Roos' try today...

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Jun 01, 2024, 17:24

Guy showing why he should be wearing the Bok jersey with that score today.

One question for the board...

Did that look like a 12's try?

Gets the ball from JL, hands off two players with very little space, accelerates away and dots it down.

I'm still waiting for the gaggle to respond with something more than "he is 8 so he is 8".

...just tell me what DDA can do that this kid can't do better.

Jun 01, 2024, 17:59

It seems that Roos has found his rhythm….he is performing well….he can most probably do everything better than DDA, but wait till Dave sees this….he will blow a O Ring : )

Jun 01, 2024, 18:22

It's fine, he's used to replacing gaskets and o-rings already. Man blows about 5 daily.

Jun 01, 2024, 18:53

: ) Today he impressed at 6 and it might be that Dobbo was asked to play him there? I think maybe we will see him at 6 and Cameron at 8 against Wales….Cameron has also been impressing with his play of the back of the scrum.

Jun 01, 2024, 23:44

Spectacular try….it reminded me of Bobby Skinstad against Ireland in 98, when he picked up the ball from a scrum on halfway and beat all the Irish backs for pace.

Jun 02, 2024, 07:22

Indeed, Moz. He's a real athlete and I love his aggression. Seems to have those berserker genes.

And I still can't help but think he'd be dominant 12. So easily controls the collision that he could put players in space almost at will.

I can't see any other 12s in WR getting the better of him. I mean, haha imaging him squaring off with DDA...comical stuff.

Jun 02, 2024, 07:24

M, when I said I'd like Wiese at 8 and Roos on the side of the scrum, the usual gaggle lost their minds.

I believe Far Lip melted an o-ring that day too

Jun 02, 2024, 07:54

Roos continues to impress me. He was making a ton of big dominant tackles today as well as clearing the ruck. The guys is pure class and it only adds to his stock that he can cover all 3 back positions. He reminds me a bit Ardie Savea today. 

Then we have Elrich Louw putting in another huge shift and Cameron Hanekom. Unfortunately these boys are too white and only one will make it. 

We do have Ethan Hooker who I believe should be our next bok 12. Imagine him and Moodie in the Midfield together. 

Did you see Hooker run down Arendse. The guy has a high work rate and always tracks back and makes his tackles. 

We could have a pretty decent backline with these youngsters as well as a lethal back row.

Imagine a spine of the following players

15. Willemse 

14. Arendse

13. Moodie

12. Hooker

11. Fassi

10. Libbok / Pollard 

9. Williams

8. Hannekom 

7. Louw

6. Roos

5. PSTD / RG

4. Etzebeth / Rhal

3. Ox / Du Toit / Wilco Louw

2. Marx / Grobbler 

1. Mchunu / Steenkamp

Jun 02, 2024, 07:57


Roos has never played in the 12 position and is a career loosie.   He himelf would refuse to play at 12 and not theorizing as playing  him at 12  is just about thinking the moon is made of Green cheese.   I do not believe to play forwards outside the position they have specialized in - especially fowards taking  up backline play or backline players as forwards.

I can think of two cases where it flopped badly and that was to move Spies from wing  to number 8 and for the White effort to move Esterhuizen from 12 tried at 7 in 2014.   It jsut failed badly and in the end was the end of players international careers.    Etserhuizen was movin g back to 12 after the White effort - but he became nothing  bar a fringe or even third choice player at 12 when it came to Springbok  selection,          

Jun 02, 2024, 07:57


Jun 02, 2024, 08:15

Listen to this ignorant twit shrieking for attention!

"Roos scored a try that a #12 might have scored so I must be right about playing him as a back rather than a forward!"

What does this rugby noob think, that all loose forwards must be lumbering donkeys and any one of them who shows a bit of pace must be shifted straight into the backline?

I reckon even Baboon-ou knows more about rugby than ButtPlug!


Jun 02, 2024, 12:26

...and I reckon you should go eat a dick.

Jun 02, 2024, 17:04

We played a lock at flank all these years. He could only do one thing….process tackle. But that apparently is a success. Maybe Dud Allende should have been a flank ….at one stage before Eluckmiss got hold of him he was fetching and offloading quite well.

One thing’s for sure. If Roos plays Bok flank he will be a way better ball carrier than Dud Toit.

Jun 03, 2024, 12:51

Fucking idiot still banging on about Roos playing 12

The only thing Roos proved on the weekend is that he is the obvious choice as the new Bok 8

He is twice the player Wiese is

Oh and by the way we do have de Allende, Esterhuizen, JVR, Serfontein, Willemse, David Kriel, Ethan Hooker, Rickus Pretorious, Dan du Plessis, Jordan Hendrikse and Sacha as options at 12 but no fuck that let’s move Roos to 12 because boy oh boy we are so desperate for options at 12.

