de Allende and JL du Preez make

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Apr 06, 2021, 18:04

the Challenge and Champions Cup team of the week

Apr 07, 2021, 03:42

I see Dud Allende, but not Hands of Stone:


Check out the Irish European team of the week below.

15. Michael Lowry (Ulster)
14. Alex Wooton (Connacht)
13. Chris Farrell (Munster)
12. Damien De Allende (Munster)
11. Keith Earls (Munster)
10. Billy Burns (Ulster)
9. Conor Murray (Munster)
8. Paul Boyle (Connacht)
7. Sean Reidy (Ulster)
6. Gavin Coombes (Munster)
5. Jean Kleyn (Munster)
4. Ultan Dillane (Connacht)
3. Stephen Archer (Munster)
2. Rob Herring (Ulster)
1. Eric O’Sullivan (Ulster)

Apr 07, 2021, 04:55

Mozart

Start thinking for a bit for a change,   The selections you  quote are fir players from Irish teams only,    Du Preez does not play for any of those teams. - he is playing for an English club.       

Apr 07, 2021, 05:31

Good point...now that we have broadened our horizons I’m not spotting Dud nor Hands of Stone:

Team of the Week: Champions Cup, Round of 16

15 Kotaro Matsushima (Clermont): The Japanese flyer rocked on Saturday as his last gasp try kicked Wasps out of Europe. He sees off strong claims from Exeter’s classy Stuart Hogg, whilst Romain Buros had a solid day for Bordeaux-Begles in their win versus Bristol Bears.

14 Ollie Woodburn (Exeter Chiefs): Woodburn may not be one of the host of international stars amidst the Exeter ranks but with seven carries for 171 metres gained and a try right at the end, he shone brightly in Exeter’s disposal of LyonPaolo Odogwu reminded us what England had missed in the Six Nations with a glittering display, whilst Arthur Retiere also impressed for La Rochelle.

13 Virimi Vakatawa (Racing 92): The big French centre may have had a quiet year at international level, but he was a feature of Racing’s thrashing of Edinburgh in Paris, with offloads and power runs galore. George Moala excelled for Clermont with the peerless Semi Radardra powerful in defeat for Bristol.

12 Levani Botia (La Rochelle): The ‘Demolition Man’ is one of the best modern hybrid rugby players in the world, able to play either as a three-quarter or a back-rower, but centre was his gig this week and his try was crucial in overcoming a strong showing from Gloucester, for whom Mark Atkinson also shone. In Llanelli, Rohan Janse van Rensburg put in a big shift for Sale in their impressive win at Parc y Scarlets.

11 Teddy Thomas (Racing 92): His brace for Racing 92 was a feature in their superb disposal of Edinburgh, where he answered his critics by looking to get into the game in midfield and on the opposite wing a lot more than in recent times. He takes the nod over Chiefs’ Tom O’Flaherty and Munster’s evergreen Keith Earls, who also grabbed a brace in Munster’s gallant defeat in Toulouse.

10 Matthieu Jalibert (Bordeaux-Begles): With AJ MacGinty shining for Sale, by racking up 32 points, and Jalibert’s French colleague Romain Ntamack starring for Toulouse, it was a vintage week for fly-halves and any of those three men would have been worthy choices. However, UBB were unfancied despite their home advantage against Bristol Bearsand Jalibert produced a masterclass of pinpoint kicking and threatening line breaks, scoring the crucial try to see his side home.

9 Antoine Dupont (Toulouse): The peerless Dupont makes our team of the week yet again with a brilliant two-try display to catalyse a win for Toulouse against Munster. His rival for the title of best scrum-half in the world, Faf du Klerk was equally compelling for Sale, whilst the veteran Maxime Machenaud also delivered the goods for Racing 92 in Paris.

8 Jordan Joseph (Racing 92): France are hardly short of back-row forwards at this moment in time, and the young former France U20 star put in a massive performance of gain line carry and support to take Racing 92 home at La Defense. Elsewhere, Sam Simmonds‘ footwork and electric pace saw him score yet another try for Chiefs, with Sale’s Dan du Preez also impressing in Llanelli.

7 Kevin Gourdon (La Rochelle): The master craftsman of the French back-row reminded the national selectors he still has a lot to offer in international rugby as his power and intellect shone in La Rochelle’s impressive display at Kingsholm. Sale’s Tom Curry was his usual huge physical self, whilst Exeter’s Jacques Vermeulen also stood out at Sandy Park.

