South Africa’s U19’s... and the quest for youth

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Feb 05, 2020, 01:23

After the Proteas U19 team was thrashed by Afghanistan...thrashed by Bangladesh.... well beaten by the Windies and left languishing in the 7th place playoff game, at home! How the blue blazes  can the right answer be a complete swing to youth.

Are they still playing cricket in school in South Africa?

Feb 05, 2020, 11:38


The total ignorant at work.   All people on site criticized the Under 19 squad and gave good reasons for it.   The fact is  there are perhaps 2 to 3 players in the whole squad that could progress to higher levels in years to come.

Nobody wants all youngsters in the cricket squad and said that when performance is on par = preference should be given to younger players than to 30 years old and older.   Comprehende?   


Feb 05, 2020, 11:58

Easy the youth we mention has nothing to do with the SA u19 side apart from Coetzee and Bird, who both show promise and are potential future national players but certainly not yet

The current u19 side is shit - clearly merit had little to do with its make up

Feb 05, 2020, 21:20

So okay....who are these youngsters who have proven they are ready for test cricket. I’m willing to learn.....please name them and tell me what they have done, against what opposition and what characteristics they display......that make a good case that they should replace Bavuma, van der Dussen and others.

Feb 05, 2020, 23:08

Well Moz the only place a youngster can start is in the first class game which is where all youngsters start

Pieter Malan’s younger brother Janneman is 23 and opens the batting and has a first class average of 50 plus

Same can be said of Verreyne who is currently in the ODI squad as is Janneman I think. He is a keeper/bat who also has a first class average of over 50

There are other youngsters with healthy first class averages who include

Josh Richards

Grant Roelofsen

Ruan Rickelton

Marques Ackerman

Raynard van Tonder

Ruan de Swardt

Matthew Breetske

Surely 3 or 4 of these will make it?

Feb 05, 2020, 23:58

I would not include Bavuna and Van der Dussen in the immediate  replacement category, but with De Kock we have three remainers, That means we have to find tree others asap,   

So who I think they should be replaced are -

*   Janneman Malan

*   Verreyne

*   Anyone of the remaining players mentioned by Dave with Snyman being added as an opening batsman.      

Feb 06, 2020, 01:55

So I agree Janneman at 23 might have been a better bet than Pieter at 30. Dussen got into the one day team leading up to the WC, in which we had a choosing the best player for the tournament was reasonable.

Feb 06, 2020, 08:57


The honest thing to do is to look at performances of all existing players and when they fail constantly we should  look at the reasons for their failure and chances of recovery of form/   In the case of older players recovering of form is rare since it relates to physical factors - for instance decrease of capacity in eye-hand co-ordination and slower reaction time.  

The next issue is what chance has new players coming in at 29 to 30 year olds be able to build an international career?   Is it not better to compare there provincial performances and if there is no real differences bring in younger players with a real longer term career in international cricket?

The latter is apparently the approach in most countries bar South Africa,  Look for instance at India and England in that regard.   That is why a player like Verreyne should have been introduced earlier than he was - he is in the ODI squad already and should be used  asap in giving him playing time,  But the other part is that Verreyne is a wicket keeper as well and that  could be important - since it would lighten the load on De Kock.  It is becoming clear that the latter is the future captain of SA on test level - he is already the captain on the ODI and T20I level,       

If there is on test level a problem in dropping both openers of the past season - Pieter Malan and Elgar - consideration should ne given to replacing them with Janneman  Malan and Snyman - the latter being  an opener who did very well against the same England bowlers the present openers struggled against.   



Feb 07, 2020, 06:56


Just another question - was the Under 19 team any worse than the Proteas was om the senior WC?

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