The great disappointments of 2019

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Dec 18, 2019, 10:53

There are various site members with a  varying degree  of  disappointments suffered this year according to their postings on site an I will try and deal with same according to different codes of sport and also Beeno's Trumpet.

Cricket

I do not think there was any member on site that did not criticize SA Cricket for the farce they turned cricket to - but here were obvious differences in what board members think about what caused the problems and why things went askew,   The general feeling was that the cause of the problem remains the Board - that being the reason for the departure of Standard Bank as their main sponsor.

Based on the media storm the Board exonerated themselves from any responsibility for the mess and the CEO was effectively fired and total blame for the debacle at the door of that individual,  As a sob to ease public criticism the Board then appointed a new CEO in a temporary basis, a new Acting Director of Cricket (Graeme Smith) and a new Head Coach (Mark Boucher),   

Will it work out and the situation improve in 2020?   The answer is an emphatic NO.   Boucher refers to the change Erasmus brought to rugby, and hope for similar improvement iro cricket,    It just will not happen,   The incompetent SARU Board gave  Erasmus a large degree of freedom to decide on issues and it worked - the SAC Board gave nothing of the kind to  Smith and Boucher.  They will not have a similar level of decision-making -  for instance  the selection committee - of which they are not members - select the squad and then expected from Smith and Boucher to make something positive out of the squad.  That to start with is putting the cart before the horses.  

The other talking point was normal on site - what is to be done to correct the situation is not the issue - what is  the constant vilification of some players and the pining about the experienced players who left the scene.   De Villiers left because of an open secret - he would not take kindly to the actions of SAC and to get him back to play test cricket will be very difficult.   When he made an offer to come back to play in the WC - some members were opposed to the idea but most would have liked to see him in the squad.   The other player under discussion was Amla.   Some members saw deficiencies in his performance over the last 18 months or so - during which period his  ranking as a player slipped form the top 3 to below the no 10 ranking.   Amla decided to call it a day - but that did not stop some pining for his return by at least one member,

Beeno's Trumpet

This became an unholy mess on site to say the least. There were basically two issues discussed - namely religion and politics with at times a mix of the two issues,   I think that the religious issue should not be dealt with on site - it is wrong for people to use a divisive issue on the basis it is dealt with on site,   Personally I believe that religion is what is within  individual people and how they consequently react to it in the social environment we live in.   I hope that in future discussions on this nature relates to religion is in fact discouraged and limited to issues when it affects for instance Rugby - like happened in the Folau case. 

Insofar as politics are concerned - there are in fact extremes in viewpoints on site,   There are -

*   the SA scenario;

*   the issue of globalism as against a more nationalist point of view; and 

*   the USA scenario centering on President Trump

Insofar as the SA issue is concerned there is not a single member who defends the insane Government  scenario - from electricity blackouts to the disastrous  economic performance.   Massive incompetence and looting under Zuma was not discontinued under Ramaphosa - it still is clear as daylight.   There are some extreme  views on that score and some more practical ones.   When it comes to sport there is some agreement on the issue of quotas in sport - but then the interpretation as to quota selections are the real issue - some identify players as quota selections irrespective of how they perform and that to my mind is illogical  - performance should be the  norm and should not be based on race.

Then we have the globalist issue.   There are basically a trend to deal with the issue on the economic part of the problem and ignore the real problems.   There is the fact that people in favour of the EU are what is becoming clear in many countries.   The globalist issue is multi-faceted - but basically ignore the situation affecting the ordinary workers and people in countries.   In the end there are the fears of some members that the end result would be a globalist socialist dictatorship emerging from for instance the EU and UN scenario - while other seems to fear the rise of nationalism in countries,   Both are seriously problematic nut since the media seems in general advocating the socialist approach there are efforts to brainwash people to believe an ideal that seems to be unachievable.  