But on a serious note I think we should move Ox to 9

Jun 03, 2024, 13:47

I don't recall saying that he HAS TO play at 12.

I said I'd like to see him there and think he would do well.

But your little peanut is far too underdeveloped to entertain an idea you don't agree with for the sake of speculation.

It's call being unintelligent.

Jun 03, 2024, 15:55

Well he could replace either of the Duds. I have no doubt he would be better at 12 than Dud Allende. But as a blindsider he would be way better than Dud  Toit… good a tackler, much better offloader, much better at turnovers and a way, way better runner.

I agree with Corn he is our Savea…but could he be our Bundi. It certainly would be interesting to see him at 12 for game or two,

Jun 03, 2024, 16:04

Moffie still trying very hard to discredit the finest Springbok of his generation, the RWC player of the tournamant in 2019 and the player of the final in 2023.

There's stupid, then there's ou Maaik and then there's Moffie!


Jun 03, 2024, 16:21

Yeah Rooi my son said Chasing the Sun 2 reminded him just how awesome PSDT is. He concluded that PSDT was the best forward in the game right now.

It’s one thing making 23 tackles in a WC final but it’s another when 5 of them were bone crushing. You see the odd bone crusher in a season let alone by one player in one match

I think good old Moz does not begin to understand the role of a blindside flanker - he seems to think they should be making turnovers and putting in some attacking runs.

Helloooooo last I checked a blindside operated effectively as an athletic lock being physical and adding plenty of grunt to the engine room.

Has there been a better Bok blindside - I somehow doubt it

Jun 03, 2024, 16:27

There hasn't been a better or more effective blindside flanker in the game since Andre Venter but because this pathetically biased, egotistical rugby noob once slated PSdT and isn't man enough or doesn't have the character to admit he got it wrong, we're subjected to this childish drivel on a daily basis. 

Enough! Pieter Steph will go down in history as one of the all time great Springboks and to see this weak-arsed old loser denigrating him to the applause of his even more pathetic little Servile Gimps is nothing short of sickening.

Jun 03, 2024, 16:41

Can’t beat tackles, can’t offload, cant fetch, not good enough in lineouts to challenge for #5 his natural position. Mostert made similar  tackles per minute in the final as Dud….but from the lock position and unlike Dud who missed 3, he missed none.

It’s not rocket science if your assignment is first tackler at every breakdown you make a lot of tackles.

Jun 03, 2024, 16:46

But I do apologize that I upset you so much that you are sick (SIC).

Jun 03, 2024, 16:46

More childish, biased and laughably ignorant rubbish from the decrepit old egg-faced rugby noob as he continues his hate campaign against a Springbok rugby legend.

I suspect the reason this sad and pathetic loser can't celebrate the Springbok victory is because of the huge contribution Pieter-Steph made to our fantastic and record-breaking RWC victory . . . and not for the first time either! Player of the Tournamant in 2019 as well!

Jun 03, 2024, 16:56

As you did every time with Schalk. It’s not a question of hate, it’s a question of rate…..he’s a lock playing flank and only contributes in defensive stands, which we rely on far too often.

Jun 03, 2024, 16:58

Did Mostert play in the final?

Comparing Mostert’s final to that of PSDT is insulting

For the record Mostert missed a tackle

Can’t beat tackles = rugby ignorance

Can’t fetch = rugby ignorance

Can’t offload = rugby ignorance

Not good enough in line outs = a lie

Jun 03, 2024, 17:00

A barefaced lie by a stinking liar.

I have said on many occasions that the pre-injury Schalk Burger was the world's best player when your team doesn't have the ball. I never hated him the way you hate PSdT and I gave him plenty of credit for his abilities.

So try again you low-life, deceitful, egg-faced old rugby noob!

Jun 03, 2024, 20:11

Skulk? Remember all those posts you made. Oh yes you often said he was great, which is why you wanted him dropped for Watson.

The liar and the fool who can’t think for himself is you. 

And by the way, I live the high life….the one living the low life is you.

Jun 03, 2024, 20:17

Mostert missed no tackles…Dud missed 3. And he is hopeless as a runner, hopeless as a fetcher, did you ever see him used lately on kickoff receptions.

A tackler plain and simple …nothing more. And it’s not even a novel role. Mallett assigned that exact role of charging the inside backs to Eluckmiss in 2000. It actually worked until Matt Cockbain smacked him and got a card for his troubles. But after that Erasmus was nowhere to be seen.

