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Oct 04, 2019, 19:58

SharkBok's MatchAlysis

Willie le Roux: 6.5

Got better as the game progressed. Started to play as second receiver which improved the attack from an out of sorts Pollard. One hopeless chip kick that went straight out. However, he did make a good up and under that Mapimpi scored from with ease. 


Cheslin Kolbe: 10

2 Tries, and looked dangerous at every chance. Made lots of tackles. Took a high ball that was exceptional. Still, questions if he should be playing at 15 to make the Boks more reliable under the high ball, with more counter-attacking opportunities from the back. Could get his hands on the ball more than just limited chances from the wing.

Lukhanyo Am: 6.5

All-round game. Solid. He is physical, reasonably fast, and has a decent pass. 

Damian de Allende: 6.5

His form is getting better as the tournament progresses. Always strong, but adding some more finesse with deft offloads.


Makazole Mapimpi: 7

Best test match to date. He looked comfortable on attack and defence. His involvement off the ball was much higher than usual 

Handre Pollard: 5

A comical drop near his own try line was very concerning. A better team would have converted that mistake into a try. Also seemed to get better as the match progressed. Pole kicking was a bit awry. His kick pass worked once with Kolbe scoring from this

Faf de Klerk: 5

Started well, but faded later in the game. Something is going wrong between him and Pollard. Both involved in an error-prone attack

Duane Vermeulen: 8

Still one of the best fetchers in world rugby. High work rate. His impact on the game infuriated the Italians to throw him on his head, which all but finished the game as any form of a contest. Italy was lucky to not have 2 players sent from the field. 

Pieter-Steph du Toit: 7

Was good, and shows he has the mobility and fitness to play as a test number 7. Buggered up a certain try. 

Siya Kolisi: 3

Was he on the pitch? I think he gave away a penalty.

Lood de Jager: 9

One of his best tests. He looked like a matured test player. Very good on his own ball at the lineout, and also put lots of pressure on opposition ball at the lineouts. Strong carries. Solid tackles. Brought a physical edge to the Boks. The driving maul was excellent for the Boks today, easily the best part of the game. Is Mostert toast? 

Eben Etzebeth: 6

Involved in the tight exchanges, otherwise average. 

Flab Malherbe: 6

Good scrummaging, without the trademark bellyflops

Bongi Mbonambi: 8.5

Very physical hitting rucks, and as a defender. Good as the mole at the back of the driving maul. (Marx also got a try in the same way, but he does not appear as comfortable in this burrowing role as Mbonombi). 

Tendai Mtawarira: 7

Better scrummager than ginger-ninja. A better starter to a test. 


Oct 04, 2019, 20:02

Bullshit that Beast is a better scrummager than Kitshoff

Oct 04, 2019, 20:30

Rugby 365 ratings

15 WILLIE LE ROUX

He had a couple of try assists, but he is still not the Willie le Roux we know with a few errors and poor decisions plaguing his game.

5/10

14 CHESLIN KOLBE

The best wing in the world at the moment. He scored two tries, tackled like a man possessed and he was effective in the air once again. 9/10

13 LUKHANYO AM

He had his moments out wide and he put in some big hits on defence.

6/10

12 DAMIEN DE ALLENDE

It was one of his best games in a Bok jersey. He got his team over the advantage line and his ability to offload in contact was impressive as well.

7/10

11 MAKAZOLE MAPIMPI

His defence out wide was excellent and he had few good runs as well. 6/10

10 HANDRE POLLARD

It was a poor performance from the pivot. His attacking game is seriously lacking and a few of his kicks were aimless. 4/10

9 FAF DE KLERK

The ball to the Springbok backline was slow on several occasions. He was a bit predictable in this game.

5/10

8 DUANE VERMEULEN

The big man was powerful in open play with ball in hand and on defence.

7/10

7 PIETER-STEPH DU TOIT

It was a bit of mixed bag from the No.7, but he worked tirelessly around the park.

6/10

6 SIYAMTHANDA KOLISI (CAPTAIN)

He made his presence felt on defence on a few occasions, but he went missing for large periods again.

5/10

5 LODEWYK DE JAGER

He gave a good account of himself with ball in hand and in the set-pieces. 7/10

4 EBEN ETZEBETH

He was on top of his game defensively where he held up Italian players with his sheer strength. He did what was asked of him in the line-outs as well.

