Injury costs Lomp an arm and a leg

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Apr 05, 2021, 22:09

After recently returning to training following an arm injury, he has now suffered a freak accident and broke his leg. 

It is unlikely he will make the B&I Lions squad. 


Apr 06, 2021, 00:30

Never nice to see injuries to a player. Injuries aside, he should never be in contention for a spot. RG's the best lock in world rugby and his time is overdue. 

Apr 06, 2021, 00:48

Agreed....Snyman needs to be taken seriously. Hard luck on Lomp, but he won’t be missed. This from the Mail’s player ratings in the 2015 semi...


Lood de Jager 6

Brushed off by Jerome Kaino for New Zealand’s sixth minute try – not what you expect from an 18st13lb lock.




Apr 06, 2021, 01:12

Snyman is a quality lock, and it would be good to see coaches make him a more central figure in the game plan. 

He is a very all-around type of player, with an offload and skills game as good at the loosies, or even the inside centre. 

Lood is good, but with the depth the Boks have at lock, he is arguably surplus to requirements. 

Apr 06, 2021, 07:17

Mozart

You should really clean up your act and start he honest what happened in matches.     

Apr 06, 2021, 10:39

Lood is a class act - our third best lock after Etzebeth and RG

Thank goodness Rassie eventually saw through huff and puff Mostert who could not dominate a mouse in contact and replaced him with a real lock in Lood

Apr 06, 2021, 11:18

Lood is routinely out muscled. He is big, not strong. Exerts weight against the weaker minnows, is languid and the worst hands. Mostert has more value, so too Steph. We don't need passive unskilled players with poor mobility. Want to play a more dynamic modern game? You need versatile skills at lock. RG is big, strong, explosive, ballsy and competitive. A man who wants to impose himself on the opposition. We need more of that. Too many passive happy-to-be-there types. 

Apr 06, 2021, 15:04

Yeah Omelette that’s why Rassie replaced powder puff Mostert with Lood in the starting line up

One certainty is that Lood is far far more physical than Mostert. When Mostert takes contact he invariably goes backwards, while Loods carries it forward as a test lock should

Mostert has never been test standard as he has NEVER been able to impose himself physically

He is a physical liability

Apr 06, 2021, 15:24

Have to agree that Mostert will not give you go forward ball, but why does coaches pick him? 

He does have a very high work rate and covers a lot of ground. Very mobile and gets to the break down quickly to secure ruck balls. 

But not sure what else he ads other than his work rate

Apr 06, 2021, 15:27

Mostert is a Matfield type of lock. If you play him, you can afford to play a bigger backrow. 

Apr 06, 2021, 15:47

That’s not the job of a lock King

Matfield was the last of the athletic locks to combine with a bruiser

Those days are done where now more emphasis is placed on operating in traffic setting up phases

Matfield was also a far far superior player to Mostert

Apr 06, 2021, 17:36

I agree that RG is by far way better. Ranks up there with Brodie. Like the fact that RG has ball  skills  and the  way he runs as a first or 2nd receiver in broken play.  

Also really physical. Ja, light weight  locks are a thing of the past

Apr 07, 2021, 03:23

Replaced Mostert with Lomp? You mean he tried to replace Mostert with Lomp. But the moment Vunipola knocked him over Lomp was toast ...and not a moment too soon, on came Mostert to lead the goal line stand and total Bok defence for the WC final.

Apr 07, 2021, 03:26

Light weight locks are a thing of the past? Tell that to Itoje....real rugby players are always effective. And if you are confused about what Mostert adds Corn, read this WC stat, off the bench Mostert is still in the top 5 lineout stealers.


LINEOUT STEALS – PLAYER

1 Guido Pagadizabal (Argentina) – 5

2 Izack Rodda (Australia) – 5  

3 Shannon Frizell (New Zealand) – 4

4 Franco Mostert (South Africa) – 3

5 James Ryan (Ireland) – 3

Apr 07, 2021, 13:47

Mostert is not a freight train of a carrier, but neither is Lood. Lood, Steph and Damian... three unimpressive carriers who don't get you momentum. Splatballers for very stodgy phase play. Mostert does everything to a high standard. Phenomenal tackler and decision maker. Stronger than those other pretenders. 

Apr 07, 2021, 15:47

Mostert is a thinking man’s lock, which is why so many unthinking men don’t appreciate him.

Apr 07, 2021, 16:39

You can't defend Mostert with a cluster of defenders, because he won't simply run into the first man he sees. Against Damian and Lood as well as Steph, you can afford to put three or more players on them because it's only going to ground. Then our cleaners have a mission getting that ball back cleanly. Watch the Damian compilation I posted before, poor ball presentation and body position in contact made for slower ball. The Saffy and Damme Omlett types like watching a solitary man flop into a sweaty pile of men. Makes one wonder... 

