Mozart's version of what happened in the game on Saturday as against what really happened.

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Aug 12, 2019, 14:55

I have previously said that  Mozart's version of what happened in games is normally distorted and unreliable because of prejudice.  I looked at all his comments specifically to see what really happened and noted everything and themn wote the following comments on what Mozart wrote  iro the first half:-


Minute 1: 05

Mozart’s version    

Mostert  stops  Bargie dead in his tracks 9 ball is lost backwards – but recovered.

What really happened  

Player went forward about a meter an d passed the ball back while being tackled – attack continued

Minute 1:10

Mozart’s version    

Mostert got up in the tackle and made the next tackle out wide on the Bargie’s 13 in space bring him down cleanly

What really happened

The attack did not go out wide – the attack was in the line where the weak tackle and ball off-load took place,   An open field tackle it was not.  Please note that he made a rather weak tackle and got up in half a second – how did he get out wide anyway,   The 13 went orwqard in the tackle – so it was a clean – but weak – tackle.

Minute 1:23

Stephanie shoots out of line opening a huge gap for Sanchez, he runs through the space Stephanie vacated  outside his marker who made a diving attempt but misses.  Stephanie gets back to the next breakdown and fails to slow down the  ball at his feet.   Bargie try scored.

 What really happened

The Mozart version is totally falsified.   The  defensive line as formed with Du Toit facing a potential attacker.    He did not rush out of line as Mozart made out and did not create any gap through which Sanchez could run through.   Mostert was the player facing Sanchez but despite a feeble tackling  attempt   Sanchez just run past him easily.   The breakdown ball cane back slowly and allowed the Springbok side to be in a defensive line and t try followed a strategic kick by Sanchez.  If that was not the case why did Sanchez  not pass the ball – but make a kick,   A totally misrepresented account and the fact is that Mozart disgraced himself by this garbage.

Minute  7:03

 Mozart’s version

Mostert in joint tackle on Bargie 0- stopped dead

What really happened  

This was a joint tackle – but the Argentinians rtaained possession

Minute 7:06  

Mozart’s version

Stephanie a bit slow in preventing a Sanchez pass  

What really happened

Sanchez managed to pass the ball the moment he was tackled by Du Toit – very ineffective pass that did  not lead to anything.

Minute 9:41

 Mozart’s version

Stepahnie made his first tackle and was carried back 2 meters

Mozart’s versi

A very effective tackle – the ball carrier player did not make ny mters – he went straight down

Minute 10:05

Mozart’s version

Mostert and Stephanie combine with others to stop 2 phases effectively.

 What really happened

The effective tackle – a very good one – was made by Du Toit and as completed when Mostert arrived and fell over his own feet in the process.   As a result of thee xcellent du Toit tackle the abll was recovered by the Springboks.

Minute 10:28

 Mozart’s version

Stephanie tackles, but is knocked  backwards – good Bargies ball

What really happened

There was no completed  tackle made by Du Toit,    Before he could go for the tackle – the Bargie player made a step to the outside of Du Toit and ran past Du Toit.  Not really good enough on the part of Du Toit.

Minute 26:06  

Mozart’s version

The Bargies finally have the ball Mostert in joint tackle – no forward movement

What really happened

Good attempt, but the Bargies recovered the ball easily

Minute 26:12

Mozart’s version

Stephanie and Pollard joint tackle,  Bargie driven back by Pollard who is in the stronger position

What really happened

Du Toit was the primary tackler in this case and the Bargie player was already going backwards in the tackle when Pollard joined him to assist in the tackle.

Minute 26:28

 Mozart’s version

Tackle by Mostert  driven back a meter

What really happened

The tackled player went straight down – no meter push back in evidence

Minute 26:48

Mozart’s comments

Stephanie meets runner at the side of the ruck and pushes him back.

What really happened

Around that time the Argentinians were on the attack after two penalties given away by Mostert and De Klerk.   The corner kick resulted in a driving maul and Du toit played a major role in stopping the maul by coming through in the enter of the maul.   The Argentinians could not get through wh the maul and because of the threat of Du Toit sent the ball down their backline where a handling error stopped the game and it went back to the breakdown where the Springboks were penalized for another side entry by De Klerk and he got carded for that.  

