23 reserves Saffex and still only beat the ABs 14 men by a point…..
23 reserves Saffex and still only beat the ABs 14 men by a point…..
Moola who won the WC? And who won the WC before that
Are you still smarting? Move on
Rassie has stated that he wants to give most of the old guys another crack at beating Ireland, so I think we will see Willie at 15….I do not think lood will feature in the reserves. I think Rassie will start Franco at 5 or he will be on the Bench….. but the rest is most probably who Rassie will pick.
Rassie is a huge fan of Lood so why the hell would he not pick him huh?
The same Lood that Matfield said was the best 5 in the game
Let me guess Rassie and Matfield are clueless?
"The same Lood that Matfield said was the best 5 in the game"
Where and when was this?
Because lood hasn’t been playing for the Boks for a long time and like I said I think he will go with Mostert simply because he is our incumbent 5 and rightly so.
Get your fucking facts straight Lood is the incumbent 5, useless Mostert was dumped as the starting 5 pre Covid and only started again in the last WC when Lood was not available
Mostert is useless - RG is far, far, far better as is Lood
I’m guessing it’s between Lood and RG to start against Ireland - hopefully it will be RG with Lood or Ruben v Heerden on the bench
All real locks not a light weight physical liability
Here we go DA:
Ex-Springbok captain De Villiers laments loss of injured trio at World Cup Johannesburg (AFP) – The absence of three injured first-choice players will be a massive challenge for South Africa in their Rugby World Cup defence, according to three former Springbok captains including Jean de Villiers.
Fly-half Handre Pollard, centre Lukhanyo Am and lock Lood de Jager were all missing from the squad announced in Johannesburg on Tuesday.
However, all three are on standby in case of injuries during the tournament, which starts in France on September 8, with the Springboks facing Scotland two days later.
"The squad is very different to what we would have chosen prior to what we know now," former centre Jean de Villiers told SuperSport.
"If you had to play a World Cup final today you would have selected all three," he said.
John Smit, who captained the Springboks to victory in the 2007 World Cup in France, said the loss of Pollard was a heavy blow as it left the team without an established, match-winning goal-kicker.
"World Cups are won by goal-kickers," said Smit. "We have to figure out who our top three goal-kickers are."
Former star lock Victor Matfield, the most capped Springbok with 127 Test appearances, said the selection of 2019 World Cup-winning captain Siya Kolisi was "fantastic for the country".
But all three former captains shared concern about his match fitness after a long lay-off since knee surgery in April.
De Villiers said defining leadership roles would be important.
"Siya might be the captain of the squad, but he might not be the captain on the field.
'Leadership roles'
"You need to be clear about the leadership roles. We have also lost two leaders in the backline in Pollard and Am."
Matfield added, "Those three (injured players) are a big loss. We only have one recognised fly-half (Manie Libbok), although Damian (Willemse) can play there as well.
"De Jager is the best number five lock in the world. He is the guy running the lineouts."
Smit said Springbok coach Jacques Nienaber and director of rugby Rassie Erasmus had to make tough choices.
"It's difficult to take a guy who is injured to a World Cup because you cannot really send him back. What Jacques and Rassie have done is smart.
"They have picked guys who are fit and able, and they have put the rest on standby. If anything happens to one of the (selected) 33, they can call them up."
De Villiers said South Africa's depth of playing strength "could also be our biggest weakness. I am not sure we know who are best team is."
Matfield said warm-up matches against Wales in Cardiff on August 19 and New Zealand in London on August 25 were important in the build-up to their World Cup opener against Scotland.
"We don't have a pool set-up where we can play guys who are out of form, there are no really easy games.
"I think in the next two weeks we will see as close as possible to the team that will run on in our first World Cup game."
The Scotland match will be followed by pool games against Romania, Ireland and Tonga.
Group winners and runners-up qualify for the knockout stage.
© 2023 AFP
John Smit, who captained the Springboks to victory in the 2007 World Cup in France, said the loss of Pollard was a heavy blow as it left the team without an established, match-winning goal-kicker.
"World Cups are won by goal-kickers," said Smit. "We have to figure out who our top three goal-kickers are."
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World Cups are one by goal-kickers said Smit. Who else said that? Gosh it was me, to huge denials. Pollard won the World Cup and the nutter who coaches the Boks almost left him at home.
