AUTUMN NATIONS SERIES: JAMIE ROBERTS SAYS SOUTH AFRICA 'BEST RUGBY TEAM TO HAVE EVER PLAYED' AFTER WALES DEMOLITION

After a ruthless 45-12 victory over a Wales side marred in crisis, South Africa completed their first unbeaten autumn tour since 2013. Jamie Roberts and Sam Warburton both agreed that the current crop of Springboks could be the best side the sport has ever seen. TNT Sports pundit Warburton argued that Rassie Erasmus' team had no weaknesses and had even improved since their 2023 World Cup triumph.

Jamie Roberts called the current incarnation of South Africa "the best rugby team to have ever played the game" after their seven-try demolition of Wales capped an unbeaten Autumn Nations Series.

The back-to-back world champions scored four tries without reply inside 35 minutes, and despite Rio Dyer and James Botham crossing for Wales, the Springboks ended their calendar year with a merciless 45-12 victory.

It marked the first time since 2013 that South Africa had completed a clean sweep of wins on their tour in the northern hemisphere.

And though the mid-2010s New Zealand side would take some stopping, Roberts believes that the this Springboks match, or even eclipse the All Blacks of the previous decade.

"I think it's probably the best rugby team to have ever played the game," Roberts said. "We talk about the All Blacks side of 2011-2015. This Springboks side is as good, if not better.

"The quality of player, the depth they create, the brand of rugby they're playing, they will continue to dominate in the next couple of years and they'll be in the conversation come the next Rugby World Cup, no doubt."

Fellow TNT Sports expert Sam Warburton wholeheartedly agreed, arguing that Rassie Erasmus' side had no weaknesses whatsoever. "I was actually thinking then, if you're a coach hypothetically and you're like, 'Right, South African weakness, let's go for it.' I genuinely can't think of one. What do they not do?" Warburton said. "In the 2019 World Cup, yes, they did have a restricted game plan. It worked well, it was physical and teams knew what was coming, but they still couldn't stop it.

"They evolved again in 2023. Even in the last 12 months, I think they've got even more expansive. They've evolved again.

"So they're not just this powerhouse team. Their tries in the first half, getting the ball into space and that recognition of space and just getting it there, not just route-one all the time.

"They have got everything. I think we are looking at one of the greatest teams of all time."

Even before the match had started, Warburton was singing the praises of the Springboks, saying that even Welsh supporters would never forget the time they saw the "iconic" back-to-back world champions in the flesh.

"It's amazing. I mean, there are going to be people in this stadium today who, in 20 years' time, are going to be like, 'I saw Cheslin Kolbe play live, I've seen Eben Etzebeth, I've seen Siya Kolisi.' "We were watching the South Africa warm-up, just watching the boys running around, because it's an iconic group. It's a really iconic group that will be remembered forever.

"It's one of the greatest rugby teams we've ever seen and everyone's got the pleasure of watching them today."

TNT Sports presenter Craig Doyle summed up the tourists' current world dominance in the sport with aplomb.

h "There is only one team in the world who can beat this South Africa team, and that's the South African B side’

Jamie Roberts called the current incarnation of South Africa "the best rugby team to have ever played the game"

Everyone has sure quickly forgotten the All Blacks 2010-2016. Two Rugby Championship clean sweeps in a row 2012 & 2013. 22 Game streak without a loss 2013/14.

Winning percentages

2010 - 92%
2011 - 83%
2012 - 85% (1 loss, 1 draw)
2013 - 100%
2014 - 85% (1 loss, 1 draw)
2015 - 91%
2016 - 92%

The Boks are no doubt the best side around currently. All time, still a stretch.

Id prefer to back our own boys and quit trying to devalue our own while singing the praises of another side

Just a thought

Being honest. Another thought.

With the superb Mostert back and our lineouts working like clockwork, I’m okay with best tight forwards of of the last 10 years.

Mostert is the only regular player that let’s this current Bok side

He devalues it

He is literally shit

Given how crap he is in general play for the life of me I don’t know how he ran such a good line for his try - it must have been a brain fart - it’s taken 50 caps

Well it must be a fact after beating the rugby powerhouse of fuckin Wales.

