssen's recombinant adenovirus technology, AdVac, a technology used to develop and manufacture Janssen's Ebola vaccine with BARDA support; that vaccine received European Commission approval and was used in the Democratic Republic of the Congo (DRC) and Rwanda during the 2018-2020 Ebola outbreak that began in the DRC.

August 11: HHS announced up to $1.5 billion in funds to support the large-scale manufacturing and delivery of Moderna's investigational vaccine candidate. Under the terms of the agreement, the U.S. Government will own the resulting 100 million doses of vaccine, and will have the option to acquire more. The vaccine, called mRNA-1273, has been co-developed by Moderna and scientists from the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases (NIAID), part of the National Institutes of Health. NIAID has continued to support the vaccine's development including nonclinical studies and clinical trials. Additionally, BARDA has supported phase 2/3 clinical trials, vaccine manufacturing scale up and other development activities for this vaccine. The Phase 3 clinical trial, which began July 27, is the first government-funded Phase 3 clinical trial for a COVID-19 vaccine in the United States.

August 23: As part of the agency's efforts to combat COVID-19, the FDA issued an emergency use authorization (EUA) for investigational convalescent plasma. Based on available scientific evidence, the FDA determined convalescent plasma may be effective in lessening the severity or shortening the length of COVID-19 illness in hospitalized patients, and that the known and potential benefits of the product outweigh the known and potential risks. The EUA authorizes the distribution of convalescent plasma in the U.S. as well as its administration by health care providers, as appropriate, to treat suspected or confirmed cases of COVID-19. Learn more about EUAs.


October 9: HHS announced an agreement with AstraZeneca for late-stage development and large-scale manufacturing  of the company's COVID-19 investigational product AZD7442, a cocktail of two monoclonal antibodies, that may help treat or prevent COVID-19. The goal of AstraZeneca's partnership with the U.S. Government is to develop a monoclonal antibody cocktail that can help prevent infection.  An effective monoclonal antibody that can prevent COVID-19, particularly one that is long-lasting and delivered by intramuscular injection, may be of particular use in certain groups.  This includes people who have compromised immune function, those who are over 80 years old, and people undergoing medical treatments that preclude them from receiving a COVID-19 vaccine.

October 28: HHS announced a $375 million agreement with Eli Lilly and Company to purchase the first doses of the company's COVID-19 investigational antibody therapeutic bamlanivimab, also known as LY-CoV555. Bamlanivimab currently is being evaluated in Phase 3 clinical trials funded by Eli Lilly, in addition to clinical trials as part of the ACTIV public-private partnership. The FDA is reviewing bamlanivimab as a possible treatment for COVID-19 in outpatients. Monoclonal antibodies, which mimic the human immune system, bind to certain proteins of a virus, reducing the ability of the virus to infect human cells.


November 10: HHS announced plans to allocate initial doses of Eli Lilly and Company's investigational monoclonal antibody therapeutic, bamlanivimab, which received emergency use authorization from the FDA on November 9, for the treatment of non-hospitalized patients with mild or moderate confirmed cases of COVID-19. A data-driven system will ensure continued fair and equitable distribution of these new products. Weekly allocations to state and territorial health departments will be proportionally based on confirmed COVID-19 cases in each state and territory over the previous seven days, based on data hospitals and state health departments enter into the HHS Protect data collection platform. To find out how much bamlanivimab has been allocated to specific states, territories, and jurisdictions, visit the allocation dashboard. This dashboard will be updated each distribution week until the FDA issues a revised EUA indicating the U.S. government involvement in the allocation and distribution process is no longer needed.

Nov 20, 2020, 06:57

Warped speed.

COVID-19 Don't Panic!

Nov 20, 2020, 07:23

The only possible permanent solutions to Covid were geographic isolation of the original outbreak and the vaccine. Both of which were heavily championed by Trump, but  travel bans were opposed by the Dems

Social distancing can have a delaying  effect .....masks probably have no effect

Isolating the vulnerable was championed by Republican States like Florida and flubbed in rough numbers suggest over 80% of deaths have occurred in Democratic counties.

