The Pace of Moodie?

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Nov 30, 2024, 21:36

He got caught from behind today which is concerning. It was an open run to the try line that an international test standard winger should have scored. It almost seemed he did not back his pace. 


If Moodie is already slowing down at a young age, then Wing might not be in his best position.
He has been effective on attack at 13, but there are question marks on his defence when at 13.

AM looks like he has put on weight and has shed a few yards.

Dec 01, 2024, 05:04

Which try are you talking about? In his intercept try, Moodie ran away and scored with no one catching him.

Dec 01, 2024, 19:31

Shark watches a different game

Nothing wrong with Moodie’s pace at all

Am is the same size he has been for ages and had a good game

Dec 01, 2024, 19:41

In the first half, Moodie had an open run to the try line and was caught from behind.
He ran about 80 metres and was about 10 metres from the line when he tried a grubber. 

He did score the 2nd half-try with a good intercept. Overall he had a good game, but he did not score in the first half - and he did make that passing blunder that blew an overlap. 

Watching it again, the person was running at an angle, but he did appear to be running faster then Moodie.

Start at minute: 40:35

https://youtu.be/VqicMZ5VC38?si=P648ZGjBymr9xVrj&t=2435

Dec 01, 2024, 19:44

Oh ok I did miss about 20 min of the First half…didn’t see that one.

Dec 01, 2024, 20:03

Ok I see….the guy was coming at a angle cutting him off….but he kinda looks slower there.

Not running at full pace, it looks like that…with the intercept try he was running faster.

Dec 01, 2024, 20:07

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Dec 01, 2024, 21:11

He has never struck me as particularly fast. The speed with which the other wing closed on him there was noticeable. How was the very late tackle on him in that instance not penalized though?

Dec 01, 2024, 22:02

Moodie's is faster than Am ever was.

He's the perfect 13 as far as I'm concerned.

Dec 01, 2024, 22:50

The perfect 13 is Jurenzo Julius

Dec 02, 2024, 00:14

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Dec 02, 2024, 01:22

Damm Right Blob….Henco is making a strong case for being the whole package at 13….

We already know that Rassie likes Moodie and has tried him at 13 together with Esterhuisen vs AB at Twickenham. They did really well.

Then also Henco was at the Alignment camps. But unluckily he got injured… Rassie speaks highly of him…

Dec 02, 2024, 01:47

Lest we forget ....................... DdA

https://x.com/ChalynRugby/status/1858261549951193311

pic.twitter.com/87oBT5vS8t

Dec 02, 2024, 05:09

Lest we forget ....................... DdA

LOL. "A wall of 200kg." 

Yeah I'm sure Henry Slade's limp arm weighs 100kg. It was a good break. The hype ruins it.

Dec 02, 2024, 05:12

The perfect 13 is Jurenzo Julius

Let's see him play a test first.

Dec 02, 2024, 06:16

Unless there's something amiss with my eyesight he appears to slow down.

Dec 02, 2024, 06:48

Jake in his diplomatic way has told Moodie that he is fat and needs to stay away from the buffet next time he is away with the Boks

In typical Jake the Snake fashion he makes his comment public - what a prick

Dec 02, 2024, 08:43

Moodie's size and speed are just fine.

He's a gliding runner, so needs that extra bit of mass to glance defenders off of his swerves. 

He should have been starting at 13 for the Boks this year....but Rassie owes Jessie and Am for winning him the WC.

But...

Fassi is making a habit out of picking perfect lines and creating scores. He runs at nice 45s, where he could cut back or pass out wide...but the pace he does it at puts massive pressure on defenders. 

...all I'm saying is that his 13 play is not to be overlooked.

See first try for reference...


Dec 02, 2024, 08:47

And here, for you guys saying Moodie is slow...

Only Williams is faster than Fassi for the Boks...

See how there is very little in it over 50m between Fassie and Moodie...

Youtube Short here


Dec 02, 2024, 10:04

Thunk the topic of discussion was a particular try in a specific game......I don't see anyone calling Moodie generally slow.