Then there is the Trump issue.   Fact is a lot of members dislike Trump - but recognize his achievements as President, while others hate him and try constantly to belittle him basing their arguments on leftist media attacks,   There seems to be no middle ground in discussions.   Trump is accused of things nobody can prove - all based on what is in the USA media,    What is clear that the corruption under the presidents since 1992 is not dealt with logically -  all that is done is to go for discrediting of Trump.   There is no real solution to this issue.   

Rugby

So at last we get to the major discussion topic on site,   Here there were two issues discussed - namely the issue of coaching and then team selection and performances.   However, the main topics were the winning by SA of the RC and WC by SA,   It was obviously a disappointment for our NZ members - but they were gracious on the part of their congratulations.   The same cannot be said of some of the part of SA members - they barely congratulated the Springboks and then went on the attack based on their own conception as to what happened,   ,

The Erasmus Issue

From the date of his appointment some members went on the offensive against him and started off criticizing him for what they perceived as him letting the teams he coached down and then the idea that he is not a good enough coach anyway.   The attacks started off with the actual position to which Erasmus was appointed - namely as the Director of Rugby and not the Head Coach,

At the end of 2018 the attacks on Erasmus went into overdrive by some members,   The said members claimed he had no real game plan and his team selection was  defective,   As the year went on the stance continued and even worsened.   The winning of the RC brought along a flood of disinformation trying to prove that the team losing all RC matches in 2015 with a negative point count of 23 performed better than the 2019 team that lost no matches in 2019 with a positive point difference of 51,   Erasmus was considered by at least three members as incompetent compared to Meyer.     

That was followed by the WC and some continued attacks on the game plan of the Springboks.   Wild and unsubstantiated nonsense became the norm.   After the semi against Wales Erasmus was criticized endlessly by one member and after the final the sane member made wild claims about why the game plan differed from what it was against Wales and a "media storm" was invented as a reason for the change,   

However, after the WC  the next form of attack on Erasmus took on a new angle.   Now according to one member he did not deserve his selection as World Coach of 2019 - but the angle now reverted to his appointment as Director of Rugby and the filling of the vacant Head Coach position,   The issue became more twisted into the last month,   There was an  outcry against Erasmus not being the Head Coach and consequently Erasmus tried to calm fears on the issue by stating that he would snot quit the scene completely - so the next attack was that he is going to be the "puppet master".   

As to the appointment to the Head Coach position - the same members who criticized Erasmus in the past went on the rampage,    The fact that Erasmus will identify the person to be appointed as the coach was rubbished and when Nienaber was mentioned he was given the sole credit for the WC win and Erasmus role was totally ignored.   The real attacks on Erasmus remained clearly evident from the negating of that award and said Erasmus should not have been rewarded in that way,         

Team Selection

 It is to be expected that there would be differences as to who should be in the WC squad - bi there were specifically vicious attacks on  Du Toit, De Allende and De Jager,    There have been no changes in the approach of at least three of our members - who claimed the three mentioned players should not have been in the squad.   During the matches played the three was always under attack even for imagined shortcomings.   

The fact that Du Toit was selected by 8 ex-test players was the basis for another campaign against Du Toit, who according to them was worthless and  based on hype. 

The fact that De Allende played a key role in the Springbok backline during the WC campaign was another disappointment for at least three  site members.

So where are we now - we can now accept that amongst a small number of members we have the three main Erasmus haters and the same three make up the Du Toit, De Allende and De Jager haters on site.   That has been ongoing for years.

The great rugby disappointments for 2019 are the three members who are continuing on Erasmus and the three players mentioned above,                                                                   

                                 


                                   

Dec 18, 2019, 13:25

Why are cricket and Beeno Trumpet issues being mentioned in the Rugby section? 

Dec 18, 2019, 13:54

SB

Sorry I was dealing with the Board as a whole and not only rugby issues,

Dec 18, 2019, 14:10

Mike you forgot to mention the outstanding performance of Beeno. 

The Esteemed Beeno was correct about Rassie, Du Toit, Allende and Malherbe. 