The reason the country with the world’s most sophisticated health care system has the most cases is because it is a highly mobile, interactive society used to almost complete freedom. The primary levers to interrupt that freedom rest with local governments.

If Trump issued a national mask policy it would almost certainly have  been overturned by some judge..the things the central government can control they did very effectively. If Trump can be accused of anything it was occupying too much of the stage at the press conferences.

Nov 20, 2020, 07:40

"If Trump issued a national mask policy it would almost certainly have  been overturned by some judge..."

Perhaps not, it hangs on how he approached the problem, for instance, if he'd worked through and agreed approach with all the Governors and with a practice common to all then a judge wouldn't have come into play.

I'll leave it at that before I get into his dismissive attitude about best practice science.

Nov 20, 2020, 07:52

One other thing, the estimated timings for when Covid struck in the USA is questionable. I have a nephew who holidayed in America over the December/ January period, he came back infected with Covid, admitted himself to a hospital and discharged himself 4 days later. No-one over here knew that he had Covid......neither did the Americans. I'm suggesting that by the time someone woke up to what was going on which I believe to be middle February, Covid had already spread itself far and wide across the country.

Nov 20, 2020, 17:23

Quite possibly, although I haven’t seen much data to corroborate that view. But I think it’s fairly clear Covid came to the US in two major waves.....on the West Coast, especially through Seattle directly from China.....and in the North East via especially Italy.  Certainly the West Coast wave was reduced by the Travel bans.

The East Coast was wide open because China never limited travel out of Wuhan, Italy never took steps in time and the Democratic establishment attacked the initial Travel bans rather than supporting further steps.

Nov 20, 2020, 18:23

The UK government like the US could take credit for the vaccine development, as they also made a pre-payment as a promise to buy vaccine. 
Private vaccine companies were guaranteed to be able to sell what they initially produced, so it reduced their risk and ensured they will get return on investment. 

Both the UK and US-backed all the main horses giving the best vaccine projects budget. If one of them works, they have a vaccine. If none work, they write off the losses. 

HHS is just allocating budget, as they would under any US president.
The work is being done by private companies. Listing their tasks as milestones under operation warp speed is BS, as this is what these private companies would have done regardless. 

Admittedly given the specialist nature of vaccine development, there is not that much that a government can do except allocating budget.

Trumps operation warp speed is just to sound like Trump is driving then vaccine development when all that has happened is that the HHS has identified the best vaccine candidates, and the budget has been approved.
Everything from that point is dependent on the scientific capabilities of private companies. They can take all credit for their success or failure. 

Nov 20, 2020, 18:27


The virus was seeded in the USA when the world's most dangerous clown slapped short-sighted travel restrictions that were based on citizenship. Bozo was so phenomenally stupid as to put a ban on non-US citizens travelling to the USA while allowing hundreds of thousands of US citizens to return to the USA without testing, screening or PPCs. Did Bozo think Covid infected only Chinese people? Do you brainwashed and dull-witted Trumpanzees think it was only Chinese people bringing the virus to the US from China?


Hundreds of thousands of Americans returned from infected countries like China all at the same time in the same airports in a state of panic. No temperature screening, no social distancing, no masks and no tracing. None of that was in place. Some Democrats opposed the ban but only because there were no preparations. Preparations that could have saved the USA from becoming the epicentre of the virus.

The short-sighted and premature travel restrictions more than anything are what seeded the virus in the USA and why they are the worst affected nation in the world by miles . . . not to mention the mask-wearing example set by their absolute clown of a bungling president.

There . . . schooled again!


Nov 20, 2020, 18:36

Apparently, Trump did not even want to close the borders to Chinese and later Europeans. 

He had just finally secured a "deal" with China, and the last thing he wanted to do was block Chinese from the US. 

Trump finally relented and blocked Chinese people, and later Europeans- all while allowing Americans to travel freely to countries all over the world, and back to the US.

Trump trying to think scientifically is why the US are where they are with Covid. 

Nov 20, 2020, 18:44

Apparently Shark....more fake media. 

‘Democrats opposed the ban only because there were no preparations’....the virus didn’t care....every person the Dems let in because they opposed the ban probably killed somebody.