6 Dave Ewers (Exeter Chiefs): A big performance from a big man, Ewers crossed to score a crucial try to draw away from Lyon at the 50-minute mark and carried hard all day for some 56 powerful metres. His opposite number Dylan Cretin was a perennial pain in Exeter’s backside, stealing lineouts and supporting well to score in the final moments. Elsewhere, Munster’s Gavin Coombes put in another fine display in defeat, crossing the whitewash twice for a brace of tries.

5 Jonny Hill (Exeter Chiefs): Hill appears to have learned a lot in his months with England this season and put in a huge performance, scoring twice in the first 25 minutes for Exeter. Donnacha Ryan is 38 years old next birthday yet looks like a spring lamb.

4 Josh Beaumont (Sale Sharks): The lesser-known Beaumont was in commanding form in both lineout and carry, crossing the whitewash with a well-executed open field support try for Sale against the Scarlets, and he sees off the claims of Racing’s Bernard le Roux, whilst Jonny Gray also had an excellent outing for Exeter Chiefs.

3 Tomas Francis (Exeter Chiefs): Big Tomas had a memorable afternoon coming on as a half-time replacement for Chiefs. Long gone are the criticisms of his weight and fitness and he enjoyed a powerful display in the loose, claiming the tighthead berth from the excellent Toulouse prop, Charlie Faumuina and, despite his side’s defeat, a determined second half display from Bristol’s favourite Kiwi, John Afoa.

2 Akker van der Merwe (Sale Sharks): Rather like fly-half this weekend, this was a vintage round for the hookers. In fairness, any of Camille Chat (Racing 92) or Julien Marchand (Toulouse) would have been worthy contenders for the crown, but Van der Merwe was massive for Sale, crossing twice and hitting his jumpers all afternoon. To crown it all he also gave us one of the most amusing monosyllabic post-match interviews in recent times as he was clearly overwhelmed with his award of ‘Star of the Match.’

1 Peni Ravai (Clermont): The flying Fijian has been impressive this season after joining Clermont from UBB last season and was instrumental in his team’s win in Coventry. Cyril Baille impressed once again for Toulouse and the veteran Eddy Ben Arous was at his tackling and jackling best for Racing, but Ravai’s score proved crucial for his team and he takes the loosehead berth.

by James While

Apr 07, 2021, 23:31

Nice one Moz as ignorant as ever - Irish side

No JL du Preez in the Irish side - I wonder why?????

Apr 07, 2021, 23:41

I was looking for a side that had either Dud or Hands of Stone....the only one I found was the Irish team that had Dud. But in the all participant team I found neither. You apparently did, could you give us the reference.

Apr 07, 2021, 23:41

Dumb Luc Dupreez is a flat track bully, as is his brother.

Good players below test level, but they do not have the all-round games for international rugby- especially if they both started in the same backrow. 

Neither can touch the ground, or even pass the salt at the family table. 

Apr 08, 2021, 00:56

I saw it on Facebook - one of the rugby sites on Facebook

Shark, wake the fuck up and smell the roses - you clearly are as fucking ignorant as ever.

The du Preez twins have been awesome playing for Sale, not only playing it hard but also plenty of subtle added to the equation

When last did you watch them huh? Fuck sake move on from your pathetic ignorant take on them based on the odd dropped ball some 5 years ago

The du Preez twins would be awesome together in the Bok side - freakish strength is a huge asset in the modern game - it’s why de Allende and Marx are such assets, the du Preez twins are the same

Let me guess you still ignorantly think JVR is fat

Apr 08, 2021, 01:33

Your pack of creatine donkeys would struggle to get around the paddock. 

They would be far to slow to compete at the breakdown or make quick pop passes around the ruck. 

Apr 08, 2021, 03:20

Well that’s hardly grounds for the string Dave, especially as it can’t be resurrected. I’m with Shark here on the Hands of Stone twins....they seem a bit thick.

Apr 08, 2021, 23:50

Shark your ignorant takes on rugby are sooo pathetic

So in your little mind, the du Preez twins are slower than the likes of Vermeulen and PSDT huh

WOW

It’s not the job of a blindside and 8 to compete at the breakdown you ignorant fool

But if you knew anything about their form for Sale you would know that their turnover counts are up there with Curry and the highest in the side

But you keep beating that out of touch and ignorant drum of yours

Moz your take on any player is of little consequence to anyone as you don’t rate most of our players and nor our coach - must be so boring watching the game with your take on our players - negativity prevails, but take comfort in the fact that omelette is even worse than you

I don’t know why you lot bother watching SA rugby

Apr 09, 2021, 01:48

Dan du Preez was one of the most effective carriers in 2019's Super rugby. He was just a tad beneath Thor. I do believe he would significantly bolster the Boks. He is an upgrade on Steph in every facet of the game. Had we Thor, Dan and Louw in the WC... we'd have been a much more imposing side. Probably would have edged NZ even with the inferior game plan.