Oh boy Moz and what did Smit say here huh?
‘Smit said Springbok coach Jacques Nienaber and director of rugby Rassie Erasmus had to make tough choices.
"It's difficult to take a guy who is injured to a World Cup because you cannot really send him back. What Jacques and Rassie have done is smart.
"They have picked guys who are fit and able, and they have put the rest on standby. If anything happens to one of the (selected) 33, they can call them up."
Case closed
Nonsense….Libbok wasn’t able which he proved by almost losing the French match….until Pollard came on and won the damn thing. Eluckmiss rescued by a series of lucky events…..Marx’s injury saved the nutter.
No Moz you miss the point Smit is making - he says as everyone in the know does that you don’t select injury players - what part of this obvious fact are you missing?
At the time the WC squad had to be announced, Pollard was still under an injury cloud, he had not played a single minute of rugby in months
So as Smit correctly points out, Rassie made the correct call something you choose to ignore everytime
Pointing fingers at Rassie for not selecting an injured players serves only to embarrass you
Your attempts to discredit the best coach the Boks have ever had fails at every turn. You simply can’t argue against back to back WC’s, not to mention RC, Lions series and being ranked number 1
Yeah Rassie is clearly a clueless nutter. Let me guess - all those records are down to luck lol?
He threw three heads in a row….chances of that are 1 in 8. Lucky, very lucky….to say nothing of a Final opponent playing half the game with 14 men.
What a joke - luck my arse
Ah yeah back to that 14 man shit again failing to compute the fact that SA had 14 men for 20 min including the vital last 10, had no specialist hooker for 78min to drive home the set piece advantage and the game was played in the pouring rain
Go tell the Lions about their thumping of sides with 15 men while they played with 14 - not once but twice this season
Rassie lucky my fucking arse
Rassie is a rugby genius and that’s why he keeps winning everything
When he wins a 3rd WC will that be down to luck as well lol?
Wrong I computed the net time the Boks had a man advantage…..net, look it up. As for not having a replacement hooker, if that was a disadvantage it was all down to the nutter. Bailed out by Pollard, the man he didn’t think he needed and a dubious red card.
Injury list ................. Kitshoff Marx Kwagga Willemse Am
Amendments additions welkom
"Here we go DA:"
And this article was posted in August 2023..... so it's very current, which is what I was wanting to check.
Thanks Dave
Lood might of been the incumbent 5 lock, but right now he isn’t….so if he gets picked, it will not be on form but reputation….if you want to drop Mostert, then do it for a Ruben van heerden or a Ruan vermaak, that makes much more sense.
Stop speaking shit Lood is in great form in Japan and Mostert is not the incumbent he was only there because Lood was injured
Mostert has to go for either RG or Lood and the likes of Ruben v Heerden, Jason Jenkins, Ruan Vermaak, Andre Smith, Reinhardt Ludwig and Moerat are far better squad options than powder puff
Net red card means fuck all when you are down to 14 in the vital last 10 min, the 14 man NZ side was nullified by our lack of a specialist hooker and the weather conditions
Um hello what part of not selecting Pollard because he was injured are you not comprehending?
And your nutter made the non hooker call and guess what he won yet another WC
Dubious red card my arse - what utter horse shit
Saffex, go easy on Moffie. The poor old relic is still feeling very "unsatisfied" and "dispirited" by the Springbok win.
LMAO!
I am really not bothered with the views of an old coot who calls the coach a fake and then does a 360, admiring him after he beats a 14 man team by 1 point, just to be popular. LMAOFY!
Net is a simple concept, it’s the total number of minutes one team is down a man. It takes into account cards for both teams. The net card differential was 40 minutes, which comprehensive studies have shown is worth 10 points. We underperformed that margin by 9 points….despite 3 points earned for a penalty the ref admitted was not a penalty.
Celebrate that if you like. To me it was an unconvincing performance. But then, I’m not a groupie or an old coot who needs to be popular.
Net bias is even simpler...
Is there a president (sic) for that… hahaha!
