Vance sucking up to the dictator who told Putin "I am at your service".
Putin pulling all the strings while pathetic puppets like Bozo, Vance and Orban dance to his tune.
Vance sucking up to the dictator who told Putin "I am at your service".
Putin pulling all the strings while pathetic puppets like Bozo, Vance and Orban dance to his tune.
A bit of realism:
Publicly, European leaders describe their support for Ukraine in moral and ideological terms, pitting democracy against authoritarianism, sovereignty against imperial conquest, and the rule of law against brute force. True, Russia’s invasion is an act of aggression, and Ukraine has every right to defend itself. But that isn’t the whole story.
In some of my closed-door conversations with Europeans, a harder logic is increasingly dominant: Their support for Ukraine is no longer primarily about solidarity with a fellow democracy. It’s about buying time for themselves.
That logic is understandable. Europe fears that if Russia emerges from the war less constrained, more confident and no longer tied down militarily, the threat to the rest of Europe will increase. Reuters captured this last year when it reported that most European Union countries believe that as long as Russia remains militarily engaged in Ukraine, it is less likely to attack an EU member. In other words, Europe sees Ukraine not only as a nation to be saved but as a buffer to be maintained.
Please credit that source, Moz. It sounds like such an enormous load of rubbish I'd actually like to see which "news" agency is producing such utter tripe.
So that justifies supporting Far-right governments in Europe? The mere speculation, or even if it is true.
Of course, Europeans are worried about themselves, and they are building up their armies. However, the plan is for Ukraine to join the EU and NATO.
Finally, many of the EU countries now realise they need their own nukes. To protect themselves from Russia, and now also America.
Orban has elections in about 1 week; he has been in power for something like 16 years. Orban is an authoritarian, like his good friends, Putin and Trump. It is now more than ever clear that America supports Russia in its war against Ukraine.
They are talking about NATO not following along with their war crimes against Ukraine, while they are actively supporting Russia against Ukraine and Europe.
Mr. Rodnyansky is an economics professor at the University of Cambridge and a former economic adviser to Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky.
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Orban has elections in about 1 week; he has been in power for something like 16 years. Orban is an authoritarian, like his good friends, Putin and Trump. It is now more than ever clear that America supports Russia in its war against Ukraine.
Stop spreading of The Guiardian on site, Hungary is an EU and NATO member. That means ot emets requirements of the eU as democracy and is subjecct t te EU Hogh Court, Orban is not a far-right dictator - he is rather a cener rig t eader but the leftist fake media call that "Far Right".
The media called the Gpvernments of Italy anmd Austria also far Right - so according tp you shotbnraibn theya re doctatprships too. How stupid you became as a result of brainwashing. - limitless
A bit of realism:
What's that got to do with the thread topic?
The thread is about the supposed moral failure of US leadership…,the post to which you refer merely makes the point that Europe, as always, is also acting in their self interest.
One, two, two, three links in logic….follow the bouncing ball.
"One, two, two, three . . ."
Are you late for your nap, Moz?
The thread is about the US government supporting a far right government in Europe that has actively served the interests of a hostile Russia for the last 4 years.
Bollocks to you and your endless thread derailments. Why don't you either stand over your governments actions and defend them or call them out.
Not as well as Germany has served a hostile Russia building pipelines of dependence….oh I guess that never occurred to you.
Away with your moral grandstanding, remember your history and be a little humble
If Orban loses the election, it is not clear if Trump and Putin will step in. America are already spreading rumours of voter fraud by Brussels- before any counting has even begun,
We need to remove America from our supply chain - and quickly. The American army must leave Europe now. They keep claiming they are here to protect Europe - when they have been working with Russia all along.
Just endless whataboutism. Pathetic coward.
What's that got to do with the thread topic?
The thread is about the US government supporting a far right government in Europe that has actively served the interests of a hostile Russia for the last 4 years.
Well said....clearly another thread derailment.
Being a poster on a web sight can never be proof of bravery. Running away from strings when you have been schooled does tell one something about the person….you’re the coward Mick
Reuters - Exclusive: Russia supplies Iran with cyber support, spy imagery to hone attacks,
Trump complains about NATO members not supporting his NAZI war, but his good friend Putin is actually supporting Iran - no problem.
Oh dear Shark Another Thread derailment…..ROFL. Now will Denny and the witless Mick call you out. Let’s see.
"Being a poster on a web sight . . ."
Mozart, if you're going to be the grammar and spelling Nazi on this board, you'd better up your own game.
It's website, not "web sight".
Thanks for pointing that out…I stand corrected
It's website, not "web sight".
You're suppose to add a ROFL or Schooled comment after you point that out!
I know, but this is the new, kinder Rooinek.
I see Mozart never thanked me for correcting his counting earlier.
‘Why don't you either stand over by your governments actions and defend them or call them out.’
You asked for it Anger ……ROFL!
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The American government has promised to support far-right governments in the EU to try end the EU.
https://x.com/HQNewsNow/status/2041509608959750182
The American government is trying to destroy the EU. While the EU has not yet realised its potential, it is a threat to America - especially if it applies protectionism to develop its own tech sector. The Big Tech Bro's are mostly aging and the product of the old America. Average IQ in America is in decline, particularly in the red states.