Hell even when Trump established the European travel ban, they still opposed him. Now they lie through their teeth about it....just like Cuomo never sent Covid patients back to nursing homes. And he was for a long time THE Dem voice on the virus.

Nov 21, 2020, 00:54

Nov 21, 2020, 01:44

This from CNN:

That was not the time, nor is this, to argue over who gets credit for what. Perhaps the President moved in this direction because it seemed easier than other Covid-19 control efforts or for votes or to goose pharmaceutical earnings or because he and his administration were moved by the calamity unfolding on their watch. His motive is irrelevant; the scientific advance is real.
What the polio vaccine can teach us about the Covid-19 vaccine
And in that spirit, as one who remains extremely critical of President Trump's handling of the pandemic, may I say, thank you, Mr. President. You did a good thing by allowing money to flow to address a national crisis. Operation Warp Speed, a nearly $10 billion government program seeking to make 300 million doses of a vaccine -- the initial doses of which would be available by January next year -- shows early signs of success. As such, you have embraced a core progressive tenet that big government, featuring major federal dollars that in this case give scientists free rein to chase ideas, ultimately pays off.
I guess not all Lefties feel as you do....unfortunately this  author goes on to call for embracing the which he calls for masks shortly before the Danish study questioned their efficacy. 

Nov 21, 2020, 02:53

It makes no sense. If Trump cared so much and did so much at the start when there were only a few deaths, then why doesn’t he care now when there are many?

People were dying back then and people are dying right now and if this was all ‘heavily championed’ by Trump then why isn’t it still being ‘heavily championed’ by Trump?

How can anyone justify his obsession with proving the election was a fraud over saving lives?

Make America great again he said, how about putting America first?

Roll on 20th January 2021!!

Nov 21, 2020, 07:04


Nov 21, 2020, 09:02

The only sound a Trumpie makes when they don’t have an answer. And the only sound you’ll hear when he’s dragged kicking and screaming from the WH only much, MUCH louder hahaha

Can’t wait whooosh

Nov 21, 2020, 13:16

Deaths from the Chinese Virus alone are around 14,000. Die in a car crash but you have covid its counted as a covid death. See Whatfinger. 

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Stop  paying hospitals far more for covid. Stop the incentive to call all deaths covid

Do a proper count of covid deaths. 

Prosecute all 4 demonrats Governors sending infected people back into old age homes. 

Investigate why demonrat states get it all wrong. 

Protect the vulnerable and build herd immunity. Practically speaking the virus cannot be stopped. You cannot isolate everybody. 

The morons here opining on covid should take the trouble to acquaint themselves with the massive Danish Study and the Marine Study. 

They should break away from fake news for a moment and read what the medical people are saying. 

There is an avalanche of news coming out about how masks  do not work and neither do lockdowns. France and Spain had the strictest lock downs and heaviest mask compliance and yet have heaviest of spikes. 

Go to WORLDOMETER and see the Swedish death rates. 

Poor old sharktwit tries to discredit Trump's operation Warspeed. Even corrupt fake news CNN had to give Trump credit. Trump gave billions to these companies! 

Moz you sure ripped poor sharktwit. This poor loon is now like a very old flag shredded by the wind. 

Shrarktwit isn't it time you made an abject apology for all your absurd posts. Hahahahahaha. 

But after receiving huge help from Trump these two globalist companies decided to make their announcement of successful trials only days after the election. What a bunch of snakes!

Oaks a peace of advice. Before taking any vaccine make sure you know what it contains. A number of doctors are making alarming claims. 

Nov 21, 2020, 14:06

Beeno, somehow your hero - "The Big Brother Reality TV star" got elected. 

However the US did not make the same mistake twice - except for Trump's base who are rednecks, that believe Trump is the saviour, and the Democrats are a satanic group of cannibals and paedophiles.
If that was true, then relatively you would be a good person that could get into heaven.
Strawman arguments to convince yourself that morals you are better than what they are. 

Baseless fantasies with no relation to reality. Just like you think Trump actually has a chance of having a second term. Your Hero will be in jail next year... 

Don't worry you will find a new crusader, once Trump is past his sell-by date. 
Just like when Bill Gates and Soros eventually pass on, you will find new "villains" in your fantasy existence. 