It was a WC final helloooooo
It does not matter how you win it - just win it
The only reason you have issues with our great side’s achievements is your misplaced disregard for the best coach the Boks have ever had
Why do you dislike Rassie so, what has he done that finds no favour with you? I’m intrigued as it makes absolutely no sense at all
People who have trouble admitting they are wrong have difficulty seeing beyond themselves. Many are insecure, have a strong ego, and are afraid of looking stupid. Also, people who need help admitting they are wrong are not well grounded.
https://www.yourtango.com/self/toxic-reasons-people-cant-admit-theyre-wrong-according-experts
So the best way to win a final with a one man advantage for 40 minutes is to rely on your kicker being better than their kicker? Genius.
All Blacks 2 kicks out of 4/Boks 4 kicks out of 4….and we win by 1 point.
So with a 10 point handicap….a 5 point kicking handicap….a 3 point Bok penalty which the ref admitted wasn’t a penalty….we should have won by 18 points and we win by 1. In other words we had no control over the result. It was luck,
The only fish that follows the stream is dead.
"It was a WC final helloooooo
It does not matter how you win it - just win it"
That goes for any game or match ever.
A team that wins a league by simply winning still wins the league. It's a nothing statement really.
A team that is too afraid to press home an advantage, decreases that advantage and increases their chances of losing. That's not a smart move in anything competitive.
The loss of Bongo was huge. But the loss of their captain was far bigger for the ABs.
I think Rassie is a good coach. I think many teams envy the Boks and Rassie could probably get into a job anywhere he chooses, when he chooses, at this point.
But none of that means the Boks played a smart final or that wasn't an incredible amount of luck involved.
Here. Think about all the times you've heard the phrase "x lost the game as opposed to y winning it." Every time you've heard that phrase you knew exactly what it meant and probably agreed with whomever said it.
Now, see if you can apply that phrase to the WC final. If you mind blocks you from doing so then you're a Rassie fanboy and not being honest with yourself. Because the Boks got all their points on offer while the ABs didn't.
Still, that was the best RWC in history and it's very sweet the Boks came out on top. Their profile has skyrocketed and they seem to have pipped the ABs as the darlings of rugby in the eyes of the masses.
Can I just add, the English really are a sport loving nation. They support their own side to the hilt but their sports journos(not legacy media types but rather independents) are so damn objective in coverage and reviews that one simply has to admire them.
But none of that means the Boks played a smart final or that wasn't an incredible amount of luck involved.
Our nerve held...the Allblacks were desperate and we were down a man during the final 10 minutes...we kept them out...no other team in world rugby would have been able to do that...we defeated them in the finals for 2 of our 4 RWCs...
Compare the 2019 final the 2023 one.
2019 was a master class with zero luck involved. 2023 was the opposite.
England were in the 2019 final for about 20 minutes. The ABs were in the 2023 final until the final whistle and had numerous chances to win the game despite being the worst ABs in decades.
You could balance it out by looking at our 1/4 and 1/2s games but let's not forget that the ABs had to get past Ireland.
I just find it odd that we can't seem to admit how lucky we were. We were one relatively simple missed kick by the ABs away from losing.
Hence they lost the game more than we won it.
Still, I've already watched all three our knockout games back about 5 times each and it doesn't matter that I know the result or have watched those games multiple times, the suspense remains, every time. A great advert for rugby.
Ofcourse we were lucky...but it wasn't down to luck alone.
"Still, I've already watched all three our knockout games back about 5 times each and it doesn't matter that I know the result or have watched those games multiple times, the suspense remains..."
The French match was probably the best match of rugby I've ever seen...and the significance...our boys had balls of tungsten!
Ja, that French game was crazy. Started with everyone scoring tries, and then slowly became a pressure cooker. It had literally everything.
The world was robbed of seeing one of the best hookers of all time in those games though. I'd like our leaders into the next WC to be Marx and Willemse...with Roos hopefully being groomed to eventually take over.
No matter how many times I say it, I actually can't believe the names Springbok rugby is tossing about of late. Marx, Willemse, Arendse, Eben, Pollard, Moodie, Roos...it's like a never ending list of people that would walk into any team on earth.
Honestly, I prefer to focus on that because I'm all too aware of not wanting to take a golden seat for granted.
"Is there a president (sic) for that… hahaha!"
LoL...glad you can enjoy the little things in life.
What I don’t get is the inability of rugby followers to understand the significance of losing Bongi in minute 2 and how this negated the Kiwi’s losing Cane.
So had Bongi stayed the duration we probably would have won the final by 15 to 20 points.