If beating Scotland, a crappy England and Wales (notice none of the top teams in Ireland or France) on an EOYT makes you the best rugby team in the world ever there is a new best team ever every couple of years. C ome on who believes that makes you the best team ever.

Sure Boks are the best team at the moment but if beating 2 minnows and a shit Pommy team makes you the best ever then based on that the ABs would of been the best team ever if we hadn't lost by a point to France and we are nowhere near being the best team ever but according to these clowns we were 2 points of achieving it. 

Oh for fuck sake are you stupid enough to think that being labelled the best side ever is on the strength of their November tests then fuck me you must be profoundly thick

"AUTUMN NATIONS SERIES: JAMIE ROBERTS SAYS SOUTH AFRICA 'BEST RUGBY TEAM TO HAVE EVER PLAYED' AFTER WALES DEMOLITION"

Um its right there at the front of your post so I guess that makes you profoundly thick then

So you are fucking stupid enough to conclude that that heading means Roberts made that call on the strength of the Nov series huh?

I stopped reading that article after Roberts says Wales are ‘marred’ in crisis…rather than ‘mired’ in crisis. Thick as a brick.

I'll wait til after our 2 tests in NZ next year..

Would that be Roberts the medical doctor that is thick

Hmmmmm try again

At the moment Boks keeps on winning and are the best team since WC 2023…Very good…

But I agree with Blob if we can Beat the All Blacks in both Matches next year in New Zealand , that will top of things putting us in the league of being the greatest.

It’s almost impossible to declare which side is the best ever but one certainty is, that this current Bok side is up there with the best ever which in itself is something to be proud of unlike some of the clowns on here who keep trying to devalue their achievements and best of all don’t rate the coach or the best player on the planet right now

There is rugby ignorance and then you get these clowns

Pakie

So the AB stats are given for the period 2009 to 2016 when SA had shit as coaches that could not beat the Witgatwortelfontein  B team - leave alone the  AB's. 

As to the 2014 loss by he AB's  it was caused partly by scoring of two tries by Pollard in the first test he played for the Sprigboks - while in other years magnificent Morne gave away losss to the Ab's as special achievements,   

The level of Meyer's record from November 2014 to September 2015 was 9 tests played 7 lost.

What I m driving at was  that traditioanlly the Springbok was competitive in tests  against the AB's, but in the peiod indicated that there were no competitive teams against the AB's. so he stats on winning against sub-standard opposition is not the only aspct to count.   

Great teams win against sronger and higher ranked ems than they are and pure [ecentages does not indicate anything hen opposing teams are weak and purely coached,   New Zealand has not done what they did in their glory years  becase nowadys theyeat eams that is sronger and ebter coache than in the yearsyou chose to cover.

Manpower has it amiss as well  - in 2025 SA two away matches are playing the AB/s in NZ and the two  home maches are against Ausralia with and away match agaainst Argentina.   But my money is on beating the AB's in those two matches,   In the laat 5 tests  that SA beat new Zeland in a row  two were not  home matches.   The November est series did not cnvince me hat the AB's s actually on the up  and 1 loss against Argentina at home was also not convincing me either,     I think there is a variety of reasons why he AB's have some problems and that is why I do not have enough players coming hough for test seleetion - they do not meet competitive teams in the Pacific Supe Rugby series  and ni enough cash and canno not aford playes leaving New Zealand is avoidng playes leavig NZ to play club rugby in Japan and Europe - which exclude hem or selecio for he AB's,

SA at present has the best coach in World Rugby - as well as unbelievable player resourcs - which has been mentioned by many rugby experts,   There are a few irreplaceable players in the Springbok team - like  Etzebeth, Nche, Du Toit, De Allende  and Kolbe where replacment would be difficult and replacement players would not be able to maintain the high levels the mentioned players  performed on - but in virtually all other positions it would be replacements by even better players (example Pollard and Feinberg-Mngomezulu)  - for the rest  the replacment players cannot be regarded a irreplaceable and the taam perfrmances will not suffer if players are to be replaced..               .      .            