Minute 28:26       

Mozart’s version

Stephanie followed up  Kolbe’s kick-off tackle, gets pushed back

What really happened  

Kolbe and Du Toit plus another player followed up the kick and when threatened by Kolbe the recipient  passed the ball to a player inside of him.  That player was tackled very effectively by Du Toit.

Minute 33:24

Mozart’s comments

Mostert  drives the Bargies to touch in a join tackle.

What really happened

There were two other players involved as well and the driving to touch was not really successful and the ball was recovered by the Argentinians and the attack continued,

Minute 33:20

Mozart’s version

Bargies runner cuts inside Stephanie who left a wide gap

What really happened

I tried desperately to find any prove that the above actually happened and  could not find if it actually happened at all.

Minute 36:06

Mozart’s  comments

After kick-off Stephanie meets Bargie high who shakes him away and goes to ground. 

What actually happened

Du Toit tackled the Argentiniabn receiver and a maul followed – The ball recipient did niot go to ground mysteriously. 

I made notes of incidents in the second half as well and it was the same garbage Mozart wrote above so I would not waste further space on what Mozart wrote.

Just two issues  I want to emphasize showing total bias:-

Mostert missed a tackle attempt on Sanchez - but Du Toit gets the blame for the missed tackle based entirely on Mozart's imagination.

*  Mozart saw the ball passed by Du Toit tp Kolbe going forward?    Neither the referee, the line judges and the video monitor saw anything wrong with the pass and the Argentinians did not call for a review either. But Mozart cannot ehlp himnslef - he was talking Kak about Du toit as per normal.

Now call on Pakie and AO to get you out of the shit you landed yourself in Mozart.       

 

  


  

Aug 12, 2019, 15:31

I'll just address the Bargie try.......the line consisting of Mostert, Stephanie and Vermeulen comes up and Stephanie is slightly ahead.

Sanchez sees the gap and dummies. Stephanie bites and rushes onto his opposite and actually makes contact. He has opened a gap which Mostert now has to defend. Vermeulen recognizes the risk and tries to turn to plug the gap, but it's too late.

Sanchez breaches our defensive line at exactly the spot Stephanie should have been.

This is modern defence 101.....when a player runs across the face of your defence he is simply handed on to the next tackler. Unfortunately in this case there was no next tackler, he had rushed out of line and bitten on the dummy.

Stephanie isn't even aware of the gap and the risk.....and is too far ahead of Sanchez to provide any help.

Aug 12, 2019, 15:47

This is a nutcase explanation to correct the BS he wrote originally,  A lie as good as any he told us for years.  This is and remains total BS and one can believe it comes from a biased fool like Mozart.   Your version is total garbage and lies like that should actually not be allowed on this site.

No Mozart - as per normal you are talking total KAK again   

Aug 12, 2019, 15:47

This is a nutcase explanation to correct the BS he wrote originally,  A lie as good as any he told us for years.  This is and remains total BS and one can believe it comes from a biased fool like Mozart.   Your version is total garbage and lies like that should actually not be allowed on this site.

No Mozart - as per normal you are talking total KAK again   

Aug 12, 2019, 15:55

Corrected nothing....just provided all the details exactly as they happened.

Aug 12, 2019, 16:03

Oh and on your problem finding the missed tackle at minute 33.20.......go to exactly minute 33.20 on the match time clock. Stephanie is the first tackler. The pass is from Cubelli to Boffelli who beats Stephanie's tackle on the inside, exactly as reported.

And by the way if you want to see how a modern defence deals with a lateral runner go back to 33.13.....Cordero tries to outflank Nyakane, but Etzebeth pinches in to close the gap......exactly what Stephanie should have done when the Bargies scored.

Aug 12, 2019, 16:08

Mozart

Get your house in order - distortions of what actually happened is total BS.

Aug 12, 2019, 16:16

So what happened on your screen at minute 33.20 Muck? I'm curious.

Aug 12, 2019, 17:06

Nothing much happened - but I will look again to see whether you have falsified anything else aside from what you already have done.   .    

Aug 12, 2019, 17:06

Nothing much happened - but I will look again to see whether you have falsified anything else aside from what you already have done.   .    

Aug 12, 2019, 17:52

Come now Muck it's a simple request, what happened at minute 33.20.

Aug 12, 2019, 18:02

I said I will have a look at the game again and come back to you. 

 
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