Losing a forward means a weaker opposition pack, with a back filling in on the side of the scrum at scrum time. Given this fact, we have to assume that with Bongi on the field we would have dominated the scrums and won a good number of scrum penalties, giving us kicks at poles or kicks into the corner.
Added to this, is the effect on the line outs - with Bongi throwing in we are more or less assured of accuracy.
What we got instead was Fourie at 2, which effectively nullified our ability to enforce the numerical advantage in the set pieces.
Also worth considering is the fact that if you are drawing a back into the pack that leaves one short defending out wide. In normal good weather conditions on a hard surface you can exploit that man down out wide. But again conditions conspired against the Boks on the day given the rain throughout the game and in the days preceding the match. The underfoot was hardly conducive to spreading the ball wide.
But hey ho all we ignorantly hear is that the Boks struggled to beat 14 Kiwi’s. If you don’t get the Bongi loss you don’t know your rugby.
It’s no different to saying a player had a great game because he gained 50m with ball in hand when those 50m were a simple run in unopposed
What I don’t get Saffex is how you can possibly say that Bongi being replaced by Fourie equated to the ABs losing Cane (also the Captain) for well over half the game!! You are the ONLY one on this site spouting this garbage! Good on the Boks for winning the RWC but for fucks sake just admit everything fell into their lap and they were just a teensy weensy bit lucky! Do we need another poll on this question??
We were more than a bit lucky in the end.
No moola read what I said and I stick by that - losing a player is tough but the Boks lost players as well including one for the last 10 min but not having a specialist hooker negated our ability to press home the numerical advantage in the set pieces
If you don’t get that you don’t know your rugby. I’m not saying the loss of Cane was equal to us losing Bongi I’m saying that had we not lost Bongi we probably would have won that game by 20 because of the numerical advantage
The fact that it was pissing with rain and had been for days also put pay to playing attacking rugby out wide, taking advantage of the numbers
I stick with my take with 100% conviction
Well Clitoris to be honest, I think it’s your time of the month and you feel overwhelmed ….even if we had 2 Bongi ,s on the field that day, we would not of put 20 points on the AB….the biggest reason was the very limited gameplan that we were using that day….Stampkar Deluxe is loosing it’s effectiveness by the day.
Well all I wish to say is that thankfully Mostert was available for the last RWC and as usual always delivers a 100% effort.
Between him and Smith you could not ask for two harder working players who lay it on the line game after game.
Two outstanding Springboks who fortunately do not meet the low standard that some bloggers accept or expect.
Pity.
But can find a reason to select Moerat...I ask you.
Only an ignorant rugby follower will not see past all the heart and energy
Springbok locks need to be physically imposing first and foremost unless their name was Victor Matfield who to his credit at least put in the effort to muscle up to a respectable 115kg in his prime
Powder puff Mostert is anything but physically imposing
The end
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Beast.
He went totally under the radar for most. Alongside Eben, quietly building the most successful lock pairing the Boks have had in the pro era.
Do we all agree on the highlighted part?
Won two world cups…can’t argue most successful lock combo ever. I’m trolling through these oldies because there is a dearth of new thinking lately.
Mostert is easily one of the worst Bok locks ever - I’d put him above Orie and Albert vd Bergh and that’s probably where it would end. He is better than Johan Muller as well and maybe Selborne Boome
Packing behind Ox, Mostert was clearly very physical. ….oh hold on, Ox dominated all our opponents with no drive behind him.
Mostert very physical bwhaahaaa
Ox does the same for the Sharks without powder puff behind him
Physical and Mostert do not go together and that’s a fact
No prop could function with a deficient lock behind him. And frankly Ox is at his most dominant in the Bok pack.
Biggest joke of the year - Mostert being physical
The thin guy with no muscle mass and narrow shoulders
The guy that could not clear out the 18 year old Georgian fullback
Mostert is a few things but physical is certainly not one of them - implying he is is literally insulting to anyone’s intelligence
As for Ox being more dominant as a Bok that is complete bullshit - nothing changes when he scrums down as a Shatk
Franco plays 5… so isn’t he scrumming behind Frans and Eben at 4 behind OX?
No it’s the other way round. A 4 is called a tighthead lock he scrums behind the tighthead as he is usually the bigger, stronger grunt lock
No they switch for the Boks. And that’s been the protocol for a while. We put the big man behind the tighthead.
