Conditions were a bit tough at the start...we're OKish thanks to Verreynne and Bavuma...it depends on how much of a lead we'll give them, but we can still do this.
Conditions were a bit tough at the start...we're OKish thanks to Verreynne and Bavuma...it depends on how much of a lead we'll give them, but we can still do this.
Well we know the SA Cricket team is shit and we have not got anything to offer other than perhaps the much-maligned Verreynne. Hopeless lot anyway
So in the second innings were all out for 99 runs. Here are the total runs scored in the 2 innings the Proteas batted:-
Elgar = 5 runs *
Erwee = 13 runs
Van der Dussen = 5 runs *
Bavuma = 67 runs
Verreynne = 64 runs
Zondo = 36 runs
The above deals with the batsmen only and the "*" indicates favorites of Mozart.
So how did our team of new seuntjies do? Which brilliant, must have seuntjies did we leave out?
As I said when there was a rush to get rid of Amla and Kallis, don’t be too hasty, I see nothing on the horizon. And so it has proven. The only thing we were missing was the usual flop by the Ock.
WIPE OUT.
The batsmen lost the game big time for the Proteas.
So how did our team of new seuntjies do? Which brilliant, must have seuntjies did we leave out?
As I said when there was a rush to get rid of Amla and Kallis, don’t be too hasty, I see nothing on the horizon. And so it has proven. The only thing we were missing was the usual flop by the Ock.
WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAAHAAA
Our resident Blusterbum and cricket ignorant exposes himself once again......his post will be remembered as an all-time classic.
So how did our team of new seuntjies do?
In a top order of 6 batsmen there is only one "seuntjie".......Kyle Verryanne. He scored a combined total of 64 runs the second most runs only exceeded by Bavuma who scored 67 runs.
The ages of the non "seuntjies"
1) Elgar = 35yrs - Combined total 5 Runs
2) Erwee = 33yrs - 13 Runs
3) Bavuma = 31yrs - 67 Runs
4) Zhondo = 32yrs - 36 Runs
5) Van Der Dussen = 33yrs - 5 Runs
6) Kyle Verryenne = 24yrs - 64 Runs
Feel a bit stupid again Huh?
Wait on, don't start wiping the eggnogg from your dumb face....there's more...
As I said when there was a rush to get rid of Amla and Kallis..
You're lying through your rotten teeth, there was no rush to get rid of them they retired on their own terms of their own free will.....everyone knows that.
In this test on your insistence had they played Amla would have been 39 years old and Kallis would have been 47 years
Bwhahahahahahahhaa Man how stupid are you?
Relax, there's more egg-nogging to come.......
The Proteas have beaten Australia in their previous two series.....one in Australia and the second in South Africa.
Here's the kicker.......Kallis didn't play in either and Amla played in both the home and away series..........the team won without Kallis on Ozzie turf with more or less the same Ozzie attack
1st Test Perth Nov 2016
Amla - 0/1
De Ock - 84/64
2nd Test
Amla - 47
De Ock - 104
Third Test
Amla - 5/45
South Africa lost the dead rubber and had a 2 -1 series win
2018 Series in South Africa
1st Test
Amla - 0/8
2nd Test -
Amla - 56/27
3rd Test
Amla - 31/31
4th Test
Amla - 27/16
South Africa won the series 3-1
So no so called "seuntjies" just a bunch of stale plodders and you wanted to add Amla to a list strangled by geriatrics, tell me based on those figures how dumb are you to think that a 39 year old would have improved on his figures of 4 years earlier Huh?
Never mind, the answer is obvious and so is your spin, now rack off and wipe the egg from your stupid face.
I've repeatedly said you're all BS........a King after the event but you couldn't even get that right.
Whatever Mozart ever comes up with is total BS when it comes to sportsmen. He is always supporting the failing older players and accuse anyone coming in new as "seuttjies" - even when they are over 30 years of age. Never seen as much BS on sport contribution ever.
Mike, I called this tour weeks before it started.....there ain't no surprises but as per his modus operandi he comes up with a post after the event which no doubt impresses the village idiots.
Makes him look good....why I don't know because he's never selected a side, a player, or made a call on the outcome of a game. Matter of fact he doesn't know the local players, feeds off what you and I say then goes about slagging off our selections as he did with Verryenne and Nortje.
