8 Nations and Springboks

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Sep 07, 2020, 15:29

I don't know if any of you have been following the latest movement around the internationals this year, but it looks like SA will participate in the one off 8 nations tournament in November. 

Personally I think that it is a great idea, better time zone, travel and some decent norther hemisphere teams with a better chance for SA to get ready for the Lions tour next year. 

NZ and Aus have been ahead of SA in terms of getting their teams playing, but I definitely do not want to play them at this stage. NZ has an unrivalled advantage as they are now already doing their trial games. 

Further, most of our Boks are already based in Europe which will help us even more when it comes to selecting a team and some of the SA players are not doing too bad. 

I also think it is time to ditch the championship and go back to traditional tours where SA and NZ play each other every year but on 3 match streak, but can also rotate Aus. 

Followed by an end of your 8 nations tournament which can be split between the 2 hemispheres that would allow for incoming and outgoing tours in the same Window of Oct - December 

Looks like some sliver lining Covid might have brought 

Sep 08, 2020, 18:27

Sorry to tell you, but SA will not be taking part in the 8 Nats after all. 

Georgia have taken the last spot. 

Sep 08, 2020, 20:52

Well that will make it a bit more competitive....no need for the NH coaches to take on the World Champs.

Sep 08, 2020, 23:10

It’s all nonsense. Fiji are also playing in the Tournament. 

Sep 08, 2020, 23:14

I wonder if it is they are scared of the battle scars that would be left before the B&I Lions tour. A choice between the World Champs or Fiji who usually are not even at full strength. 

Sep 09, 2020, 00:14

Logistics seem to be the issue. 

We’re possibly on the brink of another lockdown here too so who knows if they’ll get to play at all. 

Sep 09, 2020, 01:01

Yes, Becs I read that the infection rate is growing rapidly here in the UK and could be the start of the second wave. France has gotten bad again.  

Maybe with the end of Summer, people will stay indoors more and socialise less. The 17-23 Demographic is the one with the most infections. They are losing patience in the lockdown. 

I live in Newquay, and the beaches are more crowded than I have ever seen them. Just starting to get a bit less busy - it is difficult driving. The main beach at Fistral is choc a bloc and it seems as if Corona does not exist as it so busy it is almost impossible to socially distance

Sep 09, 2020, 10:29

I personally think COVID is an over reaction, yes it spreads really fast, but it is too late now to try and control it.

We just need to let it run its course. 

We also probably have great Bubbles or safe areas for the venerable people. 

I don't see what 60% of the population has to go broke while only 0.2% actually got infected with a lower mortality rate than initially anticipated. 

That said, I would have love to SA play in Europe, more boo matches for us up here to go and watch. 

Right now I'm rooting for the Sale Sharks, loads of SA players in their ranks, becoming the next Saracens

Sep 09, 2020, 14:42

Sharkbok.....you live in a lovely spot, lucky you. 

It’s been crazy with all the marches, raves and holiday makers...how do they expect to lower the infection rate ? 

The youth have never taken things seriously so now we all have to suffer. 

Curfews being mooted now as well. 

Sep 10, 2020, 07:40

The UK's handling of the entire Covid-19 pandemic has been a monumental embarrassment

They were put on the world stage yet again for the amount of deaths they were experiencing, and the way their government responded in handling it... was absolutely atrocious.....

For a country like the UK, I genuinely expected a far more world class organised response, but Boris, Hancock and Sadiq especially, were national clowns

Sep 10, 2020, 08:09


The UK had a terrible start to Corona, and initially decided to go down the herd immunity route. 
A complete U-turn was done after the models of Imperial college showed that millions across the world would die following this approach. 

Dominic Cummings appears to have been the brainchild of the herd immunity approach, but it is unclear how the government went down this approach. That will need to be investigated after the vaccine is available. (assuming it works). 

Treatment is much better now than what it was-so the death rate is much lower than what it was. So places that got hit early like New York and London got totally slammed. 

Borris the Animal's focus is Brexit. It is unclear if his motives were just to improve Britain for everyone, or to just ensure that the richest 2% of the population can pay little to no tax by avoiding new EU tax regulations. 

Matt Handcock does not appear to be from a medical background.
I am not sure if Sadiq has the experience, and got thrown in the deep end starting just before Corona. Sadiq was on TV in the beginning, but he appears to have just faded out of the limelight.

Tony Blair and Gordon Brown would be a much stronger outfit than Boris and the Eton College get along gang. 

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