Prince Alexander Obolensky….what a life

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Dec 19, 2024, 15:54

A member of the Rurik dynasty, Obolensky was born at Petrograd(now Saint Petersburg) on 17 February 1916, the son of Prince Sergei Alexandrovich Obolensky, an officer in the Tsar's Imperial Horse Guards and his wife Princess Lyubov Obolenskaya (née Naryshkina).[2]The family name derives from the ancient Russian city of Obolensk; they fled Russiaafter the Bolshevik Revolution of 1917 and settled in Muswell Hill, London. 

Obolensky was educated at The Ashe Boys' Preparatory SchoolEtwall and Trent CollegeLong Eaton, both in Derbyshire, before going up to Brasenose College, Oxford in Michaelmas 1934, where he held a college exhibition and read Politics, Philosophy and Economics; he graduated with a Fourth Class degree (BA (Oxon)) in 1938. He was also appointed a Knight of St John in 1938.[3]

At Oxford he won two rugby blues representing Oxford University RFC as a wing/three-quarter. Having previously played for Chesterfield RFC whilst still at school, he played for Leicester Tigers between 1934 and 1939, as well as Rosslyn Park FC; his selection for England caused a stir because he was not a British subject, although he was naturalised British in March 1936.[4]

On 4 January 1936. Obolensky scored two tries on his England debut in a 13–0 victory over the All Blacks, the first time England had beaten New Zealand. Aided by Pathé News footage of the game, his name has entered into legend, since the first try, beating several All Blacks in a run of three-quarters of the length of the field, was widely regarded as the greatest try of the time, and one of the greatest tries ever scored by England.[5]

Prince Obolensky won three England caps later that year (against Wales on 18 January, Ireland on 8 February and Scotland on 21 March), but scored no further tries. He was selected as a member of the touring party for the 1936 British Lions tour to Argentina. He also played seven games for the "invitation only" Barbarian F.C.between 1937 and 1939, scoring three tries.

On 12 August 1939, Obolensky was commissioned as an Acting Pilot Officer in 615 Squadron (Royal Auxiliary Air Force (RAuxAF)),[6] being stationed at RAF Kenley and at the outbreak of the Second World War in 1939, he joined RAF 504 Squadron.[7]

Death

On 29 March 1940, a day after being recalled to the England squad to play Wales,[8] Pilot Officer Obolensky was killed during training when his Hawker Hurricane Mark 1 overshot the runway at Martlesham Heath AirfieldSuffolk.[9] His aircraft, reference number L1946, dropped into a ravine at the end of the runway during landing, breaking his neck. Aged 24,[10] Obolensky was buried at Ipswich New Cemetery.[11]

Dec 19, 2024, 16:49

A very interesting  item.   Prince Obolensky descended from an aristocrat by that name who becme famous as a Rssian G eneal in the 16 th century who was given the name Prince Repnin oas well.  Since then the Prince Replin  was a branch of he Obolensky  family - but the Repnin title became distinct in 1803 and the daughter of the last Prince Repnin was married to the Dogurkov faily and had a son which was re-instated by the the emperor Alexander then name the  seond son of  the grandchild of he las t  Prince Repnin as the grandson of the passed to the second oldest son of  the Princes Bolkonskya  - which made him a cousin of Leo Tolstoy's mother,    That is prhaps the reason why Tolstoy wrote in War and Peace an interview of he new Prince Repnin an inerview he had withNapoleon.   

In any event Primce Obolenski wa a very ggod wing.     

Dec 19, 2024, 20:34

Rugby Moz. Fucking rugby.

Not this crap!

Dec 19, 2024, 20:42

At 20 Blob this kid scored two tries against the ABs including a try that is  regarded as one of the greatest scored by England. At 24 he was killed in a Hawker Hurricane. I thought it was a poignant rugby related story….I’m sorry you didn’t enjoy it.

Dec 19, 2024, 20:51

He certainly remains the stuff of legends over here. 

A tragic loss at such a young age. 

Dec 19, 2024, 20:52

:ermm::wassat:


Dec 19, 2024, 20:54

"At 20 Blob . . . "


You mean Chippo, right?

Looks like you started on the sauce a bit early today, Moffie.

Dec 19, 2024, 20:57

There is a book written by Hugh Godwin :

The Flying Prince Alexander Obolensky

The Rugby Hero who Died to Young.