Politically the highly Esteemed Beeno was correct about Trump, his momentous achievements, Spygate etc. The Trump haters were demolished at every turn. 

Beeno was proven correct about the battle between Globalism and Nationalism/Populism.

Beeno owned the oaks on creation proving the existence of God comprehensively. 

Beeno shamed the resident pervs and proved the LGBT agenda to prey on Children. 

Everyone will surely acknowledge Beeno got it right again and again. 

Congrats to all who agreed with Beeno and got it right. 

Rooitwit ended the year looking like a bigger buffoon than ever closely followed by sharktwit, crusadertwit and poor Brycy. 

DA Perv escapes the list of complete morons as on international politics he gets it. That Irish nutjob Stav didn't have a clue. 

Saffex perv became more unhinged as the year progressed and dense Denise was a mixed bag as always part common sense but mostly BS. 

Bobbie fell apart and crossed over to the dark side. 

Fortunately there were good posts by Beeno of course but also by Dr Moz, Mike, Draad, Plum, AJ, Windpomp, Organhuffer Seb and some others which helped the Board retain a semblance of normality. 

After being crunched by England the kbbs went strangely quiet as the wind had been clearly removed from their shredded sails. JW went on vacation only poping on occasionally. 

Can the board buffoons lift their game next year? I doubt it as they lack capacity, intelligence and political, spiritual and rugby acumen. 

I fear even greater demands will be placed on Beeno and other straight thinking posters to set these loons straight. 

Seems as things stand now the Trump haters and Globalist serfs are in for a miserable 2020. We shall see. 


Dec 18, 2019, 14:12

Why is an extreme dumbass like sharktwit still posting here. 


Dec 18, 2019, 15:13

See Clevermike what you had done... You have given Beeno a license to post his nonsense in the rugby section. 

Dec 18, 2019, 15:27

Sorry SB

Thus was not what was intended,   If Beeno gets over the hill in self-\praise it is just showing immaturity.   It was just a review of where people had gone this year and what I beleiee should be avoided in future,

Dec 18, 2019, 22:06

Most of the posters from other countries leave because of backward Beeno. The whole reason the Beeno section was created was to contain him, now you have let him loose on the board.  In a first-world country Beeno would be put in jail. He is worse than a Muslim Nazi

Dec 18, 2019, 22:10

Beenkop have you found Jesus yet?

Dec 18, 2019, 22:19

Most of the international posters from other countries leave because of backward Beeno.


BS, half of them are here to bash him. Stop complaining like a little girl.

Dec 18, 2019, 23:27

This Board wouldn't be a quarter as interesting if not for HasBeen. The whole Trumpet wouldn't exist and it's always a fun read. You guys need to relax....a world without different opinions would be very dull indeed!

Dec 18, 2019, 23:28

This Board wouldn't be a quarter as interesting if not for HasBeen. The whole Trumpet wouldn't exist and it's always a fun read. You guys need to relax....a world without different opinions would be very dull indeed!

Dec 19, 2019, 00:01

Calling anyone who disagrees with him a paedophile or a faggot is not a different opinion, neither is hiding these insults behind the name of religion. Keep it to his section, don't fill the rugby section with this. 

Folau may be a decent person, but it is people with "religious" attitudes like Beeno that ensured his rugby career was terminated. No one knows if Folau is a sane religious person with inherited beliefs or just a Nazi. Many religious Christians and Muslims are fine but imagine having Beeno in your national rugby team and he was all over Twitter...

There is a section that covers random areas like religion and politics. While there is occasional overflow on to this section, this is first and foremost a rugby area. I do expect the forum would have grown more without the rugby section covered in this. 

Dec 19, 2019, 00:35

Moz I have no time for bible bashing bigots I’m afraid.

I’m pretty tolerant but draw the line at the above

Beenkop is the type of bloke who merits a snot klap and little else

Dec 19, 2019, 01:21

"Calling anyone who disagrees with him a pedophile or a faggot is not a different opinion, neither is hiding these insults behind the name of religion. Keep it to his section, don't fill the rugby section with this."

