...can't believe I'm cheering on the Poms...
...can't believe I'm cheering on the Poms...
Poms are hyped.
Irish try time….very similar to the Pom first try
And the Poms come back….perhaps the first compelling test since the WC.
Poms are are a good side. Underrated at the RWC.
And England win on a Marcus Smith drop….they played with passion today. Great game.
I guess the Irish are still peaking at the wrong time 
For shame.
oops!
Ireland’s defense was quite poor today…a lot of straightforward missed tackles. Hard to see how they beat the Boks at home.
What a stupid kick from Murray with 90 seconds left!
Ireland’s defense was quite poor today…a lot of straightforward missed tackles. Hard to see how they beat the Boks at home.
What a stupid kick from Murray with 90 seconds left!
Gutted by the result but great game.
Good win 
Great to see Ireland handed one - well played England. Ben Earl was unbelievable
Good old Aki having Earl run straight through him to score
Agreed Earl is the kind of ball carrier we have missed in the Dud era.
" Posted by: Stavanger1 (2482 posts)
Mar 09, 2024, 19:17Gutted by the result but great game."
It's lonely at the top...good to see Ireland can be beaten by the likes of the Poms...kinda put the Poms semi vs the Boks in a different perspective...Ireland’s tour to South Africa is going to be epic...
2 results in the 6N which went against the expectations...good thing for the competition. ...Frogs must be a little bit worried?
It's lonely at the top...good to see Ireland can be beaten by the likes of the Poms...kinda put the Poms semi vs the Boks in a different perspective
That was a very good performance by England yesterday, they showed nothing like that at the world cup.
Ireland’s tour to South Africa is going to be epic.
Yeah looking forward to it.
2 results in the 6N which went against the expectations...good thing for the competition. ...Frogs must be a little bit worried?
Yeah great results for the 6 Nations. Frogs should beat Wales. Be interesting to see if England can maintain that performance against France away from home.
kinda put the Poms semi vs the Boks in a different perspective
About as much as Scotland beating the Poms or the Poms scraping through against Italy puts anything in perspective, Draad.
All the 6N sides are good the only one that has regressed is Wales
England were shit in the WC, Dave. Fiji nearly handed it to them.
Perhaps it puts the WC loss to Ireland in perspective.
Yeah but they came good against us in the semi and them beating a very good Irish side yesterday confirms to me they are a more than handy side
Those players are good on paper but new coach means time is needed - they are starting to look like a team that knows what it’s doing
They looked good against Ireland and Ireland showed their class hanging in when they were the weaker side on the day
Yeah but they came good against us in the semi
They were shit against us in the semi. What did they do that could be considered "good"?
They had a good first half converting pressure into points - they had a first half lead thanks to putting in their best performance in the last 12 months
Point being, they are a good team who've been under performing for a while...they're still capable of winning the odd big match.
They had a good first half converting pressure in the points - they had a first half lead thanks to putting in their best performance in the last 12 months
They kicked on us, dominated the air and kept their error rate down. That was all they did that could be considered good. They had nothing else to offer, yet we kept kicking everything back to them, feeding their area of dominance. That's all that kept them in it, us playing to their strengths and not making even the least effort to change lanes. Thank the bomb squad and Pollard for getting us out of that mess.
So that had nothing to do with England applying the pressure then? You apply pressure and get rewarded for it is usually the sign that you are in control of things. England played well in that first half
They were able to exert pressure because we exerted none….remember Dud Toit apparently commented on that at half time. You do believe Dud don’t you Dave?
PSDT said nothing of a sort
Well anyway, it was a good game on Saturday and we actually deserved to win.
Let’s see what this Saturday brings.
A solid game by England, at least they are using their backs and putting the ball wide.
Listen to it again…..Pollard quoted Dud as saying’ we just have to wake up’. Please check your facts Dave I can’t always be around to set you straight.
PSDT says nothing about not applying pressure all he says in Afrikaans is stop being scared
So while they were scared they applied pressure….Pollard also said it was a mess. Two senior Boks basically said we were not competing. Which is true and easy to admit unless of course that means Eluckmiss didn’t have his team prepared.
