Argentinian stars test positive for Covid

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Sep 06, 2020, 04:27

‘Hopes of staging a full Rugby Championship took a major blow on Saturday when six Argentina players tested positive for COVID-19.

The likelihood of New Zealand hosting Australia, Argentina and South Africa for Tests in November and December had already been fading fast due to logistical hurdles, but the latest news will mean the tournament is highly unlikely to go ahead as initially planned.‘


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The article suggests a series of Bledisloe tests are the likely alternative.... although I fail to see why the Boks have to be tarred with the Argentinian    outbreak.


Sep 06, 2020, 12:12

An end of year Euro tour would be nice.


Sep 06, 2020, 15:52

SA are expected to join the 8 Nations Tournament here in a few weeks and then join the 6 Nations very soon. Not all are pleased about the prospect. 

Sep 06, 2020, 16:59

I am not sure about this - it may just be  that the AB's do not want to play SA on a regular basis - ie twice a year - in future,   In the last four tests they played against SA they won two (one with a two point margin). lost one and drew one.    Even in their comments on the Breakthrough  program the NZ commentators said they would not have beaten the Springboks in the final.   

Remember in the 10  tests the AB's played SA between 2012 and 2017 the Springboks won 1 test and sometimes lost by embarrassing numbers.   I do not think the AB's like what they saw in SA  rugby under the new coaching set-up.            

Sep 06, 2020, 17:11

Duplication

Sep 06, 2020, 20:17

Looks like the end of the 4 nations as well. 

The Bledisloe Cup is crap, now that Australia is no longer the team they used to be. 
The word is they plan to become a touch rugby tournament. 

New Zealand does not have the forward pack to deal with South Africa, especially the tight 5. 
Without exposure to physical packs, New Zealand could slip further down.
More teams will work out how to beat them. 
Stop Beauden Barratt and Retallick - and you stop New Zealand. The forward pack lacks mongrel and ball carriers, giving poor possession to the backs. 

New Zealand has been in decline for a few years now. Their pack seems to be going the way of Australia, and if Retalick is not in form - they are average at best. A pack of fetchers lacking the power to dominate the advantage line. 
 
Some of the recent tests, the All Blacks have been clinical (or cinnical) and stopped the Bok momentum, but it was only a matter of time before the dam wall burst. 

Now that the All Blacks are our bitches, they have run for the hills. Our beer fetchers....
They want to rebuild their forward pack before trying again. When the shoe is on the other hoof, the Kiwis could not maintain it ba, ba, ha. 

It is unclear how SA will participate in these tournaments.
Will the Boks have to base themselves in Europe for all of the 6/8 nations. Seems a bit of a disadvantage with no home ground advantage. 

Also, is the #  nations going to be moved a bit further back to say March, instead of the mud bath of February? Even with artificial grass, it is still very windy, cold and not conducive to a high skills game. 

SA tours in Pro 14 will be longer, with an extra 2 SA teams. This might actually work out better as it will provide a chance to play 2 games in SA, justifying the flight to SA.  (or even 4 - depending on how that schedule is decided). 

The Springbok outside backs are small but they score lots of tries, especially with a dominant forward pack. The world cup final showed the Boks have the best finishers in world rugby. The passing and overall skills of the outside backs are good. The passing skills of the new black players coming through the ranks are world-class, certainly better than some of the one-dimensional kicking and crash balls backline players. This has given the Boks and extra dimension in scoring backline tries. 

The biggest losers are Argentina. They do not seem to be invited to the 6 nations, or Pro14. 
Not worth the travel for one team. 

Sep 07, 2020, 00:23

The 8 Nats is replacing this years Winter Tests, it’s not permanent, 6 Nats 2020 has to be completed, it was postponed due to Covid. 

The 6 Nats is Home and Away so SA would be at no disadvantage. Pitches are not artificial grass. 



Sep 07, 2020, 01:30

@Becs thanks for the update. 

I heard that a global season will be decided - and the plan is for countries to meet in the middle in terms of playing season. I even heard that the UK wants to play closer to the summer months when the conditions are better suited to playing a more running game. (Like the World Cup in 2015) - before November.

December to February is often bad weather conditions, so these 3 months could be scrapped from the playing season. 


Sep 07, 2020, 05:04

This could be the end of programmed SH rugby....so unnecessary, the old Super 12 and TNs were great competitions.

Sep 07, 2020, 18:53

Agreed Moz losing the RC and Super rugby is a HUGE loss for SA rugby and world rugby as a whole.

The current structure of the super rugby competition is flawed but at least they recognised this and were on track to change it back to the format of all sides playing eachother not that stupid conference system that had local sides playing eachother home and away.

Our super sides playing in the Pro 14 is a huge downgrade in standard. With no English or French clubs involved, the low standard is blatantly obvious, coupled with the fact that the Irish and Welsh sides often play their reserve sides in the competition

Sep 07, 2020, 20:32

Sharkbok, the global season is still up in the air. 

Premiership clubs all voted against it, so ? 

 
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