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Refugees?

If they are then what about the hundreds of thousands who left South Africa because of Apartheid? What about those who were detained without charge, those who died in detention and those who were given an exit permit which amounted to 'F/off' make sure you bolt the door on your way out. Hell, I could go on....

Black farm workers as well as black farmers have also suffered and have been killed as well and sure

everyone feels for the farmers, they are vulnerable and are exposed and that's reason enough to provide them with dedicated security. It is criminality at play not a conspiracy.

What about the 20%+ of the white population who have already fled the country since 94? More than a million. What about the 3000+ farm murders since 94? What about the stadiums full of people yelling kill the Boer every chance they get ..what about the 140+ race laws and BBBEE horse manure killing the economy?...what about the businesses going under as a result of tender fraud and state corruption? What about people losing their property to land invasions and a government doing nothing about it?..our government hates us and is actively busy with a slow but sure war against us ...like Cyril joked about boiling us like frogs in a pot...slowly so we don't notice the rise in temperature and escape...SIES!!!

Thank God for DJT having the guts to spend the political capital to at least get some people out .

Since

South Africa

's transition to democracy in 1994, it is estimated that over 660,000 people have been murdered.

Historical milestones in these statistics include:

1. 1994–2018: Approximately 500,000 murders were recorded during this 24-year period.
2. 1994–2017: A total of 485,260 murders were documented by the United Nations and the South African Police Service (SAPS).
3. 1994–2016: The Institute of Race Relations (IRR) reported 445,835 murders.
4. Recent Figures: In the 2023/2024 period, South Africa recorded 27,389 murders, which is approximately 75 people per day.

While the total number of victims has grown with the population, the South African Police Service (SAPS) notes that the murder rate (per 100,000 people) actually halved between 1994 and 2011 before beginning to climb again in the last decade.

30 years @ 22000 = 660000 dead souls

1. 1994–2018: Approximately 500,000 murders were recorded during this 24-year period.
2. 1994–2017: A total of 485,260 murderswere documented by the United Nations and the South African Police Service (SAPS).
3. 1994–2016: The Institute of Race Relations (IRR) reported 445,835 murders.
4. Recent Figures: In the 2023/2024period, South Africa recorded 27,389 murders, which is approximately 75 people per day.

Haha talk about making a strong case for the return of apartheid.

The problem from Whites, Coloreds and Indians in SA is getting more and more difficult due to job segregation in pratice uner the ANC Regime.

The economy is in serous decline partly due to rampant corruption in Govenment, On the whole according to opinion pols the Blacks are financially worse off now than they were in 1994,

In 1994 there were 8 milion illegal migrants from African Countries - at present tht figure is oer 18 milion.

We all hoped that South Africa would not go the way other Acfrican countries went after independence - but it went the same way, In rapid decline and getting worse,

Those killings are horrible. What make the farm murders stand out is the fact that there's only 30 odd thousand farmers in South Africa ...these murders are extremely violent and

disproportionately high...high crime rates is used as an excuse to condone it, but we all know what it's about. Vilifying a whole segment of society...not even Hitler sang kill the Jew songs...SIES!!!

No-one is disputing the fact that the farm murders are horrific. Murder in itself is horrific and there are many happening t'out the country as BB pointed out in his post. However, there is no evidence or proof that the farmers or that a section of the community is being intentionally and deliberately vilified or persecuted.

Refugee meaning

a person who has been forced to leave their country in order to escape war, persecution, or natural disaster

Refugee meaning

a person who has been forced to leave their country in order to escape war, persecution, or natural disaster

per·se·cu·tion

/?p?rs??kyo?oSH?n/

noun

hostility and ill-treatment, especially on the basis of ethnicity, religion, or sexual orientation or political beliefs.

What do you call BBBEE, "Kill the Boer" and the more than 140 race laws?

As for fleeing the country, there are a few examples of in-country refugee to the USA programs. Afghanistan, Cuba end I think Columbia.

Yes, there are many murders in South Africa, but those committed against white people and farmers in particular are proportionally much higher than those on the average citizen.

...and BTW, the refugee programme for South Africans is not only for white farmers or Afrikaners, it is for all South African minorities suffering persecution...some coloured and interracial families are already in the USA...in fact, there were some amongst the first 59 who went over in May last year...you've been in Australia too long, things are deteriorating fast...best thing is, most people have become so conditioned by their circumstances, they don't realize how bad things have become...until it's their time...

Why does it irks you so much?