I hardly think the team was literally scared now was it Moz?
Fuck me we have done this to death. At halftime the coach has his say while the players sit quietly and listen.
Thereafter the players get into a huddle and say their bit and gee each other up. On this occasion it was the quiet PSDT that had his say. That’s what made it standout, was the fact that PSDT felt drawn to speak.
Of course things needed to change, we were losing, the coach would have identified the changes needed and it was then up to the players to execute. It’s that huddle and squeeze and vocalisation in the circle just before going out that raises the spirits to go out there an execute
It’s why Rassie is the most astute and the best in the business. He identifies issues and makes changes and has a team determined and resolved enough to execute and win when it counts
The man is a rugby genius with a record to prove it. You simply can’t match a CV with two WC victories on it. It’s Dr Rassie these days
Looking at my comments again on the live thread not much seemed to have changed in the second half. My frustration with the way were handing over possession remained, and in fact England had even more possession in the second half than in the first. So not sure if anything PSDT said made much of a difference - sounds like more media pablum. The bomb squad arrived to give us scrum parity and some momentum in the last 20 minutes. That saved the game, along with that incredible Pollard penalty.
pablum
Agree with you, Sharkbok.
Bullshit we dominated their scrum in the second half - created enough pressure through the scrum to get the line out in the corner which ended with the RG try
No try no victory
Reality dictates that what gets said at halftime by players is something that lifts the team for all of about 2 or 3 minutes - once the game gets going all that chest beating stuff amounts to a distant memory
The game was England’s ….Stewart fielded a high kick just inside the half. Incredibly stupidly he launched a high kick which went nowhere. A deep kick would have probably won the game for England, it was minute 77.
But he kicked short. England conceded a scrum and Ox won the predictable penalty. And Pollard unerringly nailed the kick from the halfway line.
That’s how the game was won…genius huh?
Oh what utter crap - England were dominated all second half they crumbled under the pressure
We won thanks to forward dominance in the second half that lead to the RG try and the Pollard kick
The genius is in Rassie keeping his bench strong by having the likes of Ox and RG on it when most of us would be starting RG. Rassie sees things differently and it counts
Any mistakes by the likes of Steward etc was thanks to the pressure we exerted and the lack of composure they displayed.
The polar opposite to the Boks who thanks to Rassie had the belief and resolve to win every game that counted
Not just in one WC but two - the second one being the hardest WC victory route ever - the mark of a rugby genius
Take a bow Dr Rassie Erasmus
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Thanks Blob
So you are saying England would have won if they kept their composure. My point as well. Obviously Erasmus didn’t control their composure….so he had to rely on them imploding, like the French. Hardly a reason for the porker to risk his back by taking a bow.
Fuck me Moz they lost composure as they had no metal and were folding under the pressure exerted on them by the opposition. We dominated them in the second half and won it fair and square
The mark of a great side and coach is to have that metal, keep the composure and win those important games
Take a bow Dr Erasmus you class act
Thank fuck we have the best coach in the business bringing home all the trophies
Moz your continued bashing of our Dr is embarrassing. A lone wolf with no bark
If we dominated them, why was it so close? It could have gone either way in the last 3 WC games….
Dr hahahaha….I missed that. That’s hilarious. What was his dissertation on….the role of luck in our two WC wins? Hold on it’s an honorary doctorate, they just give it to you.
Only the volk could pull this one. Potch university make a coach a doctor. It reminds one of a whole bunch of honorary doctors given to politicians who actually used their title.
Thankfully he can’t get an honorary Knighthood !
Saved that for Sir Nick Faldo, now selling shoes.
Moz do you have an honorary doctorate?
No Becs no one gives a fuck about any acknowledgment bestowed by the English
Carry on like this and I’ll get you deported, Saffex
:)
Asking for trouble, Saffex.
No honorary doctorate, just a real one.
England deserved their victory but the ease of which Lowe scored twice should wurry the poms a wee bit.
We’re a work in progress, Blob.
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But can they sustain it. Amazing watching the Pom scrum putting one over Ireland, Cole and Genge….you can’t be serious!