But in fairness, in the RWC Snyman was behind Ox in most matches.
Dave please post the video of the Georgian fullback….you use it so often we deserve to share your joy.
5 - tighthead lock, as he packs down behind the tighthead prop in the scrum. The tighthead prop is under more pressure in the scrum, thus in order to help the tighthead prop, the tighthead lock is usually the stronger scrummager of the two locks. This usually translates into him being the heavier of the two.
4 - loosehead lock, picked more for his lineout abilities, with less emphasis on scrummaging. Likely to be the more mobile, thus will have slightly different roles in attack and defence. //
Team announcement today, 1 pm.
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Mostert fetching, Mostert driving through mauls, disrupting Lions’ lineouts, ankle tapping backs in space……this guy is a contribution a minute.
And he just keeps going….well at least we get it and appreciate it….a true Bok warrior, that will Start again on Saturday together with Eben ….the real Powder puffs are the locks that get hyped up, but hardly Starts….they can’t handle the punches and are mostly injured.
Mostert is a physical liability - no footage of him physically imposing himself - as a minimum a Bok lock needs to be physically imposing
Moz I’m sure that Bok vs Georgia game must be on YouTube - would be very strange me making up a story about a Georgian fullback don’t you think?
As for the tighthead lock 4 he always scrums down behind the tighthead for every country not just SA
Dave I would never accuse you of lying….I would just like to see the circumstances.
I had a quick look on YouTube and only saw highlights of the 2021 game they played against Georgia at Loftus
What a player that #5 is, he is everywhere and made some excellent plays.
Only the blind cannot see it.
WHAT AN EXCELLENT SPRINGBOK LOCK AND PLAYER.
Geez Dave Eluckmiss dropped 6 of your starting team….do you accept the Genius is right?
I remember the failed cleanout on the Georgian back. Just don't remember enough of it, memory paints its own pictures, but it did happen. I'll trust Dave that it was Georgia.
It was definitely the Georgian fullback who was 18 years old
no footage of him physically imposing himself
Gee Dave, look at him making meters through each of the first two tackles in that video above. Watch him drive through the ruck to effect a possession turnover at 3:00 in the video. You don't want to see it, you ain't gonna see it.
Moz the only blindingly stupid call by Rassie is selecting Mostert over RG - there is absolutely zero excuse for preferring a pretender to a player that potentially is even better than Eben.
For the rest he has chosen experience over the future which I get as we are playing Ireland and there is no scope for experimentation and players finding their feet in test rugby
So Willie ahead of Fassi I completely get, supported by the fact Willie has been in great form for the Bulls
Jessie Kriel ahead of Am is purely down to Am having played no rugby for ages plus Kriel had a great WC and was good against Wales
Bongi ahead of Marx I totally get - Marx has been out for ages and was very rusty against Wales
Kwagga ahead of Roos is purely an experience thing as is Koch ahead of Thomas on the bench. Given his 6/2 split he had to go with Sacha over Libbok or Esterhuizen as Sacha covers 10, 12 and 15.
So for me it’s only the Mostert call that I find mind boggling
He prefers Lood over Mostert which I completely get but RG is far better than Lood so I’m struggling to understand the selection. I can only think RG has not unfortunately not played that much test rugby given his injuries
Well I assume all the Lions players he man handled in the above tape were stronger than the Georgian fullback. So I assume we can forget about that unverifiable incident?
Oh give me a break he is running at a flyhalf I’m talking about in the trenches in test rugby
Show me footage of Mostert dominating a collision against a forward or putting in a dominant tackle, smashing a player in the process
He simply can’t do it
He prefers Willie because Fassi is still susceptible to making big mistakes. And Willie sees the field better than any other Bok.
Kriel is now our lead center….Am will get back at some point for obvious reasons …not now, because Kriel is part of the defensive fabric.
Libbok is a loser…..we won’t see much more of him
Bongi is preferred for obvious reasons.
Kwagga is better than Roos at this stage.
Mostert is our biggest contributor and fills the gaps left by Kolisi and Dud.