You can buy it for 20£ thru Hachette UK or a Downloadable Audio Book for Apple.

Dec 19, 2024, 21:10

Apologies Blob. I know you really want to be Chippo but this was a bit presumptuous of me.

Dec 19, 2024, 21:19

Chip stop being such a twat

Dec 19, 2024, 21:27

I bought that book for an elderly gentleman friend a couple of Christmas’ ago, Mpower. 

Dec 19, 2024, 21:45

Just ordered the book on Amazon…I see it was the Sunday Times Rugby Book of the Year…..thanks M.

Dec 19, 2024, 22:01

Rumour has it that his footman, butler & dresser accompanied him in the sheds.

Dec 19, 2024, 22:07

Of course he did. How could he do all those things himself ?! 

Dec 19, 2024, 22:23

Pleasure Moz hope it’s a good read and let me know how it was …and I am sure the gentleman appreciated it Becs:)

On my Apple E Books it says the Download will be available in January?

Dec 19, 2024, 23:34

He very much enjoyed the book, Mpower. Hopefully you all will too :) 

Dec 20, 2024, 00:00

Thanks I am sure it will be interesting:)

Dec 20, 2024, 00:11

He was an interesting chap. Sadly taken too soon. 

Dec 20, 2024, 05:04

See the flying undergraduate from Oxford University in action. Some impressive offloading from NZ in evidence there.


Dec 20, 2024, 09:42

Not sure if any of you have heard of this guy...but it's pretty jaw-dropping. 

If you're only ever gonna watch one thing that I post, make it this...



Dec 20, 2024, 15:28

Incredible story….thanks I have never heard about this man. I guess because in spite of his efforts he backed the wrong horse. But there’s a movie waiting to be made.

Dec 20, 2024, 16:31

I knew you'd like it Moz.

Amazing how much a man with fire in him can get up to in one lifetime.

Dec 21, 2024, 10:43

Sir Douglas Bader was also a handy rugga player.

"Yes, Douglas Bader played rugby and was a keen sportsman in general: 

School

Bader was a standout rugby player at St Edward's School, where he was known for his aggressive and competitive nature. 

College

Bader represented the Royal Air Force College Cranwell at rugby, as well as other sports like shooting, boxing, athletics, hockey, and cricket. 

Trial game

Bader was invited to play a friendly game with the Harlequins, but it's not clear if he actually played. 

Missed opportunity

Bader might have played rugby at the national level if he hadn't crashed in 1931. 

Bader was a determined man who overcame many challenges, including the loss of both legs in a plane crash in 1931: 

Crash

Bader crashed while performing unauthorized aerobatics at Woodley airfield, near Reading. He lost his right leg that day and his left a few days later. 

Recovery

Bader learned to walk on artificial legs within six months and was determined to fly again. 

Knighthood

Bader was knighted in 1976 for his work in improving the lives of disabled people. 

Legacy

The Douglas Bader Centre was established to provide rehabilitation and recreational opportunities for people with disabilities. 

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Dec 21, 2024, 16:56

Another great story Draad. I assume you have watched the movie of his life, Reach for the Sky. One of the great movies I watch every few years on a rainy day. The big three….Reach for the Sky, Dam Busters and Sink the Bismarck…..hopelessly biased, but fun.

Dec 21, 2024, 20:00

I think you guys would all like a series we have on here…..SAS Rogue Heroes. The second season is just about to start. 

It’s about the inception of the SAS and an enjoyable piece of hokum. Brave and crazy men. 

My Dad had a friend who was in the SAS. A man I always said I’d call on if I was ever in any trouble !! 

Dec 21, 2024, 22:27

Cairo, 1941. David Stirling – an eccentric young officer, hospitalised after a training exercise went wrong – is bored. Convinced that traditional commando units don’t work, he creates a radical plan that flies in the face of all accepted rules of modern warfare. He fights for permission to recruit the toughest, boldest and brightest soldiers for a small undercover unit that will create mayhem behind enemy lines. More rebels than soldiers, Stirling’s team are every bit as complicated, flawed and reckless as they are astonishingly brave and heroic.


Dec 21, 2024, 22:41

That’s the one, Blob :) 

Dec 21, 2024, 22:51

season 2 ................ Jan 1:ermm:

Dec 21, 2024, 23:11

That’s right. 

A crazy start to the New Year ! :D

 
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