Given the squad this is the Bok side

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Jun 25, 2024, 23:55

We need to see selected

15. Fassi

14. Kolbe

13. Am

12. de Allende

11. Arendse

10. Pollard

9. Faf

1. Ox

2. Marx

3. Malherbe

4. Etzebeth

5. RG Snyman

6. Kolisi (c)

7. PSDT

8. Roos

16. Bongi 17. Steenkamp 18. Thomas du Toit 19. Moerat 20. Kwagga 21. Williams 22. Libbok 23. Esterhuizen

Jun 28, 2024, 15:24

I think Rassie might go with Kwagga at 8 and Roos of the bench…..also wondering if he might start Libbok and Pollard of the bench? Some of these podcasts say that he might go that way to open the game up….but then with that decision comes the kicking performance, where we can’t lose those points. I would also start pollard and later on bring Libbok to do his thing…. Can’t believe I am saying this, would it not be better to ease a Am in of the bench because of coming back from injury and start Jessica? Also can’t see Rassie dropping a Mostert from the starting 23….with either him Starting and RG of the bench or other way around? Then there is also a Sacha you might see in the mix…. Will he start Willie and bring Fassi of the Bench? Then there is also Edwill van der Merwe….is Kolbe 100% fit?

Jun 28, 2024, 16:09

No progress there…we are still playing Coetzee’s squad.

Jun 28, 2024, 17:52

Coetzee never had a squad - and if - he had it was not apparent from his team slection,  

The last test under Coetzee as coach the Springboks lost against Italy Another two year under Coetzee  would ah ve ccaused irreparable damage.   

Jun 28, 2024, 18:00

Coetzee's squad what is the Mozzietard talking about. He has gone bonkers. 

Your pack is fine Dave but Allende and Kriel should be the centers. 

Edwil in for Arendse and Willie at fullback. 




Jun 28, 2024, 18:30

I think the progress problem, is the fact that all the older players there, did play under Coetzee first ….Rassie,s excuse for playing this core is to give the chance of revenge and beating the Irish team for the first time since 2016…..so ok let them have there revenge and get it done with…..but after the Irish series, he must get rid of most of those players….keep only 7 to 10 of the older core and the rest must get on there bicycles…..maybe you can keep a Willie there as a Backline/ Consultant Trainer….keep Mostert there as the same thing and play if needed ….play Eben, RG , Frans, Bongi, Marx, Pieter and Jasper…..then Pollard, Kolbe, Am and the rest all new.

Jun 28, 2024, 20:56

Ten of the team were Coetzee picks…2 world cups later.

Jun 29, 2024, 03:01

Again ignorance ruled the roost.   Pollard for instance never played for the Springboks while Coetzee was the coach.   Most of the players that used to play under the idiotc Meyer - played fewer tests why Coetzzee was coaching.  His selections were super-idiotic and he left  totally demoralized players on test level.

Another two years under Coetzee and Springbok rugby would have been destroyed.   Mozart said when Erasmus was employed by SARU that they should have stuck with Coetzee rather than appoint Erasmus and he is obviously re-instated that opinion again by comments that he now came  up with.

Lets face facts for a change both Meyer and Coetzee was fired by the club owners because of gross incompteence while they were both rarely criticized by Mozart., while both in fact were  disastrously poor as coaches.

An example was that De Allende was playing together as Springbok centers while in fact they did.only played together in 2 of the ests while Coetzee was the coach .   So why being all upset with Erasmus and why his admiration for two useless coaches and one with a poor record of team building like White.   His history as a coach proved that.

I also do not think the story about Watson  is relevant in this case.  Watson left the  Sharks under  cloud and went to play for the Stormes where he was to my mnd sub-sandard compared to the  Stormers other loosies.    But then his father was the key element causing the refusal to renew White's contract with the Springboks and the person who bankrupted Eastern Provicne Rugby and was inherently corrupt.

The Watson story was never seen in that light and for people to return to that BS is really not of any value to rugby played especially in the last six years.

Be it as it may attacks on the  Springboks after winning 2 WC's in a row are making  unproven claims on site about Erasmus and key players and get support by another coach who are in fact ridiculous.    White's record as a coach  was marred by poor player selection and restriction of Rugby into a ten man game.   The latter was ag ain riven only last week and that is what people try to hush  up.   I used to be a White admirer until his disastrous performance while coaching  the Sharks  and he effectively got  fired by the Sharks in 2014.                 .   

                  

Jun 29, 2024, 09:16

Mozzie is getting weirder by the day!

Hope he is not going the Biden route.

Seems though he is scraping the barrel in his attempt to undervalue Rassie. 

Jun 29, 2024, 11:54

"Ten of the team were Coetzee picks…2 world cups later."

They picked themselves...even Coetzee could see that. Toetie is a good rugby man, buy not a head coach at the highest level...Coetzee didn't do Jack with the same team Rassie won 2 consecutive RWSs with...so yes Rassie developed Alistair's shambles into the greatest Bok team of my lifetime. 

Jun 29, 2024, 23:53

Actually Coetzee was 7 and 4 in  2017. In 2018 Erasmus  was 7 and 7.

Jun 30, 2024, 05:03

Actually you are a biased nut job mozzietard

You prove it day by day.


Jun 30, 2024, 12:20

So why was Coetzee fired by SARU if he was as good as you claimed he was?   An ad o theat the Japanese club he was coaching for fired him becasue eh was destroying the Club - that also ws the case with Meyer at Stade Francais.   you apparently always was a supporter of Coetzee  and neve accepted that he should not have been replaced by Erasmus as you have stated in t he past.

You are beginning to look silly on that score and even our foreign memebrs think you are talking continuous BS on the rugby issue.           

Jun 30, 2024, 12:20

So why was Coetzee fired by SARU if he was as good as you claimed he was?   An ad o theat the Japanese club he was coaching for fired him becasue eh was destroying the Club - that also ws the case with Meyer at Stade Francais.   you apparently always was a supporter of Coetzee  and neve accepted that he should not have been replaced by Erasmus as you have stated in t he past.

You are beginning to look silly on that score and even our foreign memebrs think you are talking continuous BS on the rugby issue.           

Jun 30, 2024, 15:18

Coetzee was a mediocre Bok coach….but he clearly was a hell of a selector. 

Jun 30, 2024, 16:44

"Coetzee was a mediocre Bok coach….but he clearly was a hell of a selector. "

Most rugby people would have selected that team.

 
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