What is going on with NZ

Whilst Mozzietard reckons firing all the Barrett brothers and a couple of other players, the coach etc is the answer a far deeper question needs to be asked.

Is NZ going through a dip that happens to all rugby nations or has something else happened that has fundamentally changed their fortunes.

For example they no longer have tbe cash cow of South Africa to prop then up. Their Super rugby comp is no longer the same without our participation so they are not getting the necessary level of competition.

Then again is the supply on Fijians, Tongans etc drying up as these players get lucrative contracts in Europe and even Australia.

I saw a You Tube video thst claimed thousands of Kiwis were leaving the leftist Globalist run NZ for greener pastures. The country is not working as well as it used to.

What is the combined effect of the above.

If they haven't done so already their first move should be to pick their overseas players. Is this being considered?

On the other side of the coin the rise of players of colour in South Africa has been a huge plus. Some great forwards like Ox and many great backs. You could in fact pick an entire Bok backline from players of colour. So this is a dramatic gain for us and the full potential of black players has not yet been realised. In addition, we do of course pick our overseas players.

Speaking generally the combination of Africaner forward power and lightning fast black backs bodes well for the future.

Our biggest threat is we don't often produce great coaches, especially of the quality of Rassie. Hence how astounding it is for bone heads on the board not to recognise what we have in Rassie. A Pieter De Villiers type coach could ruin everything, set us back years.

"I saw a You Tube video thst claimed thousands of Kiwis were leaving the leftist Globalist run NZ for greener pastures. The country is not working as well as it used to."

Baboon-ou, let me just say that if the leadership of government actually played any kind of factor in the result of a rugby match, New Zealand will put 100 plus scores over us every time we play.

As for emigration . . . well, I know you're a brainwashed individual but really . . . even you . . .

It's a dip. The All Blacks will be back. I just hope it isn't at Ellis Park for the 2nd test when I'm there to see it.

Bokke!

It's a dip that started precisely when the Saffas left SR.

That's not a coincidence. Nice to know that we should knock 3-4 games off of the deficit between the Boks and NZ this year. By the close of 2026 we could be on a win percentage of 43% against them.

I'm hoping Sacha has one or two very dominant games against them. It would be another stepping stone for our superstar leading into the WC.

Is it any coincidence that both Aus and NZ are nose diving. However, I won't say NZ is as bad as Australian, but when your coach with a 75% win record get the boot then there are serious questions. Kiwis are still clutching to their golden era.

Is it realistic to expect a team that can win 90% of their games these days if you look at the rugby schedule. I really wonder how bad they would have been had France sent a full strength team to play them.

I also think a lot of their Island player pool has gone to Europe to get proper cash to look after their families and Australia has been poaching the others, not for Rugby Union but for Rugby League.

Rugby league is actually the biggest threat to Australia and New Zealand. Nobody talks about it.

Geez, Beeno Biscuits, change your nappy… So deranged he can’t help but bring politics into everything...

The ABs are still ranked second in the world, and that’s not even them at their best...which is really good.

When we were down in form, we dropped as low as sixth. So stop with all the doom and gloom.

South Africa plays a very scrappy game it is about the margins. Where as New Zealand is a momentum and attacking team. They are their own worst enemies when they make basic errors but that is the game they play that yield 75% win ratio

There is a variety of factors causing the slide down in NZ rugby. Th e first factor is the Super Rugby issue causing a loss in funding of NZ Rugby they have been unable to make good in playing Super Rugby Pacific

But the other problem actually starts much earlier' and that is in schools and the problem is the worke culture has a negative imact on school kids playing rugby - it is way to much physical endeavour required. School Rugby is in decline in New Zealand and feeding from their to Under 20 rugby is sub-standard.

In the Under 20 RWC hedld annually New Zealand has been in decline since 2017 - rgt ghave not in the fina once suince that year an theyw were poor a a feeding trough since 2017. So positive action to promote rugby from school level is essential.

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My post was clearly way above the paygrade of noted Mamparas Mampara Power and Mampara Rooitwritterbug.

Stay in your lanes Mamparas and avoid answering posts requiring some thought and some knoedge. I don't ask for perfection but how dismal were these yep. Bwahahahaha.

But for the rest the posts were sound and the two Mamparas should spend a few hours reading these posts and trying yo understand them

Yes woke culture is underming the country and helps to explain the departure of kiwis to greener pastures. Wherever these Open Border Globalist traitors gain power the decline of a country is guaranteed.

By the way oaks I do hope you all viewed the outstanding speech President Trump gave to Congress.. The polls by left wing entities like CNN and CBS show a big shift towards Trump. Eg prior to the speech those saying America was moving in the right direction was 54% After the speech that figure moved to 64% President Trump crushed the miserable American hating Demonrats. It was wonderful to see.

I must try and post a video giving various poll RESULTS per CNN and CBS.

Somebody will of course need to explain the results to mampara power and msmpara Rooitwitterbug. Hahahahahahahaha.

Ed it would be nice to have a button which when selected would provide a warning "Mamparas this post is beyond you"

Probavlbly eliminate our two Mamparas from commenting on most posts. Hilarious stuff from the Mamparas!

You Fool, this is the rugby section, not your personal political broadcast channel.

The All Blacks having a dip has nothing to do with “globalist Woke governments” or YouTube conspiracy clips. Teams go through up's and Downs. It happens to all top teams.

