Your digs at Ngidi are childish and your take on him getting it in the neck is unfounded bullshit
Nortje is as experienced in that side for a start
Your digs at Ngidi are childish and your take on him getting it in the neck is unfounded bullshit
Nortje is as experienced in that side for a start
My take on Ngidi is fully justified by facts and the facts are -
* of the bowlers he took the least wickets in the latest SriLankan series;
* he played in 7 tests and took 22 wickets in tests as against the 8 tests of Nortje in which he took 30 wickets;
* he bowls at an average pace of 132 kph - which is a medium pace bowler and not a fast pace bowler - he is inaccurate when bowling at speed higher than 130 kph;
* he took no wickets in the first innings in the second test against SL and due to inaccurate bowling gave away runs; and
* he can be effective in two to three overs - provided his pace is reduced to roundabout 130 kph - but in any more overs bowled in the session he becomes expensive and ineffective,
Bowlers like Ngidi get found out by top batsmen and become less effective sooner rather than later in their careers.
Being ineffective in bowling in the first innings and being inaccurate in the second innings were sufficient grounds for a tongue-lashing by Boucher,
Ngidi was a miracle bowler when he came on the scene and became less effective subsequently. At present he is an average medium pace bowler - nothing more. The fact is that he got found out not only by top batsmen - but also by his IPL club and whatever you may think, a bowler doing badly in IPL - where he has to bowl against the top batsmen from all over the world - is not ever going to be effective in other formats of the game.
He may be sent to Pakistan - but as a result of the return of Rabada from injury he
is unlikely to be used in any games. Please also note that there was not a word about Ngidi said by Boucher in his interview and high praise of Sipamla and Mulder - so would he have criticized them and also Nortje after the latter's sterling performance in the first innings - hence my deduction that Ngidi was the one who were in hot water with Boucher when it came to bowling,.
Mike
Your racism shines time after time.
You are a beacon of light for the old South Africa.
Ngidi and Nortje are both fantastic bowlers and deserve their respective spots in the side.
Nortje is an out and out quick. Ngidi gets good swing and bounce.
Both will be successful international bowlers.
Ngidi has an average of 26 and has a better strike rate than Nortje.
But they do feed well off of each other.
Looking forward to having Rabada back.
Please stop being so racist or I will lay a formal complaint against you at my local police.
His strike rate is similar to Nortje’s you stupid prick which effectively counters all the other garbage you have written about him
Nortje has one more test than Ngidi which is two bowling innings’s and taken 8 more wickets than him.
That puts them along side eachother and one would have to credit Ngidi more given he does not have the pace Nortje does. Pace is a weapon
But what about their bowling averages in test matches - Ngidi at 25.7 and Nortje 30.7 proving that Ngidi is the better bowler. Case closed
Ngidi has been bowling within himself coming back from injury. A fully fit Ngidi bowls around the 145kph mark.
Ngidi is world class and that’s a fact
Well - you may carry on - but I believe for obvious reasons I clearly spelled out the player who got it in the neck from Boucher is Ngidi, He was not up to standard against hte English and came a poor fourth in wicket taking against SriLanka/
He cannot be bowled more than 2 to 3 overs becoming very expensive the longer he bowled, And his pace bowling now equites to that of Mulder - who bowls much more accurately and with mnore better-planned purpose than Ngidi does - hence his higher wicket taking, Please note that in both matches Ngidi bowled less than either Nortje and Mulder did because he was not up to standard. He was even given extra overs to try to get rid of the tailenders and get him a five wicket haul in the innings and was not successful - while Sipamla took three wickets quickly. What does that tell you about his effectiveness n bowling?
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No you are lying as nowhere does it say that Boucher said anything to Ngidi individually for that would be plain stupidity given all the seamers were pretty much equal throughout the series
Judging Ngidi in a stupid T20 tournament against England shows your cricket ignorance
Ngidi was good in the SL series and was never expensive
He has the same strike rate as Nortje but a far better bowling average making him the better of the two. FACT - you can’t argue with the stats
Your take on Ngidi is pure cricket ignorance
saffex..
this idiot just argues without any evidence.
my god,
i almost want to just agree so that he shuts up.
cos when he starts talking crap, my fuck i get irritated.
It would be ok if Mike actually understood the game but clearly he does not
Which true cricket follower is going to judge a player based on smash bash IPL or T20 internationals.
That’s not fucking cricket
He bangs on about Moz and wanker Aug not knowing anything when he is just as bad
But at least he is a nice guy - just an ignorant one
You are welcome as to having your own ideas about Ngidi - but him bowling at 145 when he is rated as a medium fast bowler on ESPN - not a fast bowler - means that his average bowling speed is below 140 kph and in the past series was in fact 132 kph.
He took the least wickets taken by the four main bowlers used and he was in the main inaccurate, Even 2 of the 7 wickets were taken with poorly directed balls - which would have been called wides in ODI's and would mean that the batsmen got themselves out by touching them - that shows poor batsman-ship being out as a result of poor deliveries,
However I believe that the Batsmen have "found him out" and he will have to work hard at getting to be an acceptable international bowler. At present there are better propositions coming through - eg Sipamla and others, His chances of playing international cricket will be diminished if he does not get well above his present performance level.
Batsmen have found him out have they? How do they do that
If they found him out then they must have found Nortje out as well for Ngidi is the better test bowler of the two
Are you saying Ngidi has never bowled 145kph?
The one took eleven wickets and the other one 7 - that is a new one on me, you really are very funny. Keep it up - I love jokes.
If he did ESPN would not rate him as a medium fast bowler. His fastest ball this series was 136 kph - but the accuracy was gone. His average balls were 132 kph, and only accurate when it was below that pace,
Sure they found him out and hit him for plenty in his recent matches a slowish pace bowler who is read easily, and easily countered. You should ask Daw
id Malan about that though.
4 wickets more in one series is nothing and I’m talking their full test careers as bowlers you dumb ass
Ngidi has the far better bowling average
He was no more expensive than Nortje or Sipamla in this series so stop speaking utter shit
To prove what utter horseshit you speak when it comes to Ngidi let’s look at his runs conceded this series against SL as compared with Nortje’s
First test
Ngidi first innings 3.37 runs per over
Nortje first innings 4 runs per over
Ngidi second innings 3.8 runs per over
Nortje second innings 4.62 runs per over
Second test
Ngidi first innings 2.93 runs per over
Nortje first innings 4.4 runs per over
Ngidi second innings 3.8 runs per over
Nortje second innings 3.37 runs per over
May I suggest you shut the fuck up and stop embarrassing yourself on the topic of Ngidi
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The references are as follows:-
Boucher himself on five key takeaways from the Proteas' Test series win | Sport (news24.com)
Stern talk stung Proteas into cruising towards series whitewash | Sport (news24.com)
Interesting about the second one - I think the player who got it in the neck was really Ngidi, the most experienced in the bowling component in the team,