So he AB stats are given for the period 2009 to 23016 hen SA had shit as coaches that could not beat the Witgatwortelfontein  B team - leave alone the  AB's.

You realize the Boks is not the only side the All Blacks play against, yes?

The RC mach schdule for the 2025 tests are as folows:-

16 Augut s 2025             =    Aregentina  vs   Nee Zealand

                                              South Africa  vs   Australia 

23 Augut s 2025             =    Aregentina  vs   Nee Zealand

                                              South Africa  vs   Australia 

6    September 2025         =    New Zealand   vs    South Africa

                                             Australia       vs Argntina    

13  September 2025         =    New Zealand   vs    South Africa

                                             Australia       vs Argentina

27 September 2025         =    New Zealand   vs    Australia

                                             Argentina          vs    Sout Africa

4    Octoner 2025            =     Australia         vs    New Zealnd

                                               Argentina        vs     South Africa  #

#   This test is played in London.  

It’s almost impossible to declare which side is the best ever but one certainty is, that this current Bok side is up there with the best ever which in itself is something to be proud of unlike some of the clowns on here who keep trying to devalue their achievements and best of all don’t rate the coach or the best player on the planet right now

There's a big difference between "up there with the best ever" and "the best ever". Before calling other people clowns, maybe figure out what exactly it is you wish to say and take a clear stance, because "up there" is not what the article you placed or your post heading indicates. 

"Up there with the best", definitely. I think anyone can get on board with that.

As to be expected  I said that SA used to be competitive but wa not in the epriod you quoted,   I said the AB's had  NO competitive teams they faced in the relevant period.

Fact is the whole period mentioned the AB'sd was ranked the number 1 team in he world and hy never played teams rankd higher than they in the world.   It is teams who consgtantly bat higher raned tams in he orld thatdeserve evn more credit than the no 2 team team ony play wkr opposition.   In 2019 and in the 2023 the Springbok baata ll he higher ranked tems - lost against NZ nd hen ebat two teams ranked higher than they in te RWC.   In the 2023 te situation ewas similar.     That for insacne made 2007 RWC wi the orst one of all the4 RWC gtrophies won - tehy did not play a single tem ranked higher than SA in the whole seasn.   They d the luk of a pox doctor in getig throuh to the final that year.

To fiey ou anoter fact about the sisue is that in the 2015 RWC the four SH teams wwrre the only teams in the semi's which against  how distorted the situation really was,  wih the Japan Diiaster  showed how relally  shit poor he SA  tams really was, and so team from  NH teams being suubstandard as well.

The simpeton idea is the use stats withour regard to circumstances immpaced on the stasm.            

WTF, help me understand this dumbmike, the worlds number 1 ranked team can never be the best team ever as they didn't beat a team rated higher than them?????

So the AB team between 2010 and 2015 are ruled out simply because the other teams were shit compared to them. I am sure this makes sense to you but to me this has to top any other crap you have posted by a country mile.

So since the Boks are currently ranked number one then according to you they cannot be the best rugby team ever as they haven't beaten a higher ranked team, OK have it your way,

CF

I am no degraring the achevement of the B's during the period  2010 to 2016 - but using of stas  omnly as a criteris is BS<    

Pakie wake the fuck up - it’s simple it’s virtually impossible to pick the best side ever given the game has progressed year after year

You can’t begin to compare a 1980 side with a 2024 side for instance

So broadly speaking there have probably been 5 great sides of the game of which this current Bok side is one of them

Get that you fucking stupid clown?

I notice my name in there so I suppose you're speaking to me, but my Neanderthal is a bit rusty so I'm not sure what you're saying.

" Up there with the best", definitely. I think anyone can get on board with that. " - Spot on Pakie…Easy to understand :)

...and yet you lot go out of your way to complain about everything and everyone except for Mostert and Esterhuizen...ad nauseum ...24/7...

Ag no Draad are you also now using untruths to make your points?