Dragging Trump speeches and culture wars into a discussion about squad depth and coaching transitions, just shows how delusional and fanatical you are!

If you want to debate overseas selection policy, Super Rugby standards, player drain to Europe and Japan, fine. That’s relevant.

But blaming “woke culture” for a rugby dip isn’t analysis, it’s idiotic!

And instead of telling everyone to stay in their lane, maybe stay in the rugby lane yourself or go and spew your vomit on the mikes gripes section.

If there was a button for “keep this thread about rugby or stop speaking KAK Beeno1" I’d press it.

Many South Africans who originally applied to settle in Australia and got rejected by the Aussie Govt. then applied to New Zealand and where accepted and have since moved to Australia as well as many folks born in New Zealand.

New Zealand has had a major influx of immigrants from Pakistan, India and other Commonwealth countries so whilst their cricket base and field hockey has risen it is a loss to their rugby.

Many excellent All Black players have retired and it is difficult to replace good international players in one or two seasons, plus managers/coaches at the helm are not as experienced in international rugby as the ones who retired.

The vacuum in NZ rugby is sad but they will rise once again I'm sure.

Prior to the Springboks being re-admitted to international rugby and not playing teams in Super rugby the standard of Springbok suffered a similar lack of performance.

But thankfully due to some excellent players/coaches the Springboks have recovered and are the force in international rugby.

So, I think that in the years to come the All Blacks will comeback and with a few of the new settlers playing rugby we might be surprised at their skills in rugby.

Best to enjoy the winning Springboks while we can.

When I see some of the young talent at school and lower levels of rugby in South Africa I believe that we will be blessed with many more years of excellent winning rugby at all levels of the sport.

Thankfully.

Yes AJ it will interesting to see if the wee abs can overcome their financial problems, citizens fleeing their woke open border Globalist government and the drying up of Islander talent.

The wee abs should always be a top tier nation but you know how everything tends to go south when you have far left woke governments. Mampata power appears outraged because of my criticism of woke mess. Very suspicious behavior from this bone head. Bwahahahahahaha.

Oh brilliant, another genius who thinks "woke" is the reason a rugby team loses games.

Let me guess: if the All Blacks win later in the year, is that because the New Zealand government suddenly became less woke? Or does your theory only work in one direction?

The All Blacks have had dips in form before, long before anyone even invented the word "woke" jou Dom Poephol.

Rugby often repeats itself, players come and go, coaches make important choices, and injuries happen.

These are real rugby reasons that people who know the game talk about. Not a ignorant Fool that drags politics and Religion into everything.

And no, I'm not "outraged" at your criticism of woke ideology. I am not "Woke" and i don't give a fuck about your political opinions.

What's idiotic is dragging that nonsense into a sports conversation as if it explains anything meaningful. It's lazy thinking pretending to be insightful.

Like i said before, if you want to have a real conversation about New Zealand rugby: the finances, player drain to overseas clubs, depth in certain positions, coaching structure...then debate rugby.

But if your entire analysis boils down to

"woke globalist" politics, don't be surprised when people call it out for the intellectually empty garbage it is.

Stick to rugby or don't bother.

Mampara power you are as dumb as a rock and your comprehension ability is terrible.

You have the emotional stability of a 3 year old. Are you living in your parents basement.

Stay down, Baboon-ou.

Recognise when you've made a fool of yourself and try to learn from the experience.

Hahahahaha says ou Rooitwit not well know for sane comments.

What happened to your team then Rooitwit. What a hiding!

Stay down, Baboon-ou.

That is sincere and very kind advice. Take it.

When have I EVER been down Rooitwit. You are wrong right from the very beginning!

Explain your advice then?

Hasbeeno, we have a right wing government not a “far left” one so please do some research before spouting forth!

Anyway, as Mpower says, keep politics out of it as that has nothing to do with the ABs and their current slump.

Can’t wait for this year’s tour although they’re certainly taking their time over announcing the new coach.

Word here is that Rennie is the new favourite for the job but who knows really?

Personally as a Chiefs fan I’d like him to get a crack given he coached us to our only 2 SR titles.

Very exciting game between Chiefs and Saders last night here although I went home with my tail between my legs after our loss.

Still a great game and an out of this world 100m try from the Chiefs plus nearly another right at the death eased the pain somewhat.

You should all watch the highlights to see what real running rugby is about!!

You guys are so left wing a Marxist would appear to be a moderate! Hahahahahaha

But like Australia and NZ you have been run by Open Border Globalists and they are the head of the snake.

Thankfully a huge awakening has and is happening.

Hoping Britsin can be saved and tbe rest of the Western countries ruled by these traitors.

I listed a number of challenges NZ faced. I did not come down conclusively that NZ rugby is doomed. But being the realist I am. these challenges when combined are significant. The question is. can nz dominate rugby as they did with the McCaw years etc. I think the chances of a repeat are probably less than 50 percent. That is not to say they won't occasionally hit number 1 etc.

Nobody knows the future and of course all this is speculation.

Unfortunately very immature people like Mampara Power are unable to consider a topic like this without throwing a very childish tantrum.

Baboon-ou, I hate to be the one to break this to you but you're a basket case.

Maybe in years to come you'll reflect on your brainwashed stance on many things, but that's not certain. I hope for your sake that one day you learn to respect not just the rights of the individual but the rights of society as a whole, but I'm not holding my breath.