I can assure you he's a safe bet after a horse race.
Denny
The problem with Mozart is he wants members on site to say "Yes Boss" on everything he write on site - if you dare oppose his ideas he turns vicious and go on personal attack sprees. I do not think there is an issue he does not have a negative opinion on. He started his attacks on De Kock when he replaced Graeme Smith in the ODI team and the attacks have been ongoing ever since.
I am sure you would agree that Cricket in SA is being destroyed by Government interference in the sport. They allowed Smith to be Director of Cricket and Boucher to be coach - but the two had no say in team selection and the result was an ever-increasing selection of incompetent players basedd on their race. That has never hit home in the case of Mozart. He preferred to criticize players he hates and that is all he cares about.
When Verreynne became selected he suddenly start attacking him and defending two players - Van der Dussen and Elgar who would not eb in any cricket team of substance in other countries,
I said prejudice is his only selection norm and the older players are the more he support their selection. I would replace the older players with good younger players and then the screaming hysteria of Mozart will start.
Here, this sums up his bloated cricket stupidity and ignorance....
Amla vs Australia in their past two series as noted in my above post.
Total runs - 294
Total amount of innings - 12
How I ask with tears in my eyes was Amla at 39 years of age going to improve on that?
He can bullshit his way from one forum to another but in the cricket forum it stops because numbers don't lie and cricket is a numbers game.
Kallis's presence as I've already pointed wasn't needed as South Africa won both series(Home and Away) without him.
Just laugh at the Clown.
Now let’s see Amla played his last game for South Africa in 2019 and Kallis played his last test in 2014. My comment was:
‘ As I said when there was a rush to get rid of Amla and Kallis, don’t be too hasty.’
I hardly thought Quisling was so stupid that he would think that comment applied to events 8 years later. But apparently he does. Pretty stupid, but we are talking about the Quisling here.
As for the older players currently in the team. The only reason they are there is because the young er guns simply don’t fire when given a chance. We haven’t produced test batsmen since Amla, Kallis and co. Again proving the point that the urge to drop them was wrong headed.
So where are we…pretty much with me being totally vindicated. The counter point would be a few younger batsmen actually succeeding in tests. Talk to me again when that’s the case.
So where are we…pretty much with me being totally vindicated.
Bwhahahahahaha
Whooosh.......What's new, you've vindicated your stupid self.
As for replacing Kallis........the Windies who dominated the world stage for 15 years with an illustrious flow of both batsmen and bowler have never replaced erm umm Viv Richards or Brian Lara
The Ozzies who also dominated cricket for 15 years haven't replaced Ponting
India haven't replaced Tendulkar
Now shut-up you pompous Twat you're an embarrassment.
Thanks for trying to prove my point, if none of the great cricket nations replace their best batsmen, there should be no pressure on them to retire. But I have to say Kholi is a fairly decent replacement for Tendulkar.
Mozart
Your attacks on replacement players started immediately after they replaced the older players and continued ever since. When people started to say that Elgar and Van der Dussen started to under-perform and should be replaced you immediately attacked the members suggesting a change and their failures got worse and worse ever since.
Mike, slimy Pompous Pile got his sorry ass kicked real bad on this one, one when he shrieked "seuntjies" only to be told there's only, Verryenne.
Then he tried to blame the loss on the "forced retirement" of Amla and Kallis who were replaced by "seuntjies"....more BS. The Proteas have had great victories without those two as we witnessed as an example against NZ and Australia.
Soon as he got butt burned he turned around and claimed that the youngsters can't be trusted hence the reason older players were selected.....more BS.
Ask him to name the seuntjies.......
Said it all along....he does not know.......is a master after the event....but butt burned himself on this one.
Bwhahahahahaha
Well the coaches, who I dare say know cricket a lot more than you and Clever, neither of whom have probably played the game, clearly think there are no seuntjies ready for test cricket. We haven’t produced one new bat since Clever was agitating for Amla and even Kallis to be replaced.
Case closed. So who had their fat butt kicked?