Please tell me what is wrong with saying that we are up there with best?

Surely that is positive?!

Luister hier ou maat, hoeveel onse is in jou pond??

Show me one post where I discredit Pieter? Or show me one post where I did not always give Dr. Allendig credit where he deserved it?

But there is also nothing wrong with talking about his shortcomings as a 12…absolutely nothing!

Don’t blame us if you guys are not able to handle criticism or you so blinded by the Bok hype train, that you loose all sense of clarity….

That is not our fault and I suggest that you guys try to be a bit more open minded!

First tell me what untruths I'm using...what am I lying about.

That we are complaining about everyone and everything, besides Mostert and Andre…

I was one of the first to point out that Mostert is totally of his game when he returned after his leg break.

We were also advocating that RG start instead of Mostert, because of his good form…

And I also said it was dumb of Esterhuisen that he tackled the Porra lights out…he should of gone lower.

You guys are hypocrites because you hold yourself to a different standard then us.

You rip into poor Mostert all the time, but are never, I mean never grown up enough to praise him where praise is due?!

We on the otherhand are level headed enough, to give credit to Crash ball Tractor, John Deere when he does something good.

Come on man what double standards is going on here??

Also if Rassie keeps on with putting his foot in it , with adverse comments or stupid selections, we have the right to talk about it.

But we also are some of the first to mention how he brought strength back to our Forward play….or I have said it on many occasions before what a good motivator he is?!

No ways false double standards here, not cool Draad.

Having to play the Boks in Sout h Africa this year was a huge disadvantage for the AB's.

The Boks should beat the AB's at home.

Next yhear it will reverse.

And the Boks will be beaten in NZ.

Oh so up there with the best is beyond some of you idiots? I’m guessing English is not your first language?

Black & Red dream on if you think your AB side is going to beat this Bok side in NZ

Just look at the history of Bok successes in NZ Saffolk. That should tell you something……

Oh so up there with the best is beyond some of you idiots? I’m guessing English is not your first language?

You started with best ever.

Then adjusted to up there with the best.

Then adjusted to one of 5 great sides.

It's not the fault of the "clowns" that you can't formulate a consistent argument. But by all means, keep holding other people accountable for your shortcomings.

I would say that All Black from 2010 to 2015 was probably one of the greatest teams, but also, don't forget. SA teams were dominating the Super rugby at that time and actually won the comp or came close. I think SA suffered from having Pieter De Villiers who ruined the boks win record. Other than a Player coach team that ignored deliveries they had a fantastic year in 2009 and New Zealand had their worst year. 

NZ pulled it together and went on to win two world cups in a row. That said, they didn't have the same hard games that the current SA team did in the most recent World Cup game. To play the top 5 teams in the same comp, Sco, Ire, NZ, Fr and Eng. Even the 95 World Cup team only had to deal with Australia, Samoa, FRA and NZ. 

I do think our team between 2007 and 2011 was extremely poorly managed and we lost a generation. Meyer had to either use players that were too old or players that were too young. Kriel, Pollard etc were all players under 23 playing in a World Cup final. That image of Kriel on the field and Sonny Bill Williams picking him up. Then 4 years later the same players win the World Cup and then 4 years later another. A lot have changed in 9 years. 

That is what worked for NZ, those players like Mcaw, Carter, William Nonu etc were all players that came short and then went onto win. 

I think only the bulls have won a super rugby title?

Yes they did:

The All Blacks conquered the world as hosts in 1987 and 2011 and then again in 2015, becoming the first nation to win back-to-back Rugby World Cups.

Geez seriously? That was not me saying the best ever it was an article I posted - fuck me

Moola who gives a fuck about what history says - this Bok side is next level and the there is nothing major to fear from this current AB side

What amazes  me is what most Poeters misundestood about the comments of Dave.  He refrred to teh S pringbk team - no other intrnational teams/  He compared he present Springboks o past Springbok teams if ne rads the heading porperly and undersand simple English.

