...and hopefully oom Swys joins him.
...and hopefully oom Swys joins him.
Swys does not like the pressure - great rugby brain but a brittle brain
Does anybody know what happened to the teams Jake left….Brumbies, Sharks, his club team in France. It’s just a question.
Saf
i haven’t followed this story much.
can you tell me factually why players and management want Jake out?
Who cares he currently has achieved fuck all with the Bulls and his pathetic defeatist attitude post the final was both an insult and enough to sack the loser
As per usual good old Jake has got his players backs up
The guy is an average coach with the personality of a sour prick
Sack the loser
"According to Rapport, skipper Ruan Nortje and fellow Springbok Marcell Coetzee led a player delegation that met with Bulls management to express dissatisfaction with director of rugby White’s leadership.
The group is said to have demanded urgent intervention, with some players reportedly threatening not to renew or even to terminate contracts if change isn’t forthcoming.
MORE: Oberholzer cancels Jake’s call
It’s also believed that the relationship between White and assistant coaches Chris Rossouw and Andries Bekker has soured to the point that they barely spoke during the URC final defeat to Leinster two weeks ago."
Ruan Nortje should be more concerned with his pathetic performance in the final.
Ir can be 100% sure Whte services will be termiaed at the end of this month. None of thee two private owners of the Bulls have said anything about attacks on White which resulted like in 2014 in a player rebellion. I think that Coetzee was part of the rebellion of the Sharks against White as a coach in 2014 and he is now clearly believing that White is unable to be a coach due to a number of deficiencies.
Mozart
It is not easy to repair the damage caused the teams White coached and for that a good coach ablr to rebui;t the team is esential and that is also added to that players have to be trained to play planned rugby and essential development of skills by people in ball sense play is an absolute priority, . .
Rubbish…’repair the damage’….how by not even making the finals vs losing in the finals?
Fuck me, not the first time we see this. I use to be a fan of White and bought into his vision back before we won the World Cup in 2007. However, his big mouth always gets him trouble. But the biggest problem is how he treat staff and players.
I do think telling your players that they are not good enough to beat Leinster is not how you get he guy to train and listen to you on Monday.
Northampton convincing beat Leinster and they had a squad full of up and coming youngsters playing exciting brand of rugby. Finn Smith, Pollock to name a few have really brought Northampton back to life.
It is just Jake doesn't know how to pick his team and constantly messes them around.
Oh well, to be honest I think he has had his chance now. Time to pack it in
Mozart
We know your mind is shit when it concern your favourite coach White - who has had a spotty history when it comes to successes and mostly failures:-
https://rugby365.com/tournaments/united-rugby-championship/confirmed-d-day-for-jake-whites-future-revealed/
The last paragraph about the July 4 meeting is really important . Motsepe and Rupert spent a fortune to get the Bulls majority share-holding and in funding of players. Those are basically two that will decide on the future of White is discussed; Motsepe and Rupert appointed Brits to manage their rugby investments.
Brits will know what went wrong insofar as White is concerned That meeting will inevitably deccide on temination and lead to the decision of the shareholders conveyed to White.
Mozart
Damages include playing according to no match day game planning leading to upgrading player skills and abilities as team players involved in matches, That in the end result in player abilities to identify and grading of players in each position, The training then expand to training them in accept aspects within a team context, All of that take time to correct and that also requires a good coach to manage the correct deficincies,
Joke has always been a petulant twat
Hope the Bulls sack him and we never see him coaching again
It was bad enough him selecting B sides to play in the Champions Cup but his post URC final rant was the icing on the cake
How the fuck does Joke expect his players to respect him when he salivates over the Leinster squad effectively saying they were impossible to beat - the same side Northampton beat
One of the main criticisms the players have with Jake White is that he criticises them publicly in the media.
Another issue is that Jake White has stopped communicating with assistant coaches, so they have no idea what the plan is.
Incidentally, this is the longest that Jake White has ever had a job.
One of the main criticisms from players towards Jake White is his tendency to publicly criticise them in the media. Reports indicate that this has been a significant source of discord within the Bulls camp, with senior players such as captain Ruan Nortjé and Marcell Coetzee reportedly leading a player revolt specifically due to dissatisfaction with White's leadership style and his public comments about players 17.
A notable example cited was White's public remark about Springbok outside back Canan Moodie, saying he "had eaten too much food at the buffet" while on tour, which contributed to player unhappiness 7. After losses, White has also been known to highlight his own players' shortcomings in press conferences, which has been described as shocking and demoralising for a team of their calibre 6.
We beat the Bulls as well, Saffolk ;)
Yeah Bulls B side
Now we just need v Graan to take over the Sharks and Franco to take over the Stormers
Yeah yeah, Saffolk !
Franco might end up coaching Wales.