Well said.

Dec 19, 2019, 01:26

Mike, Sharkbok is right, every time someone posts politics and religion in the Rugby Section the Jihadi takes full advantage and launches his diatribe.

Dec 19, 2019, 01:35

For heaven sake, why does anybody take an 80 year old egotist who told us he jerks off with a machine seriously. Much of what HasBeen does is tongue in cheek. By contrast everything Wanker says  is self  promoting, pompous and dishonest. Nobody lies as much as this despicable old fruit.


On another string this fake said the reason he joined the ANC was to be more effective to help others. Now that's offensive.

Dec 19, 2019, 01:38

"On another string this fake said the reason he joined the ANC..."

Which party would  have been your alternative?

Dec 19, 2019, 01:57

You miss the point. If he wanted to join the ANC that's his business. But pretending he did that as a charitable endeavor is offensive hypocrisy.


As for who I would join, it certainly wouldn't be a party that turns a blind eye to corruption except when they are involved, in which case  they promote corruption.  And failing a good choice, I'm happy supporting nobody.

Dec 19, 2019, 02:16

Actually no, I don't miss the point, the point being made is that he did something horrendous and so because this happened in the past long before corruption took hold of the ANC, I'm asking which party you would have joined at the time. 

Dec 19, 2019, 02:37

I concur the self-confession of Clevermike saying he bought a wanking machine is, without doubt, the disappointment of the year... 
Didn't he say that he used it three times the day it arrived in the post? I vomited all over my computer screen, and any reminder of this makes me feel nauseous to this day...


Dec 19, 2019, 02:46

What - a wanking machine WTF?

Dec 19, 2019, 02:49

I wouldn't have 'joined a party' Denny.....none of them represented my views. As for ANC corruption, my guess is this started right at the outset and extended to every level of government. 

Dec 19, 2019, 02:51

Yep....he apparently came twice using a machine, he proudly told us. It's kind of funny, except then he turned it into a sort of octogenarian accomplishment.

Dec 19, 2019, 02:59

It's news to me, to be honest I don't read a lot of  Mike posts, either in Beeno's Trumpet or in the rugby section, I mostly follow him in the cricket section. The posts in the cricket section are mostly short posts which is to my taste. But I agree, if what is being said of him is true then he's a very sick puppy.

Dec 19, 2019, 03:32

Time to drop CleverMike off at the local vet...

Dec 20, 2019, 17:51

It is time to tell a habitual liar about things that happen in rugby  top get his head read,    He is a liar, a cheat and constantly brag about what he has achieved - but whether that can also be questioned,  Still waiting for one rugby related incident that he does not distort,

The man is a total arsehole devoid of any human feeling and I think if somebody deserves to be dropped  off at an asylum it is him.   

A total fool with nothing new entering his stilted mind and all he cares for insofar as rugby is concerned is to praise the past players and attack the present players,   So stilted the mind of the idiot is that he does  not regard some of the best SA  players as worthy to play to the Springboks. Nothing new ever entered his cobwebbed mind.      

Dec 20, 2019, 17:51

It is time to tell a habitual liar about things that happen in rugby  top get his head read,    He is a liar, a cheat and constantly brag about what he has achieved - but whether that can also be questioned,  Still waiting for one rugby related incident that he does not distort,

The man is a total arsehole devoid of any human feeling and I think if somebody deserves to be dropped  off at an asylum it is him.   

A total fool with nothing new entering his stilted mind and all he cares for insofar as rugby is concerned is to praise the past players and attack the present players,   So stilted the mind of the idiot is that he does  not regard some of the best SA  players as worthy to play to the Springboks. Nothing new ever entered his cobwebbed mind.      

Dec 20, 2019, 21:51

Clevermike before the mechanical and digital era.,,



Dec 20, 2019, 23:14

Hahaha....Wanker the Rod Laver of maturbators.

Dec 21, 2019, 17:30

Hahaha - the total idiot when it comes to rugby,

 
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