To divert the matter to Springbok teams ad accpt that since thePofessinal aea s in the Springbpks played in 4 RWC finals and rate he teams in hefollowing oder - taking into account the teams tey payed in te whole sriesm ey Springks in WC sies,

1    2019 RWC team

2    2023  RWC team     

3    1995  RWC team 

4   1999 RWC team

5   2007 RWC team

6   2015 RWC team

7   2003  RWC team

8   2011 RWC team.       

Ta king into accoun the  present pefomances of  the present Sprngbok team as the best Springbok team ever. 

From a coahing prspectie I rate the RWC year only as follows:-

1    Erasmius

2    Christie

3    Mallett

4    White

5    Straueli

6   De Villiers

7     Meyer

Meyer at 5

Pietertjie definitely above Straeuli.

Yeah Straeuli was super kak with outdated methods

Straueli was also like a Hitler with his " Kamp Staal Draad " where the players were ordered to fist fight each other

How did that help them to play better Rugby?

Apparently Breyton Paulse knocked out derick Hougaard and Ghobani Bobo gave Louis Koen a good shot.

And Bakkies Botha had a fight with Victor Matfield…

My probme with Meyer is that he was fired by Stade Francais  based on incompetence,   If he is that  bad on club level - how bad was he on test level.

Anyway that was a funposting and also abse on oppsing teams played.   I Must agree S traeli was suershit and the story was haat h senior playes decide o squa nd tems elcions and not De Villiers and he is not even a school team coach. 

Must admit coachs from 5 to  7 were superhit - but I do not know what he is doing now but hersd hat e ahs a job with rhe lios frachise now.   .l know that De Villiers is unable to get a school coaching job.    I beleive Meyer has gone to he USA  after being unable to find anywhere else in the world a coaching job.     /    

To rate the coaches you have to take into account the talent available and the quality of the opposition. Does anybody doubt we have our best talent pool ever….mostly assembled before Erasmus. And that the opposition, particularly the SH opposition is at its weakest ever.

We have always had good players and some opposition are better now than they were back then - France, Ireland, Argentina, Scotland and Italy, others pretty much the same NZ and England and others weaker like Wales and Oz

Just look at the batch of players prior to this group - JP, Habana, Fourie, Jean, Frans Steyn, du Preez, Os, Beast, Smit, Bismark, CJ, Bakkies, Matfield, Schalk, Danie Rossouw, Juan Smith, Joe v Niekerk, Spies etc

Before that it was Joubert, Chester, Pieter Rossouw, Smal, Mulder, Hennie, Stransky, Joost, Os, Swart, Wiese, Andrews, Hannes Strydom, Skinstad, Kruger, Venter etc

It everything to do with the coach - Rassie is streaks ahead of the pack

This is the best state that that boks has ever been. They have a sound coaching group with a lot of IP. Coaches may come and go but there are a lot of good vibes. Rassie of course is the main stay and single reason for the boks cohesion. However, coaches by into his vision and he has the backing of the president and SARU. 

All our coaches had it much harder. To much provincialism. 

NZ got their act together way back when and was ahead of all the rugby nations. They were the first to do franchises, central contracts and player resting protocols.

But now Europe has caught up as evident with Ireland. Teams in France are ultra competitive. The quality of players are next level. No wonder NZ struggling from time to time. 

I think it is the first time that number 4 or 5 can beat the number one rank team, SA or Ireland. 

England is not far off and Wales need to sort their rugby out. 

The rugby world was in a different state when the Kiwis dominated. 

So I can understand why they believe this is the best team ever. 

But, I do wonder how that team of 2010 until 2015 would have failed today. Remember, many of these boks played against those players and lost by 1 point in that semi final against the greatest all blacks team. 

So I do think it is comparable. 

The boks need to follow this up next year and the year after. 

Even if they don't win the next world cup, they need to dominate for a few more season before we can say they are the greatest 

1 Erasmus

2 Christie

3 Mallett

4 Carel

5 De Villiers

6 White

7 Meyer

8 Markgraaf

9 Harry Viljoen

10 Straueli

White wins a WC and a TN against proper NZ and Australian opposition,  with a team that lost badly in the 2003 Quarters.  And he’s ranked behind Mallett who got outcoached by Australia in the  99 WC semi? And then imploded in 2000 with 6 wins and 6 losses, one win against Canada? 