Van Graan is happy at Bath, now that he won the premium, but it would be a fantastic home coming if they managed to get him back the the bools. He has now coached Munster and Bath. As well as restoring pride in the clubs. Then, Franco has come a long way and players like being coached by him.
I would rather bring these coaches back then long in the tooth former players. I want to see what excuses Joke makes when Pollard comes back and Serfontein. Who else will he need? RG and Kriel. He has so many great players at his disposal.
All he is is an boarding school head teacher. Maybe he should go back and coach Koshuis rugby and end it there. He hasn't adapted to treating players like professionals, neither has he ever shown the patience and investment in players in the long term. It was the same fool that didn't want to pick Gary Botha and he kept picking John Smit. Where as Rassie is happy to build a squad and bring more players closer to the boks and being transparent with them.
What Joke does well is to bring structure and discipline to a team. He keeps his rugby simple based on forward dominance and constricting tactics to wear teams down.
However, this requires repetition and doesn't allow for any player development or expansion. You can almost see that Jakes Bools becomes very robotic. It was so evident in the final where they kept trying to bash, kept trying to off load when it was on. The players just couldn't cope. In that final, as I said, they should have reverted to putting on pressure, kick your goals, drop goals, push for the corner and avoid long raking kick returns that turns into a ping pong game.
How many players moaned about his coaching style. Clyde Rathbone who dumped the boks for the Wallabies who Joke hoped would play for the boks given that he coached him at age group level. Then, when at the brumbies it became very apprarent. Jake was trying to copy ball in hand, he brought in Larkham and Greegen to help but just couldn't shake the shackles. Rathbone became so frustrated and was very vocal about it. Joke end up dumping the brumbies 18 months later after he couldn't get the Australian job.
Then ended up and the iShaka's and it was the same story. This time it was Bismark who was very vocal. You can't tell me that player doesn't work hard but he was treated like a child and expected to show at 8 am every day and do a 9 to 5 job. John Smit took over is CEO and it was just a disaster from the start.
Joke some how ended up at Montpellier and again turned them into robots. He had Pollard and Serfontein with them, so many good players and the owners got fedup with him and he had to pack his bags. He then ended up in Japan where his success remains a mystery.
Now he has had 5 years at the bools, longest coaching role post boks.
Look Leinster haven't won a cup for 5 years after their successes in the 10's. They only won the URC and got knocked out several times. Success is not guaranteed, but you can see the fans back both the coaches and players. They may moan when things don'g go their way, but I think Nienaber has won a lot of praise after showing how great defence can win big games.
I also think that is what the boks are missing, that defensive dominance with attacking guile.
The 2015 All Black was one of the most if not thee most dominant teams of all time. They could kick, defend and scrum, brilliant set piece place with Sonny Bill and co. They had a perfect balance of impact players in both the pack and backline. Bringing on a guy like Sonny Bill in the 2nd half that can change the game.
Anyway, as I said, was a fan of Joke, but maybe Wales need to hire him so that he can restore some Welsh pride and then just off load him after 18 months and allow another coach to flourish
I did wonder why of late we always saw Joke sitting alone at matches while his assistants were together in the box
All because Joke thinks it’s a good idea to alienate his colleagues, create a rift and force yourself to distance yourself from the team
This dumbfuck obviously thinks these actions are conducive to building a winning team - all great for morale and positivity
The poor Bulls were fucked before they even stepped onto the field thanks to an incompetent coach, with pathetic man management skills
No one wants to play for an arsehole
WDS
Still waiting for what you regard as Rassie-Ball. By now I assume is just BS spreading by you - but you can still prove otherwise.
Still waiting for what you regard as Rassie-Ball. By nw I assume is just BS spreading by you - but you can still prove otherwise.
Mike do whatever makes you happy.
So good to read that the final was probably Jake’s last game in charge of the Bulls
Hallelujah
Dave
We will by 5 July know what will happen to White and Jakeball in SA - hopefully eliminated,
There is no way they will retain that negative twit after that post final rant, the fact the players, assistant coaches and CEO don’t want him
He is toast thank goodness
We will know by Satirday confirming the end of White's contract with the Bulls, Thre problem is that Ackermann as first choice replacement ha apparentl signed a contract with SARU to deal with development of Under 20 players and may not be available for the Bulls to appoint him.
The other option is Smith - but when the media asked hiim about the issue - he told them NOTHING.
Franco smith a good option, definitely…..
But will he leave his current gig?? I don’t think so.
Johan Ackermann made a good name for Himself at the lion’s, but it was so long ago it’s hardly memorable…..
Jake is lost at sea and best is he finds some solid land and starts over again …..
Anyone is better than him right now in the Bulls job….and it’s kak boring seeing him struggle like this!
move on and find something new please.
I read that Ackermann will join the Boks U20 coaching staff…..
28,625 posts
This after senior players and coaches want Jake sacked
Let’s hope this materialises