7/10

3 FRANS MALHERBE

Solid in the scrums before it became uncontested, but his work rate in other areas of the game is lacking. 4/10

2 MBONGENI MBONAMBI

Excellent in the set-pieces and the mauls. He was aggressive with ball in hand. 8/10

1 TENDAI MTAWARIRA

Dominated his opponent at scrum time early on he caused a few headaches with some bone-crunching tackles in open play. 6/10

Replacements:

16 MALLCOM MARX (On for Mbongeni Mbonambi, 51st min)

He was strong and abrasive with ball in hand when he came on and he scored a try as well.

7/10

17 STEVEN KITSHOFF (On for Tendai Mtawarira, 46th min)

He had a couple of good runs with ball in hand.

6/10

18 VINCENT KOCH (On for Frans Malherbe, 46th min)

Nothing special while he was on the field, but did his fair share of work in defence.

3/10

19 RG SNYMAN (On for Eben Etzebeth, 54th min)

Powerful in the collisions and he scored a try as well.

6/10

20 FRANCO MOSTERT (On for Lood de Jager, 61st min)

Very little impact off the bench.

3/10

21 FRANCOIS LOUW(On for Duane Vermeulen, 65th min)

Not enough time to be rated.

22 HERSCHEL JANTJIES (On for Faf de Klerk, 61st min)

He seemed to inject some speed into the game when he came on, but nothing too special.

5/10

23 FRANS STEYN (On for Makazole Mapimpi, 43rd min and for Lukhanyo Am, 71st min)

He did enough good work in open play during his two stints on the field.

6/10

Oct 04, 2019, 21:11

Only Kolbe was outstanding......against third rate opposition the rest were bog ordinary. Except for our flanks who are basically clueless.

Oct 04, 2019, 21:16

Oh rubbish Moz all the players were good bar Willie, Pollard, Faf and Kolisi.

Italy are better than Japan and look what the Japs did to Ireland

Oct 04, 2019, 21:18

So does Nkosi come onto the wing with Kolbe going to 15?

No problems with Kolisi but he looks outclassed by the other loosies and the locks in the Bok pack. 

Does Rassie start Jantjies in the next game or does he give Faf as much game time as possible in the hopes that he'll find form. Problem is, the understudy has very limited experience so if Faf doesn't find form things could get tricky. 

As usual, most of the Bok problems start at 9 and end at 15. 


Oct 04, 2019, 21:20

Was actually amazed to see that the "Captain" rallying the team was non other than Vermeulen.

If I am not mistaken it at one stage appeared that Kolisi was in fact asking Vermeulen a question, he received a  reply and then he (Vermeulen) actually barked the orders out to the troops.

During the game it was quite obvious that the #8 was running the game for the Boks.

It appears that Captain Kolisi might be a nice guy but he is way out of his depth as a leader and player at this level.

Super rugby is maybe his level or Currie Cup as a player.

Oct 04, 2019, 21:21

Balls Dave....they were playing 14 guys , none of whom would make the Stormers except the flyhalf and number 8.

Oct 04, 2019, 21:33

I think that the only thing Steyn did today that was worth noting is an aimless kick over the tryline with no pressure involved and was just touched down for a 22 kick-in.   For the rest he did preciously little.

As to the rest I was disappointed in Kolisi, and to a slightly lesser extent Faf and Pollard.   Pollard made a balls up of the ball in the Springboks 22 and as stated it could have led to a try.  There is nobody better than him in the squad bar perhaps Willemse.  

I think the latter will get game time against Canada and may start in that test,  He will not be kept gameless since he will have to play off the bench in the playoffs.     

 The real improvement in performance was in the Tight 5 where De Jager made a huge difference with his better physicality compared to Mostert.

Oct 04, 2019, 21:48

Actually their best player was their 7 and while Italy are not world beaters they are a handy enough side at times as they proved when they beat us under Coetzee.

As I said they are better than Japan and look what they did to Ireland

Oct 04, 2019, 21:50

The criticisms of Faf, Pollard and Willie are overstated. Nobody had a poor game. 

That said annogi g little errors cost us points. 

Once the Boks were ahead they started to open up and we saw some good offloads and tries. 

The Italians pulled a fast one re the scrum. Had there not b een uncontested scrum. The Bok score could have reached 70 points. 

Oct 04, 2019, 22:00

Agreed none of Faf, Pollard and Willie were bad. Willie is one of the few guys trying to create something, so he makes the odd mistake....we can't have 15 guys pounding it up.

And wanting to move Kolbe is insane.....he is our biggest weapon on the wing where he can slip past the onrushing defence.....now the fools want him to run it into a defensive wall. Asinine!.

Oct 04, 2019, 22:02

Italy are not better than Japan.