1. 2011/12: 15,554 murders (29.5 per 100,000).
2. 2016/17: 19,016 murders.
3. 2019/20: ~21,325 murders.
4. 2022/23: 27,494 murders (45 per 100,000).
5. 2024/25: Recent quarterly data indicates daily average murders exceeding 60, reflecting sustained high levels.
6. ISS Africa +5
7. Key Findings
8. Significant Increase: Murder numbers and rates have increased consistently since 2011/12.
9. Provincial Disparities: The 2022/23 high rate is heavily driven by the Eastern Cape, KwaZulu-Natal, Western Cape, and Gauteng, which account for the majority of incidents.
10. Context: The 2022/23 murder rate is the highest in 20 years, making it higher than at the start of the decade, despite brief fluctuations.
11. Recent Trends (2024/25): While some violent crime categories decreased in late 2024, daily murder figures remain exceptionally high compared to previous decades.
12. Amazon Web Services (AWS) +3

2011/12: Lowest point of the democratic era, with a rate of approximately 30-31 per 100,000.

2017/18: Rate was roughly 36 per 100,000.

2019/20: 21,325 murders (37 per 100,000).

2020/21: 19,972 murders (34 per 100,000).

2021/22: 25,181 murders (43 per 100,000).

2022/23: 27,494 murders (45 per 100,000).

Provincial Extremes (2022/23): Eastern Cape (approx. 75 per 100,000) and Western Cape/KwaZulu-Natal (approx. 56–57 per 100,000) are the highest

Things have intensified since Cyril took over...and it's not by accident...The Nazi's didn't start killing the Jews in 1930...Cyril is a lawyer, he knows what plausible deniability means...but a tree is known by it's fruit..., but he'll wash his hands hands of the result in the end...accountability is not something the ANC leaders excel at...they are very good at criminal neglect though.

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The hate is tangible...dangerous territory...mafia state.

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https://www.reuters.com/world/us-aims-bring-4500-white-south-africans-per-month-refugees-document-says-2026-02-26/

Exclusive: US aims to bring in 4,500 white South Africans per month as refugees, document says

By Ted Hesson and Nellie Peyton

February 26, 20261:24 PM CSTUpdated 6 hours ago

First group of White South Africans under U.S. Under Trump's Refugee plan, arrives in Dulles

People from the first group of white South Africans granted refugee status for being deemed victims of racial discrimination under U.S. President Trump's Refugee plan, check in for a connecting flight, at Dulles International Airport, in Dulles, Virginia, U.S., May 12, 2025. REUTERS/Jonathan Ernst Purchase Licensing Rights, opens new tab

Summary

White House aims to process 4,500 white South Africans monthly, exceeding stated refugee goals

US plans modular village for refugee processing on embassy property in South Africa

US refugee admissions paused through March 9 due to administrative backlogs, source says

WASHINGTON/JOHANNESBURG, Feb 26 (Reuters) - The U.S. aims to process 4,500 refugee applications from white South Africans per month, far above President Donald Trump's stated refugee program cap, and is installing trailers on embassy property in Pretoria to support the effort, a U.S. contracting document said.

The new target, contained in a previously unreported document from the U.S. State Department dated January 27, signals a push to ramp up admissions from South Africa, while refugee applications from other areas have been severely curtailed.

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Trump has said the U.S. would only admit 7,500 total refugees from around the world in fiscal year 2026, while a much higher cap of 40,000 to 60,000 was discussed internally last year. Only 2,000 white South Africans had entered the U.S. as refugees as of January 31 under a program launched in May 2025, although the pace has picked up in recent months.

The ambitious target could also face administrative delays in Washington, which in recent weeks have halted all refugee travel to the U.S., including white South Africans, according to a U.S. official familiar with the matter.

The U.S. State Department and Department of Homeland Security did not respond to requests for comment. The White House referred questions to the State Department.

The South African Chamber of Commerce in the U.S. said last year that more than 67,000 people had expressed interest in relocating.

Trump ordered a halt to refugee admissions into the U.S. after taking office in 2025 as part of his crackdown on legal and illegal immigration. But weeks later, he launched an effort to bring in white South Africans of Afrikaner ethnicity as refugees, saying they had been violently persecuted in the majority-Black country. South Africa's government has rejected that claim, while some refugee advocates have criticized the Trump policy.

U.S. SEES URGENT NEED FOR REFUGEE PROCESSING SITE

The contracting document, posted to a U.S. government database on Wednesday, explains the rationale for awarding the contract for the trailers without a competitive bidding process, stressing an urgent need for a secure site.

An immigration raid by South African authorities on a previous U.S. refugee processing site on a commercial property in Johannesburg had forced the government to consider a more secure location, it said, after "operations were compromised."

"The inability to safely process about 4,500 applicants per month, an objective communicated to (the U.S. State Department's refugee division) from the White House, would result in failure to meet a Presidential priority," the document said.

