Rassie ain't going nowhere #KeepItReal

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Feb 10, 2020, 22:53

To all you biggots who jumped on the bandwagon...

SA Rugby's director of rugby Rassie Erasmus joined Twitter over the weekend and used the social media platform to seemingly pour cold water on reports linking him to the top England job.

Afrikaans newspaper Rapport reported on Sunday that Erasmus had been in talks with the RFU who were believed to be keen on him becoming the next England head coach.

Later in the day, Erasmus posted an inspirational video which was made prior to last year's World Cup final, as well as writing: "Not sure I would know what to say to any other team before a World Cup Final. Not Happening!!!"

There were rumours that the Twitter account was fake, but a spokesperson for SA Rugby confirmed to SA Rugbymag that the account was that of Erasmus.

The RFU on Sunday also denied they were in talks with Erasmus.

"The reports are 100% inaccurate. There has been no meeting. There have been no talks whatsoever about any position at the RFU," RFU CEO Bill Sweeney told Rugby World.

Erasmus masterminded South Africa's 32-12 Rugby World Cup final win over Eddie Jones' England in Yokohama last year.

But he has since taken a back seat from the head coaching duties, with Jacques Nienaber named as the new Springbok head coach.

In his current role, Erasmus still oversees the Springbok management team, which also comprises Deon Davids (forwards coach ) and Daan Human (scrum coach), Mzwandile Stick (backline coach) and Felix Jones (European-based attack consultant).

Erasmus signed a four-year deal (not six as initially reported) with SA Rugby at the end of 2017 and Jones' contract with the RFU expires at the same time as Erasmus' (2021).

Feb 11, 2020, 02:39

Well he did it before when he abandoned the Boks to coach the Stormers. I don’t for one minute believe the non position of Director of  Rugby is his swan song. He will find another gig, even if the. Poms may not be it, for now.

Feb 11, 2020, 05:35

Rassie did what?   He left the squad in 2007 most likely because he could not work with White who would listen to no advice  on rugby issues from anybody.  In the end White was panicking and got Eddie Jones in to save his bacon.   Working with White must have been an ordeal for anybody with real rugby knowledge         

Feb 11, 2020, 06:46

Well fortunately he stayed long enough to learn the rush defense from Jake.

Feb 11, 2020, 11:52

Another piece of utter baloney.    Erasmus is a student of the game and has always been - his intense study of the game has given him a massive insight in the game..   He could learn preciously little from White in anything.

Just look at their subsequent careers in coaching.  White breach his contract with the Brumbies when he did not get the Wallabies coaching job,   He got a job as Sharks Head Coach - where he failed badly and was effectively fired as Head Coach after one year in the job.  Ended up with Montpellier on a two year contract and at the end of the contract it was no renewed,

Erasmus was  involved in the coaching of the Stormers for two years in 2008 and 2009 - when they did very well and then successively became involved as Director of Rugby for the Stormers, SARU, Munster and then SARU again.  In two of those circumstances forced him tot ake over the coaching  and -

*   in 2017 he was the Coach of the Guinness 14 Competition; and

*   in 2019 he became the World Rugby Coach of the year.   

Understand the difference?             

Feb 11, 2020, 11:52


Feb 11, 2020, 12:58

Rassie learnt from Jake in 2007!!!!!

I don’t think so

Feb 11, 2020, 16:56

I agree with David.

Feb 11, 2020, 17:07

So did any of the teams Erasmus played in use the rush defense?   Was the rush defense introduced to the Boks by White? Was it massively successful with an immediate TN win? Is there any evidence of Erasmus coaching the rush defense before 2007? Was Erasmus finally exposed to the rush defense in 2007 before he left the Boks in the lurch?

Case closed.

Feb 11, 2020, 20:04

Given the rush defence employed by Rassie is completely different to the one employed by Jake, I reckon Rassie since being Bok coach has not given Jake a single thought

Tactics employed in 2007 are of little relevance to 2019

Feb 11, 2020, 20:41

Rassies defence is a variant of the Umbrella and rush defence. 

The wings push inwards to close the space down,
instead of outwards to use the touchline as the last defender.

Feb 11, 2020, 20:54

Yep Jake employed a blanket rush, Rassie uses a staggered rush, with an emphasis on Faf disrupting the source

It’s completely different

Feb 11, 2020, 21:41

The fact is that the defense of the Springboks consisted of - 

 *    usage of  Du Toit extensively to deal with the flyhalf and in some cases even the no 12 center - something rarely or near to never used in 2007; 

 *    the usage of the wings described above:, and

 *    the quick recovery system whereby players join the defensive line after  a tackle very quickly and then become part of the defensive line utilizing the rush defense,   

These changes showed a different defending  structure than the one used in 2007.       

Feb 11, 2020, 22:31

Meneer Nienaber .