Kwagga is not a better 8 than Roos he has never really shone at 8 or as a starter for that matter
Libbok is too classy a player not to be back - as Brown says he needs to work on his goal kicking which he says is an easy fix
Mostert is literally utterly useless - a complete physical liability
I’d literally have 10 other locks ahead of him as my Bok option headed obviously by RG and closely followed by Ruben v Heerden
Dave you really should accept the verdict of the genius….watch the Lions tape. See the Lions wing beat Am and Mostert cover tackling bring him down with a brilliant open field tackle. Watch him pull off the turnover under pressure we have waited in vane for Dud to make, and they are the same height.
Moz I would not be selecting a lock in a Bok side that makes great cover tackles - it’s simply not his job.
If he was an 8 or openside then yes maybe or if he was a big physical guy that did his primary lock role well and still made all those tackles then yes
For me personally a Bok lock first and foremost has to be big and physical so that he is able to impose himself physically with ball in hand, tackling, mauling, scrumming etc
Anything else like making 15 tackles a game is secondary - a bonus.
Mostert fails in his primary function and this is a fact, I’ve seen it for over a decade now and that’s not going to change
Rassie knows this, it’s why he replaced Mostert with the more physical Lood and had RG played more tests then no doubt he to would be partnering Eben and bloody well should be it’s a no brainer
The fact that the massively impressive RG is being overlooked by such a physically inept player pisses me off beyond boiling point.
If it was a marginal call then fair enough but it’s literally night and day
How the fuck can any coach pick Mostert over RG?
I love Rassie but this is his one big fuck up. He saw the light with Lood he is fucking dragging his heals with RG
We are wasting an amazing talent in RG for a fucking sad excuse for a Bok lock
If Mostert effected a turnover it’s the only one he has ever done just like PSDT has done on occasion. As you literally never see these tall guys doing it. One turnover is not the measure of his ability effecting turnovers as we all know Mostert, Eben, PSDT, Lood and RG are not in the habit of doing so. It goes against physics
And yet Ollivon who is 6’6” does it all the time. So Dave do you think that having Dud Toit and Kolisi on the flanks, neither being able to fetch, is a handicap. Possibly that the inability to protect the ball on the ground limits our willingness to run. That expecting one loosie and a hooker to do all our ball on the ground work means we are at a disadvantaged to teams with four or five fetchers in the pack?
No it’s not a handicap because we have the likes of Marx, Kitshoff, Bongi, de Allende, v Staaden, Kwagga and Kolisi effecting turnovers
You are mistaken Ollivon is not know for being a turnover king - no tall players in world rugby are seen turning balls over as they simply struggle to get into position to effect
From the RugbyPass Team of the WC Tournament :
For a man of 6ft 7ins, Ollivon can shift through the gears, with his giant strides hoovering up the turf in front of him. Seen by many in the camp as the true leader of Les Bleus, the Toulon man has, like Courtney Lawes, turned into an effective proponent of the breakdown steal. Were it not for a Jesse Kriel ankle tap on the big blindside late on in the quarter-final, he could yet have been France’s hero.
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And Kolisi never makes turnovers….stick with moz.
Moz I watch him all the time turnovers is not a big thing of his and Kolisi definitely effects turnovers - it’s not his thing but he does effect them
Olivon is a special player his stats for the WC
RUGBY WORLD CUP 2023 KICKS FROM HAND 0 RUNS 32 PASSES 17 OFFLOADS 3 CLEAN BREAKS 2 DEFENDERS BEATEN 5 YELLOW CARDS 0 CARRIES 19 METRES MADE 186 TACKLES 47 TACKLE SUCCESS 92% HANDLING ERRORS 2 TURNOVERS 0 RED CARDS 0
/// Although he was not very successful at Turnover ball in the WC, I have seen him make some in the Top 14 and Six nations….For a player standing at 1,99 m he can effect Turn overs.
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With Willemse out this would be my side
15. Fassi
14. Kolbe
13. Am
12. de Allende
11. Arendse
10. Pollard
9. Faf
1. Kitshoff
2. Marx
3. Malherbe
4. Etzebeth
5. RG Snyman
6. Kolisi (c)
7. PSDT
8. Roos
16. Bongi 17. Ox 18. Wilco Louw / Thomas du Toit 19. Lood / Ruben v Heerden / Jenkins / Moerat 20. Kwagga / Elrigh Louw / Hanekom / Emmanuel Tsituka / JL du Preez / Dan du Preez / Vincent Tsituka 21. Williams / Papier / Nohamba 22. Libbok / Masuku 23. Esterhuizen / Moodie / David Kriel / Gelant