South African Foreign Ministry spokesperson Chrispin Phiri said his government would not interfere with the U.S. program if it remained within legal boundaries, while reiterating Pretoria's rejection of Trump's claims about white South Africans.

"The assertion that Afrikaners face systemic persecution is fundamentally unsubstantiated," he said.

Whether the U.S. could reach the ambitious 4,500 per month target remains unclear. The State Department last week canceled all refugee travel - including for South Africans - from February 23 to March 9 due to operational factors, an email sent to applicants said.

Because of Trump's sweeping refugee ban issued in January 2025, South Africans must be admitted as exceptions on a case-by-case basis by Secretary of State Marco Rubio and Homeland Security Secretary Kristi Noem.

The U.S. official, who requested anonymity to discuss internal operations, said DHS had delayed the approvals, creating an administrative backlog.

Prior to the pause on admissions, South African entries had been ramping up, with about 1,500 admitted in December and January, compared with about 500 in the previous six and a half months, according to U.S. State Department figures.

AFTER PUBLIC U.S.-SOUTH AFRICA TENSIONS, A PRIVATE AGREEMENT

Tensions between the U.S. and South Africa over the refugee effort boiled over in mid-December when South African authorities raided the commercial building in Johannesburg where U.S. staff and contractors were working on refugee cases.

Seven Kenyans working as contractors for a U.S.-based refugee group were arrested for alleged violations of their visa terms, while two U.S. refugee officers were briefly detained.

U.S. and South African officials reached an agreement during a closed-door meeting in late December to allow processing to continue, Reuters reported last month.

The contracting document said a South African company had received a no-bid $772,000 contract to supply and install 14 prefabricated modular buildings as part of a "temporary modular village" on an embassy property in Pretoria.

In a WhatsApp group for South Africans to share information about the program, one applicant said they had an interview this week in a trailer-like structure at an embassy property and that more trailers were being prepared, suggesting the site was now operational.

Reporting by Ted Hesson in Washington and Nellie Peyton in Johannesburg; Additional reporting by Andy Sullivan; Editing by Don Durfee and Edmund Klamann

Draad

Blo won't even admit to the fact that farmers are generally tortured in horrible ways before being murdered.

What does that tell you?

The racists claim they hate racism ;)

Yep, I have previously put up quite a few very clear examples of how farmers were targeted and how these attacks were so very different from your usual crime in South Africa....

You cannot compare farm murders to your usual every day crime or murders in South Africa, and I showed this previously on this forum.

People who want to argue against that point have no idea at all what they are talking about, especially regarding farm murders...... and very often don't even live in this country, but will again probably try and use AI to support their stance.

Farm murders in particular have a much higher degree of aggression, anger and torture involved....compared to most other crimes of a simlar nature

Now, see if you can get Blo to accept the very clear facts before him.

You know if a black family was killed in SA and on the wall, written in blood, there was a phrase like "Kill the blacks", old Blo would be all over it. We'd never hear the end of it as he lays all his morality on us.

This is the same clown that can't stop shouting fascist.

Nah Plum Bob is not a racist, but Apartheid scarred a lot of good people...hard for them to accept that the alternative is no better... South Africa had a chance to become an even more special place...that window is closed now...only the rich will be able to live good and safe lives...a better life for all is BS ...the middle class is shrinking...soon the top of the pyramid will be resting only on the shoulders of the suffering masses...mid level management will disappear and everything will collapse...

An army needs sargent's, lieutenants, captains and majors...it won't operate with only troops, corporals, colonels and generals...

"Nah Plum Bob is not a racist, but Apartheid scarred a lot of good people...hard for them to accept that the alternative is no better"

Okay. Well since I was about 12 years old there have been anti white laws in place. Laws that discriminated against me socially, in education, in legal matters and in the work place.

Does this justify me being racist?

Of course not.

Raciosm is aways wrong in any case - but in SA it moie worse nopw than it was before 1994 and that says a lot.

The Western Cape Province is under Democrtic Alliance control and somewhat better than the rest of SA. S o internal flight from ther provinces to the Western Cape is a flood by Blacks. It resultes in slum cities in all twons in the Wester Cape - but especially in Cape Town itself.

Under the corcustances crime is becoming a head ache i n especially Cape Town, In 2025 there was a farm murder in the Hessequa MUnicipality - a very rare occurence in this municipal area. In fact only 2 such cases happened in a decade.

South Africa has fallen years ago...most people are just too stubborn to accept it... it's not possible for a small fraction of the population (of all races) to carry the masses on their shoulders, while those in charge rape and pilage the resources... something's gotta give sometime...it won't be pretty.

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