Feb 12, 2020, 01:20

The structure and shape of the game has changed, you cannot compare the two eras. Post 2007, due to the ELVs the game started employing more structures from league. They were afforded the opportunity due to the added space, but it was also a necessity as defences had more time to read what was in front of them. So now we have different units with connectors (traditional backline structure doesn't exist on attack). Thus, defences have to account for these added layers. The shape of the game is entirely different. Back before the ELVs, angles of running were important as runners hit the line more quickly, short distance passing was more demanding and more integral to enterprising attacking rugby. What we have seen from 2015 onwards is a more uniform approach to the game at all levels, in both hemispheres. Everyone uses the same shapes, with only a few exceptions - England in 2018's series in SA saw some more unique ideas emerge. This is where I feel NZ lost their edge, they were more organised, but teams are now coaching these structures, and the defensive nous to break them down. So, the margin of superiority they used to possess in execution is not felt so strongly, in many respects it isn't even present in the newer generations. Back to Jake and Rassie's eras? It's nothing like Dame Freifrau has described, once again...

The blindside flank is only now being used to tackle a 10? From which scenarios? Do you even know? What was the structure of the defence in each instance? The Boks don't rush all the time. They use different systems depending on the situation. It's very common for posters to state things like they are inserting a quote from a coaching site without properly assessing video. Steph's greatest role on defence is rushing out of the line during phase play (breakdown defence makes up the bulk of all defensive situations). This is unfortunate, because he misses as many as he makes. As I showed in several videos, a large glut of these defensive interactions aren't accounted for in stats. He averages two flawless tests a season, from a defensive standpoint. 

The usage of the wings? So, having wings run up and get caught in no man's lands is a revolutionary addition to rugby? :D. It's a new idea, having a wing rush up? I almost thought I remember Paulse doing the same thing. You do make one laugh. There really isn't anything revolutionary about the Bok defence. In fact, they exhibited structure issues right up until the final, so it wasn't even water-tight. It's all about physical superiority, and whenever they met parity, they looked like lumbering neanderthals without a plan, i.e., Wales and New Zealand. Main form of generating attack? The shallow kick and give-it-to-Kolbe.  

Quick recovery system? You mean "Get back to your feet quickly"... erm... system? That's schoolboy stuff, very basic. Rejoin the line. The basic principles of rejoining and where you line up hasn't changed. 

You are straining desperately to weave another fanciful tall tale. Nothing more. 

Feb 12, 2020, 01:39

The idiot is back

Feb 12, 2020, 02:12

The wings and Fourie at13 in particular put lateral pressure on from the outside. Same as Am in the WC. It’s fundamentally the Jake defense.

As for a  flank rushing 10 for the first time....check out the Boks vs Oz in Durban 2000. Anybody remember this incident:

’Braam van Straaten landed six penalties to hand the home side a slender two point lead in the closing stages after Matt Cockbain had been sin-binned for punching Rassie Erasmus less than a minute after his introduction as a replacement.’

Yep Cockbain punched out Erasmus to try and stop his rushes onto Larkham which totally unsettled him. The coach that day was Nick Mallett.....the rush by a flanker onto 10 is old stuff. Haydn Morgan did it for Wales in the sixties!

Feb 12, 2020, 02:37

Blitz defence is a defensive technique used in rugby union. It was brought to prominence by Shaun Edwards, the head coach of London Wasps. The Blitz defence relies on the whole defensive line moving forward towards their markedman as one as soon as the ball leaves the base of a ruck or maul. The charge is usually led by the inside centre.

The idea of this technique is to prevent the attacking team gaining any ground by tackling them behind the gain line and forcing interceptions and charged-down kicks. However, the defending team can be vulnerable to chip kicks and any player breaking the defensive line will have lots of space to play because the defence is running the other way and must stop, turn and chase. In many ways, the blitz is similar to the defence used in rugby league which can be explained by Edwards's background in that code.

It has, however, paid dividends for London Wasps with the team winning the Heineken Cup in 2003-04 and 2006–07, the Premiership title in 2003, 2004, 2005 and 2008 and the Anglo-Welsh Cup in 2006. 

Not only this, but this style of defence played a significant role in the 2008 Six Nations Grand Slam for the Welsh national team, who conceded only two tries over five games.

The term blitz defence is derived from a defensive play in American Football, where the defence players (usually Linebackers) pile forward against the offensive line en masse in the hope of tackling the Quarterback while he is still in possession of the ball.

Feb 12, 2020, 05:55

Blitz in football is quite different....linebackers come through gaps in the offensive line rather than engaging it. They don’t try to bottle up the attack, they focus on one player.....the quarterback. The rest of the defensive backfield covers the receivers to avoid giving the quarterback a quick release.

Feb 12, 2020, 10:27

We have not had entertainment for a long time and now we have the pleasure of seeing another idiot - who thoroughly  disgraced himself in everything he wrote before - being back.  He is totally disorientated as per normal and his views are as absurd as they were before,   Anyway - he fled from site for the same reasons as he did in the past and then returned - this time without  bothering to find a new user name, which would have been exposed immediately anyway.       

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