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Jul 08, 2024, 21:43

de Allende is the best passer in the Bok squad


Jul 08, 2024, 22:58

Only total rugby idiots think otherwiswe,   Pollard himself said the De Allendce is the best no 12  he played with and that inclujded both De Villiers and Esterhuizen.   So  I beleive both Brown and Pollard are correct in their opinions and not the site BSters who claim they know the opposite. 

Jul 08, 2024, 23:54

Give us the quote.

Jul 08, 2024, 23:55

" otherwiswe, Pollard himself said the De A llendce is the ebst no 12 he plyed he played with and that inclujded both De Villiers and Esterhuizen. So I beleive both rown and xPollard are correct in their findings. " - This is definitely not helping DDA,s case : )

Jul 09, 2024, 00:09

Here we go - SA Rugby mag

Brown: Doogz the Boks’ best passer

Tony Brown hailed Damian de Allende and Jesse Kriel after the midfield maestros’ influential performance in the first Test against Ireland.

Brown made a particular note of De Allende’s underappreciated passing game during a press conference in uMhlanga on Monday.

De Allende and Kriel made their 29th appearance as a combination in the win at Loftus Versfeld, equalling the Bok record held by Jean de Villiers and Jaque Fourie.

Kriel was named man of the match for a performance that saw him make 77 metres and seven tackles.

While De Allende’s power to get the Springboks over the gainline has become something applauded by fans, Brown said he felt the inside centre’s passing perhaps goes unnoticed.

“Damian is extremely physical in contact and can give you a lot of momentum, but one thing you don’t know about him is that he is the best passer in the Bok team,” Brown said.

“I want to unlock that, all those skills and abilities, and push him and Jesse Kriel to become even better than they are.

“Jesse works extremely hard and wants to improve in every facet of his game. He works really hard on his offensive game and I think we’ve seen a lot of examples where he’s showing up on offense.”

Brown, who took over as the team’s attack coach this season following the departure of Felix Jones to England after the RWC in France last year, signalled out execution as one of the main areas the Springboks can improve on in the series decider in Durban on Saturday.

“There were some really good signs with the way we spread the ball wide early on, but we need to be more clinical in the next game,” Brown said.

“We had a few chances, but we didn’t execute as well as we would have liked to, so that is one of the things we need to improve on this week. That said, the more the guys play, the better they will be, so hopefully that will get improve with time.”

While the Springboks showed new plans on attack, it was the set piece that proved the difference in the first Test, with a 78th-minute penalty try winning it for the hosts.

“I don’t think I have ever seen such a strong scrum as the one that resulted in the penalty try,” Brown said.

“In my coaching days with Japan it was a case of getting the ball out of the scrum as quickly as possible and then getting around teams.

“It’s very nice to coach a South African team where the set pieces are of such high standard. You can do a lot of good things on a rugby field with momentum on your side.”

Jul 09, 2024, 00:17

Thank you…he did make one decent offload, something he did quite well in the early days when he was copying Sonny Bill. Let’s see how it all evolves.

Jul 09, 2024, 00:20

" Brown said he felt the inside centre’s passing perhaps goes unnoticed. " /// because he keeps on passing the ball into his teammate’s heads instead of there hands : ) : ) this is definitely a puff piece and Brown was most probably high on good old Durban poison or maybe some shrooms : )

Jul 09, 2024, 00:29

Delande is like Jackly and Hyde.

On his best day, he is a fine distributor and passer of the ball. He looks like the complete package.

On his worst days, he appears to lack basic thought processes to take the best option. (e.g. kick when he should pass, or never pass). 

Jul 09, 2024, 00:34

He’s a bit like Biden if not properly wound up….confused.

Jul 09, 2024, 02:25

Brown will need a large supply of C4 if he intends to unlock DDA’s “skills and abilities”! This is the first game I’ve ever noticed him even attempt to pass the ball FFS! A “midfield maestro”? You must be joking…..

Jul 09, 2024, 02:51

It's not unusual for coaches to get it wrong......Jake White had it wrong with Jacques Cronje and when I questioned him about it he said something like "he might be better on northern hemisphere grounds." :'(

Jul 09, 2024, 06:03

He can pass well. He just doesn't do anything consistently. If Brown can get some consistency into DDA it will help our cause a lot. Here's Willie for example trying to get to a pass by the greatest passer in the team on Saturday.

Jul 09, 2024, 08:53

When DDA was playing for the Stormers, I can remember him passing more with good hand speed…with Rassie up till now, the focus was more on his strength….carrying in traffic and support at the rucks. So yes it can benefit the team if the guy can off load more and pass more accurately…. But wouldn’t it be better to also consider investing in a younger 12 that have most of these attributes in bigger abundance?? Like a Willemse or Rickus Pretorius.

Jul 09, 2024, 09:49

Well moola this just proves how rugby ignorant you are. Schalk Brits in an interview said de Allende was the most gifted player he had ever played with but people need to realise that he plays to a plan

You clowns just don’t get it

Jul 09, 2024, 10:06

Dave and Mike, please understand the

Jul 09, 2024, 10:09

Hapless dopes criticizing Allende are the same nutjobs going after Rassie. No matter how many experts sing the praises of Allende these arrogant halfwits know better. 

Bwahahahahaha. Man it's hilarious to see these oafs blabber away. 

Jul 09, 2024, 10:10

Now it's what does Brown know. :D

Jul 09, 2024, 13:40

Dud Allende the most gifted player in the WC final:

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These numbers are hilarious. He made 5 runs for 1 meter and here’s the thing, he beat one defender. So it was just like Saturday, literally not moving forward, just trying to wrestle out of the tackle. And he does, because bringing a man down is about his momentum making him fall over a barrier (the tackle).