Perhaps there's a fitness issue who knows.

Dec 02, 2024, 10:24

Hiya Denise...


"He got caught from behind today which is concerning. It was an open run to the try line that an international test standard winger should have scored. It almost seemed he did not back his pace. 


If Moodie is already slowing down at a young age, then Wing might not be in his best position."

Dec 02, 2024, 10:58

Hiya Bonehead

I'll keep it simple........have a look at the video again.....does it look like his slowing down with the tryline at his mercy......the evidence is crystal clear. Now grow up and do the mature thing or shut up and eat your crow.

Where have I said 'If Moodie is already slowing down at a young age...'? Thunk I said there might be a fitness issue.

And once again......I repeat.....Thunk the topic of discussion was a particular try in a specific game......I don't see anyone calling Moodie generally slow.

On second thoughts don't bother........just uppercut yourself.

CYA


Dec 02, 2024, 12:36

If you watch the ButtPlug video, Fassi is clearly faster than Moodie. He caught him twice. 

Dec 02, 2024, 12:39

Dec 02, 2024, 12:52

You're a damn idiot with an inferiority complex.

So just shut up.

Twat!

Dec 02, 2024, 13:01

ButtPlug has taken his toys and run away in a huff.
How silly, he posts a video that disproves his own opinion. 


Dec 02, 2024, 13:28

Putting Moodie in the eyes publicly, saying he must stay away from the Buffet, is unprofessional.

Tell the guy how you feel in private.

But Rassie does exactly the same thing by swearing and humiliating a Bok player for causing a penalty, on a You Tube Video, at the Semi Final WC 23.

Dec 02, 2024, 13:42

"See how there is very little in it over 50m between Fassie and Moodie..."

I said there isn't much between them...IE Fassi is a bit faster than Moodie, but Moodie ain't a slouch...considering he's only slightly slower than one of the fastest guys in our team.

'sakes...does one  have to draw pictures for you lot?

What huff are you talking about, VisKop?

Dec 03, 2024, 06:28

Psssst Bonehead....over here

Just answer the simple question..... did Moodie slow down?

How silly, he posts a video that disproves his own opinion. Bwhahahahahaha

Dec 03, 2024, 06:57

Denise you remind me of this black chick that runs an institute I'm involved with.

She's so worried that others will outshine her, so insecure about her own abilities, that she mostly rushes out of the gate and embarrasses herself. And she always ends up losing.

Pick your battles, my girl.

Dec 03, 2024, 09:27

Moodie was carrying the ball. This always favour's the chaser. 

Moodie has the necessary pace for wing if needs be. 

Dec 03, 2024, 09:31

Well, Jake white said that was getting a bit fat and needed to lose some weight while he was at the Springbok camp, I also think the reason why he didn't feature for the boks was that he probably wasn't 100% this season after coming back from his injury. 

If you look to the lead up to that play, Connacht breaks out and Moodie has to chase them 100 meters, 1 min later the ball pop ups onto Moodie side and he has a clear line. You can see his body hits the wall around 50 m run and then he just completely slows down 10 m out. 

I don't think it is pace, I think it is fitness and he will probably have to drop of few kg's. That is the problem with these guys, If they put on too much muscle they tend to slow down and can't last.

Syia has the same problem. If you look at him under 25, he is really skinny, but then he bulked up and you would see him completely gassed around the 30 min mark with hands on his hips. 

Dec 03, 2024, 09:52

The commentator at the time surmised a hamstring worry & Jake's being mischievous .

Dec 03, 2024, 11:11

I don't think it is pace, I think it is fitness and he will probably have to drop of few kg's.

Some sense for a change, exactly my point. Might not even be a weight issue.

Dec 03, 2024, 11:47

Well, unless you are a 200 m athlete, very hard to run full speed at that length. But he should have run that 100m under 11 sec and he would have been fine. But these days the guys only train 20 m and 40 m sprints as they hardly if ever get a chance to run that length with the modern defences 

Dec 03, 2024, 14:28

Bulky Boneheaded Rugby players are slow:) look no further than Lomp….