Why is that the religious fear science so much? They hate scientists like Fauci, and can only relate to discredited fools like Scott Atlas who will paint a picture that is compatible with their reality. 

We will get Scott Atlas in court soon, and at the very least he will be stripped of any medical qualifications he has due to malpractice, and subverting the call for doctors to protect people, instead misinforming people. 

Nov 21, 2020, 16:45

Actually as I proved to you in Pennsylvania Trump probably did get elected twice. He was denied victory by the flood of Dem mail in ballots which broke all tradition and voted at a 20% higher rate than average. A million excess mail in votes in Pennsylvania meant 200000 more Dem votes....which was way more than the rigged difference of 80000 votes.

All of that in spite the fact that 45% of the voters still believed the uncorrected Dem lie that Russian collusion took place in 2016.

On a fair, level playing field basis Trump won this election by much more than they are claiming Biden won.

And nobody hates Fauci....we just recognize his political bias....and the fact that he was wrong about the risk of the virus, championed ineffective remdesivir as much as Trump championed hcq, and was wrong about masks after lying about them. 

The infectious disease scientists  have a horrible record of poor numbers, failed predictions and ineffective measures throughout the epidemic. Their reputations will be saved by some clever young chemists who came up with the vaccine.....but the virologists  have failed their first test since 1919.

Nov 21, 2020, 20:20

Countries using HCQ  have a 70% lower death rate than countries not using it so Trump was correct. Very cheap as well. 

Prof Alan Dershowitz says Trump will win his Pennsylvanian case in the Supre Court. The questions is how much of an impacts was there. Rudy claims 680,000 plus votes. 

Now what happened in Pennsylvania happened in Michigan and Wisconsin. That's enough to give Trump the election. 

There is a lot of fraud in Nevada as well. 

Trump tweeted that fraud will be revealed in Georgia

Trump can win all these battle ground states. 

Then we have the whole debacle of the Dominium voting machine fraud. 

Sydney Powell is claiming Trump probable lost 7 million votes and Biden should have ten million votes less. 

There have been numerous articles by staticians etc showing that what happened was impossible. 

So why don't ignorant bigots like sharktwit, rooitwit, the very dense Denise and blob brain know about these things. 

Well it's really because they don't want to know. They prefer propaganda to news. Yes of course there has been massive censorship by the MSM and Big Tech. But that does not excuse the dunces as it's all over the internet.

I seriously worry about the mental stability of these Loons. If Trump does win as he should what will become of them. BWHAHAHAHAHAHA. 

Reading the posts of these nutters one is staggered by how much they don't know. 

CNN says Biden is President Elect so it must be so. Hahahahahaha.. 

They probably know nothing about the new Grassley/Johnston Report raising more questions about China Joe.

Have they seen the statistical evidence showing why Biden votes are impossible. 

One would have to set aside a couple of days to present the evidence that had already come to light. But these bigots are not worth that sort of effort.They are like the Marxist press who also don't want to know.

Looking forward to the court cases. Wonder if the likes of CNN will cover them. Cancel culture, censorship and physical intimidation is the lefts game. However like never before Americans are on to them. 

As mentioned in another post 30% of democrats think Trump won. You would have to be a complete brain washed moron to think Trump lost on any fair basis.

Another win is that more Rinos have destroyed themselves politically. Hahahahahaha. 

Nov 21, 2020, 20:23

I see the World Health Organisation does not recommend taking Remdesivir. They said data from around the world shows it does nothing for Covid patients. Not as bad as HCQ which increases the death rate of Covid patients. 

Remdesivir is very expensive, especially since Trump purchased the world supply of it. 

Nov 21, 2020, 20:29


Fox News declared Biden the president-elect before CNN. They also called some of the states for Biden before CNN. 

Trump is now recommending that people switch from Fox News to the one American news network.
If you "fought" Fox News was great, OANN is even crazier.
They are super far-right-wing- so far that they have no grasp of reality. Some of the journalists may just be frauds accepting bribes to spread misinformation. 

Trump is talking about creating Trump News Network when he runs for president again in 4 years. That will all be conspiracies - about arresting Democrats or anyone that is not part of Trump's cult. 

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