You poor two twerps have no analytical capacity, no rugby memory, can’t link cause and effect. You can just stand on your groupie legs a bray like donkeys.  Poor old (sic) was so afraid of not being accepted….he totally reversed himself based on a one point victory over a 14 man team.

No integrity….just a mouth

Jun 03, 2024, 20:42

Bullshit we all acknowledged that Mostert missed a tackle in the final and that’s a fact just like he did in the 2019 final - emphasising how piss poor ESPN stats actually are

Fuck me Moz wake up - he is not there to fetch that is the job of the shorter guys - do you see Eben or RG fetching

Hopeless as a runner - that’s just a plain lie what utter shit. He is one of the primary go to players taking it up in traffic - he is great at that, it’s one of his strengths - just as effective as Eben in that department

Does Eben, Mostert, RG or Lood receive kick offs? No they don’t - I wonder why that is

Geez Moz I sometimes wonder how much of this game you actually know

I mean come on - a 2m tall blindside fetching - seriously?

Jun 03, 2024, 21:09

2m tall running in traffic….seriously. 

5 runs 0 tackles beaten against NZ

8 runs 2 defenders beaten against England

7 runs 0 tackles beaten against France

6 runs 0 tackles beaten against Ireland.

7 runs 0 tackles beaten against Scotland.

That’s 5  matches, in 4  of which he never beat a tackle….that’s 33 times he had the ball and 31ntimes he was brought down by the first tackler. Great at taking a ball up in traffic …you are kidding me.

And a great tackler every game?

Scotland 7 tackles made/3 missed

Ireland 13 made/1 missed

France 9 tackles made/5 missed

England 9 tackles made/0 missed

New Zealand 28 made/3 missed.

So we see his high tackle rate was only in the final. In the aggregate  he was 66 tackles made/ 12 missed. But here’s  the killer 33 runs …..2 tackles beaten. The great tackler’s success rate is far lower than the success of the oppo tackler’s tackling him. If he had  78 runs, equal to his number of tackle attempts….he would have beaten 5 tackles. But when he was the tackler 78 times he missed 12 tackles.

So Dud  played a role in a specific plan in both WC finals. But his running and tackling for WC2023 as a whole was mediocre at best…..and certainly oppo runners got more out of him than he got out of them.

Case closed…now you are schooled, apologies aren’t necessary 

He can’t run, he can’t fetch, he can’t offload…he can process tackle and he’s a media darling.

Jun 03, 2024, 21:20

Oh for fuck sake you don’t beat defenders running into them now do you?

Geez Moz seriously. It’s not his job to run around beating defenders, fuck me. He is there to take it up in traffic. To take contact and set up the next phase

It’s NOT the role of a fucking blindside to fetch, no matter how many times you say it, that fact is not going to change

Do you know the difference between a 6 and a 7

Judging by your takes here I’d say no

If you were talking about fetching then I’d say me are talking about a 6, possibly an 8 and 1,2 and 3 - all because they are shorter and better equipped to effect turnovers - helloooo

Talking about defenders beaten then I say any back and potentially an 8 like Roos, Hanekom, Emmanuel Tsituka, Ardie etc or a 6 like Kwagga or Kolisi

Moz get a grip with the role of a 7

Jun 03, 2024, 21:43

Of course great forward ball carriers beat defenders….they also offload. So they become an attacking threat. Dud is no threat with the ball.

And your argument about fetching is also nonsense. All players fetch these days…in Dud Toit’s defensive role he is often over the tackled player. His in ability to fetch even when it’s served up to him on a platter makes him a liability….costing the team many meters.

Making the height excuse for him is nonsense. In his role which rarely includes lineouts his height is no positive. If he is too tall to carry out the role of a blindsider….find someone who can.

The tackling record is a result of the Boks having to make a record number of tackles. It’s a bad thing not a good thing.

Jun 03, 2024, 22:13

No Bok offloads it’s not the plan - which blindside is renowned for beating defenders? Zero

So if Eben, Lood, Mostert or RG do not effect turnovers why do you think PSDT should?

Bullshit he takes plenty of line out ball

We need a new blindside when he is by far the best in the game - good one Moz

Player of the year as a blindside and you think he is not good enough - joke is on you big time

Jun 03, 2024, 22:56

Same old appeals to authority ignoring the numbers which say he was average at best.

Jun 03, 2024, 22:59

Rubbish the numbers say nothing of the sort

You don’t gain metres or beat defenders when you spend most of the time running into contact - the primary role of a Bok blindside

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