And then you have a Mostert tight like a tiger….durable and reliable.

In the older days the guys were tough but gym was not the most important, NO, more important was mobility and durability….

Corne krige, Rassie Erasmus, Pieter Rossouw, warren whitely etc. All slimmer Rugby players that lasted longer.

Nowadays it’s bulk up like you a bear….LOL what a joke…. I wonder how all these Rugby monsters get so big?

They most probably all steroid kings…..yes sure bulk up a bit, but to a unnatural size that make you more injury prone, is A Grade BS …

Dec 03, 2024, 15:58

Reaction time is more important than differences in outright speed…position and endurance are more important than differences in outright strength.

That’s what makes Kolbe so dangerous and Mostert so valuable.

In athletics competitors are released by the gun. In rugby vision can release a player like Kolbe long before others hear the proverbial gun.

Dec 03, 2024, 21:37

Mostert is fucking useless there is zero that is good about him

Kolbe is bloody amazing as are Ox, Kitshoff, Marx, Bongi, Malherbe, Eben, Lood, RG, Kolisi, PSDT, Kwagga, Faf, Pollard, de Allende, Esterhuizen, Willemse, Jessie, Am, Arendse and Willie

Dec 03, 2024, 22:32

Show me how Dud Allende was amazing in any of our tries against NZ….show me one thing he did in 6 seasons that was better than ordinary. The string is available.

Dec 03, 2024, 23:08

The number 1 requirement for a winger is raw pace. If they get space, no one should be able to catch them from behind in the way that Moodie was taken down 5 metres from the line.

Moodie is a very good player, but there are concerns about his raw pace for a winger. 

He is no slouch, but is he fast enough to be a Bok wing. 

Dec 03, 2024, 23:36

If they get space, no one should be able to catch them from behind in the way that Moodie was taken down 5 metres from the line.with air to beat.

Say no more, that's the plain and simple truth.

Dec 04, 2024, 00:14

Tell that to David Campesi or Duane van der Merwe.

Dec 04, 2024, 00:35

Dec 04, 2024, 00:14

Tell that to David Campesi or Duane van der Merwe.









So, I just got off the phone with Campesi and he told me that in his prime he was fast.
He did concede that he was past his best by the time the 1995 World Cup happened.
He sent me this video showing that no one catches Campese from behind.



Dec 04, 2024, 01:54

He was past his prime when Pieter Hendriks ran right round him?

Dec 04, 2024, 02:18

Correct, he retired the next year, 1996. 


David Campese was past his prime during the 1995 Rugby World Cup. While the search results don't directly address his performance in the 1995 tournament, we can infer this from several factors:

  1. Campese's international career spanned from 1982 to 1996, with the 1995 World Cup occurring near the end of his playing days.

  2. His most notable World Cup performances were in earlier tournaments:

    • In the 1987 World Cup, he became the all-time top international try-scorer3.

    • The 1991 World Cup was arguably his peak, where he was the tournament's leading try-scorer and named "Player of the Tournament"3.

  3. By 1995, Campese would have been 33 years old, which is typically considered past the prime age for a winger in professional rugby.

While Campese was still a valuable player for the Wallabies in 1995, his best performances and most significant impact on the international stage had likely already occurred in earlier years.

Dec 04, 2024, 03:28

Probably, but honestly I doubt he was as fast as Moodie…in that try against what I assume was the Lions, the opposing 10 seems to be catching him. More a guile player, brilliant step and lines. 

Dec 04, 2024, 05:19

He sent me this video showing that no one catches Campese from behind.

Love that "try" at 2:15. Player lying there defeated because he knows he lost it but the ref gives it.

Dec 04, 2024, 09:11

As you mentioned, Moodie is definitely not a slouch… and testament to that, is his intercept try in the second half, where no one caught him.

