Brilliant video from Eggchasers on the current level of TMO interference

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Nov 20, 2024, 12:05

Definitely not a good look for the game. Babysitting gone crazy.



Nov 20, 2024, 12:25

Pakie 

I saw the first incident and thought the Irish no 10 put up a show any Holowiid actor would be proud of,    That guy a few minutes after being down and out  on te grass scored an Irish try.

I think the rules is so badly interpetrated it makes a farce of rugby.   .       

Nov 20, 2024, 12:29

I agree on Crowley. And as the guy says at the end of the video, this can promote a culture of fake appealing to the ref in order to milk cards.

Nov 20, 2024, 13:32

He is spot on - it is getting to the point where everytime a try is scored you hesitate hoping nothing is being checked for invariably the TMO gets involved and you sit there holding your breath

Nov 20, 2024, 13:57

Yes agree with the sentiments here…. It’s going a direction that is interfering with the natural flow of Rugby.

Why is interpretation getting so complicated? Like the Eggchasers guy says,

Rugby is a aggressive sport, so there is bound to be accidents. Like accidental head contact that is not meant or malicious.

Surely these refs must be able to distinguish between things like that?!

Otherwise what is there use, just to control more and change Rugby into something it’s not??

I for one can’t stand these old farts running world Rugby and it’s almost like out of boredom they always bringing in new laws.

But they will see there arse without a mirror.

If they do not normalise things and start promoting the flow of Rugby,

like in the older days, Rugby as we know it will crash and people will stop watching it,

I will definitely be one of them as these cocky stupid refs trying to be the Center of attraction are making a mockery of our beloved game.

Together with the old farts from WR!

Nov 20, 2024, 16:00

On the point of the many phases played…..that’s the soccer dilemma where touch judges hold off calling offsides. If the ref disagreed with the TMO, not allowing play to continue could have obviated a legal try.


But the point made is valid. It’s a huge deflator. So get rid of it….leave the decision with the ref unless it’s an actual grounding issue. Sure more mistakes will be missed. But I guarantee you, with the multiplicity of rugby rules there is a missed infraction in many of the tries that are awarded.

Perfection is less desirable than the flow of the game.

Nov 20, 2024, 16:14

On the head contact debate. The first thing that should go is the further review….go back to the ref consulting with the TMO. Referring it on to yet another authority is a farce.

In terms of contact itself, we have an immediate impression of whether the contact was dangerous, careless and deliberate. If it was dangerous and/or deliberate, it’s a red card. 

When it was careless but not dangerous….the Bargie example he cites or the Cane example from the WC it’s a yellow.

Careless but dangerous is the ref killer….but you probably need to make all dangerous contacts a red. But some of the stuff the commentators call dangerous is nonsense. If the player doesn’t need a head check it’s not dangerous.

Should the TMO have a duty to intervene. Yes, but only if he spots something dangerous.

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I don’t believe those changes will increase risk at all …the days of the old head butt tackle are gone. And by all means ramp up banning periods to keep the focus on eliminating risk, while eliminating unnecessary lawyering while the game is being played.

Nov 20, 2024, 16:35

On the head contact debate. The first thing that should go is the further review….go back to the ref consulting with the TMO. Referring it on to yet another authority is a farce.

Yep, it's not rocket science. You never know what idiot is in the bunker anyway. Maybe they're trying to deflect heat from the onfield officials.

Also take it back to the limit of two phases before a try for TMO intervention, or remove it completely.

Looking at the Moroni head clash again, it was purely accidental. He was going in for a waist-high tackle, Crowley crouched into him. In these split second dynamic plays there is no way a player can adjust. But that's what we've been saying all along - cards should be for clear and obvious foul play, not for accidental dangerous contact while attempting a legal play. Carding accidents in no way contributes to the safety of the game.

Nov 20, 2024, 17:21

Agreed keep it simple - cards for deliberate not accidental

If a player is stupid enough to still effect a croc roll then he deserves a card, same applies to lifting through the horizontal or no arms tackle etc

 
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