Oct 04, 2019, 22:09

Well Japan are certainly not better than Italy

Oct 04, 2019, 22:22

well according to world rankings, Japan are currently better than Italy.

So Saffex, moz is right for a change.

Oct 04, 2019, 22:36

Those rankings are a load of shit - they have us at 5 having just won the RC

Oct 04, 2019, 22:45

"they have us at 5 having just won the RC"

Says a lot about how shit we were before!

But we'll get back to top 3 by the end of the world cup.

Oct 04, 2019, 22:59

Nope Jar we were at 4 or 5 prior to the RC

Oct 04, 2019, 23:24

The backs are overrated in this assessment, I would subtract 2 from all of them except Kolbe, I would subtract 1 from him.

Oct 04, 2019, 23:35

Just win that is bullshit - saying de Allende was only worth a 5 is laughable as is 4 for Am

Oct 04, 2019, 23:42

"Nope Jar we were at 4 or 5 prior to the RC"

... i was referring to years gone by smartass

Oct 04, 2019, 23:43

How the fuck was I meant to know that dumbass

Oct 05, 2019, 02:21

Jarhead

After the Japan debacle in 2015 we were at 6 - so maybe we will go to 2 at the end of the WC.


Oct 05, 2019, 02:35

.. "i was referring to years gone by smartass world authority"

Sorted :)

Oct 05, 2019, 02:39

Strzok

So we agree on one point - at present Japan is stronger than Italy as a team.   Why was there such a vast improvement?   How come the beaters of  SA (the poorest WC squad ever) on 2015 can develop into a team capable of beating Ireland?

There are a few answers - but I would stick to 3 of those:-

*  They had top class coaches in 2015 and thereafter - they did not have Meyer and Coetzee as  coaches.

*   The captaincy - I think I know his name - can you help out  please.

*   The use of Top Class players coaches  like Meyer and Coetzee and co failed to due credit to,

I left out Erasmus in the first reason with very good reason  - the SA team has also improved massively from what it was in 2015 to 2017.   

LOL     

Oct 06, 2019, 01:30

Watching the game for a second time, and Willie Leroux had a better game than I thought. 

Oct 06, 2019, 01:39

That might be so but he is nowhere near what he used to be...a threat, dangerous with ball in hand and menacing. These days he just bullshit.

Oct 06, 2019, 03:41

There's a bit of the EltonJ with Willie ............ you never know when the next total balls-up is coming. He got a shite pass from Kolbe.

Oct 06, 2019, 19:35

How can Kolbe score a 10? He made a crappy pass to Willie that's already a mark against him so how can he get a perfect 100% grade? I call Bulls hit on this crap. Typically chest beating after a minnow gets beaten up and that after being a man down most of the game. Retarded as fuck. 

Oct 06, 2019, 20:14

@Come at whatever,


Kolbe is rated as the best-attacking player at the world cup. Sure, he made one mistake - but if the best player in the tournament cant get a 10, then who can? 

England without foreign players are average at best. Do you remember what happened the last world cup, when England could not even get through the first round, with home ground advantage? It was an embarrassment. 


Oct 06, 2019, 20:14

@Come at whatever,


Kolbe is rated as the best-attacking player at the world cup. Sure, he made one mistake - but if the best player in the tournament cant get a 10, then who can? 

England without foreign players are average at best. Do you remember what happened the last world cup, when England could not even get through the first round, with home ground advantage? It was an embarrassment. 


Oct 06, 2019, 20:14

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Oct 06, 2019, 20:29

All of these ratings are bullshit . Kolbe was an 8 at best. Nobody else in that backline was above a 6. The pack was the only real difference in that game and if they didnt dominate the Boks would have been in trouble because gli Azzuri were moving that ball much much better than the Boks. The conclusion is that this journo shot his load all over this review of the game and thats the usual bravado before you guys lose your shit when reality hits home .

Oct 06, 2019, 20:45

Come at whatever, 


You never replied with your comments about England. If you are going to judge another team, then can you be as forthcoming about your own team? (Or "your" multi-national united nations sports team). 

The English 2015 World Cup was a joke, so it was clear that more foreign players had to be recruited- as well as a foreign coach. 2011 was also pathetic, also known as Mike Tindells Stag do, which was around the same time as the English Cricket team - the Praats of the Caribean where England was the embarrassment of the cricket world cup. That northern monkey that fell off the canoe drunk was hilarious, great ambassadors to a country at an international sporting event. As per the usual case, England' media talked them up as favourites, regardless if they were hopeless or not.


Oct 06, 2019, 21:57

& Bro your lot haven't won the soccer world cup since ma fell off the bus.

 
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