Pathetic state of things

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Jan 23, 2024, 22:39

So I watched the SAu19 match against England today

SA had Luus playing a player brought into the squad because of an injury picked up by a SA player in the previous game against the WI’s.

So he was not in the original squad so one has to ask why he started the game today ahead of other squad members?

Now Luus happens to be the quickest u19 bowler in the country and had just taken two lots of 5 wickets hauls in the tournament he was playing in when he got his SA call up. He has a very similar action to Dale Steyn

The fucking reason he was not in the original squad was because he is white - fuck me it’s unbelievably pathetic

Same applies to the opening bat Stolk, was not in the original squad but because one of the SA20 sides had bought him and the hype surrounding him, he was invited to the last SA u19 camp pre the WC squad being announced.

Why the fuck are the powers that be so out of touch and why the fuck after 30 odd years of equality for all is the fucking quota system still being applied

Jan 23, 2024, 22:46

It's been pathetic for a while, it's just the depth that varies. I warned about it in earlier post. Some on here have been questioning it as well by calling for the death of quotas .....why wouldn't you when everyone is playing on an equal footing. Can only think it's for political reasons if not then it's just dumb...I believe it's the former.

It goes far back and beyond but wind back to the incident when Jacques Rudolph was selected to play only to be dropped from the team sheet the next morning and replaced by some no hoper whose name I can't bother to remember. That no hoper who is a disgrace to the game of cricket was not so long ago the Proteas fielding coach. Think his name is Justin Ontong.

Well may you ask Justin Who?????

Jan 24, 2024, 09:50

Yeah Denny it’s beyond pathetic really

What the fuck has the colour of one’s skin got to do with the make up of a sporting team

The fact that 30 years on, quotas still play a part evidences the complete failure of the system in the first place

Jan 24, 2024, 22:39

Can anyone be specific i.e,  the requirements .......maybe its............ 3black 2indian 2coloured 4white?

Jan 24, 2024, 22:40

Jan 24, 2024, 23:56

I know at school provincial level the sides are only allowed 4 white players in the team.

Friend of mine’s son who had played age group WP cricket as a seam bowler found himself discarded in his final year or two at school despite being one of the leading schoolboy wicket takers in the province

The reason being - black kids turn out as better bowlers than bats so the 4 white spots in the team went to batsmen

How fucking sad is that. My mates son is now looking to come to England to further his cricketing career

Jan 25, 2024, 01:07

Blobbok in answer to your question....

The South African domestic set-up could see a change in transformation targets in the aftermath of the Cobras' yet-to-be-investigated transgression two weeks ago.

CSA are yet to conclude an inquiry into why the Cape Town-based franchise fielded only two black Africans instead of the stipulated three in a four-day match against the Warriors at Newlands on Tuesday. ESPNcricinfo understands that the franchise has not received any communication from CSA about a possible probe. Further, it has also emerged that CSA had agreed to the Cobras' XI and that a bid for the franchises to use the same targets that apply to the national team, which are taken on average over a season, was mooted at the coaches' conference in May and was due to be considered by CSA's cricket committee before this season began.

Currently, transformation targets in South Africa apply at both domestic and national level. Domestic teams must field at least six players of colour, of which at least three must be black African, and this target must be met in every match. The national team must field at least six players of colour, including at least two black Africans on average over the course of a season. That means, at national level, if only two black African players are included in the XI in any match and four in another, the target is considered to have been met. The domestic franchise coaches are understood to have agreed on, and argued for, the same to apply to them, but they are unaware if their motion was taken up at higher levels.

Instead, the franchises have continued to meet the three-plus-three target, except in the final week of October when the Cobras opted not to. While they fielded seven players of colour in their team against the Warriors, only two were black African. The Cobras notified CSA in writing of their reasons, which were transformation, cricketing and semantics based. By including seven players of colour, the Cobras argued they were exceeding the target of six. They also said their combination best-suited the national agenda because it allowed them to play Zubayr Hamza, George Linde and Dane Piedt, who had all returned from the tour of India, two Malan brothers (Pieter and Janneman), Kyle Verreynne, Jason Smith and Dane Paterson, all considered national hopefuls, and Mathew Kleinveldt, who was fresh off a hundred the previous week. Lastly, the Cobras said the word target indicates a non-obligatory selection criteria, in contrast to the word quota. They claim to have had a response from CSA which indicated they could go ahead because they had made a "cogent argument."

If that is the case, South Africa's other five franchises, all of whom have treated the target as a quota, would also be able to successfully argue for discarding the black African subsection of the target and for the targets to be calculated on average over the season, instead of for every game. This is essentially what the coaches lobbied for six months ago and could change the landscape of the South African domestic scene.

CSA confirmed that they have not finalised the case. "CSA is busy with this matter and will issue a statement once this matter is finalised," Thamie Mthembu, A CSA spokesperson said.

Jan 25, 2024, 03:34

Thanks ........what an embarrassment .

Dipshitstick Fikile was a major doos when he'd the sports portfolio.


Jan 25, 2024, 05:56

Dipshitstick Fikile Fickle was is a major doos  in any portfolio.

Jan 25, 2024, 15:37

Sad but true.

30 plus years and counting.

The question is will it ever change....appears not.

NZ, Aussie and English cricket will be the winners with the "Pale" SA players seeking fame and fortune in countries that understand and appreciate their qualities.

Will Donker, Dim and hatefull Africa ever wake up to reality?

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