Apr 09, 2021, 02:17

Louw was always as average as they come

I’m shocked you see merit in the du Preez’s, geez what has happened to you

But you have to be fucking stupid wanting to leave the world player of year out of your starting side

Plain stupidity but highlights your rugby ignorance and I mean that sincerely

Apr 09, 2021, 02:39

@Saffex your unbalanced back row of creatine specimens would be beaten with ease. 

There can be hundreds of breakdowns in a match, making it more important than lineouts and scrums put together.

At least 2 loose forwards should be all-rounders, that can carry and fetch- and able to play a linking role with the backs. If the specialist fetcher is not on form, there needs to be a plan b at the breakdown. 
 
Allrounders can adapt their game based on the situation- like Vermuelen who is a ball carrier and a fetcher. If the pack is losing the breakdown more fetchers are needed, but if the pack is winning more ball carriers are needed.
Kolisi is good, but he is not a fetcher- he is better as a number 8- so having him at 6, certainly means the number 8 will need to be able to fetch. 

The creatine twins while impressive below test rugby levels are certainly not all-rounders. 
They do not have the brain of Vermuelen, despite having younger bodies that are willing in body, but lesser so in mind. 



Apr 09, 2021, 06:00

Kolisi is only okay because he is in a dominant pack....Dud Toit is functional because we play about 70% of the game under Erasmus. We don’t offload, we have no backline complexity.


It all works because we turn the game into a physical battle with our defence and then dominate with the weapons we have. Actually it’s hard to argue against it, except if rugby means more to you than 5 metres and a cloud of dust. 

Apr 09, 2021, 14:19

Sharktwat what part of the du Preez twins being amongst the best breakdown achievers on par with Curry have you not grasped huh?

Read slowly next time - and pay fucking attention

Your rugby ignorance is astounding much like your conservative inability to move on from an initial take on a player not that those initial takes are ever accurate

Apr 09, 2021, 15:10

Mozart

Do you actually watch  rugby games before you write BS on site?   Your take on Erasmus is opposite to the truth - we beat teams because we play a better all-round game than the  opposition do.   

No off-loads is what Meyer instructed the team to do - Erasmus did the exact opposite.    The Springboks used their backline more often than any of their opponents  bar the AB's did in the 2019m  WC.    You only have to look at the tries scored  in the 2007, 2015 amd 2019 and compared the number of tries scored and by whom it as scored. tos ee that you are talking your standard crap/          


Apr 09, 2021, 16:41

Nonsense....we have no structured attack/ none. None of the wing cuts we saw under Snor against the Lions. None of the long range tries from set pieces we saw Habana score after Louw’s brilliant offload...against the ABs under HM.


We have crash ball and defence and then when that forces an error we have counter attack. As I so correctly said, we play 70% of the game under Erasmus.


The hilarious thing is I was telling you for years if we simply beefed up our pack and defence we would be back on top. You disagreed but I was totally right. What I didn’t anticipate is that we would also lose our backline game and play this boring stuff that was the whole Welsh semi.

Apr 09, 2021, 20:22

Crash ball and defence???? - but made more metres, beat more defenders and scored more tries than any other side in the WC

Add that to the best defensive record as well

Result = best side on the planet thanks to Rassie

But Moz we can rely on you and omelette missing out on the facts

May I suggest you give that Billy Beaumont article a read again

Apr 09, 2021, 20:53

We did a bit of everything...nothing was set in stone...the players were given permission to play what was in front of them...Rassie just brought a tiny bit of variation to our game. 

He fixed the easy things to start building from a solid base... for 2 years we constantly grew  as a team to peak in the final...we lost a few battles along the way, but we won when it mattered and we won tbe war...no slight achievement. 

Apr 09, 2021, 21:23

Actually, Rassie eliminated any variation. There's zero. It's the most backward, stunted game in world rugby. A return to the days of Straeuli, but with kicking right up to the opposition 22. Shallow kicks with pressure on the ground. When we do go wider, Willie and our strike runner are most often caught well behind the gain line. Wings need to kick to create space. Wing participation has dropped alarmingly. 

Apr 09, 2021, 22:13

Card, we are playing a much simpler game than under Coetzee or Meyer, but it's still less predictable...and there is much more focus on getting the basics right...I said slight variation...slight but effective. 

Apr 09, 2021, 22:17

PS, we've never played more predictable rugby than under Meyer after the loss to Japan..."laer trek" if ever I saw it in rugby...predictable but effective. 


BTW, I am not and never has been a Meyer-basher...

Apr 09, 2021, 22:55

Omelette speaking utter horseshit for a change

 
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