I think not.

Mallett was definitely better than White

White won a WC thanks to Eddie Jones

My moin problem wih White is that he blew hot and cold as a coach.   He would be good one year and the next pour,   in 2004 each of MZ,AUstralia and SA each won 2 tests  each in in te then Ttinations and in t hend the Sprinboks won the  sries bed on  a three poin lead,   

The same did not appen and in the tests in 2006 and 2007 tests  otside the rwc the rwc.   Rhe springbpks were seriously disappointing.

Oh the Eddie Jones that took England and Oz down a worm hole….sure. I suppose the prospect  of Eddie Jones won the 2004 TN, the quickest turnaround in Major Country rugby?

The Eddie Jones that has the best England record - yeah that one

So let me interpret your thoughts Draad and Dave. You don’t like White, he is too much like the history teacher who gave you a hard time. You prefer Harrassmiss with his bearding of the establishment. You don’t want to admit to yourself that he lucked into the best squad, the weakest opposition and a series of one point wins.

Let’s not think that way, it’s disloyal. So we can’t see him in context…he is a genius, despite the fact that he couldn’t pass matric maths.

Actually much of what he did was right….return us to a forward powerhouse and the aggressive defense White first introduced to Bok rugby. What he has never done is enhance our back play. The impressive stuff is due to individuals and our back play in 2019 was better than 2024…look at the tries against NZ video.

So cut the guilt trip….Eddie Jones did nothing for our rugby, Jake White won the TN first time around…get real. Erasmus won 3 and lost 3 in his first year.

"Let’s not think that way, it’s disloyal. So we can’t see him in context…he is a genius, despite the fact that he couldn’t pass matric maths.

Where did you hear that?...and what has mathematics has to do with rugby?...and calling him stupid and lucky doesn't diminish his achievements...your loyalty to Jake is biased and misplaced...solid enough coach,  but Rassie is better...you just refuse to see it because of your dislike for the man.

I agree that’s a little snippy. But so is ranking Jake behind Carel and de Villiers. There’s your bias right back at you….you refuse to see Jake’s accomplishments because of your dislike of the man. And that applies to half the posters on this Board.

The man has been a warrior, still coaching with passion 20 years after becoming Bok coach. No games, no fiddling with roles, no reffing excuses.

Do I prefer that style over bending the rules with the water boy farce and intimidating the referees….you betcha.

My dig at Jake was more needling you than an actual opinion on Jake...I actually do rate him as a top coach even above Kitch...I thought I gave away the troll when I even rated Snorre above him...

Wow Moz you really do speak shit - firstly every coach inherits a side from his predecessor just like Jake did - Jake certainly did not discover Os, Bakkies, Matfield, Schalk, du Preez, Jean, Fourie, Habana, JP and co

Jake was pretty shit when it comes to selections, it’s one of the reasons I never liked him.

That along with the fact he is a grumpy, obnoxious, sour fucker who had no idea after his first two years once the opposition had worked out what he was about. He was so poor leading up to that WC that he nearly got fired - instead they brought in Eddie to save him.

As for weaker opposition - absolute bullshit - Ireland, France, Scotland, Argentina and Italy are better than they have ever been. England and NZ are par and the only weaker are Wales and Oz

Rassie is better in every respect - far more astute a coach, technically far better, far far better player manager and motivator and never predictable and loved by the country and his players

Rassie is by some distance our best coach ever, Jake is not even close - and he is a sour prick bitching and moaning about the schedules, travel etc

Why was White effectively fored by the Sharks io resign and his contract with Montpellir not renewed?    Jake White has on  the whole a spotty record at best.    Him winning major trophies was over 15 years limited to 3 - one being made easier in the 2007 RWC when S A did not play a single higher ranked team in the while series,    That makes it extremely easy to win the RWC  compared to what the  other RWC SA squads experience and winning a Tri-nations on point difference does not mean all that much either.   he never took any Superrugby team past  smi-final  level either.  