Mozazrt
Lies and more lies as per normal. Amla did not perform on the levedl je used to play towrds the end of 2018. At that stage I did not agitate for his replacement in the team. In the beginning of 2019 he was poor and then did not play any cricket for three months I thens aid his inclusion in the WC squad was a huge mistake and his performances in the WC was miserable at best and cost the team dearly in crucial matches. On return to SA he failed in further matches and announced his retirement in 2019.
The performance signs in 2018 was way below his normal evel of performance - in 2019 it went further down - 2019 was the first year where he was so poor and his absence from cricket for 3 months was enough for me to call for his ommision from the WC squad for the first time.
Mozazrt
Lies and more lies as per normal. Amla did not perform on the level he used to play towards the end of 2018. At that stage I did not agitate for his replacement in the team. In the beginning of 2019 he was poor and then did not play any cricket for three months I then said his inclusion in the WC squad was a huge mistake and his performances in the WC was miserable at best and cost the team dearly in crucial matches. On return to SA he failed in further matches and announced his retirement in 2019.
The performance signs in 2018 was way below his normal level of performance - in 2019 it went further down - 2019 was the first year where he was so poor and his absence from cricket for 3 months was enough for me to call for his omission from the WC squad for the first time.
More lies, there is a record:
Looking at the final ODI against India now. There is an obvious problem here as the situation remains the same as to the batsmen of SA. The situation starts with Amla - his batting early in innings put the other batsmen under huge stress insofar as maintenance of a reasonable run rate is concerned. He normally bats early with a in rate barely over three runs per over - which from a batting perspective is way too slow in ODI's. He had one good innings in the six ODI's but his run rate was even then at 77 - which later in innings are too slow. I think it is high time for Amla to retire from ODI's his eye-hand co-ordination has gone to the birds.
What do we do with you? I have often supported your right to your opinions and role on this Board. But the lying is something else, twice today, proven lies. Straighten up and fly right.
Well the coaches, who I dare say know cricket a lot more than you and Clever, neither of whom have probably played the game, clearly think there are no seuntjies ready for test cricket.
I dare say know cricket a lot more than you and Clever,
And so they should, but in that case Rassie knows a lot more about Rugby than you.....not so?...oh the irony Bwhahahahaha but here's the thing, slimy Pompous Piles turns to ANC appointed coaches to win an argument. I daresay without the power of Google he wouldn't even know the coaches once again exposing his ignorance, stupidity and that all important need to be right at any cost.
ANC support is the lowest level anyone can sink to and right here we have a moron who has done just that.
A bit of history for you Piles and I warned about Transformation extending itself in a much earlier post.
The current Director of Cricket was an assistant coach to Mike Boucher. He used to play a bit of cricket, did nothing of note as a cricketer, way below average at best. Prior to being Boucher's assistant he was the national coach, took a Protea's team to India, that team not only lost the series 5-0 they were absolutely humiliated in the process. He's the very same useless Drol who dropped his racism charge at an CSA enquiry into Smithie and Boucher.
But here's the kicker, he supported Bavuma's poor form in the recently completed T20WC.......said something to the effect that it was just a matter of time before Bavuma recovered his good form...history has it that Bavuma never did, all he did was embarrass himself and the country as the race card was played at the expense of trying to win the T20.
So tell me Pompous Piles how's your statement about the "coaches" knowing a lot more than Clever and myself holding together?
clearly think there are no seuntjies ready for test cricket
I'm asking again.....name the seuntjies who replaced Kallis and Amla?
Khayo Zondo......do you know of him......let me help....he's part of the current Protea test squad currently on tour in Australia. Played last week........useless as expected.
Apart from the quota crutch do you know of another reason why he's in the team?
You don't know do you? Yes, just as I expected.
Here, let me help you once again.......sit back, relax and stop crying.
He was selected years ago as a test player, AB was captain of the team at the time. AB apparently pulled him aside and told him that he wasn't going to be in the starting team and that he was flying out Dean Elgar instead to fill the role. That BTW is how Elgar started his test career.
That move by AB is now regarded as racist by CSA and in a show of sympathy albeit 6 years later, after testifying in front of CSA in that infamous enquiry Zondo has been reinstated.
Got all that?
I doubt it.
Anyway, I suggest you don't sit for a while.......hopefully the bum burn up your asshole will settle.
You might also want to check on your ANC membership while you're waiting.