I don’t think he was running full pace in first half play in Anycase.

But just because of the one incident, it would be premature to label him as "not fast enough for a wing."

He is a excellent player that can also play 13. He has also worked on his defence and is solid now. Happy to have him as a Bok :)

Dec 04, 2024, 12:07

"Corne krige, Rassie Erasmus, Pieter Rossouw, warren whitely etc. All slimmer Rugby players that lasted longer."


"warren whitely" --> Not being argumentative but he was too buggered up to play past 32.

Dec 04, 2024, 12:48

Ok then swap him out with Uli Schmidt or a Gary Teichmann.

How about the best example that is right up there with the best, Kwagga Smith! ….Boom! Snap :)

My point is that if you have a naturally big player, like Eben, that is all good and well…. Excellent.

But why go and Bulk up a Ruan Nortje when his natural body is slimmer?? Or a Mostert ??

When they play excellent Rugby and make huge impacts?!

Look no further in cementing that point, with the obvious Input/Vision of Springbok coach Rassie Erasmus.

Only fools think that because it’s Rugby, everyone must be massive to be effective.

In actual fact, besides Eben ( who is a freak of nature, for being so big and reliable) look at RG, Lood etc. who are big guys but mostly injured….

They bring there impact but also there negative bits… There is a place for all shapes and size Rugby Players…

Dec 04, 2024, 13:31

I agree with your general point though.

Was just pointing out Whitely cos I'm still miffed that his career ended early.

Dec 04, 2024, 13:51

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Dec 04, 2024, 14:25

Percy Montgomery was the first case I recall….much less of an attacking threat after he bulked up.

Dec 04, 2024, 15:40

Yes, Montgomery lost pace and skill once he bulked up. Before that, his step and speed of the mark were world-class. He had the pace and acceleration to always beat the defender on the outside. 


Rohan Janse Van Rensburg initially looked like the next Jean Deviliiers, but after injuries his conditioning was poor. He was probably also doing too much weight work and creatine, so he was converting fat into muscle, that transformed him into becoming a low-skill player. 


Dec 05, 2024, 19:38

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Dec 05, 2024, 20:22

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Is it open to the public to download?

Dec 05, 2024, 20:51

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Dec 05, 2024, 21:33

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Dec 06, 2024, 07:01

There are plenty of Solar AIs.

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Dec 06, 2024, 07:16

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Dec 06, 2024, 08:50

:)

Dec 06, 2024, 09:26

Thanks plum sounds very interesting.

Generally speaking solar panels should be tilted at an angle that is equal to the latitude of their location.

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Here in SA your optimum angle is 25 - 35 Degrees, but many times the pitch of the roof is either lower than 25 or higher than 35.

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Many times a Customer only have a east and west facing roof.

So these Factors play a important part in your optimum production.

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Aurora program has got a similar function, but only orientation.

Maybe the newer software,s does , but not the old one I have.

Dec 06, 2024, 09:50

My house is still connected to the grid but runs totally off of solar, and we have a borehole. 

I'm so anal about things that I even have electronic switches connected to wifi that I can control everything in the house with, and have on timers. 

We blast all out electrics on timers during the day directly from the panels...and then at night its basically just lights, air cons and computers that draw off the batteries. 

...of course, a gas cooker is a must.

Dec 06, 2024, 10:21

Having timers is a good thing especially on your geyser. I have them to.

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That will cut your energy consumption by 60 % for lighting.

Dec 06, 2024, 12:08

We are full LEDs haha.

Our geyser is solar, and even in winter it still does its thing. So we hardly ever turn the heating element on. 

I have been looking at air-source heat pumps for the pool. They're a tad bulky though and a buddy of mine suggested a good place for them is a loft space, since it's always kak hot in there, making it more efficient and if it's in the loft then its out if site. Luckily it doesn't hold a storage of water, so even it there are problems, it shouldn't flood my house. 

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Dec 06, 2024, 14:50

Yes I have heard of it. Also very interesting….

 
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