White was an overrated coach if ever there was one. .

    .       

Jake is a fixer. Get him in for two seasons to pick a down and out team up off the ground, and then get rid of him before he starts tripping over his own feet.

During his Bok tenure Jake was interfered with by SA Rugby to a ridiculous level though. From pressure about selecting black players to the old boys club calling for his head in public to being called back to South Africa to face a motion of no confidence by a minority of voices in the provincial unions in 2006 during the end of year tour. It was stupid and destructive.

If Jake was such a bad selector, how do you explain all the Good Bulls players that are now Boks? Then all the future Bulls/Bok talent that White also selected?

Bias lies.

Who wa he future talent Jake White selected?   give us he names so w can ealuate what hpappened to thm in later years,  in any event Jake White was given a limitless budget to conmract players since Rupert and Motsepe effecively own the franchise.   The top backline playes he got are effectiely Kriel. and Moodie.  His initial concts entail virtually all forwrd and it was only aftr Brits was appointed  by Rupert and Motsepe to watch out for what  White is p to when he stopped his cotract with Morne Steyn ad got Goosen in at flyhalf,   He ended up geting Arendse and Moodie from the Western Cape  and none of the oher backline plyers have raahed the Springbok squad yet.  .     

Has Jakes Bulls won anything huh?

First learn how to write CM so we can understand before you ask questions!

Fuck off you ignorant prick and answer the question

If ever there was an example of a stupid prick it’s you

Now answer the question fuckwit

There sis e explanation - Jae a ound ou by opposition s to hi extremely limited ame plan and he used to bugger up internal player relationship.   He had favories and non-favorits and he eams a  esul turns to shit.     Fo instance at h end of 2014 the contracts of playes were to be renewed and  16 of te Senior players refusse to their conracts as log as Whie was  coach..

He also tried to play jskeball and the specaors hated it.   The Sharks bfoe him played 15 man Rugby and Jake wanted  them to play 10 man ruby.   The Sharks found him to play normal Sharks rugby and he failed badly - so tata Jake White,           

Wasn’t speaking to you, but Mike !!

And it’s got nothing to do with the point, if Jake won anything, he selected those Bulls players, that are now boks!

You the one that made the claim he is a shit selector?!

So it shows he is a good selector and you a liar.

Also it’s proven, that a person that reverts to insulting people and are the loudest , are definitely insecure cowards….

"That along with the fact he is a grumpy, obnoxious, sour fucker who has no idea" - and Congrats perfect summary of yourself!

Thanks 

I prefer a coach nt fired by  his mployers and who cold nt get conrac renewal/     You sill do nt realiz that you are daling with a coach who treat players like school children and te playes i  he end lose their enthusiasm to play and that happes normally in the second  year of hi coching career,   Th oher thing bothering me about White isvery few of t he 2007 WC players often criticized White - soething  you never see with Erasmu as coach.     In esence there is ample prrof that White is raally an averge coach with a vey limited game plan.    

Only people with a very limited knwledge of rugby would say Jake as a coach  on par with Erasmus as a coach - he s not and his caching record confirms that.         

I’m insecure bwhaaahaaaa

So the team against England…how many of the match 23 were playing for Coetzee 7 years plus ago.

Moffie, who do you think gives a toss about the opinion of an egg-faced rugby noob who thinks 2 time RWC winning coach Rassie Erasmus is useless and 2 time World Player of the Year Pieter-Steph du Toit is a dud?

Seriously, name the posters who you think give a toss about your laughably biased and ignorant opinions?

(Sic) you are a failure in life…just accept it and gather what crumbs of joy you may. And stop pestering your betters.

So what you're saying is you can't even name a single poster who might care what an egg-faced rugby noob has to say about rugby?

LMAO!

Then just say so.

If you are so discouraged  that you need attention today, say so. Is it the body, overloaded by 50lbs of excess fat  that is ruining your day or has your landlady asked for the rent again?