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Mar 24, 2020, 11:42

Apparently Jake White will take over the Bulls, and likely to be formally announced soon. 

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Mar 24, 2020, 11:46

Good. BUT Jake needs full backing from top management.



Mar 24, 2020, 11:51

His game plan is limited, but he is a good coach. Not the best, but better than most of the SA coaches. 

A strict disciplinarian that is bound to have some arguements with some of the players, coaches and management. 

Mar 24, 2020, 11:53

Jake will surely be better than the duffers the poor Bools have had in recent years. One big problem for White is the departure of great players. How do you stop that?

Mar 24, 2020, 11:56

He will get it - but not of he does what he did in the past,  In the first instance he falls directly under Erasmus and his actual Board.   He will be entitled to give his opinion - but the decisions taken wil have to be implemented.

He better get rid of Morne to start off with - but he is likely to get his obedient servant Fransie to back him up.   That would ultimately not be a happy situation.


Mar 24, 2020, 12:22

His game plan is very comprehensive and tailored to personnel. We don't have another coach who can do that. Aside from Meyer. 

Mar 24, 2020, 12:26

Meyer had the largest budget in history to choose his own personnel, how did that work out? 

Spoiler Alert - "Stade Francais are about to finish last in the French league and be relegated"

Without Willie Leroux in top form, Meyer was useless.

Mar 24, 2020, 12:28

I'm okay with Jake White taking over the Bulls coaching duties. He could hardly do worse than the current crop. He's a hard nosed bugger, but he has proven on a number of occasions that he is able to very quickly turn around a team's fortunes. A little conservative maybe, but with the right assistant coaches (especially on attack Mike), he could conceivably produce a very competitive team. We shall see. 

Mar 24, 2020, 12:46

Mike Meyers style was never going to work in France. They are to flamboyant to go for the type of rugby he espouses.

Meyer took the Bulls form zero to Super Rugby champs.

Mayer lost a semifinal against nz by a point or two because wee matfiled gave away a stupid penalty after having a brain implosion. The Boks would obviously have beaten Oz in the final. Meyer could easily have been a RWC winner.

Mike please pay close attention to the above!

Mar 24, 2020, 14:13

Having the best lock pair in the world, the best wing probably of all time, the best scrummie in the world at the time, an on form Steyn probably playing his best rugby ever, and a dominant pack, would see any bozo coach rise to the top ... even the dud Meyer.

He's produced nothing since then. Not at any level.

He had all the talent in the world to chose from and even that didn't help hide his incompetence.

Easily one of the three worst coaches this country has ever seen.

White still has to deal with the quota system ... but at least he has a world beater in Gelant to help smooth the ride ... right Dumb Fuck??

Mar 24, 2020, 16:41

Wee cc something is eating you up. 

Tell uncle Beeno when you first felt you were losing your marbles. 

When your pills for anger management stopped working and what next you tried. 

Mar 24, 2020, 20:13


Meyer was not the brightest coach around  - he had an extremely limited game plan,   The worst thing he was totally incompetent in was his inability to  identify and select teams.   He did not believe in selection based on performance -  he only selected players based om reputation,  

His squad for the 2015 WC was a huge disaster,  Of the 31 players he could take 8 was effectively unplayable.  This was typical Meyer and was confirmed by the disaster he made at Stade Francais,  Unlimited funds to select players to be contracted and he failed totally,

Meyer is a nice person - but he is not a coaches arse or perhaps he is.      

Mar 24, 2020, 20:34

So weird. This used to be a thread about Jake White....

Mar 24, 2020, 20:34

Mike it's just you go too far in trashing Meyer the Bulls were perennial bottom dwellers before Meyer put together a very good side and got them playing to their strengths. 

Mar 25, 2020, 03:15

The anti-Meyer's are desperate to raise their beloved idol aloft, Rassie. They cannot do it, so they attack Meyer. I have proven beyond dispute that Meyer was the better coach, nobody has gone into greater depth on the subject than me (thank the liar Mike for inspiring those contributions). I don't need to draw comparisons, I know each and every phase of every game under both coaches and have obliterated the Church of Rassie. It's so funny to me that Rassie is everything that they criticized Meyer for being. Even better yet, these genius minds of the game haven't quite twigged the structures utilized by both coaches. By attacking Meyer, they blow fatal holes in Rassie's blueprint. Almost all of the shapes were the same, but the implementation was different. The stats don't lie. 