And here are this so called defensive rock’s tackling stats. Not even taking into account the tackle he never attempted on Mo’unga that resulted in a disallowed try. He missed a quarter of his tackles and made 1 meter.


Jul 09, 2024, 14:18

Ah ok so Tony Brown does not know what he is talking about - I get it

Imagine relying on ESPN stats alone - the most inaccurate stats ever

Jul 09, 2024, 14:29

Tony knows the selection of Dud is finally being questioned and wants to do what every coach does, deal with it in his own time. So he comes up with this bs to take the pressure off…smart

Jul 09, 2024, 14:58

LOL DDA is the best passer in the Bok side...but he's waiting until his final game to show it to us. I call massive BS on this. Kriel, Faf, Pollard, Willie, Willemse... it's very clear they're all better passers.

Just in last week's game, DDA tried to decapitate Kriel with a pass which Kriel then knocked on...and he chucked another that Willie almost had to dive to collect. And neither of these were pressure passes. Best!!! 

Brown is setting DDA to drop him...because he sees what everybody else here sees. 

It's called coaching politics Dave.

Jul 09, 2024, 15:11

Better than Libbock, Wilie Leroux, Faff, Williams... Sure, pull the other one.

The Irish are perhaps the best at the ruck in world rugby, taking over from the All Blacks as the leaders are quick ball retention and slowing down the opposition ball.

Jul 09, 2024, 15:28

Mozart does not realizew thaqt the coaches have far advanced systems that trace every player and activities during matches and not only stats that give no ndicatgion as to success or failure of players  and the idiot emperor has never been right on anything.  He reminds me of the USA Democrats who lied and then claim, it is the truth.

Brown is not going  to praise a player and then make a fcool pf himself and drop the player he praised.  Anybody coming up with that kind of BS must see a shrink as a matter of urgency.       .  

Jul 09, 2024, 17:31

Empocrat - a new type of political leaning?

Mike, I'll go and see a shrink if you promise to download Grammarly spell check.

Deal? It's extremely easy and will get rid of all your spelling mistakes. What I find weird is that you never seem to acknowledge us all complaining about your spelling and grammar?

It's really bad. We're willing to help you...seriously. Not taking the piss, I'd like to help you fix it.

Jul 09, 2024, 18:35

Moz you have come up with some shit at times but this might just be your best

Nice work

Jul 09, 2024, 20:10

Dave do you get the sense that the vortex is sucking you in as you go down with SS Dud Allende.

Jul 09, 2024, 20:13

Agree with you  Dave.     

Jul 09, 2024, 20:30

Moz I’ve always been a DA fan as I completely get his value in the context of modern test rugby and compared to all the other test 12’s out there.

It’s just nice to see Brown endorsing him - it’s a positive

Realistically we need to move on from all these 30 odd year old players but until that time DA is the man without a doubt

Jul 10, 2024, 08:05

Now not only does Brown not know what he is talking about but he is also a liar. 

BWAHAHAHAHA man these halwaits are genuine clowns. A laugh a minute! :D

Whatever next!!! 

Jul 10, 2024, 08:10

Remember when some of these oaks were trashing Jessie Kriel. Guess who was right on that as well. Rassie. 

Just saying. 

Jul 10, 2024, 09:33

As usual, we'll ask for evidence of DDA's greatness but as usual we'll get zip in return.

For the DDA fans, go to Saturday's game.

Have a look at how "fantastic" he was and simply timestamp his "tremendous" contributions.

You can't. You never can because all he does is ruck in midfield. That's it.

When last did he put a player in space? Go on...that's a simply question with a definable answer.

When last did somebody make a break and DDA kept up with him to take a pass and continue the momentum?

When last did DDA make a clean break?

You can't answer these questions because he simply doesn't doesn't do any of those things.

Now, ask us...

when last DDA was held up...answer - on Saturday.

when last did DDA chuck a terrible pass that cost us possession...answer - Saturday.

when last did DDA have brain freeze and confuse everyone around him...answer - Saturday.

So ja, make all the appeals to authority that you want. Act like yapping children who make unsubstantiated claims all you want. Ignore all the evidence as often as you like...

But just don't ask us to take you seriously.

Jul 10, 2024, 09:45

Personally I would rather take the likes of Rassie and Brown and the vast support Allende has in the press, You Tube and from rugby followers than some oaks who have shown their bigotry time and again and have made complete mamparas of themselves regarding the Boks, the coach, Du Toit and Allende.

Fringe lunatics convinced they know far more than the Boks  exceptional coach, a guy like Brown, an All Black with many years of experience as a player and a backline coach etc. Poor Brown now knows nothing and is a liar to boot. 

If you were criticizing a weak Bok  coach like Coetee etc I could cut you oaks some slack. 

How long did we have to put up with the Du Toit bashing from ignorant Mamparas. Hahahaha 

Well it's all come home to roost Mamparas. You will have to work extremely  hard to restore any cred you might once have had. :D


Jul 10, 2024, 10:19


The mamparas do not know in a rugby sense  the difference between their arses and their elbows.    

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Jul 10, 2024, 10:50

Mike, you're hardly one to talk about what is between ears and elbows when your ghastly grammar tells us there ain't much between your ears while your elbows are suffering vibrational strain from your "Cliques" device.

Quite funny though isn't it.

We are not insulting the two of you. We're simply discussing a player...and providing evidence as we do so.

...but you decide to revert to ad hominem.

For now, I'll take the higher ground.

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