Apr 07, 2021, 18:10

Damien getting dragged into a conversation about locks?:'(:angel:

Apr 07, 2021, 19:11

Well Dud runs like a lock. Augie I agree Mostert doesn’t die with the ball. Playing for Erasmus his offloading skills are negated....it’s all 3 man pods and a cloud of dust. But for the Lions this guy shows superb hands.

Apr 07, 2021, 23:28

Nope Lood replaced powder puff Mostert long before the WC final thank goodness

We were long overdue two real locks in the starting 15 not a lightweight insult like Mostert

A thinking man’s lock now that’s a joke - only an ignorant rugby follower would see all the heart and energy Mostert delivers and define that as productivity

But real rugby men see all that energy and heart amounting to very little productivity. Mostert with ball in hand is productive in space, but a liability in traffic. The guy gets smashed backwards. He is weak, there is no muscle definition in that body at all. No bulk, no visible muscle.

We see the same in the tackle, he effects nice low open field tackles, but ask him to go higher and drive a player backwards and you won’t see it happen unless that player is a back

Eben, Lood, RG and PSDT all bring effective forward momentum in traffic

Itoje, the most hyped player in the game? At 1.95m he is not a lock. At 115kg at least he has made the effort to muscle up, unlike Mostert

Itoje is better than Mostert but not a patch on Eben, Lood, RG and PSDT - not even close

Apr 07, 2021, 23:42

But we never had your two locks for long did we? Lomp made very little contribution in the final, Mostert carried the load. And Itoje is much more effective than Dud.

Apr 08, 2021, 00:49

We had our locks together for a good few tests

PSDT is twice the player average Itoje is, it’s not even close

World player of the year - case closed

Apr 08, 2021, 03:09

Lomp wasn’t there when it counted....he left after 22 minutes and the score was 3 all. Hard to argue he was indispensable to our win.


Dud Toit made 2 tackles less than Mostert despite playing 22 more minutes and he ran 4 times for 2 metres, with no breaks or defenders beaten. Even the hype machine had to note that Vermeulen was our best loosie.

Next?

Apr 08, 2021, 11:45

Itoje is a competitive game changer, Steph is not. Steph is a myth, his WPOTYW was nothing more than a popularity award, giving the fans their media darling. Steph doesn't even rank in the top 15 loose forwards of Super rugby. Now, that was a fact! Number 17 of flanks. The likes of Damian, Steph, Kolisi were carried by our real core: Pollard, Beast, Thor, Eben, Mostert, Louw et al. 

Apr 08, 2021, 23:53

Mostert missed 2 tackles is all I know - he did stuff all of note in the WC final

PSDT was as physical as ever and initiated the Kolbe try - pure class

Itoje is about as effective as Mostert in traffic

The most hyped player in the game, much like McCaw in his day

Average as they come

Apr 09, 2021, 00:37

McCaw is hyped....but Luke Watson was highly talented. That sums up your world Dave...a lunatic asylum.

Apr 09, 2021, 01:26

What did McCaw bring to the game?

Was he effective with ball in hand? NO

Was he great at the breakdown? NO

Was he a dominant defender? NO

Was he particularly athletic? NO

Was he a great leader? Yes

Purely from a rugby perspective what exactly did McCaw do?

He is by far the most hyped player ever

I’d say at best he was solid, not even close to being the best flanker ever in NZ, let alone the rest of the world

But feel free to prove me wrong - hell one only needs to watch his highlights package - for a player touted as one of the best ever those highlights are more like lowlights

There have been a few overhyped players over time like Martin Johnson, Jason Leonard, Owen Farrell, Brad Barrit, Itoje, Halfpenny, Keith Earls etc but McCaw sits at the top

Apr 09, 2021, 01:45

Saffy always backs the loser. 

Apr 09, 2021, 02:13

McCaw scored the most  flanker test tries in the history of the game ....basically one every five games.  Why? Because he saw the field....his rugby IQ towers over the Hands of Stone types Dave admires. 


He was also an outstanding fetcher....not a regular like Smith. But if the ball needed to be turned to save the game, McCaw was your man.

But here’s the clincher, his influence on the result:


McCaw‘s win percentage across his Test career was 89%. In the same time span for NZ matches he missed, that figure dropped to 68%. He lost just twice in 61 Tests on home soil.

Apr 09, 2021, 02:13

Omelette coming from you that carries about as much credit as a dog turd

 
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