As for Jake? He is technically one of the very best minds in the game. The Aussies are an outspoken bunch who question why they do things, they loved Jake. Only the lazy, passive, self-entitled, arrogant Sharks of the day thought they were too good to heed his wisdom. It took a near total clear out before the rot ceased and nearly five years before they saw success again. How many coaches? No team has ever been better when Jake has departed. Zero. Beat the British Lions with a shadow Brumbies team. The man is a legend. He is too intelligent and advanced for South Africa. A coach of such quality that he was sought out by the IRB. What other South African coach holds such respect around the world? None. 

Mar 25, 2020, 05:22


You have gone into dreaming up reasons why Meyer was an acceptable coach - the myths that came out are so far from reality that it is unbelievable,   You were asked some pertinent questions,   but refuse to answer them, because honest answers would prove your totally idiotic garbage to write on site.  So here goes again:-

Name me just one trophy of significance the Springboks won when coached by Meyer.   So Erasmus took the Springboks backwards by winning both the Rugby Championship and the Webb-Ellis Trophies?   How come the Springboks backline players scored more tries in 2019 than the team as a whole scored in 2015?

No - there is another idiot statement - If the Aussies "love" White, why was he not appointed as national coach?   What legend gets fired because of very  sound reasons?   White is the same as Meyer -  an extremely limited coach with no plan after the opposition worked out how to deal with the limited game plan.    He did well initially in  2004 and 2005 - but then the bottom fell out in 2006 and before the WC in 2007.   He was so bad in those years that of the WC was not imminent - he would have been fired. 

Just one final question - why was Meyer forced into resignation at Stade Francais after nearly destroying that team?  He was a total flop on club level - yet you claimed he was acceptable om national level.   How come?                                

Mar 25, 2020, 14:25

Jake White is needed at the Bulls, he isn't one to tow the line though which may cause friction with the old boys club that is clearly a part of the Bulls. Hopefully he gets the freedom he deserves so he can excel. 

Mar 25, 2020, 16:34

Bulls confirm appointment of Jake White as Director of Rugby

So it is confirmed. White will be Bulls director of rugby.

Mar 25, 2020, 16:49

The  Bulls are owned by 2 people - Rupert md Montsepe and they own  74,5% pf the Shares between the two of them.    They do control the Board and their agent is Schalk Brits.  

He will have to deal with this new issue as well as the fact that strict co-ordination conditions have been accepted by SARU  and that means he will have to accept some conditions of SARU and will in that regard get his instructions from Erasmus,   He will be the Bulls representative in the co-ordination  work group and will be able to submit proposals, but in the end will have to accept the decisions of the work group as to player development and game plans.   

Incidentally from next year this Work Group will also co-ordinate player allocations to the franchises,   

There is a potential for clashes between White and the owners pf the Bulls and also with Erasmus - so he will have to be very careful not to have another Sharks scenario developing.    The fact is that Erasmus has a much better and more effective management style than the SA coaches generally have had in the past and that may make things work out in this case,             

Mar 25, 2020, 19:13

Looks like a good fit!.

The Blue Bulls confirmed on Wednesday that Jake White has signed on as Director of Rugby until the 2023 Rugby World Cup in France.

The former Springbok coach and Rugby World Cup winner assumes the position vacated by Alan Zondagh, who stepped down earlier this year.

White has recently been coaching the Verblitz in Japan and joins the Bulls with over four decades of coaching experience stretching back to the early 1980s.

His global experience at the highest levels, particularly in Super Rugby as the former head coach of both the Sharks and Brumbies, will benefit the Bulls as they continue to add to their resources.

White expressed his eagerness at getting the ball rolling: "The Bulls brand has always been a powerhouse in rugby, and respected around the world. There's a great history and heritage here, and I'm looking forward to adding my contribution to the Bulls' legacy.

"The shareholders, Remgro, Patrice Motsepe and the BBRU, together with the staff, have an amazing ambition to not only take the Bulls back to number one, but also re-invent and re-mould the face of rugby in this country."

Blue Bulls Company CEO, Alfonso Meyer, shared his sentiments on White's impending arrival.

"We are extremely excited with Jake's decision to join us. His credentials speak for itself and we know his contributions are only going to improve our rugby across the board. Jake's appointment is yet another step in the right direction as we endeavour to take this brand into a new era. We wish him well in his new role," said Meyer.

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