The coaches may be less than stellar players they still know much more than you and Clever. Did you ever play the game Quisling? But nowhere in that long boring diatribe do I see one fact that suggests the pressure to move Amla and Kallis along was a good idea. Even worse than poorly performing seuntjies, we can’t find any to select at all. Embarrassing for the talent spotters.
I'm asking again and again and again.....name the seuntjies who replaced Kallis and Amla?
Go ahead then you regularly mouthed off about new seuntjies, name them.
Go ahead then you regularly mouthed off about new seuntjies, name them.
WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA A cop out!
Not a cop out…I have been hearing for years how seuntjie batsmen x should be selected, how he’s a great talent. So where are all these talents now? Chilling I suppose like Ock who succeeds when he is playing Zimbabwe and flops horribly in every WC when the pressure is on, because his technique is fatally flawed.
Look Twat I find no satisfaction debating you on cricket or anything else....let that sink in. You're not on here for the love of the game, your sole purpose is to big note yourself and to tear down people like Mike and myself to make yourself look good.
I know those who are here for the love of the team and the game of cricket.....you're not one of them.
There's a fair bit I can tear into with regard to your above comments but 'Tis the season of goodwill and I'll leave it at that. So g'on have the final say......child.
So you can’t answer the question. Never mind it was obvious from the start that you were screwed.
Mozart
A sound method f evaluation of new players are to consider of both existing players and potential new players is to look how both the mentioned group of players perform on provincial level and if existing national players are srtruggling on the higher level and compare worse on provincial level based on performances on provincial level with potential new players it defuinitely is the time to make changes.
The other thing they miss out on is the fact that there is a selection committee and this is where the shit hits the fan. They use every wrong norm imaginable in squad and team selection bar cricket performances. Their first priority is to select the quotas and if they have decided on those - they look at vacancies to be filled. If there is no player of color left to select they then turn to the oldies without regard to performance. Doomsday method useeed.
SA 58/4 AT LUNCH
Mozart first choice over 30 years of age players all failed again. The fact is the 2 "seuntjies" in the game made thus far 78 of the 144 runs scored - the failures again being Elgar, Erwee, De Bruin, Bavuma and Zondo. All of them are over 30 years of age and hence Mozart-supported players.
Khaya Zondo should hamba Khaya. At almost 33 years old and a FC average of 31, I really don't see the point of his selection...wasted spot.
LoL
‘s what happens when BEE competes against non BEE.
Correction… of the over 30 players mentioned the only one I would pick is Elgar and possibly Bavuma, because needs must.
Day 1 Sydney ..................... Oz 30/1 Warner out Nortje
Here's hoping for a better performance , (after the shitshow on tour from the saddest Bok team in living memory)
Nope 60-1 we are going to see our arses again
Klaasen in at 3 - what a joke
Klaasen in at 3 - what a joke
Easy Easy ou Piles loves him HeHeHe
The bottom is missing in the SA Cricket barrel unfortunately.
What do you folks think of that ruling of Lappies being ruled not out in that slip "catch"?
I agree with the TV umpire's ruling as I think it appears the ball hit the turf a fraction of a second ahead of the slip fielders outstretched hands.
Good call....thank goodness for TV replays and all the updated technical tools available to umpires today.
I've watched the replay a few times, there is an element of doubt about it being a clean catch, happy to go with the TV umpire's call.
Man we are getting our arses kicked 260 for 2
Now this seuntjie bowling attack really is pretty toothless. It’s a dead pitch which requires a bit of guile, but as the commentators point out Maharaj pretty much bowls the same ball every time. Rabada is somewhere else. Nortje is trying, but again seems to have little variation. We lack deep experience in the attack and are being carved up by these thirty plus batsmen like Smith and Khawaja.
No we don’t need experience at all
Nortje, KG and Maharaj have more than enough experience
The problem is obvious. The bowlers are done - they never have anything to work with
They know their bats are utterly useless and any good work they do is undone by the bats
There is a limit to how much you can fight . No point in flogging a dead horse
It’s like being part of a great backline and having a miserable pack of forwards in front of you. Without the ball you can’t do shit
blobbok
Senior player
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SA 12/0 ........ 30 min day 1 Brisbane
Elgar gone for 3, 14/1